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Dicky McElephant
04-19-2011, 11:25 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/mock-draft-three-round-carolina-panthers-cam-newton-041811



21. Kansas City Chiefs (10-6), Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri: The Chiefs stay local, grabbing one of the first round’s biggest wildcard selections in Smith. As a redshirt freshman at Mizzou in 2009, the 6-5 talented pass rusher recorded 11.5 sacks during his first year of college football. He recorded another 4.5 sacks before shattering his leg last season. Healthy now, the Chiefs could use Smith in a variety of ways, either as a pass-rushing OLB or as a DE in their 3-4 scheme.

55. Kansas City Chiefs: Jon Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh
86. Kansas City Chiefs: Clint Boling, OG, Georgia

Brock
04-19-2011, 11:26 AM
intrigued

Detoxing
04-19-2011, 11:26 AM
Works for me.

Dicky McElephant
04-19-2011, 11:28 AM
FWIW......the following AFC West teams get.

Broncos:

2. Denver Broncos (4-12), Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
36. Denver Broncos: Jabaal Sheard, DE, Pittsburgh
46. Denver Broncos: Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State
67. Denver Broncos: Quan Sturdivant, LB, North Carolina

Chargers:

18. San Diego Chargers (9-7), J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
50. San Diego Chargers: Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor
61. San Diego Chargers: Mason Foster, LB, Washington
82. San Diego Chargers: Austin Pettis, WR, Boise State
89. San Diego Chargers: Orlando Franklin, OT, Miami

Raiders:

48. Oakland Raiders: Stefen Wisniewski, G/C, Penn State
81. Oakland Raiders: Edmond Gates, WR, Abilene Christian

Dicky McElephant
04-19-2011, 11:29 AM
I know it's totally ignoring the offensive line for the first 3 rounds.....but if we can come out of the 3rd round with:

1st. Aldon Smith, DE/OLB
2nd. Jonathan Baldwin, WR
3rd. Jerrell Powe, NT

I'll be fucking ecstatic.

talastan
04-19-2011, 11:32 AM
I know it's totally ignoring the offensive line for the first 3 rounds.....but if we can come out of the 3rd round with:

1st. Aldon Smith, DE/OLB
2nd. Jonathan Baldwin, WR
3rd. Jerrell Powe, NT

I'll be ****ing ecstatic.

As would I!! I'd love to grab Smith at 21 but I think he'll be long gone before that. Even so grab another one of the top flight OLB prospects at 21 and duplicate the next two rounds like you have it and I'd be happy. :thumb:

kepp
04-19-2011, 11:36 AM
I know it's totally ignoring the offensive line for the first 3 rounds.....but if we can come out of the 3rd round with:

1st. Aldon Smith, DE/OLB
2nd. Jonathan Baldwin, WR
3rd. Jerrell Powe, NT

I'll be ****ing ecstatic.

Absolutely

BigCatDaddy
04-19-2011, 11:37 AM
The Chargers always kick ass in mock drafts.

Saccopoo
04-19-2011, 11:41 AM
I honestly can't say that Aldon Smith is any better a 3-4 Sam backer prospect than the following:

Brooks Reed
Sam Acho
Chris Carter

And he didn't test very well at the combine and didn't show very good fluidity in dropping back.

Do not want, especially in the first round. The guy would be a project at best as a 3-4 OLB, especially on the left side where he'll be asked to play a lot of zone pass coverage.

Smith surprised many in the scouting community when he chose to leave Missouri after his redshirt sophomore season, and scouts remain divided on the rather raw prospect. He hasn't filled out his frame, and his lack of ideal strength was evident as he lifted 225 pounds just 20 times at the combine. Smith also posted disappointing short-shuttle (4.50) and 3-cone drill (7.19) times - two important agility tests.

One scout for an NFL team that uses a 3-4 scheme told NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst Rob Rang that Smith had an excellent pro day workout and could be an explosive pass rusher once he "grows into his body." Another scout from a 4-3 team was concerned about Smith's change of direction ability and said he'll be drafted early based primarily on his 2009 game film.

Heck, the fifth round and on is going to be loaded with guys just like Smith:

Ugo Chinasa, DE; Oklahoma State
K.J. Wright, OLB; Mississippi State
Tom Keiser, OLB; Stanford

And a guy like Mark Herzlich, who has some of the best instincts I've ever seen from a true Sam linebacker at the college level. I sure as hell would take a flyer on Herzlich in the fifth versus burning a first rounder on Smith.

Jon Baldwin in the second would be absolutely fantastic.

Von Dumbass
04-19-2011, 11:46 AM
I won't be happy if Denver drafts Patrick Peterson. DT is the only way Denver should go in this draft.

milkman
04-19-2011, 11:57 AM
I honestly can't say that Aldon Smith is any better a 3-4 Sam backer prospect than the following:

Brooks Reed
Sam Acho
Chris Carter

And he didn't test very well at the combine and didn't show very good fluidity in dropping back.

Do not want, especially in the first round. The guy would be a project at best as a 3-4 OLB, especially on the left side where he'll be asked to play a lot of zone pass coverage.



Heck, the fifth round and on is going to be loaded with guys just like Smith:

Ugo Chinasa, DE; Oklahoma State
K.J. Wright, OLB; Mississippi State
Tom Keiser, OLB; Stanford

And a guy like Mark Herzlich, who has some of the best instincts I've ever seen from a true Sam linebacker at the college level. I sure as hell would take a flyer on Herzlich in the fifth versus burning a first rounder on Smith.

Jon Baldwin in the second would be absolutely fantastic.

You're findthedr's brother aren't you?

This reeks of "Trevor Laws is the same as Glen Dorsey" BS he used to try to shovel.

Pitt Gorilla
04-19-2011, 12:02 PM
I honestly can't say that Aldon Smith is any better a 3-4 Sam backer prospect than the following:

Brooks Reed
Sam Acho
Chris Carter

And he didn't test very well at the combine and didn't show very good fluidity in dropping back.

Do not want, especially in the first round. The guy would be a project at best as a 3-4 OLB, especially on the left side where he'll be asked to play a lot of zone pass coverage.



Heck, the fifth round and on is going to be loaded with guys just like Smith:

Ugo Chinasa, DE; Oklahoma State
K.J. Wright, OLB; Mississippi State
Tom Keiser, OLB; Stanford

And a guy like Mark Herzlich, who has some of the best instincts I've ever seen from a true Sam linebacker at the college level. I sure as hell would take a flyer on Herzlich in the fifth versus burning a first rounder on Smith.

Jon Baldwin in the second would be absolutely fantastic.If the fifth round is known for anything, it's for hoarding first-round talent.

doomy3
04-19-2011, 12:10 PM
An absolute dream scenario. That draft would be so awesome.

Bewbies
04-19-2011, 12:10 PM
If the fifth round is known for anything, it's for hoarding first-round talent.

Ok, this is REALLY good sarcasm. REALLY GOOD. LMAO

Bewbies
04-19-2011, 12:11 PM
Smith/Baldwin as our first 2 picks and KC fans everywhere suffer from speed blisters.

ChiefMojo
04-19-2011, 08:59 PM
I would be VERY HAPPY with that draft!

Mr. Laz
04-19-2011, 09:02 PM
I know it's totally ignoring the offensive line for the first 3 rounds.....but if we can come out of the 3rd round with:

1st. Aldon Smith, DE/OLB
2nd. Jonathan Baldwin, WR
3rd. Jerrell Powe, NT

I'll be fucking ecstatic.
it's not a "Pioli" type draft but it would have tremendous upside.

MagicHef
04-20-2011, 01:02 AM
I won't be happy if Denver drafts Patrick Peterson. DT is the only way Denver should go in this draft.

No. Dareus isn't half the player Peterson or Miller are, IMO. Skipping over premier talent to draft for need is not the way to improve.

Von Dumbass
04-20-2011, 11:55 AM
No. Dareus isn't half the player Peterson or Miller are, IMO. Skipping over premier talent to draft for need is not the way to improve.

I understand your point of view and agree that Peterson and Miller have enormous upside. But I also think defensive lineman are much more valuable to a team than a corner or a SAM linebacker would be. I don't see Denver having an opportunity any time soon of getting a young DT with as much talent as Dareus and Fairley have. Plus DT is a gigantic need for this team.

I guess your a BPA guy and I'm a BPA at a position of need guy. We have a good group of corners and Miller, while I think he can play the SAM, would be better utilized as a rush-backer in a 3-4.

MagicHef
04-20-2011, 05:17 PM
I understand your point of view and agree that Peterson and Miller have enormous upside. But I also think defensive lineman are much more valuable to a team than a corner or a SAM linebacker would be. I don't see Denver having an opportunity any time soon of getting a young DT with as much talent as Dareus and Fairley have. Plus DT is a gigantic need for this team.

I guess your a BPA guy and I'm a BPA at a position of need guy. We have a good group of corners and Miller, while I think he can play the SAM, would be better utilized as a rush-backer in a 3-4.

Dareus and Fairley just aren't at the level of Suh or McCoy from last year, while there is a lot of DL talent that will be available later in the draft, which could easily end up as good our better than them. I wouyld rather address needs in FA, and I really don't want to end up with just an above average player with the #2 pick.

Dicky McElephant
04-20-2011, 05:19 PM
You could get somebody like Peterson in the 1st and grab a Marvin Austin or Stephen Paea in the 2nd round. Shit....you could probably grab both since you have two picks in that round.

Pasta Giant Meatball
04-20-2011, 05:36 PM
I honestly can't say that Aldon Smith is any better a 3-4 Sam backer prospect than the following:

Brooks Reed
Sam Acho
Chris Carter

And he didn't test very well at the combine and didn't show very good fluidity in dropping back.

Do not want, especially in the first round. The guy would be a project at best as a 3-4 OLB, especially on the left side where he'll be asked to play a lot of zone pass coverage.



Heck, the fifth round and on is going to be loaded with guys just like Smith:

Ugo Chinasa, DE; Oklahoma State
K.J. Wright, OLB; Mississippi State
Tom Keiser, OLB; Stanford
And a guy like Mark Herzlich, who has some of the best instincts I've ever seen from a true Sam linebacker at the college level. I sure as hell would take a flyer on Herzlich in the fifth versus burning a first rounder on Smith.

Jon Baldwin in the second would be absolutely fantastic.

:spock: WTF kind of garbage is this. What a joke.

That's even ignoring the fail in the opening of this post.

BossChief
04-20-2011, 05:49 PM
every post of his is like a big ole

sack
of
poo

MagicHef
04-20-2011, 07:48 PM
You could get somebody like Peterson in the 1st and grab a Marvin Austin or Stephen Paea in the 2nd round. Shit....you could probably grab both since you have two picks in that round.

Exactly.