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Dinny Blues
04-20-2011, 12:37 PM
Heaven help me.

I have never ever not one time in my life applied drywall compound to any surface at all ever.

I picked a small room to start with and practice. Sraped the cottage cheese off dry and sanded. Did a skim coat on low spots and sanded. Did another skim coat and sanded. I had an easier time smearing on a skim coat when i watered down the mud.

It takes me a long time because just a few minutes on a ladder hurts my back so bad I have to sit down and cry for a while. Then I get back at it when I'm finished crying.

So anyway, I think this practice room is about ready for paint. It looks real good. So good that I want to do the rest of the house, no matter how bad it hurts.

Hoping over-head has some tips to help me along. Or giggling at me for what I've gotten myself into.

Dinny

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 12:41 PM
IMO, few things date a house like popcorn ceilings. I can't stand them. Next, you'll have to ditch the brass fixtures.

Iowanian
04-20-2011, 12:41 PM
I've knocked quite a bit of popcorn off of ceilings.

I use a spray bottle to mist/dampen it, let it sit for a minute and then scrape it with a wide drywall mud knife.

gblowfish
04-20-2011, 12:41 PM
Is whacking how the ceiling got popcorned in the first place???

Fried Meat Ball!
04-20-2011, 12:41 PM
I'm pretty sure this should be labeled NSFW.

chasedude
04-20-2011, 01:01 PM
I'm pretty sure this should be labeled NSFW.

After reading the thread title I thought this was the kids new slang for fapping! LMAO

ClevelandBronco
04-20-2011, 01:03 PM
I've knocked quite a bit of popcorn off of ceilings.

I use a spray bottle to mist/dampen it, let it sit for a minute and then scrape it with a wide drywall mud knife.

Next time, Dinny, this is the method.

Donger
04-20-2011, 01:03 PM
One of my brothers was going to do this himself until he heard that some of the early stuff contains asbestos.

tooge
04-20-2011, 01:07 PM
whacking the popcorn is one way to put it I guess. We always called it whacking the monkey

Dinny Blues
04-20-2011, 01:08 PM
I've knocked quite a bit of popcorn off of ceilings.

I use a spray bottle to mist/dampen it, let it sit for a minute and then scrape it with a wide drywall mud knife.

This is what I have planned for my next act.

I still have a few spots left in the practice room. I am typically a perfectionist, (I have agressive/repulsive disorder) so I am figuring the paint will expose little imperfections more than hide them.

I absolutely love the way it looks already. I can't stand the popcorn anymore.

We are going to do some new floors, so I want to do this first.

VIVA LA POPCORN WHACK!!!

Dinny

Brock
04-20-2011, 01:09 PM
Whoever thought that shit up needs beaten to death.

Los Pollos Hermanos
04-20-2011, 01:13 PM
Our house is only 8 years old and it has popcorn ceilings. I thought that shit went the way of the dodo back in 1986.

We've scraped all the bedrooms and bathrooms. Only the living room and kitchen left.

penguinz
04-20-2011, 01:27 PM
Whoever thought that shit up needs beaten to death.I would kill whoever thought up knockdown texture for walls first.

My house was built in 78 and the whole upstairs has this crap on the walls.

Dinny Blues
04-20-2011, 01:30 PM
It would be easier if the house was empty.

The boss isn't happy about moving things and the mess. That and she's an extreme instant gratificationist.

I am literally against all odds. Or something like that.

Dinny

mikeyis4dcats.
04-20-2011, 02:01 PM
be careful, a lot of acoustical textured "popcorn" finish contains asbestos.

Get it pretty wet with a spray bottle and scrape it off.

CrazyPhuD
04-20-2011, 02:13 PM
Setting the ceiling on fire would have been faster and less painful.

Fish
04-20-2011, 03:12 PM
Don't forget to apply a liberal amount of beer. That always helps with the removal...

Chiefnj2
04-20-2011, 03:29 PM
Drop the ceiling and re-sheetrock.

nstygma
04-20-2011, 03:39 PM
i'm going through the same thing.
my largest room had paint over the popcorn, so the water/soak/scrape method only got about 50% of the old material off, leaving a rough surface
the other unpainted ceilings were a breeze
thinking about using this product, no sanding required (thanks Over-Head)
http://specializedbuildingproducts.com/Docs/LevelWall-5%20submital.pdf

Iowanian
04-20-2011, 04:01 PM
If you do it right with the spray bottle, it will look a lot like orange peel texture.


At Dinny's age, he doesn't have to worry about asbestos anyway....

Bacon Cheeseburger
04-20-2011, 04:40 PM
I've knocked quite a bit of popcorn off of ceilings.

I use a spray bottle to mist/dampen it, let it sit for a minute and then scrape it with a wide drywall mud knife.
This works great as long as it hasn't been painted. The good thing is that the shit is impossible to brush and roll so it rarely is.

SLAG
04-20-2011, 04:42 PM
So what do you do with the ceiling after you knock off the popcorn - leave it flat and paint it?

Bacon Cheeseburger
04-20-2011, 04:47 PM
Oh yeah, speaking of paint, make sure to use flat paint on the ceiling when you're done, it's more forgiving of surface imperfections.

Los Pollos Hermanos
04-20-2011, 05:20 PM
So what do you do with the ceiling after you knock off the popcorn - leave it flat and paint it?

Retexture it and then paint it.

nstygma
04-20-2011, 10:59 PM
If you do it right with the spray bottle, it will look a lot like orange peel texture.


At Dinny's age, he doesn't have to worry about asbestos anyway....
in my rooms with popcorn texture only, the water/scrape took it down to plain drywall and taped seams(like the vid). the painted room was terrible

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6Tf8NbEaRps" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rooster
04-21-2011, 08:44 AM
My house is only 11 years old and it has that shit throughout. I would love to remove it because it is so outdated but the mess involved makes me very hesitant.

txhawk
04-21-2011, 08:54 AM
I did ours a few years ago...I did a dry method, whereas I scraped at a 30 degree angle and knocked down the high spots. Wiped it down with a damp rag to remove the dust, then painted a few coats. This eliminated the need for skim coating and sanding. It also left what looks like an orange peel texture. It looks really good, I must say.

Regarding the mess, it will be messy, but I found the best way to contain it is really quite simple. Obviously plastic the floor and furniture, but you can catch nearly 90% of all the falling "popcorn texture" when you scrape by simply having the lid to a case of printer paper. Turn the lid upside down so it acts like a tray with raised edges, and keep it relatively close to the ceiling when scraping, all the texture falls directly into the tray. Very easy and kept mess at a minimum.

PRIEST
04-21-2011, 09:16 AM
Just went through this ahhhhhh went back with a Knock down finish, hell to paint but looks up to date. Crows foot in bathrooms.


http://www.drywallschool.com/textures.htm

MOhillbilly
04-21-2011, 09:23 AM
Oh yeah, speaking of paint, make sure to use flat paint on the ceiling when you're done, it's more forgiving of surface imperfections.

for all ceilings?

most of mines the 1ft sq fiber board.

Im gettin ready to paint the inside of my place. Its IDK the walls are anywhere from 40-80+ year old brown wood board.

I wanna lighten the rooms up.
thoughts?

rageeumr
04-21-2011, 09:30 AM
I did ours a few years ago...I did a dry method, whereas I scraped at a 30 degree angle and knocked down the high spots. Wiped it down with a damp rag to remove the dust, then painted a few coats. This eliminated the need for skim coating and sanding. It also left what looks like an orange peel texture. It looks really good, I must say.

Regarding the mess, it will be messy, but I found the best way to contain it is really quite simple. Obviously plastic the floor and furniture, but you can catch nearly 90% of all the falling "popcorn texture" when you scrape by simply having the lid to a case of printer paper. Turn the lid upside down so it acts like a tray with raised edges, and keep it relatively close to the ceiling when scraping, all the texture falls directly into the tray. Very easy and kept mess at a minimum.

I might have to try this in a small room and see how it looks. The thing that has kept me from doing this throughout my house is the PITA of masking all walls and floor. I was going to go back with a knock-down finish on the ceiling anyway, so if I can dry scrape it and make it look like something, that might be the answer.

Iowanian
04-21-2011, 09:43 AM
for all ceilings?

most of mines the 1ft sq fiber board.

Im gettin ready to paint the inside of my place. Its IDK the walls are anywhere from 40-80+ year old brown wood board.

I wanna lighten the rooms up.
thoughts?


If you're painting over paneling, hit it with a coat of Kilz first to seal it in, then primer/paint so the stain doesn't bleed through.

I've also seen guys mud the ribs to smooth coat the wall for a quick, cheap fix.


I've helped cobble a lot of rentals over the years and that is the type of stuff we did to update a house but low cost.

MOhillbilly
04-21-2011, 09:57 AM
any particular kind of kilz? i want the shit to soak in 1st coat.

Bacon Cheeseburger
04-21-2011, 12:33 PM
Are we talking about the typical smooth finished paneling?

B-I-N is about the best primer out there for that, you can throw that stuff onto pretty much anything and it will stick. But it's shellac-based and kinda hard to work with.

Original Kilz is the very good, but you'll be short a few brain cells by the time you're done with it. Use a respirator and have as much ventilation as possible if you go that route.

If it was me, I'd use the Kilz2, it's water based and much more pleasant to work with, but it's just not as good as the original. Make sure the surface is as clean as possible and thoroughly scuff if it's glossy.

And yes, I always used flat paints for all ceilings unless a customer specified otherwise, and even then I tried to talk them out of it.

scott free
04-21-2011, 12:36 PM
Our house is only 8 years old and it has popcorn ceilings. I thought that shit went the way of the dodo back in 1986.

We've scraped all the bedrooms and bathrooms. Only the living room and kitchen left.

Is that Rob Riggle in your av?

Los Pollos Hermanos
04-21-2011, 12:37 PM
Is that Rob Riggle in your av?

Yes.

MOhillbilly
04-21-2011, 12:39 PM
thanks bug

BIN is hard to work with because?

scott free
04-21-2011, 12:39 PM
Yes.

Cool, i love that guy, steals every scene he's in in 'Stepbrothers', didnt know he was a Chiefs fan, he's gotta be the funniest Marine Lt. Col to have ever existed.

Is that you interviewing him?

Bacon Cheeseburger
04-21-2011, 12:43 PM
thanks bug

BIN is hard to work with because?
It has a lot of 'bite' to it, so it grabs on to the surface and is hard to spread out. But that bite is what makes it a great primer. And buy cheap rollers and brushes because you'll be throwing them out when you're done.

Los Pollos Hermanos
04-21-2011, 12:43 PM
Cool, i love that guy, steals every scene he's in in 'Stepbrothers', didnt know he was a Chiefs fan, he's gotta be the funniest Marine Lt. Col to have ever existed.

Is that you interviewing him?

Yes, that's me. You can call me Clark. Or Mr. Hunt. :)

Riggle grew up in Overland Park.

scott free
04-21-2011, 12:46 PM
Yes, that's me. You can call me Clark. Or Mr. Hunt. :)

Riggle grew up in Overland Park.

Doh! couldnt tell that was ol Clarkie.

You sure you arent Rob?

Los Pollos Hermanos
04-21-2011, 12:48 PM
Doh! couldnt tell that was ol Clarkie.

You sure you arent Rob?

I'm not.

I'm Paul Rudd.

http://blog.mitchellandness.com/image.axd?picture=2009%2F8%2FPAUL+RUDD.JPG

scott free
04-21-2011, 12:52 PM
I'm not.

I'm Paul Rudd.

http://blog.mitchellandness.com/image.axd?picture=2009%2F8%2FPAUL+RUDD.JPG

Thats killer, always heard you were a Chiefs fan.

What an outstanding career you're having.

Best wishes dude.

Iowanian
04-21-2011, 03:39 PM
You know how I know you're gay? You're playing pocket pool while you hold another man's jersey.

Guru
08-26-2011, 03:13 PM
shananagans.

Ecto-I
08-26-2011, 03:20 PM
ROFLYou know how I know you're gay? You're playing pocket pool while you hold another man's jersey.

keg in kc
08-26-2011, 03:26 PM
Whacking the popcorn ceiling sounds like something to do with genital warts.

vailpass
08-26-2011, 03:36 PM
I didn't think I could do drywall either but it turns out to be super easy.
Everything you need is at Home Depot.
They are usually standing around in groups in the parking lot.

Earthling
08-26-2011, 04:06 PM
For the primer/sealer I highly recommend Windsor Bullseye. I personally think it seals better than Kilz, which I used exclusively until I tried the Bullseye. It comes in oil or water based as well. (I like the water cleanup so i try to use the water based whenever possible.)

Contrarian
08-26-2011, 04:51 PM
You can get a solution to add to the water or use vinegar and dilute the water for spraying the ceiling. Then use an 8 inch knife to scrape off. Once you have it all off then do it for a second time and sand with a sanding pole.

You want to let it dry then prime the ceiling with a primer. I use Sherwin Williams Pro Prime it's water based, no need to apply an oil base primer unless you want to use respirators the rest of the way. I always add a couple squirts of black to the primer so it's gray and you can see imperfections easily. Plus when you spray your texture on you can see your pattern to keep it even.

Mud your imperfections, clean up with a sanding sponge, and start spraying texture on it.

nstygma
08-26-2011, 04:53 PM
For the primer/sealer I highly recommend Windsor Bullseye. I personally think it seals better than Kilz, which I used exclusively until I tried the Bullseye. It comes in oil or water based as well. (I like the water cleanup so i try to use the water based whenever possible.)
are you talking about Zinsser Bullseye?

vailpass
08-26-2011, 04:53 PM
You guys do realize that when you perform this sort of labor for yourself you are taking work away from people who are taking work away from Americans?

nstygma
08-26-2011, 05:30 PM
You guys do realize that when you perform this sort of labor for yourself you are taking work away from people who are taking work away from Americans?whenever i take work away from people who are taking work away from americans, i get a warm feeling inside. is that the feeling of patriotism?

MIAdragon
08-26-2011, 05:33 PM
I didn't think I could do drywall either but it turns out to be super easy.
Everything you need is at Home Depot.
They are usually standing around in groups in the parking lot.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/179552d1313437098-animated-gif-thread-tumblr_lpw7u762t41qivswu.gif

Dunit35
02-19-2013, 02:07 PM
I'm wanting to do this to my house. For some reason, previous owners only removed the master bedroom, den, and the bathrooms of popcorn ceiling. I know how to remove the popcorn. Its the steps i take after removal, to retexture. Anyone care to give me instructions?

penguinz
02-19-2013, 02:26 PM
I'm wanting to do this to my house. For some reason, previous owners only removed the master bedroom, den, and the bathrooms of popcorn ceiling. I know how to remove the popcorn. Its the steps i take after removal, to retexture. Anyone care to give me instructions?Don;t retexture. Just patch any bad spots, sand smooth and paint.

ptlyon
02-19-2013, 02:29 PM
Something about whacking, popcorn, & ceiling made me enter this thread.

/leaving

Groves
02-19-2013, 02:42 PM
I was hoping for a Dinny sighting.

Spott
02-19-2013, 02:54 PM
Never had a problem with popcorn ceilings but knock down ones do look nice. Taking the popcorn off is a huge mess, though.

PackerinMo
02-19-2013, 02:55 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EbAvq45Quho/TmywkrtS6iI/AAAAAAAAApE/gUu6pyyXecM/s1600/what.gif

htismaqe
02-19-2013, 02:57 PM
Something about whacking, popcorn, & ceiling made me enter this thread.

/leaving

Yeah, I was hoping for so much more when I clicked on this thread...

ExtremeChief
02-19-2013, 02:59 PM
Zinsser B-I-N is great stuff. You can paint over oil base paint and get adherence if you use it.

I have the damn popcorn on my ceilings as well with the added touch of fucking glitter. Awesome.

Dunit35
02-19-2013, 03:42 PM
Don;t retexture. Just patch any bad spots, sand smooth and paint.

I want to give it a look compared to my den. The ceiling in there looks great.

Radar Chief
02-19-2013, 03:46 PM
Something about whacking, popcorn, & ceiling made me enter this thread.

/leaving

That and I hadnít seen Dinny Blues forever.

Iowanian
02-19-2013, 03:46 PM
Then do what I said, smooth in where you dig too deep and paint it.

Once the popcorn is down, you can always hit it with some knockdown.

Bacon Cheeseburger
02-19-2013, 04:00 PM
I'm wanting to do this to my house. For some reason, previous owners only removed the master bedroom, den, and the bathrooms of popcorn ceiling. I know how to remove the popcorn. Its the steps i take after removal, to retexture. Anyone care to give me instructions?
My instructions would be not to try to do that yourself.

stevieray
02-19-2013, 05:14 PM
I just finished removing 3000 sq ft of popcorn ceiling.