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alnorth
04-20-2011, 02:49 PM
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<tr> <td>Final</td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 2 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 9 </td><td> R </td><td> H </td><td> E </td></tr>
<tr> <td> CLE (13-5) </td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 11 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
<tr> <td> KC (11-7) </td> <td> 2 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 1 </td></tr>
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Luke Hochevar had a Perfect Game through 5 innings.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg81/Northjayhawk/cle.png

Win, (4-0) Justin Masterson 6IP 2R 2ER 5BB 3K
Hold, (3) Rafael Perez ⅓IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K
Hold, (1) Vinnie Pestano ⅔IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Joe Smith 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Tony Sipp ⅔IP 3R 3ER 1BB 0K 1HR
Save, (6) Chris Perez ⅓IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

VS.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg81/Northjayhawk/kc.png

Loss, (2-2) Luke Hochevar 6IP 6R 6ER 3BB 4K
Tim Collins 1IP 0R 0ER 2BB 1K
Kanekoa Texeira 2IP 1R 1ER 1BB 0K

Home Runs

CLE

none

KC

Jeff Francoeur, (3) - Bottom 9th 2-run homer to left

AL Central

Who cares, its our division, the other 3 teams just get to play.

Starting Lineups

CLE

1. Grady Sizemore, CF
2. Asdrubal Cabrera, SS
3. Shin-Soo Choo, RF
4. Carlos Santana, C
5. Travis Hafner, DH
6. Orlando Cabrera, 2B
7. Michael Brantley, LF
8. Matt LaPorta, 1B
9. Jack Hannahan, 3B

KC

1. Chris Getz, 2B
2. Melky Cabrera, CF
3. Alex Gordon, LF
4. Billy Butler, DH
5. Jeff Francoeur, RF
6. Mike Aviles, 3B
7. Kila Ka'aihue, 1B
8. Matt Treanor, C
9. Alcides Escobar, SS

Pants
04-20-2011, 02:52 PM
Is Masterson really as good as his ERA suggests?

alnorth
04-20-2011, 02:56 PM
Is Masterson really as good as his ERA suggests?

Not even close.

2010: 6-13, 4.70 ERA, 1.50 WHIP
Career: 19-28, 4.16 ERA, 1.40 WHIP

He's not a bad pitcher (if he was on a team with good run support), but he's not a #1 or #2, either.

Dartgod
04-20-2011, 02:59 PM
I see Aviles is in the lineup again. I sure hope he doesn't injure himself in pregame warmups. /reversemojo
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keg in kc
04-20-2011, 02:59 PM
Hochevar's whip is better than I thought.

Pants
04-20-2011, 03:01 PM
Not even close.

2010: 6-13, 4.70 ERA, 1.50 WHIP
Career: 19-28, 4.16 ERA, 1.40 WHIP

He's not a bad pitcher (if he was on a team with good run support), but he's not a #1 or #2, either.

Cool, thanks.

RockChalk
04-20-2011, 03:33 PM
No fighting tonight, Al :thumb:

Demonpenz
04-20-2011, 03:34 PM
GOD DAMN ROCK CHALK /Al

Deberg_1990
04-20-2011, 03:37 PM
Im sure all 5,000+ in attendence tonight will be in a frenzy!!!

Bambi
04-20-2011, 03:37 PM
Let's Do Dis!

RockChalk
04-20-2011, 03:43 PM
GOD DAMN ROCK CHALK /Al

I look forward to throwing out random former Royal bench players with you during the game, although I won't be on until the later innings tonight

Pasta Giant Meatball
04-20-2011, 03:46 PM
Not even close.

2010: 6-13, 4.70 ERA, 1.50 WHIP
Career: 19-28, 4.16 ERA, 1.40 WHIP

He's not a bad pitcher (if he was on a team with good run support), but he's not a #1 or #2, either.

He's only 26 though. You never know when the light bulb is going to turn on for a player.

RockChalk
04-20-2011, 03:49 PM
He's only 26 though. You never know when the light bulb is going to turn on for a player.

Same could be said about Hoch

Pasta Giant Meatball
04-20-2011, 03:50 PM
Same could be said about Hoch

Yes, it definately could.

Demonpenz
04-20-2011, 04:02 PM
I look forward to throwing out random former Royal bench players with you during the game, although I won't be on until the later innings tonight

I wish Saul Good would have saved some. Like the Sal Fasano was just overkill. He should have one bench player a day, LMAO LMAO LMAO Gary Thurman

CoMoChief
04-20-2011, 04:13 PM
So what's the over/under for the amount of HR's Hochever will give up today?

Three7s
04-20-2011, 04:31 PM
So what's the over/under for the amount of HR's Hochever will give up today?
Well, I think the wind is blowing out of the north, so that may help him out. I'll still say 3.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 04:32 PM
Alex pretty much won last nights game single-handedly, somebody else needs to step it up tonight

CoMoChief
04-20-2011, 05:05 PM
Need this game.

Fully expect the Royals to start losing here in a couple weeks....maybe even sooner.

But I'm liking this so far and hope they can keep it up, this city is CRAVING for this team to be good.

Feels like 2003 again.

KurtCobain
04-20-2011, 05:06 PM
Hochever better man the fuck up today.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 05:15 PM
Do I need to start a parallel "Come on, Chen!" thread, like yesterday? That thing owned.

kysirsoze
04-20-2011, 05:17 PM
Do I need to start a parallel "Come on, Chen!" thread, like yesterday? That thing owned.

We should start three or four competing threads. See what happens.

Coach
04-20-2011, 05:41 PM
Need to win this....

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 05:45 PM
we need to come up with a nick name for the 'K's left field...like Gordonville or Alex County

KCUnited
04-20-2011, 05:46 PM
we need to come up with a nick name for the 'K's left field...like Gordonville or Alex County

Wonderland.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 05:47 PM
we need to come up with a nick name for the 'K's left field...like Gordonville or Alex County

Legends or Leaders.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 05:48 PM
Do I need to start a parallel "Come on, Chen!" thread, like yesterday? That thing owned.


It worked yesterday, why not?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pX9R9Y1t2BA/StlFPHmbVwI/AAAAAAAAAF4/-9TLBi6WaPM/s400/waiting.jpg

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 05:56 PM
we need to come up with a nick name for the 'K's left field...like Gordonville or Alex County

Outlandis Automatica

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:00 PM
I wish Saul Good would have saved some. Like the Sal Fasano was just overkill. He should have one bench player a day, LMAO LMAO LMAO Gary Thurman

You mean I have to choose between Dave Leeper and Pat Sheridan today? Tell me how I'm supposed to do that.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:02 PM
What if it's a pitcher? Joe Beckwith or Billy Brewer? That's like choosing between blondes and brunettes.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 06:03 PM
Dave Henderson is pitching BP to Rico Rossy

stonedstooge
04-20-2011, 06:06 PM
Hope we have Cool Hand Luke pitching tonight

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 06:09 PM
Stupid for Betemit not to be in the lineup.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:11 PM
Top 1st

Sizemore pops out to shortstop
A. Cabrera flies out to right
Choo flies out to right

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 1st

Getz grounds out to second
Cabrera walks
Gordon triples to right, Cabrera scores
Butler strikes out (swinging)
Francoeur singles to center, Gordon scores
Aviles singles to center, Francoeur to second
Ka'aihue walks, Aviles to second, Francoeur to third
Treanor pops out to second

2 runs, 3 hits

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:11 PM
just barely got back for 1st pitch

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 06:14 PM
not a bad way to start

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:15 PM
So glad we sat Betemit so both Avilles and Kila could play. I guess Yost felt we didn't have enough fail in the lineup

Mr. Laz
04-20-2011, 06:17 PM
Stupid for Betemit not to be in the lineup.dam love affair with Aviles that i just don't get.

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:18 PM
Stupid for Betemit not to be in the lineup.

It isn't like Butler could play 1st and Betemit DH or anything.

Mr. Laz
04-20-2011, 06:20 PM
Alice Fucking Gordon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 06:20 PM
14 in a row

Dominating

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 06:20 PM
I agree, pete and laz. I don't get it.

And, fuck yes, Gordon.

keg in kc
04-20-2011, 06:20 PM
Holy crap, who is this guy wearing number four?

stonedstooge
04-20-2011, 06:20 PM
Damn Gordon. Hitting like a friggin machine

milkman
04-20-2011, 06:20 PM
I take credit for Gordon.

Mr. Laz
04-20-2011, 06:20 PM
omg ... that swing by Gordon looked so much like George Brett i just about JIMP

BigMeatballDave
04-20-2011, 06:20 PM
Dominate

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:21 PM
Nice

keg in kc
04-20-2011, 06:22 PM
Belly Butler with the swing and miss.

keg in kc
04-20-2011, 06:22 PM
French Dip!

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 06:22 PM
Frenchy!!!!!!!

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:22 PM
Frenchy!!

10 game streak for him

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:22 PM
Frenchy making his mark in KC

milkman
04-20-2011, 06:22 PM
2-0, just like that kids.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
Loving life.

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
Lets get into their pen early tonight with a day game tommorow

keg in kc
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
Was that Avilass?

stonedstooge
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
What's that do to the old ERA Alnorth?

BigMeatballDave
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
Batting practice

Mr. Laz
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
already doubled masterson's era

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
wait a minute...Aviles is hitting?

Mr. Arrowhead
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
Was Frenchy this good in Atlanta, or is he just off to some good lucky start.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
Rally kila?

keg in kc
04-20-2011, 06:24 PM
Aw shit, Kila's up.

Well, it was fun while it lasted.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:24 PM
post on a generic baseball thread from a non-royals fan:

Alex Gordon apparently isn't fucking around this year.

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:24 PM
allrigh Kila,, pul your head out here

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 06:24 PM
Iniing K'iaala

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 06:24 PM
Damn that pitch looked good.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:25 PM
Was Frenchy this good in Atlanta, or is he just off to some good lucky start.

Frenchy has never been remotely this good, just as Gordon hasn't been this good.

If Gordon becomes a beast, Frenchy is good, Butler is good, Moose and Hosmer come up...

then who the hell knows what happens.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 06:25 PM
Perfect.

keg in kc
04-20-2011, 06:26 PM
Maybe losing weight has been good for Frenchy.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 06:26 PM
Break this fucker open

BigMeatballDave
04-20-2011, 06:26 PM
Lets get into their pen early tonight with a day game tommorowNo day game tomorrow

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:26 PM
make him throw strikes

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:26 PM
Lets get into their pen early tonight with a day game tommorow

Tomorrow is a night game

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:26 PM
just about the only thing Kila can do offensively anymore is take a walk.

WoodDraw
04-20-2011, 06:27 PM
According to Gameday, this ump is borderline incompetent. I wonder how accurate their pitch locator is...

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 06:27 PM
Treanor, behold the porn stache

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:27 PM
Sox and twins both losing right now

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:28 PM
No day game tomorrow

Just looked it up, you're right Assumed it was a day game. Sucks to have a night game to end a 4 game series and go on the road the following night

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:28 PM
According to Gameday, this ump is borderline incompetent. I wonder how accurate their pitch locator is...

I'm trust gameday on this one, because the HP ump is Joe West.

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:29 PM
According to Gameday, this ump is borderline incompetent. I wonder how accurate their pitch locator is...

Alot of his pitches have been outside

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 06:30 PM
Eh. Good inning, though. Lots of pitches.

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:30 PM
damn, still made him throw alot of pitches though

AndChiefs
04-20-2011, 06:30 PM
Kendall would've hit a grand slam.

keg in kc
04-20-2011, 06:30 PM
Hell of an at bat, even if it ended bad.

Toadkiller
04-20-2011, 06:31 PM
Anyone know of a stream for this anywhere?

teedubya
04-20-2011, 06:31 PM
Just tuned in 2-0 already... fuck yeah.

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 06:31 PM
Nice, Royals and Thunder off to a strong start!

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:32 PM
Kendall would've hit a grand slam.

Yep! Right over the 250 wall

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:33 PM
Top 2nd

Santana strikes out (looking)
Hafner grounds out to shortstop
O. Cabrera grounds out to shortstop

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 2nd

Escobar grounds out to second
Getz grounds out to second
Cabrera flies out to left

0 runs, 0 hits

AndChiefs
04-20-2011, 06:33 PM
Yep! Right over the 250 wall

Nah I was thinking more on a little league field. Provided a little leaguer was pitching.

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:33 PM
Nice pitch

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 06:33 PM
that was strike two`

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:34 PM
That was nasty

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:34 PM
nice

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 06:34 PM
filthy pitch

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:34 PM
heh, sit down Santana.

Joe West's strike zone is tiny, but it aint THAT tiny.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 06:35 PM
oye como va

Sit the fuck down

Mr. Laz
04-20-2011, 06:35 PM
wonder what would be like to have complete catcher

WoodDraw
04-20-2011, 06:35 PM
Seriously, is the ump being really tight or is the gameday tracker just off? There have been several pitches almost in the middle called balls.

Captain Obvious
04-20-2011, 06:35 PM
I have a huge man crush on Alex Gordon.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:35 PM
Hell of an at bat, even if it ended bad.

Dude saw 5 pitches in the meat of the plate with the bases loaded. He took 2 of them, popped one up foul, dribbled one foul, and then popped out to short. I'm going to go ahead and disagree with your assessment of that AB.

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:36 PM
heh

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:36 PM
Seriously, is the ump being really tight or is the gameday tracker just off? There have been several pitches almost in the middle called balls.

MLB's gameday isn't showing down the middle balls for me, but Joe West is known for a small strike zone.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:36 PM
I have a huge man crush on Alex Gordon.

Gordon is a huge man.

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 06:37 PM
Hoch has a little swag tonight

SPchief
04-20-2011, 06:37 PM
Hochaver off to a great start

Captain Obvious
04-20-2011, 06:37 PM
Dude saw 5 pitches in the meat of the plate with the bases loaded. He took 2 of them, popped one up foul, dribbled one foul, and then popped out to short. I'm going to go ahead and disagree with your assessment of that AB.

There will be no disagreements in a Royals thread. Learn from the past.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:37 PM
MLB's gameday isn't showing down the middle balls for me, but Joe West is known for a small strike zone.

He's been pretty good so far.

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:37 PM
Seriously, is the ump being really tight or is the gameday tracker just off? There have been several pitches almost in the middle called balls.

I think gameday is off. No way an ump can call a strike a ball.

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:38 PM
Gordon is a huge man.

Not sur i want to know how you know how huge he is.......lol

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:38 PM
I think gameday is off. No way an ump can call a strike a ball.

That's easy for you to say. You always give the umps the benefit of the doubt.

Captain Obvious
04-20-2011, 06:39 PM
That's easy for you to say. You always give the umps the benefit do the doubt.

ROFL:LOL:LMAO

teedubya
04-20-2011, 06:40 PM
I bet Trey Hillman is pissed that Gordon is finally ****ing hitting. lol.

Billy Butler and Gordon are 4th and 5th in AL batting avg., now.

petegz28
04-20-2011, 06:40 PM
That's easy for you to say. You always give the umps the benefit of the doubt.

What can i say? Im a big softy when it comes to officials in sports.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:44 PM
What can i say? Im a big softy when it comes to officials in sports.

I definitely do that in basketball.

In my opinion, basketball is crazy-hard to officiate, so I never bitch unless it is a jaw-dropping bad call.

duncan_idaho
04-20-2011, 06:45 PM
West actually looks OK to me so far tonight. Made a good call on the backdoor two-seamer for the looking K. I'm sure he'll slack off as the game goes, though...

Complete catcher? Meh. I think having a big offensive guy at catcher is one of the more overrated things in baseball. As long as they're not embarrassingly bad at the plate and the defense is solid, I'm good.

It's an offensive advantage, but the guys who actually rake are on the field 20-30 games less than most offensive linchpins. They also tend to wear down offensively as the season goes on. And few guys are truly elite defenders and elite hitters (even in baseball history).

Mauer (though they're moving him off the plate, I think. Two-three years too late...)
Ivan Rodriguez
Bench
Campanella
Mickey Cochrane
Maybe a few others.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:46 PM
West actually looks OK to me so far tonight. Made a good call on the backdoor two-seamer for the looking K. I'm sure he'll slack off as the game goes, though...

He's certainly better than that crappy crew we had for Seattle. I've just read that he's known for a tight zone.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:47 PM
West actually looks OK to me so far tonight. Made a good call on the backdoor two-seamer for the looking K. I'm sure he'll slack off as the game goes, though...

Complete catcher? Meh. I think having a big offensive guy at catcher is one of the more overrated things in baseball. As long as they're not embarrassingly bad at the plate and the defense is solid, I'm good.

It's an offensive advantage, but the guys who actually rake are on the field 20-30 games less than most offensive linchpins. They also tend to wear down offensively as the season goes on. And few guys are truly elite defenders and elite hitters (even in baseball history).

Mauer (though they're moving him off the plate, I think. Two-three years too late...)
Ivan Rodriguez
Bench
Campanella
Mickey Cochrane
Maybe a few others.

Aren't you forgetting former Royal Chad Kreuter?

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:47 PM
Top 3rd

Brantley grounds out to first 3-1
LaPorta strikes out (swinging)
Hannahan grounds out to first

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 3rd

Gordon strikes out (swinging) 2-3
Butler singles to center
Francoeur grounds into a 6-4-3 double play, Butler out at second

0 runs, 1 hit

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 06:47 PM
KK

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:49 PM
Hoch is cruising.

SPATCH
04-20-2011, 06:50 PM
Hochaver off to a great start

swag on full

milkman
04-20-2011, 06:52 PM
West actually looks OK to me so far tonight. Made a good call on the backdoor two-seamer for the looking K. I'm sure he'll slack off as the game goes, though...

Complete catcher? Meh. I think having a big offensive guy at catcher is one of the more overrated things in baseball. As long as they're not embarrassingly bad at the plate and the defense is solid, I'm good.

It's an offensive advantage, but the guys who actually rake are on the field 20-30 games less than most offensive linchpins. They also tend to wear down offensively as the season goes on. And few guys are truly elite defenders and elite hitters (even in baseball history).

Mauer (though they're moving him off the plate, I think. Two-three years too late...)
Ivan Rodriguez
Bench
Campanella
Mickey Cochrane
Maybe a few others.

Having watched the Dodgers a lot over the years, I've always said that I would rather have Mike Scocia than Mike Piazza.

Piazza was a liability behind the plate, and was really not much of a clutch hitter.

Soscia was one of teh best defensive catchers I've ever seen, and he called a great game for his pitchers, and while he wasn't a great hitter, he was far more reliable in the clutch than Piaza.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:53 PM
Having watched the Dodgers a lot over the years, I've always said that I would rather have Mike Scocia than Mike Piazza.

Piazza was a liability behind the plate, and was really not much of a clutch hitter.

Soscia was one of teh best defensive catchers I've ever seen, and he called a great game for his pitchers, and while he wasn't a great hitter, he was far more reliable in the clutch than Piaza.

Well, that's one opinion.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:54 PM
Top 4th

Sizemore flies out to right
A. Cabrera grounds out to second
Choo strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 4th

Aviles grounds out to third
Ka'aihue singles to right
Treanor strikes out (swinging)
Escobar grounds out to third

0 runs, 1 hit

BigMeatballDave
04-20-2011, 06:54 PM
Shit. Did Masterson find his stuff all of a sudden?

Glad we touched him early.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:55 PM
Shit. Did Masterson find his stuff all of a sudden?

Glad we touched him early.

Dude's pitching like a young Mac Suzuki.

chefsos
04-20-2011, 06:55 PM
Q: Can a non-Royals fan fuck up the mojo by saying HO SHAVER HAS A PERFECT GAME GOING?

?

duncan_idaho
04-20-2011, 06:56 PM
Having watched the Dodgers a lot over the years, I've always said that I would rather have Mike Scocia than Mike Piazza.

Piazza was a liability behind the plate, and was really not much of a clutch hitter.

Soscia was one of teh best defensive catchers I've ever seen, and he called a great game for his pitchers, and while he wasn't a great hitter, he was far more reliable in the clutch than Piaza.

Scioscia was a stud. And exactly the type of catcher I'd love to have playing for my team.

I'd actually like to see the Royals make a run at Yadier Molina when he becomes a free agent (possible after this season, not sure how big the club option is for Molina). If they throw crazy money at Pujols, I think Molina will be let go...

Great defender. Controls the running game. Experienced. Winner.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:56 PM
Q: Can a non-Royals fan fuck up the mojo by saying HO SHAVER HAS A PERFECT GAME GOING?

?

Nope

Captain Obvious
04-20-2011, 06:57 PM
?

You shut your whore-mouth!!!

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 06:57 PM
Having watched the Dodgers a lot over the years, I've always said that I would rather have Mike Scocia than Mike Piazza.

Piazza was a liability behind the plate, and was really not much of a clutch hitter.

Soscia was one of teh best defensive catchers I've ever seen, and he called a great game for his pitchers, and while he wasn't a great hitter, he was far more reliable in the clutch than Piaza.

The bold doesn't really exist, by all statistical measures. Now, I do think that, mentally, some pitchers "have" to have a particular catcher, but pitchers by their very nature are emotionally fragile fucks.

Not arguing your overall point about these two players. Just saying...

For me, give me bats. Catcher is the one position where the defense is actually very overrated. As long as he can throw, ok, everything else will be fine. The vast majority of ML catchers can't block for shit.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 06:57 PM
Q: Can a non-Royals fan **** up the mojo by saying HO SHAVER HAS A PERFECT GAME GOING?

?

A: no. Intentionally trying to sabotage a player you don't like doesn't count. Its only if a bona-fide Royals fan points it out early.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 06:58 PM
Hochevar playing video game style throwing 5 different pitches.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 06:59 PM
Hochevar playing video game style throwing 5 different pitches.

He played RBI Baseball earlier today.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:00 PM
He played RBI Baseball earlier today.

Did you know that George Brett batted right-handed in RBI baseball? Joe Vitiello told me that today.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:00 PM
Q: Can a non-Royals fan fuck up the mojo by saying HO SHAVER HAS A PERFECT GAME GOING?

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Shh


Get to the end of the bench

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:01 PM
Did you know that George Brett batted right-handed in RBI baseball? Joe Vitiello told me that today.

You have my BlueWave playing card?

milkman
04-20-2011, 07:01 PM
The bold doesn't really exist, by all statistical measures. Now, I do think that, mentally, some pitchers "have" to have a particular catcher, but pitchers by their very nature are emotionally fragile ****s.

Not arguing your overall point about these two players. Just saying...

For me, give me bats. Catcher is the one position where the defense is actually very overrated. As long as he can throw, ok, everything else will be fine. The vast majority of ML catchers can't block for shit.

Soscia used to study film on batters for hours.

He got to know their tendencies better than the people paid to scout for the team.

He had a plan for each batter in every situation.

And you know me.

Stats mean jack.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:01 PM
This must be what a mother bird feels when she pushes her babies out of the nest and watches them fly. God knows I've barfed up a lot of worms watching Luke pitch over the past few years.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:03 PM
Soscia used to study film on batters for hours.

He got to know their tendencies better than the people paid to scout for the team.

He had a plan for each batter in every situation.

And you know me.

Stats mean jack.

I understand your position about the statistical studies, and that's cool. Honestly, I don't know enough about this particular player to make a cogent counter-argument, so I'll concede the point here.

I know the player. Seen him play. Just not enough to where I wouldn't be talking out of my ass.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:04 PM
This must be what a mother bird feels when she pushes her babies out of the nest and watches them fly. God knows I've barfed up a lot of worms watching Luke pitch over the past few years.

LMAO.

SPchief
04-20-2011, 07:04 PM
Who is this guy?

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:04 PM
Holy shit Kila got a hit

milkman
04-20-2011, 07:04 PM
I'll be damned.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:05 PM
Porn stache FTW

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:05 PM
BA up to .152.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 07:06 PM
Soscia used to study film on batters for hours.

He got to know their tendencies better than the people paid to scout for the team.

He had a plan for each batter in every situation.

And you know me.

Stats mean jack.

A lot of very smart people have looked very long and hard to find a catcher's impact on the pitcher.

If it exists, it is so small that it is undetectable over random noise. So, I'll take the best bat.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 07:09 PM
Top 5th

Santana grounds out to 3-1
Hafner flies out to right
O. Cabrera flies out to left

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 5th

Getz hit by pitch
Cabrera reaches on a 4-6 fielder's choice, Getz out at second
Gordon flies out to center
Butler flies out to right

0 runs, 0 hits

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:11 PM
Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke

Blankey
04-20-2011, 07:11 PM
Hoch has to throw right down the middle to get a call

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:12 PM
Yep, ball seemed hit harder than that.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:12 PM
Hoch has to throw right down the middle to get a call

Yep. That jackoff jumps backwards at pitches on the inside corner, and West bought it. Umps generally like to give the call to the pitcher when the batter does that.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:13 PM
You fucking suck, Kila.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:13 PM
Dammit Kila

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:13 PM
Kila you pussy

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:14 PM
Careful, Kila. Don't get hurt, sweetie. Be careful.

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:14 PM
Upon replay kila gets bailed out

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:14 PM
If this guy reaches base, I say we string up Kila.

Archie F. Swin
04-20-2011, 07:14 PM
Kila still seems apprehensive

milkman
04-20-2011, 07:14 PM
You ****ing suck, Kila.

Yep.

He should have been able to make a play on that.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:14 PM
What's the pitch count?

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:14 PM
Who would have guessed this?

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:14 PM
Upon replay kila gets bailed out

No, he still showed a tremendous amount of bitch on that effort.

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:15 PM
Yep.

He should have been able to make a play on that.

I don't care if he drops it, but he's got to make an effort.

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:15 PM
Sox down by 3 in the 9th. Twins down by 2 in the 8th

stonedstooge
04-20-2011, 07:15 PM
Kila looks to have absolutely no confidence in the field or at the plate

BigMeatballDave
04-20-2011, 07:15 PM
Wow. Perfect thru 5

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:16 PM
Let's get some runs. I saw this game 5 days ago

chiefqueen
04-20-2011, 07:16 PM
What's the pitch count?

around 55-60

alnorth
04-20-2011, 07:16 PM
Game's now official, and Luke's the pitcher of record. That is my "not too early" time limit.

Blankey
04-20-2011, 07:16 PM
Did that ad say Kila and the Royals

thebrad84
04-20-2011, 07:16 PM
Upon replay kila gets bailed out

Why? I know it would have been a great play, but not beyond what is expected of a major league baseball player. The guy flat out sucks defensively and he sure as hell isn't making up for it at the plate right now.

SPchief
04-20-2011, 07:16 PM
Wow. Perfect thru 5

Ban him!

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:17 PM
That'll work

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:17 PM
Wow. Perfect thru 5


Dammit

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:18 PM
Sox lose their 7th straight. Twins down by only 1 now.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 07:19 PM
Dammit

nah, its fine. TV announcers start talking in the 6th inning, Live lookins from ESPN or wherever start happening sometimes in the 6th, non-fans watching other games start noticing, etc.

chefsos
04-20-2011, 07:21 PM
Sox lose their 7th straight. Twins down by only 1 now.Going to the ninth. I'll try to help you guys, because I care.

tk13
04-20-2011, 07:21 PM
Wow. Perfect thru 5

Ban hammer.

Brianfo
04-20-2011, 07:22 PM
If it's gonna happen. It will happen.

duncan_idaho
04-20-2011, 07:22 PM
I wish I'd been wrong about Kila. Really would be nice to have one more young bat with some pop and team control.

I'm fine with continuing to run him out until the All-Star Break, but he'd better start doing something if he expects to play in the majors beyond that...

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:23 PM
If we're in it around June 1st and Hosmer is ready, he needs to be here. Frankly, I think we'll see him before this.

tk13
04-20-2011, 07:24 PM
Frankly, I think we'll see him before this.

I don't think Frank White will have any say in the matter.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:24 PM
Sox lose their 7th straight

I feel so sorry for Hawk, Really I do


Home Depot

Stool

Rope

Do it

alnorth
04-20-2011, 07:25 PM
Hoch now featured prominently on MLB.com

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:25 PM
I don't think Frank White will have any say in the matter.

What does the #10 in LF mean?

alnorth
04-20-2011, 07:26 PM
Top 6th

Brantley singles to center
Brantley to second on a Balk
LaPorta doubles to left, Brantley scores
Hannahan grounds out to second, LaPorta to third
Sizemore grounds out to second
LaPorta scores on a Balk
A. Cabrera reaches on an infield single to pitcher
Choo doubles to center, A. Cabrera scores, Choo to third on the throw home
Santana walks
Hafner doubles to left, Santana to third, Choo scores
O. Cabrera strikes out (swinging)

4 runs, 5 hits

Bottom 6th

Francoeur fouls out to first
Aviles flies out to center
Ka'aihue singles to center
Treanor walks, Ka'aihue to second
Escobar pops out to second

0 runs, 1 hit

duncan_idaho
04-20-2011, 07:26 PM
If we're in it around June 1st and Hosmer is ready, he needs to be here. Frankly, I think we'll see him before this.

I just want the debate to be completely dead on Kila.

I think Hosmer is going to be good enough that even if Kila pulls a David Ortiz, it won't be talked about, but still...

chefsos
04-20-2011, 07:27 PM
Twins lose! Twins lose! Good for all of us...

AndChiefs
04-20-2011, 07:27 PM
And immediately gives up a hit...should ban him..

SPchief
04-20-2011, 07:27 PM
Fuck you BCD!

kstater
04-20-2011, 07:27 PM
Twins lose again.

tk13
04-20-2011, 07:27 PM
Okay, double ban hammer.

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:27 PM
So how woud you rank your hate level of al central rivals compared to afc west rivals.

Remember this is hate level, not skill level


Sox=Raiders
Twins=Boncos
Tribe=Chargers

BigMeatballDave
04-20-2011, 07:28 PM
Send all neg rep my way :)

SPchief
04-20-2011, 07:28 PM
Now that the crazyness is over, go get em luke

alnorth
04-20-2011, 07:29 PM
So how woud you rank your hate level of al central rivals compared to afc west rivals.

Remember this is hate level, not skill level


Sox=Raiders
Twins=Boncos
Tribe=Chargers

I'd switch the last two baseball teams.

Sure-Oz
04-20-2011, 07:29 PM
Keep it going Luke

BigMeatballDave
04-20-2011, 07:29 PM
ROFLFuck you BCD!

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:29 PM
I just want the debate to be completely dead on Kila.

I think Hosmer is going to be good enough that even if Kila pulls a David Ortiz, it won't be talked about, but still...

I understand. At a certain point, you just have to throw your arms and say, "Fuck it. Wasn't meant to be."

I know this isn't a "competing year," but at a certain point we're going to need to try to make the most out of the opportunity.

Demonpenz
04-20-2011, 07:29 PM
noooo

Sure-Oz
04-20-2011, 07:30 PM
Well that fucking sucks

Blankey
04-20-2011, 07:30 PM
Fuck me

stonedstooge
04-20-2011, 07:30 PM
Here we go again

BigMeatballDave
04-20-2011, 07:30 PM
poo

SPchief
04-20-2011, 07:30 PM
Calm down Hoch, you can get out of this

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:31 PM
Tie game on the way

Demonpenz
04-20-2011, 07:31 PM
it would be nice if we had some people know where the ball park is by time we are due to compete

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:31 PM
Tie game on the way

:shake:

stonedstooge
04-20-2011, 07:32 PM
Time for Evilas or Kila to F one up

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:32 PM
it would be nice if we had some people know where the ball park is by time we are due to compete

Posted from the K via TapaTalk

FYP, right?

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:32 PM
:shake:

You're right. Grady about to go yard here and taje the lead

kstater
04-20-2011, 07:33 PM
FYP, right?

You've been 'penzed.

alnorth
04-20-2011, 07:33 PM
calling it, infield popup followed by a sensational run-saving 6-3 play by Escobar.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:35 PM
Apparently I'm getting abused by 'penz and pete's reverse mojo.

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:35 PM
Think we need to see Crow next inning.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:35 PM
Palming the fucking face. Fucking shit.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:35 PM
God dammit

Sure-Oz
04-20-2011, 07:35 PM
WOW again wtf

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:35 PM
Are you fucking kidding me?

stonedstooge
04-20-2011, 07:35 PM
Luke losing his cool hand

KCUnited
04-20-2011, 07:35 PM
That's so Royals.

Sure-Oz
04-20-2011, 07:36 PM
Calm the fuck down Hoch

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:36 PM
Double palming the fucking face. Are you fucking kidding me with that shit, Hoch?

SPchief
04-20-2011, 07:36 PM
That was just dumb

Demonpenz
04-20-2011, 07:36 PM
damn falling apart

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:37 PM
Balked in the tying run.....that cant be a good sign

Saul Good
04-20-2011, 07:37 PM
He's always been a mental midget. If he can just figure the mental side out, he can be a good one.

Demonpenz
04-20-2011, 07:37 PM
FYP, right?

well played

AndChiefs
04-20-2011, 07:37 PM
I blame BCD for this entire inning.

stonedstooge
04-20-2011, 07:37 PM
We don't have to jinx it when Ryan won't shut the F up about no nos

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:38 PM
Motherfucker.

Sure-Oz
04-20-2011, 07:38 PM
This is pissing me off

SPchief
04-20-2011, 07:38 PM
shit

keg in kc
04-20-2011, 07:38 PM
This is a very Royals loss.

Blankey
04-20-2011, 07:38 PM
What a load of shit this half inning has been

petegz28
04-20-2011, 07:38 PM
That will just about do it. Way to fuck it off boys.

Demonpenz
04-20-2011, 07:39 PM
melky hits the cutoff man while fading away

Sure-Oz
04-20-2011, 07:39 PM
2 balks in the inning does that ever fucking happen

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-20-2011, 07:39 PM
Fuck me

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:39 PM
I'm having a hard time getting over that second fucking balk. That's basically giving up on the part of Hochevar. Inexcusable.

Demonpenz
04-20-2011, 07:39 PM
Dejesus was cool, but man Gordon is better right now

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:40 PM
And that was an outstanding effort from Melky.

Demonpenz
04-20-2011, 07:40 PM
you know pitchers do that fake to third throw to first all the time, when was the last time a pitcher threw to third

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:40 PM
Is there action in the pen?

keg in kc
04-20-2011, 07:40 PM
I'm having a hard time getting over that second ****ing balk. That's basically giving up on the part of Hochevar. Inexcusable.I think Frank White's right. He lost his focus when he lost the no-hitter.

DeezNutz
04-20-2011, 07:41 PM
Visit. Must have a visit. And get someone hot, quickly.