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ChiefsandO'sfan
04-22-2011, 02:47 PM
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Video Shows Woman Being Beaten At Baltimore Co. McDonald’s
April 22, 2011 4:41 PM

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ROSEDALE, Md. (WJZ) — A shocking video that’s gone viral Friday shows a woman being brutally beaten by two other women inside a Baltimore County McDonald’s restaurant.

Baltimore County Police say the incident occurred April 18 around 8 p.m. in the McDonald’s on Kenwood Avenue.

The video, which was posted on LiveLeak.com and made its way to the lead story on the Drudge Report by early Friday afternoon, shows the victim being viciously assaulted.

At one point an older woman steps in to try and stop the two attackers, but to no avail. After being dragged across the restaurant, the victim begins bleeding from the mouth and having a seizure, causing spectators to warn the attackers to run before the cops arrive.

“She’s bleeding, yo. Her mouth bleeding, her mouth bleeding! She’s having a [expletive] seizure, yo! She’s having a seizure right now, she needs help right now! Ya’al better get the [expletive] out of here now!” the cameraman is heard saying.

Finally, the two suspects stop the assault and leave the restaurant.

Both suspects were later identified.

A 14 year-old female has been charged as a juvenile. Charges are pending against an 18-year-old female. The incident remains under investigation and the State’s Attorney’s Office is reviewing the case.

The victim was transported to Franklin Square Hospital for treatment. No additional information about the victim’s condition is available at this time.

McDonald’s released the following statement regarding the incident on their website:

“We are shocked by the video from a Baltimore franchised restaurant showing an assault. This incident is unacceptable, disturbing and troubling. McDonald’s strives to be a safe, welcoming environment for everyone who visits. Nothing is more important to us than the safety of customers and employees in our restaurants. We are working with the franchisee and the local authorities to investigate this matter.”

Stay with WJZ.COM for the latest on this developing story.

MOhillbilly
04-22-2011, 02:51 PM
out come the blade and the blood. win.

Fish
04-22-2011, 02:55 PM
Ba daa ba ba baaaaaahhhhh....... I'M LOVIN IT!

blaise
04-22-2011, 02:57 PM
The guy shooting the video sees the girl having a seizure and his reaction is, "You better get out of here before the police come." Not, "oh no, is anyone calling an ambulance." or "Let me get their license plate number because they just beat this girl into a seizure." No, "You better go before you get in trouble."

Donger
04-22-2011, 02:57 PM
I wonder why these are always in fast food joints? I've never seen a video of this happening at a nice steak joint.

seclark
04-22-2011, 02:59 PM
folks might want to just start staying home and have a pizza delivered by hootie.

Pestilence
04-22-2011, 02:59 PM
Both of the girls should be arrested. The guy filming it should be arrested.


Fucking pathetic.

blaise
04-22-2011, 03:00 PM
I don't really get the "lol" part of the OP

vailpass
04-22-2011, 03:02 PM
folks might want to just start staying home and have a pizza delivered by hootie.

LMAO

crazycoffey
04-22-2011, 03:02 PM
the people watching and doing nothing to stop it should be charged with something too, especially since the girl ended up getting hurt even worse after the attacks continued.

bullshit pussy fucking cowards.

seclark
04-22-2011, 03:02 PM
I don't really get the "lol" part of the OP

i noticed that, also...
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Pestilence
04-22-2011, 03:02 PM
And fuck that manager. That's the best he can do to try and help stop it?

LiveSteam
04-22-2011, 03:05 PM
Once again. I cant understand what them sisters are screaming.

dannybcaitlyn
04-22-2011, 03:15 PM
Sheesh. I guess Mcdonalds will have to do what banks and schools do and hire security.

Buck
04-22-2011, 03:19 PM
Baltimore, eh?

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.

gblowfish
04-22-2011, 03:19 PM
I wish they've kicked the shit out of that boy/girl combo that do the funky hand jive in that one McDonalds commercial. I'd be all for that.

chiefsnorth
04-22-2011, 03:20 PM
The classiest people always end up in these videos... Yo.

DMAC
04-22-2011, 03:24 PM
Shocking. (again)

Halfcan
04-22-2011, 03:31 PM
Wow that is some Big Mac attack-lol

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2011, 03:33 PM
I was hoping someone would pick up a chair/pipe/baseball bat/gun and smash the two girls over the head with it to make them finally stop, then the guy filming it, then the manager and everyone else who worked there and did nothing.

seclark
04-22-2011, 03:33 PM
i was hoping they were going to get run over in the parking lot.
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Chocolate Hog
04-22-2011, 03:37 PM
Those 2 should be charged with a hate crime.

Bob Dole
04-22-2011, 03:48 PM
Sheesh. I guess Mcdonalds will have to do what banks and schools do and hire security.

All of the places open after 9 on weekends here have security on-site.

That said, this is an instance where Bob Dole would have a VERY difficult time not choking a bitch out. JFC, the only person that even TRIED to help was someone's fucking grandmother.

MOhillbilly
04-22-2011, 03:51 PM
you guys ever punch a girl? Its like punching a pillow. go home and try it.

Chocolate Hog
04-22-2011, 03:55 PM
Can the illiterate camera man be charged with anything for telling those ho bags they better flee from the scene of a crime?

Fritz88
04-22-2011, 03:56 PM
Why arent people trying to break it up?
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Chocolate Hog
04-22-2011, 03:59 PM
Whoa I read that women that got the shit beat out of her was actually a tranny?

BigMeatballDave
04-22-2011, 03:59 PM
ROFLyou guys ever punch a girl? Its like punching a pillow. go home and try it.

Chocolate Hog
04-22-2011, 03:59 PM
How the fuck does a man get beaten that badly by 2 chicks?

AndChiefs
04-22-2011, 03:59 PM
I'm extremely surprised this happened in the fine city of Baltimore.

Deberg_1990
04-22-2011, 04:00 PM
:facepalm:

a 14 year old girl and an 18 year old girl.....unreal. Where are the parents??

BigMeatballDave
04-22-2011, 04:01 PM
The white girl must have stolen their McRibs.

Chocolate Hog
04-22-2011, 04:02 PM
http://sillytranswoman.blogspot.com/2011/04/from-bilerico-project-transwoman.html

Bwana
04-22-2011, 04:03 PM
Its' to bad the gal wasn't packing. Boom....Drop! Boom....Drop! Yeah, can I get fries with that.

Tribal Warfare
04-22-2011, 04:05 PM
Jesus, she looks like she's having a seizure after that shit too

Lonewolf Ed
04-22-2011, 04:08 PM
:facepalm:

a 14 year old girl and an 18 year old girl.....unreal. Where are the parents??

The 14 year old and 18 year old were probably out getting food for their own kids...

DJ's left nut
04-22-2011, 04:10 PM
The guy shooting the video sees the girl having a seizure and his reaction is, "You better get out of here before the police come." Not, "oh no, is anyone calling an ambulance." or "Let me get their license plate number because they just beat this girl into a seizure." No, "You better go before you get in trouble."

Welcome to Baltimore.

That place sucks almost as badly as Detroit.

Deberg_1990
04-22-2011, 04:11 PM
The dude who filmed this (A McDonalds Employee) claims the victim wasnt a woman but a male cross-dresser who got into it when refused to leave the women’s bathroom. Also claims he faked the seizure.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

booger
04-22-2011, 04:13 PM
what a couple of fucking animals. the workers are some real dipshits too

Detoxing
04-22-2011, 04:13 PM
And the circle of hate continues. Like Bo said, those two should be charged for a hate crime.

If it was two white women beating a black girl, you know damn well someone would say it.

Detoxing
04-22-2011, 04:13 PM
the workers are some real dipshits too

This.

The manager is a fucking moron.

Urc Burry
04-22-2011, 04:13 PM
I'd make them bitches eyes even blacker

MIAdragon
04-22-2011, 04:13 PM
Fucking animals.

Detoxing
04-22-2011, 04:14 PM
The dude who filmed this (A McDonalds Employee) claims the victim wasnt a woman but a male cross-dresser who got into it when refused to leave the women’s bathroom. Also claims he faked the seizure.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

That changes things quite a bit.

Donger
04-22-2011, 04:15 PM
The dude who filmed this (A McDonalds Employee) claims the victim wasnt a woman but a male cross-dresser who got into it when refused to leave the women’s bathroom. Also claims he faked the seizure.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I guess we can remove Hamas and Reaper from the suspect list.

LiveSteam
04-22-2011, 04:16 PM
The cross dresser only wanted a HAPPY MEAL

Tribal Warfare
04-22-2011, 04:17 PM
Mel Gibson doesn't approve

Urc Burry
04-22-2011, 04:18 PM
The dude who filmed this (A McDonalds Employee) claims the victim wasnt a woman but a male cross-dresser who got into it when refused to leave the women’s bathroom. Also claims he faked the seizure.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

In that case:
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Fishpicker
04-22-2011, 04:33 PM
the people watching and doing nothing to stop it should be charged with something too, especially since the girl ended up getting hurt even worse after the attacks continued.

bullshit pussy ****ing cowards.

are you serious? do you really expect McDonalds employees to jump in and take the blows? they'd probably get fired if they fought back in any way. I agree that they're cowards but that is actually encouraged in most places.

Brock
04-22-2011, 04:38 PM
you guys ever punch a girl? Its like punching a pillow. go home and try it.

LMAO

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 04:40 PM
That changes things quite a bit.

Does it? Maybe if the person faked the seizure, it affect it a little but the rest of it not one bit. Fucking throw the book at them and never let them out of prison. They have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt they are worthless as human beings.

Heh not only are they dumb but they are also damn unlucky. Have this fight in virgina or penn and no enhancements, but if it's true that person is a crossdressor they get the extra enhancement of maryland hate crimes laws. While I'm never a fan of any hate crime law(because really aren't most violent crimes hate crimes?). In this case I'm supportive of any law that makes sure they never see the light of day again.

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 04:42 PM
The 14 year old and 18 year old were probably out getting food for their own grandkids...

fyp

seclark
04-22-2011, 04:57 PM
you guys ever punch a girl? Its like punching a pillow. go home and try it.

i just came to and crawled back to the keyboard. not your best advice, bro.
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RedNeckRaider
04-22-2011, 04:57 PM
i just came to and crawled back to the keyboard. not your best advice, bro.
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LMAO

cardken
04-22-2011, 05:14 PM
Both of the girls should be arrested. The guy filming it should be arrested.


****ing pathetic.

This

kcchiefsus
04-22-2011, 05:17 PM
I wonder why these are always in fast food joints? I've never seen a video of this happening at a nice steak joint.

Maybe because certain people can't afford to eat at those places.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-22-2011, 05:23 PM
Piece of shit girls. Why no one stepped in is beyond me. The black guys wouldn't step in probably because they liked it that the white girl was getting her ass beat. Piece of shit gangsta homies. Pisses me off. Have fun spending your welfare checks on drugs.

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 05:23 PM
Maybe because certain people can't afford to eat at those places.

or that there are a ton of serrated knives within arms reach, makes starting a fight a much more complicated process. Worse that you can get in a MickeyD's fight is sporked.

teedubya
04-22-2011, 05:24 PM
Shit like this is becoming more common, unfortunately. WTF is wrong with these people? Jesus.

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 05:27 PM
Shit like this is becoming more common, unfortunately. WTF is wrong with these people? Jesus.

:shrug: Just say no to cracker?

MIAdragon
04-22-2011, 05:41 PM
Piece of shit girls. Why no one stepped in is beyond me. The black guys wouldn't step in probably because they liked it that the white girl was getting her ass beat. Piece of shit gangsta homies. Pisses me off. Have fun spending your welfare checks on drugs.

Sucks we have to share space with these people, it's embarrassing really.

KC native
04-22-2011, 05:52 PM
meh, that wasn't that bad of a beat down. A couple black eyes, busted lip, some bruises. The tranny will be fine in a few days.

Gary
04-22-2011, 06:03 PM
All of the places open after 9 on weekends here have security on-site.

That said, this is an instance where Bob Dole would have a VERY difficult time not choking a bitch out. JFC, the only person that even TRIED to help was someone's ****ing grandmother.

Didn't read the entire thread yet, but that poses the question of how much self restraint a man can have while witnessing or attempting to stop a vicious attack by a woman or women. I'm with Bob Dole...I can't stand it when two or more people gang up on one person. I would have had to stepped in and tried to just physically kept the two girls away from the one. Then if the girls turned on me...well, see Bob Dole's solution.

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 06:03 PM
meh, that wasn't that bad of a beat down. A couple black eyes, busted lip, some bruises. The tranny will be fine in a few days.

better take her to aamco.

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mikey23545
04-22-2011, 06:09 PM
I wonder if Ray Lewis was driving the getaway car.

Johnny Vegas
04-22-2011, 06:09 PM
would anyone mind if a dude came in bustin both those bitches in the mouth to stop the fight?

mikey23545
04-22-2011, 06:10 PM
meh, that wasn't that bad of a beat down. A couple black eyes, busted lip, some bruises. The tranny will be fine in a few days.

Yeah, those damn Caucasians heal fast, right?

brorth
04-22-2011, 06:12 PM
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KC native
04-22-2011, 06:13 PM
Yeah, those damn Caucasians heal fast, right?

leave your hard on for me in DC fucking prick.

KC native
04-22-2011, 06:45 PM
Yeah, those damn Caucasians heal fast, right?

Aw, mikey leaves messages for me everywhere. How cute. Sorry mikey, I'm not gay. ROFL

Another beat down in... 04-22-2011 07:17 PM mikey23545 prick this, you racist fuck.

mikey23545
04-22-2011, 06:50 PM
Aw, mikey leaves messages for me everywhere. How cute. Sorry mikey, I'm not gay. ROFL

I don't blame you for trying to draw attention away from your blatant bigotry.

Hell, if you were gay there's nothing wrong with that...Are you homophobic too?

MIAdragon
04-22-2011, 06:51 PM
would anyone mind if a dude came in bustin both those bitches in the mouth to stop the fight?

nope.

KC native
04-22-2011, 06:52 PM
I don't blame you for trying to draw attention away from your blatant bigotry.

Hell, if you were gay there's nothing wrong with that...Are you homophobic too?

Ah, this is rich coming from you.

RJ
04-22-2011, 06:58 PM
I remember when that neighborhood was the suburbs. I played youth football just a few blocks from that McDonalds. There are things I love about Baltimore but I would never want to go back.

mikey23545
04-22-2011, 07:02 PM
Ah, this is rich coming from you.

You have something against rich people too?

Man, you are one fucked up dude.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 07:16 PM
the people watching and doing nothing to stop it should be charged with something too, especially since the girl ended up getting hurt even worse after the attacks continued.

bullshit pussy fucking cowards.

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MIAdragon
04-22-2011, 07:39 PM
http://media.merchantcircle.com/25914978/White%20Knight%20Logo_full.jpeg

no dude, just human.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 07:43 PM
no dude, just human.

bullshit


Criminally charging people for not interfering and risking attack upon themselves by intervening is moronic, and that's what Coffey was advocating.

JASONSAUTO
04-22-2011, 07:43 PM
the people watching and doing nothing to stop it should be charged with something too, especially since the girl ended up getting hurt even worse after the attacks continued.

bullshit pussy fucking cowards.

For sure. No way that's going down around me our pretty much most people I know.
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JASONSAUTO
04-22-2011, 07:49 PM
would anyone mind if a dude came in bustin both those bitches in the mouth to stop the fight?

Nope. especially if it was the cat from the taco place thread with the horizontally striped shirt. Ko' ing bitches and a smaller guy.
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Brock
04-22-2011, 08:02 PM
I wouldn't involve myself in white trash affairs, I'm just there to get a cheeseburger.

Saul Good
04-22-2011, 09:13 PM
bullshit


Criminally charging people for not interfering and risking attack upon themselves by intervening is moronic, and that's what Coffey was advocating.

The cameraman is a criminal. He encouraged them to leave the scene. That is a crime, and he should be arrested.

booger
04-22-2011, 09:23 PM
would anyone mind if a dude came in bustin both those bitches in the mouth to stop the fight?

hell no i wouldn't mind. fuckin cunts want to fight they got to learn how to take a punch sooner or later.

That being said whoever the dude is takes a huge risk of jail time and public/media bombarding for hitting a girl so that choice is on him.

Probably safest to choke a bitch out like dole said or toss em out by their shitty weave or dreadlocks

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 09:27 PM
The cameraman is a criminal. He encouraged them to leave the scene. That is a crime, and he should be arrested.

No, the cameraman is not a criminal, at least not for what you're claiming. I can't vouch for his entire life.

booger
04-22-2011, 09:29 PM
are you serious? do you really expect McDonalds employees to jump in and take the blows? they'd probably get fired if they fought back in any way. I agree that they're cowards but that is actually encouraged in most places.

I know they're fast food employees but common sense should tell them to approach each situation differenty and make a wise judgment call led by the shift supervisor.

Its not a bank robbery in progress and someone trying to play hero. Looks like all the males present were employees and they could have handled throwing out the two girls and even the tranny if they did it before they really stompted her.

It all depends on company policy. If i was the store GM i think it would be rule nmber 1 for shift supervisors to control the store under all circumstances and call the cops to be on the safe side when needed.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 09:37 PM
I know they're fast food employees but common sense should tell them to approach each situation differenty and make a wise judgment call led by the shift supervisor.

Its not a bank robbery in progress and someone trying to play hero. Looks like all the males present were employees and they could have handled throwing out the two girls and even the tranny if they did it before they really stompted her.

It all depends on company policy. If i was the store GM i think it would be rule nmber 1 for shift supervisors to control the store under all circumstances and call the cops to be on the safe side when needed.

I doubt you'll find any company of real size that has a policy demanding physical intervention by its non-security employees in violent situations.

booger
04-22-2011, 09:46 PM
I doubt you'll find any company of real size that has a policy demanding physical intervention by its non-security employees in violent situations.

Corporations no i would highly agree. They probably have a policy in place for every Mcdonalds in the country no matter if it's the size of Baltimore or a 5k population. They probably don't take a look at the cities of high crime and and hire a full time security crew. Maybe they do, i don't know. But that would be bad PR in just certain cities to have security b/c of the people who would bitch it's prejedice in some way. Not to mention a shitty econ. and having essential staff only. Instead they wait for a problem like this and review their policies and more often then not don't change a thing.

As for the dumbshit who was filming this they will treat him with kid gloves and not fire his ass because of the bad PR and loss of business that would cause.

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 09:47 PM
Or the manager should have pulled the shotgun out from under the counter. Yelled, 'They're coming right for us' and blown away the two aggressors.

booger
04-22-2011, 09:51 PM
That manager is a no good pussy. If that was me i would cease the oportunity to let out the rage you know he has inside for putting up with the crap at that location and read those girls the riot act. They have a responsibility to protect the other customers in the store too.

Chocolate Hog
04-22-2011, 09:55 PM
bullshit


Criminally charging people for not interfering and risking attack upon themselves by intervening is moronic, and that's what Coffey was advocating.

Wait a minute though that dumbass camera man told those hippos to flee. Couldn't in be argued that he was an accessory to the crime?

58-4ever
04-22-2011, 09:56 PM
That manager is a no good pussy. If that was me i would cease the oportunity to let out the rage you know he has inside for putting up with the crap at that location and read those girls the riot act. They have a responsibility to protect the other customers in the store too.

As a Manager at McDonalds, he's probably a convicted felon already. I would assume he wants no part of any altercation. But yes, I completely agree with your point.

booger
04-22-2011, 09:59 PM
i may be mistaken but wasn't the camerman an employee?

if that's my store he gets his ass crewed for recording this on his flip phone. If he wasn't going to help calm them down he isn't getting paid to stand there. Pick up a fucking mop and start cleaning up.

JD10367
04-22-2011, 09:59 PM
the people watching and doing nothing to stop it should be charged with something too, especially since the girl ended up getting hurt even worse after the attacks continued.

bullshit pussy ****ing cowards.

This times eleventybillion. That dude in the blue shirt picking stuff up off the floor, as well as the cameraman, both need to be arrested and have THEIR asses beat. When you see it's obviously not a fair fight (two on one, and she was smaller than them), and the victim is in danger of permanent disability or death, man up and get in between them and, yes, if necessary, knock those two bitches out.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 10:00 PM
Corporations no i would highly agree. They probably have a policy in place for every Mcdonalds in the country no matter if it's the size of Baltimore or a 5k population. They probably don't take a look at the cities of high crime and and hire a full time security crew. Maybe they do, i don't know. But that would be bad PR in just certain cities to have security b/c of the people who would bitch it's prejedice in some way. Not to mention a shitty econ. and having essential staff only. Instead they wait for a problem like this and review their policies and more often then not don't change a thing.

As for the dumbshit who was filming this they will treat him with kid gloves and not fire his ass because of the bad PR and loss of business that would cause.

Companies generally have a simple policy: call the police and don't be a hero. People here seem to be ignoring the fact that telling the two attackers to stop didn't get the job done. Just ask granny.

As for the alleged dumbshit, his recording may have helped get the attackers arrested, and his recording will likely help the prosecutor's case.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 10:03 PM
Wait a minute though that dumbass camera man told those hippos to flee. Couldn't in be argued that he was an accessory to the crime?

Only if the prosecutor wanted to look like an idiot. For example:

"Whoever broke into my home. I've called the police, so you'd better get out of here"

It's a pretty standard sort of response when trying to stop an aggressor from continuing with his/her actions.

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 10:05 PM
i may be mistaken but wasn't the camerman an employee?

if that's my store he gets his ass crewed for recording this on his flip phone. If he wasn't going to help calm them down he isn't getting paid to stand there. Pick up a fucking mop and start cleaning up.

I wouldn't be surprised that corporate demands he be fired. Not because he recorded it, which is not inappropriate. You could argue it was one of the more responsible things to do. It gives clear and convincing evidence to the police and prosecute.

Why he should get fired is because he was encouraging them to leave before the police came. That's a pretty big black mark on McDonald's face. If the DA really wanted to stretch the law he could charge him with aiding and abetting. But it would be really hard to convict.

booger
04-22-2011, 10:10 PM
As a Manager at McDonalds, he's probably a convicted felon already. I would assume he wants no part of any altercation. But yes, I completely agree with your point.

Hadn't thought of the felon/probation aspect. Good point.

The big point to me is there is a ton of these situations with young kids and sadly some adults. Too many people in the position of the manager don't cease the opportunity to provide some leadership, tell them how the way they acted is an embarrasement to the human race and to grow the fuck up and leave the store and don't come back until they can act like decent people. Communities need people to step up like that.

Race aside its highly likely these things occur most of the time and involve after hours bars closing and some drunk kids who are in their stupid years anyway. Add on to that the stresses of daily lives of most people who are effected in some way because of this shit economy and the young kids that don't have a job period yet they don't take the time to think that #1 doing this to show off and 2 seeing it on youtube and bragging to everyone who will listen that that was them sure as hell doesn't help them get a job or any respect to the people out there that take chances on some of them to improve their lives.

Chocolate Hog
04-22-2011, 10:19 PM
Only if the prosecutor wanted to look like an idiot. For example:

"Whoever broke into my home. I've called the police, so you'd better get out of here"

It's a pretty standard sort of response when trying to stop an aggressor from continuing with his/her actions.

The video tape/audio clearly demonstrates that there was no attempt of trying to stop the crime and infact you could hear laughter.

booger
04-22-2011, 10:19 PM
Companies generally have a simple policy: call the police and don't be a hero. People here seem to be ignoring the fact that telling the two attackers to stop didn't get the job done. Just ask granny.

As for the alleged dumbshit, his recording may have helped get the attackers arrested, and his recording will likely help the prosecutor's case.

That's why i mentioned it's not a bank robbery. It's two girls 18 and 14 for christ sakes. assuming they let it go just yelling to stop they could have at least stepped in when the excessive beating started.

I'd take that chance to get fired. Be my fucking guest and do it. I saw the tranny for whatever reason not defending herself. Most of the time when you back an animal or human into a corner and act aggressively their instincts take over and they fight back but not this time. So shame on me for trying to prevent brain damage or worse. Go ahead and fire me for that. I find the slimiest lawyer around to fill our pockets with a lawsuit.

booger
04-22-2011, 10:23 PM
I wouldn't be surprised that corporate demands he be fired. Not because he recorded it, which is not inappropriate. You could argue it was one of the more responsible things to do. It gives clear and convincing evidence to the police and prosecute.

Why he should get fired is because he was encouraging them to leave before the police came. That's a pretty big black mark on McDonald's face. If the DA really wanted to stretch the law he could charge him with aiding and abetting. But it would be really hard to convict.

that is the one big plus in all of these stupid assed teens beetings on camera/youtube is that without it most would go unpunished. You are exactley right.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 10:29 PM
That's why i mentioned it's not a bank robbery. It's two girls 18 and 14 for christ sakes. assuming they let it go just yelling to stop they could have at least stepped in when the excessive beating started.

I'd take that chance to get fired. Be my fucking guest and do it. I saw the tranny for whatever reason not defending herself. Most of the time when you back an animal or human into a corner and act aggressively their instincts take over and they fight back but not this time. So shame on me for trying to prevent brain damage or worse. Go ahead and fire me for that. I find the slimiest lawyer around to fill our pockets with a lawsuit.

You're not winning that lawsuit.

JD10367
04-22-2011, 10:29 PM
That's why i mentioned it's not a bank robbery. It's two girls 18 and 14 for christ sakes. assuming they let it go just yelling to stop they could have at least stepped in when the excessive beating started.

I'd take that chance to get fired. Be my ****ing guest and do it. I saw the tranny for whatever reason not defending herself. Most of the time when you back an animal or human into a corner and act aggressively their instincts take over and they fight back but not this time. So shame on me for trying to prevent brain damage or worse. Go ahead and fire me for that. I find the slimiest lawyer around to fill our pockets with a lawsuit.

This. What's more important, your manhood or a fucking minimum-wage crap job? I guarantee, if you stepped in and put a halt to that, and got fired, 10 better companies would be lining up to hire you for having some morals and some backbone.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 10:34 PM
The video tape/audio clearly demonstrates that there was no attempt of trying to stop the crime and infact you could hear laughter.

Multiple people tried to stop the crime, starting at the very beginning of the clip, and "stop" can be heard almost constantly.

JD10367
04-22-2011, 10:36 PM
Multiple people tried to stop the crime, starting at the very beginning of the clip, and "stop" can be heard almost constantly.

When two larger people are victimizing a smaller third person who is obviously not fighting back and obviously getting their ass kicked and obviously in danger of suffering life-altering or life-threatening injury... saying "stop" isn't fucking doing enough. Someone should've "said stop" by punching those bitches in the nose and saying, "Come over here again and you're getting another one."

booger
04-22-2011, 10:37 PM
You're not winning that lawsuit.

Probably not with the money those corporate fucks can afford to string it out. But i'll hire some hungry, up and comer Atty who isn't afraid of his losing the battle but atleast showing causing them a few hemoroids while i move on to a better job with a boss or company with some integrity and the lawyer can go play to worthless news channels and debate the bullshit.

booger
04-22-2011, 10:39 PM
This. What's more important, your manhood or a ****ing minimum-wage crap job? I guarantee, if you stepped in and put a halt to that, and got fired, 10 better companies would be lining up to hire you for having some morals and some backbone.

:thumb:

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 10:40 PM
Probably not with the money those corporate fucks can afford to string it out. But i'll hire some hungry, up and comer Atty who isn't afraid of his losing the battle but atleast showing causing them a few hemoroids while i move on to a better job with a boss or company with some integrity and the lawyer can go play to worthless news channels and debate the bullshit.

You'd be getting fired for violating company policy. Company money is not why you'd lose the case.

booger
04-22-2011, 10:44 PM
You'd be getting fired for violating company policy. Company money is not why you'd lose the case.

you don't get it. i wouldn't give a shit about the lawsuit. They don't want any bad PR and you know damn well news stations would eat that shit up.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 10:46 PM
When two larger people are victimizing a smaller third person who is obviously not fighting back and obviously getting their ass kicked and obviously in danger of suffering life-altering or life-threatening injury... saying "stop" isn't fucking doing enough. Someone should've "said stop" by punching those bitches in the nose and saying, "Come over here again and you're getting another one."

Since we're dealing with a McDonalds in the video at hand:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/04/21/dad-who-split-up-fight-in-mcdonald-s-shot-dead-115875-23075797/

Play the White Knight, if you want to. It's a personal decision. Others may choose another approach, and there's nothing wrong with that.

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 10:47 PM
That's why i mentioned it's not a bank robbery. It's two girls 18 and 14 for christ sakes. assuming they let it go just yelling to stop they could have at least stepped in when the excessive beating started.

I'd take that chance to get fired. Be my fucking guest and do it. I saw the tranny for whatever reason not defending herself. Most of the time when you back an animal or human into a corner and act aggressively their instincts take over and they fight back but not this time. So shame on me for trying to prevent brain damage or worse. Go ahead and fire me for that. I find the slimiest lawyer around to fill our pockets with a lawsuit.

Speaking of lawsuits, while it would be hard to convict the employee of criminal charges that he was helping the assailants escape, it would not be nearly as hard to file a civil negligence suit against mcdonald's. The issue that will likely kill McD's is that the employee encouraged them to escape. He turned from a bystander to a participant then. While the criminal case may be hard, the civil case likely isn't.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 10:50 PM
you don't get it. i wouldn't give a shit about the lawsuit. They don't want any bad PR and you know damn well news stations would eat that shit up.

I do get it. I just know that it doesn't generally work that way. Pizza Hut is an example. Check out some of their gun situations.

booger
04-22-2011, 10:57 PM
Speaking of lawsuits, while it would be hard to convict the employee of criminal charges that he was helping the assailants escape, it would not be nearly as hard to file a civil negligence suit against mcdonald's. The issue that will likely kill McD's is that the employee encouraged them to escape. He turned from a bystander to a participant then. While the criminal case may be hard, the civil case likely isn't.

they got to start doing something about these incidents. Something to draw some real debate on the subject. See who wants to go the PC route and see who wants to look at these fools, regardless of their race, and point out that if these punks are the future of this country like we say about all young people, the future don't look to bright in that regard.

How about taking all these young kids and into early adulthood and sticking their asses in a jail(for the lack of a better word) that consists of education, job core, daily chores and responsibilities and an absolute must of powerwashing the pig pens at Hog farmers place, since they obviously aren't learning those values from their parents.

stevieray
04-22-2011, 11:01 PM
I think it reflects how we're becoming desensitized to violence and/or unwilling to stand up and keep a stronghold of the standard of right and wrong.

booger
04-22-2011, 11:03 PM
I do get it. I just know that it doesn't generally work that way. Pizza Hut is an example. Check out some of their gun situations.

I dont want to argue about lawsuits because honestly i don't know a darn thing about them.

It's another example of cutbacks and lack of quality training. They can't use the excuse of lack of quality candidates out their becuase there are plenty of folks that are bright and overqualified that will work these types of jobs just to put food on the table.

They take chances on having less staff per shift in all types of businesses. The bottom line is the profit makes the business stay afloat but the cutbacks causes piss poor customer service and in some cases safety issues plus whatever others.

It's tough but they have to at least try and find a better balance.

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 11:06 PM
See if mcdonalds wanted to stop this kind of thing they'd have the emergency dogfight kit ready to go. In the event of a fight breaking out in the store you set up the kit in the middle and hold an impromptu dog fight. Everyone should stop what they are doing and immediately start gambling on the dogs. By the time the dog fight is over the cops should be there.

MIAdragon
04-22-2011, 11:08 PM
I think it reflects how we're becoming desensitized to violence and/or unwilling to stand up and keep a stronghold of the standard of right and wrong.

How sad is that.

RedNFeisty
04-22-2011, 11:08 PM
bullshit


Criminally charging people for not interfering and risking attack upon themselves by intervening is moronic, and that's what Coffey was advocating.

IMO, Coffey is right. As a human, it is our obligation to help the weaker. Doctors, Fire Fighters, and the like are obligated to stop at an accident to help, people should be obligated to help their fellow man.

If you are a bystander and allow a crime to take place, you are accessory to the fact. You allowed the crime to take place and did nothing to stop the crime. If the state wishes, they could possibly press charges against the camera man and the other bystanders of laughter and egging it on, along with being an accessory to the fact.

Makes me wonder to what degree it would have had to of gotten to, before some pussies would have stepped in to help??

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 11:09 PM
I dont want to argue about lawsuits because honestly i don't know a darn thing about them.

It's another example of cutbacks and lack of quality training. They can't use the excuse of lack of quality candidates out their becuase there are plenty of folks that are bright and overqualified that will work these types of jobs just to put food on the table.

They take chances on having less staff per shift in all types of businesses. The bottom line is the profit makes the business stay afloat but the cutbacks causes piss poor customer service and in some cases safety issues plus whatever others.

It's tough but they have to at least try and find a better balance.

Unless you're trying to make the claim that every business in the country needs to have physical security staff on the grounds for every hour the business is open, your argument makes no sense.

If you are trying to make that claim, you're drunk.

JASONSAUTO
04-22-2011, 11:13 PM
Since we're dealing with a McDonalds in the video at hand:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/04/21/dad-who-split-up-fight-in-mcdonald-s-shot-dead-115875-23075797/

Play the White Knight, if you want to. It's a personal decision. Others may choose another approach, and there's nothing wrong with that.


That's the chance you take.....
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Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 11:14 PM
IMO, Coffey is right. As a human, it is our obligation to help the weaker. Doctors, Fire Fighters, and the like are obligated to stop at an accident to help, people should be obligated to help their fellow man.

If you are a bystander and allow a crime to take place, you are accessory to the fact. You allowed the crime to take place and did nothing to stop the crime. If the state wishes, they could possibly press charges against the camera man and the other bystanders of laughter and egging it on, along with being an accessory to the fact.

Makes me wonder to what degree it would have had to of gotten to, before some pussies would have stepped in to help??


Either you typed that second paragraph poorly, or you have no idea what you're talking about.

booger
04-22-2011, 11:17 PM
I think it reflects how we're becoming desensitized to violence and/or unwilling to stand up and keep a stronghold of the standard of right and wrong.

One of the neat quotes i remember is from Remember the Titans (pretty sure that's the one)

One of the players tells the coach that attitude reflects leadership.


We have a lack of quality leaders in all walks of life in this country that don't give a piss about legacy or preservation of the things that make this country great.

If the coach is a whiney excuse making pissant the team has no chance.

JASONSAUTO
04-22-2011, 11:17 PM
IMO, Coffey is right. As a human, it is our obligation to help the weaker. Doctors, Fire Fighters, and the like are obligated to stop at an accident to help, people should be obligated to help their fellow man.

If you are a bystander and allow a crime to take place, you are accessory to the fact. You allowed the crime to take place and did nothing to stop the crime. If the state wishes, they could possibly press charges against the camera man and the other bystanders of laughter and egging it on, along with being an accessory to the fact.

Makes me wonder to what degree it would have had to of gotten to, before some pussies would have stepped in to help??
Would have never gotten close to the point it did had just about any person I would call a friend have been there.
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RedNFeisty
04-22-2011, 11:19 PM
Since we're dealing with a McDonalds in the video at hand:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/04/21/dad-who-split-up-fight-in-mcdonald-s-shot-dead-115875-23075797/

Play the White Knight, if you want to. It's a personal decision. Others may choose another approach, and there's nothing wrong with that.

So, the solution is to mind your own business and pray that one day when your daughter is being kicked and punched by two girls into convolutions, your daughter is capable/strong enough to not die because no one stepped in to help her??

Granted, the beating the girl in this video took was nothing. But, what if it was a serious life threatening fight? Would you still just stand there and watch? Okay, so you would call the police, but what about the time it takes them to get there? Just let the person keep getting beaten? I doubt you would turn and walk away, unless you had children with you; so what would you do??

RedNFeisty
04-22-2011, 11:22 PM
Either you typed that second paragraph poorly, or you have no idea what you're talking about.

I may have typed it poorly, not using the correct terms, but the point still remains. If there are witness to a crime, that do nothing to prevent the crime, they can be charged with doing nothing.

CrazyPhuD
04-22-2011, 11:23 PM
IMO, Coffey is right. As a human, it is our obligation to help the weaker. Doctors, Fire Fighters, and the like are obligated to stop at an accident to help, people should be obligated to help their fellow man.

If you are a bystander and allow a crime to take place, you are accessory to the fact. You allowed the crime to take place and did nothing to stop the crime. If the state wishes, they could possibly press charges against the camera man and the other bystanders of laughter and egging it on, along with being an accessory to the fact.

Makes me wonder to what degree it would have had to of gotten to, before some pussies would have stepped in to help??

So here's the 5 second rebuttal to that. The state will never charge you for not acting for 1 simple reason. While you may have a responsibility to your fellow man, the situation is completely unknown. You can jump into it and end up having all parties turn on you. Resulting in you getting beat, stabbed or shot. You have a greater responsibility to your own family and that involves protecting yourself in unknown situations.

Most corporations have policies preventing employees from getting involved for two reasons. First if the the employee gets hurt then the company is liable. Second if the criminal gets hurt by the employee then it is likely also the company that is liable. In short it's a losing proposition to company to get involved. Call the cops and let them handle it that's what they are for.

For instance walmart fired all the employees involved for taking a gun away from a shoplifter for violating company policy to not get involved. It might have worked out for them that time but it could end tragically in the future.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/244010/28/Walmart-employees-fired-after-stopping-robbery

RedNFeisty
04-22-2011, 11:24 PM
Would have never gotten close to the point it did had just about any person I would call a friend have been there.
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Same here, the two girls would never have made it to the girl the third time. There would have been no dragging her by her hair through the store.

Just Passin' By
04-22-2011, 11:27 PM
I may have typed it poorly, not using the correct terms, but the point still remains. If there are witness to a crime, that do nothing to prevent the crime, they can be charged with doing nothing.

What you are referring to is the duty to act. Rather than getting into this with you, let me just refer you to something, and leave it at that:

http://theemtspot.com/2009/06/23/what-is-the-duty-to-act/

RedNFeisty
04-22-2011, 11:29 PM
So here's the 5 second rebuttal to that. The state will never charge you for not acting for 1 simple reason. While you may have a responsibility to your fellow man, the situation is completely unknown. You can jump into it and end up having all parties turn on you. Resulting in you getting beat, stabbed or shot. You have a greater responsibility to your own family and that involves protecting yourself in unknown situations.

Most corporations have policies preventing employees from getting involved for two reasons. First if the the employee gets hurt then the company is liable. Second if the criminal gets hurt by the employee then it is likely also the company that is liable. In short it's a losing proposition to company to get involved. Call the cops and let them handle it that's what they are for.

For instance walmart fired all the employees involved for taking a gun away from a shoplifter for violating company policy to not get involved. It might have worked out for them that time but it could end tragically in the future.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/244010/28/Walmart-employees-fired-after-stopping-robbery

Could it be due to the fact these bystanders are employees that they fit into the loop hole? I'm not going to spend the time looking up facts and lawsuits, but hasn't it been pushed to where bystanders who do nothing in violent crimes such as rape and torture are charged with doing nothing?

booger
04-22-2011, 11:29 PM
Unless you're trying to make the claim that every business in the country needs to have physical security staff on the grounds for every hour the business is open, your argument makes no sense.

If you are trying to make that claim, you're drunk.

Good Grief

all you want to do is argue. Businesses take risk with the cutbacks they have made. I'll repeat that i realize they have to for the bottom line profit margin that keeps things going. Retail has gone to shit since the cutbacks after 9/11. Security in places like Baltimore you would think would be under control.

Re read the quote you quoted or don't i could give a shit less. I don't have all the answers or maybe even any that make a lick of sense.

I just think it's pathetic how people act and treat each other. And i think it's magnified because of no jobs, the economy, the length of time of this recession/depression, and all the worries/anxieties that roll down hill off the parents backs on to the kids.

But i bet it gets 50k hits on youtube.:thumb:

Saccopoo
04-23-2011, 02:51 AM
Just to continue the discussion, how many of you would be happy about some guy in drag hanging out in the girls bathroom checking out your 14 year old daughter?

DenverChief
04-23-2011, 03:32 AM
Just to continue the discussion, how many of you would be happy about some guy in drag hanging out in the girls bathroom checking out your 14 year old daughter?

1st off if a guy dresses like a girl he is interested in guys...you should be worried about your son...

Rausch
04-23-2011, 07:07 AM
IMO, Coffey is right. As a human, it is our obligation to help the weaker. Doctors, Fire Fighters, and the like are obligated to stop at an accident to help, people should be obligated to help their fellow man.

If you are a bystander and allow a crime to take place, you are accessory to the fact. You allowed the crime to take place and did nothing to stop the crime. If the state wishes, they could possibly press charges against the camera man and the other bystanders of laughter and egging it on, along with being an accessory to the fact.

I would. And I'd sue McD's for allowing it. The Manager could have forced EVERYONE out of the store after telling another employee to call the cops. Hell, you could take the beaten girl behind the counter for protection.

The manager was a gutless POS in my book...

Bane
04-23-2011, 07:12 AM
I don't condone a man putting his hands on a woman,but I would have kicked both of those bitches in the face to stop that shit.

baitism
04-23-2011, 07:30 AM
Yup, thought so.

MIAdragon
04-23-2011, 07:32 AM
I would. And I'd sue McD's for allowing it. The Manager could have forced EVERYONE out of the store after telling another employee to call the cops. Hell, you could take the beaten girl behind the counter for protection.

The manager was a gutless POS in my book...

yup, escort the animals out lock the doors call the cops. Its not rocket science.

MIAdragon
04-23-2011, 07:34 AM
Just to continue the discussion, how many of you would be happy about some guy in drag hanging out in the girls bathroom checking out your 14 year old daughter?

We have more than our share down here in Miami. (both animals and Drag Queens) If the guy is in there to do his bizz and not showing his wank or being nasty then I would have no problem with it. There is no need to go all Serengeti on his ass.

RedNeckRaider
04-23-2011, 07:37 AM
yup, escort the animals out lock the doors call the cops. Its not rocket science.

The fact the cops were not called immediately is just silly~

MIAdragon
04-23-2011, 07:42 AM
The fact the cops were not called immediately is just silly~

Apparently if you have any interaction with the police you are what they call a "snitch". Silly indeed.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-23-2011, 09:53 AM
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LMAO I need to feed my family!

Chiefaholic
04-23-2011, 10:05 AM
I think it reflects how we're becoming desensitized to violence and/or unwilling to stand up and keep a stronghold of the standard of right and wrong.
:thumb:

Rausch
04-23-2011, 10:06 AM
yup, escort the animals out lock the doors call the cops. Its not rocket science.

This.

RedNeckRaider
04-23-2011, 10:48 AM
Apparently if you have any interaction with the police you are what they call a "snitch". Silly indeed.

Really depends, in some situation that can be true. In a situation where two chicks and an it are involved I call the cops and then do my best to keep them apart~

Chiefs Pantalones
04-23-2011, 10:53 AM
Really depends, in some situation that can be true. In a situation where two chicks and an it are involved I call the cops and then do my best to keep them apart~

There's no such thing as a snitch in the world of people in their right minds. Only to the homie rapper world is there such thing as a snitch. In my world and in the world of my loved ones, it's called doing what's right.

RedNeckRaider
04-23-2011, 10:59 AM
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LMAO I need to feed my family!

Poor man and poor lady cannot feed their families because the fast food joint is closed. There should be laws in place to protect these victims~

RedNeckRaider
04-23-2011, 11:04 AM
There's no such thing as a snitch in the world of people in their right minds. Only to the homie rapper world is there such thing as a snitch. In my world and in the world of my loved ones, it's called doing what's right.

I understand what you are saying and I agree. However in my world if a fair scuff breaks out there is no reason to call the cops. I have been in quite a few scrapes and took 2nd place it a couple and I would have never even dreamed of calling the cops and would have been pissed if someone did. Of course if your your loved one are in harms way you make the call~

Chiefs Pantalones
04-23-2011, 11:11 AM
I understand what you are saying and I agree. However in my world if a fair scuff breaks out there is no reason to call the cops. I have been in quite a few scrapes and took 2nd place it a couple and I would have never even dreamed of calling the cops and would have been pissed if someone did. Of course if your your loved one are in harms way you make the call~

How do you know it's going to end in a fair scuff though? To protect those you love IMO call the cops right away. You don't know if it's going to be fair, people snap. Why get into a fight in the first place, I say don't lower yourself to the thug scum that's instigating.

RedNeckRaider
04-23-2011, 11:16 AM
How do you know it's going to end in a fair scuff though? To protect those you love IMO call the cops right away. You don't know if it's going to be fair, people snap. Why get into a fight in the first place, I say don't lower yourself to the thug scum that's instigating.

I was a slow learner on that ;) anyway where I grew up calling the police was not widely done less emergency~

Baconeater
04-23-2011, 11:35 AM
IMO, Coffey is right. As a human, it is our obligation to help the weaker. Doctors, Fire Fighters, and the like are obligated to stop at an accident to help, people should be obligated to help their fellow man.

If you are a bystander and allow a crime to take place, you are accessory to the fact. You allowed the crime to take place and did nothing to stop the crime. If the state wishes, they could possibly press charges against the camera man and the other bystanders of laughter and egging it on, along with being an accessory to the fact.

Makes me wonder to what degree it would have had to of gotten to, before some pussies would have stepped in to help??
Sorry, but the only obligation I have in life is to come home to my family in one piece.

Gary
04-23-2011, 12:24 PM
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8pyW6w5B7Aw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LMAO I need to feed my family!

"We've been looking forward to this!". LMAO

suzzer99
04-23-2011, 01:13 PM
Sorry, but the only obligation I have in life is to come home to my family in one piece.

Hey I guess that works for concentration camp guards too!

Baconeater
04-23-2011, 01:18 PM
Hey I guess that works for concentration camp guards too!
Yes, because that is totally relevant to the situation here!

Brock
04-23-2011, 01:52 PM
Yes, because that is totally relevant to the situation here!

YOU'RE THE SAME AS HITLER OMGZ

ChiefsandO'sfan
04-23-2011, 03:17 PM
Worker Who Filmed Beating ‘No Longer Employed’ At McDonald’s
April 23, 2011 4:52 PM

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ROSEDALE, Md. (AP/WJZ) — The owner of a McDonald’s franchise in Maryland where a woman was badly beaten says he’s investigating the response of his employees after a video of the assault surfaced online.

Mitchell McPherson said in a statement Saturday that he was shocked and disturbed by the beating inside the Rosedale
restaurant. The company has also issued a statement condemning the beating. McPherson says the employee who took the video “is no longer employed with my organization.” Other workers will be disciplined as warranted.

The video posted online shows a woman being attacked repeatedly by two people while an employee tries to intervene. At one point the suspects pull the victim to the floor by her hair, even ripping off a wig. They drag her into the main dining room. Then after a powerful blow to the head, the victim appears to have a violent seizure, and as she bleeds from the mouth, spectators warn the attackers to flee before cops arrive.

The victim was taken to Franklin Square Hospital for treatment.

The police report reveals the victim told police she did not know her attackers. It also says when police caught up with the suspects, they admitted to getting in a fight with a woman over using the bathroom.

The State’s Attorney’s office is investigating whether the attack was racially or gender motivated to determine if other charges will result.

Baltimore County police say a 14-year-old girl has been charged as a juvenile and charges were pending as of Friday against an 18-year-old woman.

Just Passin' By
04-23-2011, 03:35 PM
Maryland is an "at-will" state, so the employee is likely out of luck.

Just Passin' By
04-23-2011, 03:48 PM
The police report identifies the victim as 22-year-old Chrissy Lee Polis, who appears identical to Christopher Lee Polis, whose rap sheet includes convictions for disorderly conduct, property destruction, and prostitution, according to court records. The civil rights group Equality Maryland has identified the McDonald’s victim as a transgender woman.

Polis told police that she was walking to the restaurant’s bathroom when she “got into a verbal argument with two black females” who “began punching her in the face with their fists and pulling her hair.” A female bystander told cops that when she tried to break up the fight, the suspects punched her in the face, which “caused her to become disoriented.” Police noted that the woman, who declined medical treatment, had “redness around her right eye which is consistent with someone punching her in the face.”

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128

crazycoffey
04-23-2011, 04:11 PM
Sorry, but the only obligation I have in life is to come home to my family in one piece.


I can respect that, as it's a general rule in my life as well. However, in this situation, stepping in between two teenage girls that are kicking another human in the face repeatedly is not like stepping in between a weapons assault or car jacking. I think it's reasonable to assume that a grown man would suffer little to no injury stepping in to protect the human being on the ground. Let alone if one or two others of the half a dozen people watching helped. Or if anyone even attempted to do anything like call the police.

I'd be embarrassed if I didn't do anything and I watched someone's grandmother do more to stop the fight than anyone else in the restaurant. Embarrassed.

MIAdragon
04-23-2011, 04:12 PM
I can respect that, as it's a general rule in my life as well. However, in this situation, stepping in between two teenage girls that are kicking another human in the face repeatedly is not like stepping in between a weapons assault or car jacking. I think it's reasonable to assume that a grown man would suffer little to no injury stepping in to protect the human being on the ground. Let alone if one or two others of the half a dozen people watching helped. Or if anyone even attempted to do anything like call the police.

I'd be embarrassed if I didn't do anything and I watched someone's grandmother do more to stop the fight than anyone else in the restaurant. Embarrassed.

Im with ya man.

Chief Roundup
04-23-2011, 04:31 PM
I wonder why these are always in fast food joints? I've never seen a video of this happening at a nice steak joint.

different class of people.

Baconeater
04-23-2011, 06:32 PM
I can respect that, as it's a general rule in my life as well. However, in this situation, stepping in between two teenage girls that are kicking another human in the face repeatedly is not like stepping in between a weapons assault or car jacking. I think it's reasonable to assume that a grown man would suffer little to no injury stepping in to protect the human being on the ground. Let alone if one or two others of the half a dozen people watching helped. Or if anyone even attempted to do anything like call the police.

I'd be embarrassed if I didn't do anything and I watched someone's grandmother do more to stop the fight than anyone else in the restaurant. Embarrassed.
It may be reasonable to assume that, but it's also reasonable to assume that the second you step into it, a bunch of the attackers' "homies" might roll into the restaurant and you get the shit beat out of you, or worse. It's not uncommon for silly altercations like this to escalate into serious violence. Then you're risking hospital bills, missing work and not being able to take care of your own family. All over some freak who wouldn't leave the bathroom when asked.

Nope, I'm grabbing my Big Mac and getting the fuck out.

CrazyPhuD
04-23-2011, 06:42 PM
I can respect that, as it's a general rule in my life as well. However, in this situation, stepping in between two teenage girls that are kicking another human in the face repeatedly is not like stepping in between a weapons assault or car jacking. I think it's reasonable to assume that a grown man would suffer little to no injury stepping in to protect the human being on the ground. Let alone if one or two others of the half a dozen people watching helped. Or if anyone even attempted to do anything like call the police.

I'd be embarrassed if I didn't do anything and I watched someone's grandmother do more to stop the fight than anyone else in the restaurant. Embarrassed.

So you're saying if you were in a McDonalds in East St Louis you would feel totally comfortable stepping in a stopping a fight between two black women and a third women?

Maybe in the burbs or rural areas but in cities, sorry you never know who has a knife or a gun on them. You think because they are women they aren't carrying? You go from a situation where they have the upper hand(hence no need for a weapon) to one where they may now be defensive. They pull a weapon and all of a sudden the situation changes radically.

Fishpicker
04-23-2011, 08:07 PM
Worker Who Filmed Beating ‘No Longer Employed’ At McDonald’s
April 23, 2011 4:52 PM

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ROSEDALE, Md. (AP/WJZ) — The owner of a McDonald’s franchise in Maryland where a woman was badly beaten says he’s investigating the response of his employees after a video of the assault surfaced online.

Mitchell McPherson said in a statement Saturday that he was shocked and disturbed by the beating inside the Rosedale
restaurant. The company has also issued a statement condemning the beating. McPherson says the employee who took the video “is no longer employed with my organization.” Other workers will be disciplined as warranted.

The video posted online shows a woman being attacked repeatedly by two people while an employee tries to intervene. At one point the suspects pull the victim to the floor by her hair, even ripping off a wig. They drag her into the main dining room. Then after a powerful blow to the head, the victim appears to have a violent seizure, and as she bleeds from the mouth, spectators warn the attackers to flee before cops arrive.

The victim was taken to Franklin Square Hospital for treatment.

The police report reveals the victim told police she did not know her attackers. It also says when police caught up with the suspects, they admitted to getting in a fight with a woman over using the bathroom.

The State’s Attorney’s office is investigating whether the attack was racially or gender motivated to determine if other charges will result.

Baltimore County police say a 14-year-old girl has been charged as a juvenile and charges were pending as of Friday against an 18-year-old woman.

that's messed up. McDonalds is crazy to fire employees for not getting involved. there is no duty to act for a minimum wage fry cook. If the guy had got involved and ended up going to the hospital because the chicks turned on him, he would be fired then too.

JASONSAUTO
04-23-2011, 08:08 PM
that's messed up. McDonalds is crazy to fire employees for not getting involved. there is no duty to act for a minimum wage fry cook. If the guy had got involved and ended up going to the hospital because the chicks turned on him, he would be fired then too. he did get involved when he told the girls to run before the cops showed.
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Fishpicker
04-23-2011, 08:12 PM
I can respect that, as it's a general rule in my life as well. However, in this situation, stepping in between two teenage girls that are kicking another human in the face repeatedly is not like stepping in between a weapons assault or car jacking. I think it's reasonable to assume that a grown man would suffer little to no injury stepping in to protect the human being on the ground. Let alone if one or two others of the half a dozen people watching helped. Or if anyone even attempted to do anything like call the police.

I'd be embarrassed if I didn't do anything and I watched someone's grandmother do more to stop the fight than anyone else in the restaurant. Embarrassed.

Bullshit. who was the victim? a grown man. you turn your back on those chicks for one second and they're going to rake your eyes, tap your sack, or do something to upend you. and if that happens its like falling in a pig pen.

Fishpicker
04-23-2011, 08:14 PM
he did get involved when he told the girls to run before the cops showed.
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and he effectively stopped the attack in doing so.

JASONSAUTO
04-23-2011, 08:15 PM
and he effectively stopped the attack in doing so.

Imo the old lady had the most to do with stopping the attack. Those girls didn't want to fuck with anyone that would actually stand up to them both.

They werent near as bad once she started in.
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Fishpicker
04-23-2011, 08:19 PM
did they or did they not proceed to stomp the dude on the ground after the older lady intervened?

JASONSAUTO
04-23-2011, 08:21 PM
did they or did they not proceed to stomp the dude on the ground after the older lady intervened?

They did. But they werent near as bad as they started out.

You are crazy if you think that dude did the right thing. Period
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Fishpicker
04-23-2011, 08:27 PM
its subjective. i think its wrong that he posted the video online but the actual video preserved evidence that the police can use.

you're crazy for trying to imply that these stomps are more mild than those stomps.

JASONSAUTO
04-23-2011, 08:30 PM
its subjective. i think its wrong that he posted the video online but the actual video preserved evidence that the police can use.

you're crazy for trying to imply that these stomps are more mild than those stomps.
Really?
so him cheering them on and filming it wasn't getting involved either.


And the girls weren't as bad as they were once the old lady stepped in.
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Fishpicker
04-23-2011, 08:33 PM
Really?
so him cheering them on and filming it wasn't getting involved either.


And the girls weren't as bad as they were once the old lady stepped in.
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a) how did he cheer them on?

b) you already posted that twice. i didn't miss it.

Fishpicker
04-23-2011, 08:46 PM
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ChiefsandO'sfan
04-23-2011, 08:48 PM
News
Victim Says McDonald’s Beating Was A Hate Crime
April 23, 2011 9:57 PM

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ROSEDALE, Md. (WJZ) –The savage McDonald’s beating seen by millions on the internet. The victim says the attack was definitely a hate crime.

Weijia Jiang is following the new public outcry to the brutal video.

Dragged to the floor by her hair, repeatedly kicked and punched, that’s what happened to 22-year-old Chrissy Polis inside a McDonald’s restaurant on Kenwood Avenue in Rosedale.

For the first time since the brutal beating, Polis is speaking out. She tells WJZ‘s media partner Baltimore Sun it was a hate crime.

Polis, who is transgendered, says her attackers called her a dude when she tried to go to the women’s bathroom and spit in her face before getting physical.

The video quickly went viral, sparking nationwide outrage.

“All of us are human beings,” said Sandy Rawls, Trans-United director. “We come from the same universe. For people to say it’s okay to beat you down because you’re trying to get French fries or go to the bathroom is deadly wrong.”


Rawls is the director of Trans-United, one of many transgendered support groups calling for severe action against the 14- and 18-year-old suspects.

They’re also demanding answers from McDonald’s. The franchise owner says he fired the on-duty employee who was taking the cell phone video, and is considering discipline for the others who were working that night.

“Where’s the managers? Where’s everyone at? You don’t just let someone get beat up like that,” said Linda Bell, of Rosedale.

“They should get fired. That’s setting a bad example,” said Sebastian Johnson, of Rosedale.

Though one worker is seen trying to break up the fight, most are standing by, even heard laughing.

It was a customer who eventually stepped in right before Polis appears to have a violent seizure.

Polis tells the Sun she’s now afraid to leave the house.

Outreach groups for the transgendered community are planning a rally in front of the Rosedale McDonald’s for Monday night at 7 p.m., hoping to send the message that what happened inside is unacceptable.

Click here to view the video.

(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Baconeater
04-23-2011, 09:09 PM
Oh JFC, if you have a wang, you don't belong in the women's bathroom.

KcMizzou
04-23-2011, 09:15 PM
JFC

Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

HMc
04-23-2011, 09:23 PM
Oh JFC, if you have a wang, you don't belong in the women's bathroom.

you'd prefer the dude loving tranny was taking a leak next to you at the urinal, would you?

Baconeater
04-23-2011, 09:29 PM
you'd prefer the dude loving tranny was taking a leak next to you at the urinal, would you?
Yeah mate, that's exactly what I meant by that.

HMc
04-23-2011, 09:34 PM
I can't see an issue with males that dress and identify as women going to the women's bathroom. Female bathrooms are all cubicles, for one thing.

Baconeater
04-23-2011, 10:01 PM
I can't see an issue with males that dress and identify as women going to the women's bathroom. Female bathrooms are all cubicles, for one thing.
And you should totally be able to make that call for all women.

Frazod
04-23-2011, 10:03 PM
I can't see an issue with males that dress and identify as women going to the women's bathroom. Female bathrooms are all cubicles, for one thing.

So I guess this means no one's kicked your ass for it yet?

Fishpicker
04-23-2011, 10:07 PM
thats it... someones gotta step in to save HMc from a beatdown. knock it off you mean girls

ClevelandBronco
04-23-2011, 10:30 PM
I think it all started when a CP member saw her and said "I'd hit it." After that, it was all just a series of misunderstandings.

HMc
04-23-2011, 11:06 PM
And you should totally be able to make that call for all women.

Because I suggested I should have the power to legislate on that issue, didn't I? It wasn't just my opinion or anything.

If you're suggesting it be solely based on which bits you've got, where should the hermaphrodites go? Perhaps you think they should use the disabled toilet? Perhaps all the queers and trannies should use the disabled toilet?

HMc
04-23-2011, 11:09 PM
So I guess this means no one's kicked your ass for it yet?

Haven't you got some filing to do, office bitch?

crazycoffey
04-23-2011, 11:35 PM
So you're saying if you were in a McDonalds in East St Louis you would feel totally comfortable stepping in a stopping a fight between two black women and a third women?

Maybe in the burbs or rural areas but in cities, sorry you never know who has a knife or a gun on them. You think because they are women they aren't carrying? You go from a situation where they have the upper hand(hence no need for a weapon) to one where they may now be defensive. They pull a weapon and all of a sudden the situation changes radically.

if I'm watching that scenerio play out like it did in the video, yes. anywhere, everytime. I'd call the cops and go help. If I feel too threatened to overtly act in a similiar situation, with more actors or different actors, I'll at the very least call the cops and be an excellent witness.

Jayhawkerman2001
04-24-2011, 01:24 AM
i would have jumped in and beat those 2 chicks asses!!! thats fucking bullshit

Frazod
04-24-2011, 02:14 AM
Haven't you got some filing to do, office bitch?

No, my secretary takes care of that.

And I'm not the one sucking off the shemales, Matilda.

DenverChief
04-24-2011, 04:32 AM
So you're saying if you were in a McDonalds in East St Louis you would feel totally comfortable stepping in a stopping a fight between two black women and a third women?


Yup cause if it got "so bad" I couldn't "defend myself" with my hands someone would end up with a few more holes in their body than when we started.

DenverChief
04-24-2011, 04:38 AM
if I'm watching that scenerio play out like it did in the video, yes. anywhere, everytime. I'd call the cops and go help. If I feel too threatened to overtly act in a similiar situation, with more actors or different actors, I'll at the very least call the cops and be an excellent witness.

IDK about MO but in CO if that situation escalated to the point where an average citizen felt in fear of their lives or the lives of a third party they could use deadly force as a carrier of an "open" or concealed firearm.

BTW good ta see ya :)

HMc
04-24-2011, 05:23 AM
No, my secretary takes care of that.

And I'm not the one sucking off the shemales, Matilda.

It must be nice having a secretary that's just as legally qualified as yourself.

As for the shemales, it ain't me that wants them in the fellas toilets, dipshit.

You should probably have a real lawyer check your posts before you hit submit.

Frazod
04-24-2011, 09:42 AM
It must be nice having a secretary that's just as legally qualified as yourself.

As for the shemales, it ain't me that wants them in the fellas toilets, dipshit.

You should probably have a real lawyer check your posts before you hit submit.

This whole legal thing seems a bit beyond your level of comprehension. Perhaps you should stick to cleaning toilets.

And regardless of whether or not a man wears pants, or a dress, or a chicken suit, and regardless of who or what he fucks, if he's got a dick, he's a man, at least technically (I assume you fall into this category), and if you can't understand why a woman might have a problem with a man taking care of business in the ladies room, well, I guess you're an even bigger idiot than I previously thought.

52decleetzu
04-24-2011, 11:28 AM
Oh JFC, if you have a wang, you don't belong in the women's bathroom.

JFC, maybe if you don't know the definition of transgender or what this person actually was you shouldn't be posting.

For you all the 10 other people in this thread who seem to think this was a crossdressing MAN, it was not. It was a man who had a full sex change, does not have a penis and has a vagina and is now a woman.

There is your sex ed class for the day.

Coyote Kev
04-24-2011, 11:31 AM
Just put a urinal up in the ladies, with a screen in front of it.....................problem solved.

DaFace
04-24-2011, 11:34 AM
JFC, maybe if you don't know the definition of transgender or what this person actually was you shouldn't be posting.

For you all the 10 other people in this thread who seem to think this was a crossdressing MAN, it was not. It was a man who had a full sex change, does not have a penis and has a vagina and is now a woman.

There is your sex ed class for the day.

For the record, the definition of "transgender" varies widely. It DOES NOT necessarily mean that a sex change operation has been completed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender

The term transgender (TG) was popularised in the 1970s[6] (but implied in the 1960s[7][8]) describing people who wanted to live cross-gender without sex reassignment surgery.[9] In the 1980s the term was expanded to an umbrella term,[10] and became popular as a means of uniting all those whose gender identity did not mesh with their gender assigned at birth.[11]
In the 1990s, the term took on a political dimension[12][13] as an alliance covering all who have at some point not conformed to gender norms, and the term became used to question the validity of those norms[14] or pursue equal rights and anti-discrimination legislation,[15][16] leading to its widespread usage in the media, academic world and law.[17] The term continues to evolve.

Valiant
04-24-2011, 11:36 AM
JFC, maybe if you don't know the definition of transgender or what this person actually was you shouldn't be posting.

For you all the 10 other people in this thread who seem to think this was a crossdressing MAN, it was not. It was a man who had a full sex change, does not have a penis and has a vagina and is now a woman.

There is your sex ed class for the day.

Did they say he was post op??

52decleetzu
04-24-2011, 11:39 AM
Did they say he was post op??

Yes.

Legally a woman with all the parts.

Hence the headline.......

WOMAN beaten in McDonald's restaurant.

Coyote Kev
04-24-2011, 11:40 AM
Ooooooooo thates jus gotta hurt aint it ?

DaFace
04-24-2011, 11:41 AM
Yes.

Legally a woman with all the parts.

Hence the headline.......

WOMAN beaten in McDonald's restaurant.

At the time the headline was written, no one even knew that there was a gender identity question. I seriously doubt the reporter ran into the McDonalds and dropped the person's drawers to check.

If you can find someplace that specifically says "person with no penis beaten," you might have a point. Until then, you're simply guessing.

DaFace
04-24-2011, 11:46 AM
P.S. I'd love to know in what universe a newspaper headline can be used as evidence of a legal definition.

Coyote Kev
04-24-2011, 11:46 AM
At the time the headline was written, no one even knew that there was a gender identity question. I seriously doubt the reporter ran into the McDonalds and dropped the person's drawers to check.

If you can find someplace that specifically says "person with no penis beaten," you might have a point. Until then, you're simply guessing.


An iffin he had run in pulled down hur draws..........." Godam yew need a quarter pounder t' hold agenst thate

:hmmm: "

T-post Tom
04-24-2011, 12:28 PM
I wonder why these are always in fast food joints? I've never seen a video of this happening at a nice steak joint.

It happens. I saw these three guys putting the beat down on a guy in a steakhouse just a month or so ago.


http://www.daemonstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/men-of-a-certain-age.jpg

T-post Tom
04-24-2011, 01:09 PM
A friend has a small family business in a rough area. He put a loud, obnoxious alarm in the store. Shit starts, he hits the alarm & the low-brow troublemakers hit the bricks instantly. Especially when he starts yelling "The cops are here! The cops are here!" I know that he's done it at least twice and it worked perfectly both times. And that is fortunate for the perps because he keeps a nasty little shotgun under the counter, just in case. (As far as I know, he's never had to point it at anyone.)

Coyote Kev
04-24-2011, 01:24 PM
Weeeeeel he'd av t' point at me thur once. Them sawn-offs are terribly fierce.

Coyote Kev
04-24-2011, 02:23 PM
I aint sayin yew shud hav' actually dun anythin..........exceptin................. if yew were carryin a Colt............................then it was yaw public duty t' fill um wi holes.

;)

Coyote Kev
04-24-2011, 02:26 PM
I aint sayin yew shud hav' actually dun anythin..........exceptin................. if yew were carryin a Colt............................then it was yaw public duty t' fill um wi holes.

;)


Thate was meant t' relate t' thur steakhouse comparison. The shurriffs gone done corrected me, as they surely shud. Thaink Yew. Mah blood wasa boilin.

Easy 6
04-24-2011, 02:35 PM
Kev, i hope that shtick has about run its course.

burt
04-24-2011, 02:39 PM
Thate was meant t' relate t' thur steakhouse comparison. The shurriffs gone done corrected me, as they surely shud. Thaink Yew. Mah blood wasa boilin.

mult fail.......... still

Coyote Kev
04-24-2011, 02:43 PM
Kev, i hope that shtick has about run its course.

No this really is Coyote Kev. Ah've found this in thur past. Iffin yer a little bit different, yew 'r' picked on. Ah've learnt t' use such sheeeeet against sidewinders.
I mean what if I had learnt to speak and write like that. It don't make me bad.
Or un-worthy. I jus bin livin sooooo long I see thate the arguements never change, and, niether dus thur fun of life. I AM WHAT I AM. Live wi' it.

By thur way I lurved thate fellas beer advert.:LOL:

burt
04-24-2011, 02:53 PM
No this really is Coyote Kev. Ah've found this in thur past. Iffin yer a little bit different, yew 'r' picked on. Ah've learnt t' use such sheeeeet against sidewinders.
I mean what if I had learnt to speak and write like that. It don't make me bad.
Or un-worthy. I jus bin livin sooooo long I see thate the arguements never change, and, niether dus thur fun of life. I AM WHAT I AM. Live wi' it.

By thur way I lurved thate fellas beer advert.:LOL:

yawn.:shake::rolleyes:

Coyote Kev
04-24-2011, 02:56 PM
Only a wimp wears goggles t' smoke a joint. Yew little monkee.

Fish
04-24-2011, 03:09 PM
No this really is Coyote Kev. Ah've found this in thur past. Iffin yer a little bit different, yew 'r' picked on. Ah've learnt t' use such sheeeeet against sidewinders.
I mean what if I had learnt to speak and write like that. It don't make me bad.
Or un-worthy. I jus bin livin sooooo long I see thate the arguements never change, and, niether dus thur fun of life. I AM WHAT I AM. Live wi' it.

By thur way I lurved thate fellas beer advert.:LOL:

This is painful to read. Please quit being a dumbass and type correctly. It's obvious you're trying to be witty, but it's not working at all.

HMc
04-24-2011, 06:41 PM
This whole legal thing seems a bit beyond your level of comprehension. Perhaps you should stick to cleaning toilets.

And regardless of whether or not a man wears pants, or a dress, or a chicken suit, and regardless of who or what he ****s, if he's got a dick, he's a man, at least technically (I assume you fall into this category), and if you can't understand why a woman might have a problem with a man taking care of business in the ladies room, well, I guess you're an even bigger idiot than I previously thought.

Surely you the mean the whole paralegal thing, at least in your case?

Not that it's any surprise that you've no friggen clue, but there's actually a fair bit more to sexuality and gender ID then IF HE'S GOT A DICK HE'S A MAN, at least there is since studies began on this. Since you have all the cognitive development of very early primate, it probably requires too much critical analysis for you.

Much like being an actual lawyer, I guess.

Frazod
04-24-2011, 06:53 PM
Surely you the mean the whole paralegal thing, at least in your case?

Not that it's any surprise that you've no friggen clue, but there's actually a fair bit more to sexuality and gender ID then IF HE'S GOT A DICK HE'S A MAN, at least there is since studies began on this. Since you have all the cognitive development of very early primate, it probably requires too much critical analysis for you.

Much like being an actual lawyer, I guess.

Her Majesty's cocksucker seems angry with me. I guess this whole transgender freak thing has hit a bit too close too home for you, eh? Am I making your mascara run? LMAO

And nice try with the lawyer bit, but the day I regret not being lawyer will probably be the same day you start pissing while standing.

HMc
04-24-2011, 07:00 PM
For someone supposed to be capable of handing out internet "beat-downs", your smack talk is atrocious.

As for not being a lawyer, let's not act like you had a say in that matter.

Frazod
04-24-2011, 07:12 PM
For someone supposed to be capable of handing out internet "beat-downs", your smack talk is atrocious.

As for not being a lawyer, let's not act like you had a say in that matter.

Sort of like you had no say being a woman trapped in a man's body?

And sorry, I like my job, and not being a lawyer, just fine. I guess if I was really unhappy with my life I'd spend my free time being a pussy troll hanging out on foreign bulletin boards.

Got anything else, Matilda?

HMc
04-24-2011, 07:21 PM
Sort of like you had no say being a woman trapped in a man's body?

And sorry, I like my job, and not being a lawyer, just fine. I guess if I was really unhappy with my life I'd spend my free time being a pussy troll hanging out on foreign bulletin boards.

Got anything else, Matilda?

Sure you do. It's every alpha male's dream to grow up and be a paralegal.

BossChief
04-24-2011, 07:24 PM
With my luck, Id go over to help her/him and be holding the bitches down for the police and when they got there Id get arrested for assault or some bs and get a permanent charge.

Frazod
04-24-2011, 07:27 PM
Sure you do. It's every alpha male's dream to grow up and be a paralegal.

Well, I really wanted to be a gutless anonymous cybertwat so desperate for attention that he has to insult strangers on another continent for kicks, but apparently that job's taken.

Give it up, Her Majesty's cocksucker. Remember, I'm one of the real people here. I know lots of other members and what they do. Some have shittier jobs, some better. And I don't give a shit what you think about it anymore than anyone else would.

HMc
04-24-2011, 07:48 PM
That's strange, you seem to care quite a bit. You're spending a fair bit of time trying to convince me, anyway.

GloryDayz
04-24-2011, 08:01 PM
For the record, the definition of "transgender" varies widely. It DOES NOT necessarily mean that a sex change operation has been completed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender

Nice. I love it when somebody actually knows what they're talking about.. Good job..

DaFace
04-24-2011, 08:02 PM
http://www.compugenius.com/bbs/simpsons_wilkin_out.gif

Frazod
04-24-2011, 08:04 PM
That's strange, you seem to care quite a bit. You're spending a fair bit of time trying to convince me, anyway.

I enjoy toying with scum like you. Sure would be fun to know what's so utterly fucked about your wretched existence that makes you such a miserable piece of crap. But alas, we'll never know the details, will we? The anonymous troll - so mighty and perfect behind the veil of cyberspace.

Make up a good lie for me, at least. You're a multimillionaire rock star with the body of a Greek god and a supermodel girlfriend who attempts to demean a lowly paralegal in another country because.... because... Yeah, I've seen this movie a few times already, and know how it ends.

Carry on, Matilda. I'll be here all week.

HMc
04-24-2011, 08:16 PM
Yes, it's you that's toying with me here. You aren't taking any offence to anything I've said at all.

You're just Dane without the smarts or the success, but with all the attitude and personality problems.

JASONSAUTO
04-24-2011, 08:18 PM
Where is hmc from? And what does it have to do with anything?
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TheGuardian
04-24-2011, 09:03 PM
All I know is, some of the dudes that posted in this thread are 100% pussy and should get the same sex change the victim got.

I see 2 people putting the beat down on 1 person like that, those two are spitting teeth.

And fuck yes, as a MAN it is your duty to get involved you fucking worthless coward. I drove out of a parking lot one night and got on the side street. I look to my left and see at the end of the parking lot a guy picking up a chic and slamming her on the hood of her car. I wheel in, pop pop pop, end this drunk quick and escort the poor girl to her car. That's what you fucking do if you are a man. If you pay for it with your life, fine.

i'd rather die a man than live as a fucking coward like some of you bitches are. You should set your car on fire and drive it off a cliff with you inside. Part of the reason we have such a devolving of human respect is because people ALLOW shit like this to happen. They just stand around and laugh and say/do nothing. Cowards and pussies.

DaFace
04-24-2011, 09:10 PM
All I know is, some of the dudes that posted in this thread are 100% pussy and should get the same sex change the victim got.

I see 2 people putting the beat down on 1 person like that, those two are spitting teeth.

And fuck yes, as a MAN it is your duty to get involved you fucking worthless coward. I drove out of a parking lot one night and got on the side street. I look to my left and see at the end of the parking lot a guy picking up a chic and slamming her on the hood of her car. I wheel in, pop pop pop, end this drunk quick and escort the poor girl to her car. That's what you fucking do if you are a man. If you pay for it with your life, fine.

i'd rather die a man than live as a fucking coward like some of you bitches are. You should set your car on fire and drive it off a cliff with you inside. Part of the reason we have such a devolving of human respect is because people ALLOW shit like this to happen. They just stand around and laugh and say/do nothing. Cowards and pussies.

I generally agree with this sentiment.

(But just for the record, the bolded part is technically unknown as far as I know.)

Frazod
04-24-2011, 09:24 PM
Yes, it's you that's toying with me here. You aren't taking any offence to anything I've said at all.

You're just Dane without the smarts or the success, but with all the attitude and personality problems.

Still butthurt over Dane, I see. At least in that respect you have a great deal of company. Most of them anonymous chickenshits as well.

Yeah, Dane's got a great life. Worked hard to get it. I'm very happy for him. I'm secure enough in my own existence that it's not a problem for me. I guess you can't relate to that, can you?

Yeah, you're really radiating alpha male, Matilda. ROFL

Baconeater
04-24-2011, 09:26 PM
All I know is, some of the dudes that posted in this thread are 100% pussy and should get the same sex change the victim got.

I see 2 people putting the beat down on 1 person like that, those two are spitting teeth.

And fuck yes, as a MAN it is your duty to get involved you fucking worthless coward. I drove out of a parking lot one night and got on the side street. I look to my left and see at the end of the parking lot a guy picking up a chic and slamming her on the hood of her car. I wheel in, pop pop pop, end this drunk quick and escort the poor girl to her car. That's what you fucking do if you are a man. If you pay for it with your life, fine.

i'd rather die a man than live as a fucking coward like some of you bitches are. You should set your car on fire and drive it off a cliff with you inside. Part of the reason we have such a devolving of human respect is because people ALLOW shit like this to happen. They just stand around and laugh and say/do nothing. Cowards and pussies.
We can only hope this happens to you.

HMc
04-24-2011, 09:30 PM
Still butthurt over Dane, I see. At least in that respect you have a great deal of company. Most of them anonymous chickenshits as well.

Yeah, Dane's got a great life. Worked hard to get it. I'm very happy for him. I'm secure enough in my own existence that it's not a problem for me. I guess you relate to that, can you?

Yeah, you're really radiating alpha male, Matilda. ROFL

Let go of it. You're about as secure as gochiefs.

I never suggested that dane's success should be a "problem" for you. The fact that you raised it anyway suggests it may be.

TheGuardian
04-24-2011, 09:35 PM
We can only hope this happens to you.

You're one of the cowards I'm talking about bitch. worthless fucking whore.

scorpio
04-24-2011, 09:38 PM
I don't post here often, but Frazod really is a worthless piece of shit.

Baconeater
04-24-2011, 09:40 PM
You're one of the cowards I'm talking about bitch. worthless fucking whore.
Wow, thanks for clearing that up, I never would've guessed. And if you think that makes me a coward, pussy, worthless fucking whore or whatever, I don't really care. Frankly, I think risking your own personal safety for someone you don't know, in a situation you know nothing about, is monumentally stupid.

HMc
04-24-2011, 09:41 PM
I don't post here often, but Frazod really is a worthless piece of shit.

:LOL:

HMc
04-24-2011, 09:43 PM
Wow, thanks for clearing that up, I never would've guessed. And if you think that makes me a coward, pussy, worthless ****ing whore or whatever, I don't really care. Frankly, I think risking your own personal safety for someone you don't know, in a situation you know nothing about, is monumentally stupid.

It's pretty easy to avoid physical conflict - most people involved in it played a part in getting themselves there.

There's no friggin way I'm risking getting stuck with the AIDS needle sitting in some crackhead's pocket because I've tried to break up a fight between a bunch of tools who haven't got anything better to do.

Baconeater
04-24-2011, 09:48 PM
It's pretty easy to avoid physical conflict - most people involved in it played a part in getting themselves there.
Quoted for truth, and bolded for emphasis.

JASONSAUTO
04-24-2011, 09:53 PM
Wow, thanks for clearing that up, I never would've guessed. And if you think that makes me a coward, pussy, worthless fucking whore or whatever, I don't really care. Frankl sayingy, I think risking your own personal safety for someone you don't know, in a situation you know nothing about, is monumentally stupid.
People in the armed services do it every day. Just saying
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HMc
04-24-2011, 09:57 PM
Hardly the same thing though is it Jason?

Baconeater
04-24-2011, 09:59 PM
People in the armed services do it every day. Just saying
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ROFL Seriously? You're going there?


IT'S THEIR FUCKING JOB AND THEY KNOW THAT WHEN THEY SIGN UP.

Frazod
04-24-2011, 10:03 PM
I don't post here often, but Frazod really is a worthless piece of shit.

Look! Matilda has a friend!

I guess you two dildos can only imagine what it would be like to bugger each other.

Frazod
04-24-2011, 10:05 PM
Let go of it. You're about as secure as gochiefs.

I never suggested that dane's success should be a "problem" for you. The fact that you raised it anyway suggests it may be.

Gochiefs posts pictures and shows up at games. Gochiefs meets people. He doesn't talk trash from the safety of another continent, pussy.

Frazod
04-24-2011, 10:06 PM
It's pretty easy to avoid physical conflict - most people involved in it played a part in getting themselves there.

There's no friggin way I'm risking getting stuck with the AIDS needle sitting in some crackhead's pocket because I've tried to break up a fight between a bunch of tools who haven't got anything better to do.

I suspect avoiding physical conflict is one of your specialties, isn't it?

HMc
04-24-2011, 10:14 PM
I suspect avoiding physical conflict is one of your specialties, isn't it?

Because I'm not an utter cunt to everyone, it's not really an issue.

I appreciate that things are different for you.

HMc
04-24-2011, 10:16 PM
Gochiefs posts pictures and shows up at games. Gochiefs meets people. He doesn't talk trash from the safety of another continent, pussy.

I bet if I was local you'd be offering to meet me in some carpark to teach me a lesson, would you?

Frazod
04-24-2011, 10:16 PM
Because I'm not an utter cunt to everyone, it's not really an issue.

I appreciate that things are different for you.

Yeah, I'm sure you reserve your utter cuntness for the internet, don't you? LMAO

HMc
04-24-2011, 10:19 PM
Note that the only person laughing at you....is you.

You're pretty much known by the whole board as being a complete cunt. For every gay (and slightly creepy) neg rep remark I get from you, there are 4 positive reps from other posters telling me how much of a tool you are.

JASONSAUTO
04-24-2011, 10:24 PM
ROFL Seriously? You're going there?


IT'S THEIR FUCKING JOB AND THEY KNOW THAT WHEN THEY SIGN UP.

what about when there was a draft?
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Frazod
04-24-2011, 10:31 PM
Note that the only person laughing at you....is you.

You're pretty much known by the whole board as being a complete cunt. For every gay (and slightly creepy) neg rep remark I get from you, there are 4 positive reps from other posters telling me how much of a tool you are.

Oh, of that I have no doubt. I'm not real popular in the invisible troll camp. The people I'll tailgate with at Arrowhead and watch games with are fine with me. The people who meet me for a beer or lunch when they're in Chicago or I'm wherever they are fine with me.

The invisitrolls? **** 'em. I don't care if they like me. And if they end up being morons like you, I absolutely don't want them to like me.

Makes me feel better about myself.

You really should encourage them to come out of the closet, though. It's more fun that way.

HMc
04-24-2011, 10:36 PM
The best that you can say about the people that hang out with you is that they're "fine" with you? Aren't you popular then.

Baconeater
04-24-2011, 10:42 PM
what about when there was a draft?
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:facepalm:

Frazod
04-24-2011, 10:44 PM
The best that you can say about the people that hang out with you is that they're "fine" with you? Aren't you popular then.

I'm sorry - do you require itineraries and testimonials? I guess you'd gush if you ever made a real life friend, but to me, it's not a big deal.

KcMizzou
04-24-2011, 10:46 PM
So Fraz... you see the new "Game of Thrones" episode yet? Fantastic. I look forward to reading the first book after this season's over. Don't want spoilers... but it'll be cool to get the full story with the faces of the characters already set in my mind.