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HonestChieffan
04-25-2011, 02:03 PM
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/04/25/union-official-professor-teach-college-course-in-violent-union-tactics/

And they wonder why the tax payer says cut the budget?

Garcia Bronco
04-25-2011, 02:07 PM
Wow..I amazed at what they are teaching these students. You literally had a student and a teacher professing the use of violence as a means to overthrow the government or business.

Fish
04-25-2011, 03:40 PM
Good grief.

I have some personal insight into this, and I can assure you that the portrayal in the article is totally inaccurate. To start with, the quotes in the video are taken way out of context. This is a class discussion, not a Union meeting. They're talking about past and current labor scenarios, they're not laying out guidelines for recommended student behavior. It would be equivalent to posting a video of a history course talking about the Holocaust, and writing an article titled "Taxpayer funded Professor encourages students to kill all Jews."

The professor Judy Ancel teaches the course. The business manager Don Giljum is nothing but a guest speaker, and is not employed by, or paid by, the University.

Nice example though, of how right wing nuts can take a simple unbiased college course and paint it as some university course led by Union thug Communist professors stealing taxpayer money.

The Mad Crapper
07-04-2011, 04:43 PM
http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad158/FrankRob/UNIONLAPDOG.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/digger48/Democracy_Look20110318053738.jpg

Brainiac
07-05-2011, 05:44 AM
Good grief.

I have some personal insight into this, and I can assure you that the portrayal in the article is totally inaccurate. To start with, the quotes in the video are taken way out of context. This is a class discussion, not a Union meeting. They're talking about past and current labor scenarios, they're not laying out guidelines for recommended student behavior. It would be equivalent to posting a video of a history course talking about the Holocaust, and writing an article titled "Taxpayer funded Professor encourages students to kill all Jews."

The professor Judy Ancel teaches the course. The business manager Don Giljum is nothing but a guest speaker, and is not employed by, or paid by, the University.

Nice example though, of how right wing nuts can take a simple unbiased college course and paint it as some university course led by Union thug Communist professors stealing taxpayer money.
It's too bad the video got pulled from YouTube and we can't judge for ourselves.

phisherman
07-05-2011, 06:21 AM
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/breitbarted-again-biggovernment-uses-edited

how about this little gem? the biggovernment website even ended up apologizing for blaring this out of context BS by using a doctored/creatively edited video.

oldandslow
07-05-2011, 06:48 AM
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/breitbarted-again-biggovernment-uses-edited

how about this little gem? the biggovernment website even ended up apologizing for blaring this out of context BS by using a doctored/creatively edited video.

It's just how the right wing rolls :).

|Zach|
07-05-2011, 07:38 AM
Dishonestchiefsfan strikes again!

Garcia Bronco
07-05-2011, 10:12 AM
It's too bad the video got pulled from YouTube and we can't judge for ourselves.

I saw it with my own lying eyes I guess...but the kid...regardless of context was preaching an early Malcom X stance on getting his way..."by any means"...which includes murder and theft and violence.

Fish
07-05-2011, 10:33 AM
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/breitbarted-again-biggovernment-uses-edited

how about this little gem? the biggovernment website even ended up apologizing for blaring this out of context BS by using a doctored/creatively edited video.

Thanks for the post. That seems to clear things up rather nicely.

phisherman
07-05-2011, 10:56 AM
I saw it with my own lying eyes I guess...but the kid...regardless of context was preaching an early Malcom X stance on getting his way..."by any means"...which includes murder and theft and violence.

did you see the full video? i mean, the unedited version that provides a bit of context, which is definitely needed in this case.

Garcia Bronco
07-05-2011, 11:04 AM
did you see the full video? i mean, the unedited version that provides a bit of context, which is definitely needed in this case.

Context is key, but when we have students advocating violence then that is a teaching opportunity. Maybe the teacher corrected the student....I doubt it though.

phisherman
07-05-2011, 11:10 AM
dude, assumptions, assumptions. just go to the link and watch the whole video. it's all there, unedited.

go bowe
07-05-2011, 12:54 PM
dude, assumptions, assumptions. just go to the link and watch the whole video. it's all there, unedited.

bah humbug balderdash...

the unedited video is a forgery... /sportsshrink