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SNR
04-25-2011, 07:40 PM
Gonna do it tomorrow.

Somebody had to post it before orange. Also, no Huffington Post link.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/ron-paul-launches-presidential-campaign-20110425


Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, whose outspoken libertarian views and folksy style made him a cult hero during two previous presidential campaigns, will announce on Tuesday that he's going to try a third time.

Sources close to Paul, who is in his 12th term in the House, said he will unveil an exploratory presidential committee, a key step in gearing up for a White House race. He will also unveil the campaign’s leadership team in Iowa, where the first votes of the presidential election will be cast in caucuses next year.

Paul, 75, ran as the Libertarian Party candidate in 1988, finishing with less than one half a percent of the vote. After more than a decade as a Republican congressman, Paul gave it another shot in the 2008 presidential election, gaining attention for being the only Republican candidate calling for the end to the war in Iraq and for his “money bomb” fundraising strategy, which brought in millions of dollars from online donors in single-day pushes.

Paul took 10 percent of the vote in the Iowa caucuses and 8 percent in New Hampshire’s primary. He finished second, with 14 percent of the vote, in the Nevada caucuses, and eventually finished fourth in the Republican nominating process with 5.6 percent of the total vote. Paul’s campaign book, The Revolution: A Manifesto also reached No. 1 on The New York Times best-seller list in 2008.

This would seem to be an ideal year for Paul: Since the last election, the Republican Party has moved much closer to his view on deficit reduction, which made him an early tea party favorite. All of the party's top-tier presidential hopefuls are focusing on lowering debt, government spending, and tax rates, issues Paul has long advocated.

KILLER_CLOWN
04-25-2011, 07:41 PM
:thumb:

SNR
04-25-2011, 08:11 PM
Paul and Johnson need to figure out a way to work together in the early primaries, but having them both on the ticket when delegate votes are decided will be a problem. Liberty ideas aren't strong enough to get split up by multiple candidates

Chocolate Hog
04-25-2011, 08:35 PM
This is awesome.

FD
04-25-2011, 08:40 PM
He's on the Colbert Report tonight, maybe he'll announce it there.

Saul Good
04-25-2011, 08:49 PM
If Ron Paul wins more states than I do, I'll never post again.

Scoreboard:

Saul: 0
Paul: 0

SNR
04-25-2011, 08:51 PM
If Ron Paul wins more states than I do, I'll never post again.

Scoreboard:

Saul: 0
Paul: 0:titus:

The odds favor you, but that's still a dangerous claim. He won a handful of delegates in 2008. He'll probably receive a bump in this go-around. Remember, all it takes is a Nevada or Minnesota or Maine to send you packing

Chocolate Hog
04-25-2011, 09:11 PM
If Ron Paul wins more states than I do, I'll never post again.

Scoreboard:

Saul: 0
Paul: 0

Please win Dr.Paul.

Bewbies
04-25-2011, 09:53 PM
I wish he had a shot.

Saul Good
04-25-2011, 09:54 PM
:titus:

The odds favor you, but that's still a dangerous claim. He won a handful of delegates in 2008. He'll probably receive a bump in this go-around. Remember, all it takes is a Nevada or Minnesota or Maine to send you packing

Not if I win a state or two. If we tie, we go to electoral votes.

SNR
04-25-2011, 10:00 PM
Not if I win a state or two. If we tie, we go to electoral votes.Are you saying there's an announcement you'd like to make? Right here on my thread? The mic is yours. Do you have an announcement to make regarding your involvement in the 2012 Presidential Election?

SNR
04-25-2011, 10:01 PM
Oh, and Paul said he's making an announcement "very soon" on Colbert. He didn't make it official tonight though.

KILLER_CLOWN
04-25-2011, 10:02 PM
Not if I win a state or two. If we tie, we go to electoral votes.

It was nice knowing ya Saul, maybe you should stipulate how long instead of forever. Seems like such a long time.

Direckshun
04-25-2011, 10:06 PM
If Ron Paul wins more states than I do, I'll never post again.

Scoreboard:

Saul: 0
Paul: 0

LMAO

Saul Good
04-25-2011, 10:06 PM
Are you saying there's an announcement you'd like to make? Right here on my thread? The mic is yours. Do you have an announcement to make regarding your involvement in the 2012 Presidential Election?

Don't underestimate me. I've already won as many NFL games as Brodie Croyle. Ron Paul only beat me by half a percent last time in terms of the popular vote. We finished in a dead heat in terms of electoral votes.

Chocolate Hog
04-25-2011, 10:10 PM
Don't underestimate me. I've already won as many NFL games as Brodie Croyle. Ron Paul only beat me by half a percent last time in terms of the popular vote. We finished in a dead heat in terms of electoral votes.

You have as many electoral votes as Mitt Romney too! You stud.

SNR
04-25-2011, 10:12 PM
Don't underestimate me. I've already won as many NFL games as Brodie Croyle. Ron Paul only beat me by half a percent last time in terms of the popular vote. We finished in a dead heat in terms of electoral votes.That's fine.

I just hope when you do make an important decision in the near future you won't forget the people who made you what you are today and will do something nice for them by announcing your decision on my thread.

Saul Good
04-25-2011, 10:13 PM
Yeah, but Romney drew enough votes to beat me by more than the margin of error. Paul was close enough that I could have demanded a recount.

KILLER_CLOWN
04-25-2011, 10:15 PM
Don't underestimate me. I've already won as many NFL games as Brodie Croyle. Ron Paul only beat me by half a percent last time in terms of the popular vote. We finished in a dead heat in terms of electoral votes.

How much did your moneybombs net ya?

Saul Good
04-25-2011, 10:15 PM
That's fine.

I just hope when you do make an important decision in the near future you won't forget the people who made you what you are today and will do something nice for them by announcing your decision on my thread.

I will even release my birth certificate in your thread (short form only).

Saul Good
04-25-2011, 10:16 PM
How much did your moneybombs net ya?

About tree fiddy

KILLER_CLOWN
04-25-2011, 10:17 PM
About tree fiddy

LMAO

KILLER_CLOWN
04-25-2011, 10:42 PM
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orange
04-25-2011, 10:51 PM
About tree fiddy

Shouldn't that be about tree aidy?

wazu
04-25-2011, 11:03 PM
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Great stuff. I've missed hearing Ron Paul talk. And wow, Whoopi has tripled in size. Somewhere Ted Danson is rolling over in his grave.

Jaric
04-26-2011, 06:59 AM
Since as far as I can tell I'm the only delegate here from Indiana, my question Saul is what are you willing to do to win my electoral votes?

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 08:01 AM
Since as far as I can tell I'm the only delegate here from Indiana, my question Saul is what are you willing to do to win my electoral votes?

Well I don't give rep, if that's what you're hinting at. That said, if an unspecified sum of unmarked casino cash were tofind its way into your possession...

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 08:03 AM
Let it be noted that my own potential candidacy has drawn more interest in this thread than has Dr. Paul's. I know this isn't a representative sampling of our entire country, but it's at least as scientific as a rigged straw poll.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 08:08 AM
Where does Dr. Paul stand on the issues that matter, and why won't he debate me?

Members have a right to know where he stands on filter bypassing, use of capital punishment via the banhammer, and, of course, tags.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 08:51 AM
Maybe if you just ditched the "Paul is unelectable" then perhaps Paul could win.
Ever think of trying that? Or doing something different?


Ya' know things are not going to change with any of the other candidates so you might as well try it this election.


I know what your real unstated reason is—and it has nothing to do with Paul's unelectability—you don't like his FP aka you want the wars in the ME
because Muslims are a threat to national interests instead of our national defense. If you believe this then you bought a bridge to nowhere.

Donger
04-26-2011, 08:52 AM
LMAO

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 08:54 AM
LMAO

Nervous laughter of empire decline.

Donger
04-26-2011, 08:55 AM
Nervous laughter of empire decline.

Why on Earth would Ron Paul make me nervous?

Otter
04-26-2011, 09:01 AM
I find it absolutely amazing people laugh/cringe/snarl or whatever on Ron Paul then turn around and vote for Bush, Obama or McCain.

Now that's ROFL worthy in a very sad way.

Iowanian
04-26-2011, 09:02 AM
ronpaul isn't unelectable because of the 3rd party, ronpaul is unelectable because he's a kook.

Otter
04-26-2011, 09:02 AM
ronpaul isn't unelectable because of the 3rd party, ronpaul is unelectable because he's a kook.

Do you consider Obama a better alternative?

Donger
04-26-2011, 09:03 AM
I find it absolutely amazing people laugh/cringe/snarl or whatever on Ron Paul then turn around and vote for Bush, Obama or McCain.

Now that's ROFL worthy in a very sad way.

If it weren't for Paul's foreign policy views, I'd probably vote for him.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 09:04 AM
Maybe if you just ditched the "Paul is unelectable" then perhaps Paul could win.
Ever think of trying that? Or doing something different?


Ya' know things are not going to change with any of the other candidates so you might as well try it this election.


I know what your real unstated reason is—and it has nothing to do with Paul's unelectability—you don't like his FP aka you want the wars in the ME
because Muslims are a threat to national interests instead of our national defense. If you believe this then you bought a bridge to nowhere.

I like him just fine. I think he's alittle too extreme on FP, but its not a deal-killer for me. That said, he has about as much chance of winning as I do.

Iowanian
04-26-2011, 09:04 AM
Do you consider Obama a better alternative?

I'd rather bufu a bigfoot than vote for Obama. Obama sucks dirty monkey balls as President of the United States.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 09:13 AM
If it weren't for Paul's foreign policy views, I'd probably vote for him.

Thanks for being honest. I think this is true of many more. :thumb:

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 09:14 AM
Do you consider Obama a better alternative?

Anyone calling Paul a "kook" is just engaging in projection, ignorant of our Founding/Constitution, what made America free and great and cannot articulate a single intelligent argument to Paul's positions.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 09:15 AM
Why on Earth would Ron Paul make me nervous?

I don't know the reason why. I just know it happened.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 09:17 AM
I like him just fine. I think he's alittle too extreme on FP, but its not a deal-killer for me. That said, he has about as much chance of winning as I do.

Oh I didn't say anything about "liking him" I'm fine if you don't. I was just speaking to the unelectability.

Donger
04-26-2011, 09:19 AM
I don't know the reason why. I just know it happened.

No, you don't. Paul doesn't make me nervous at all. He'll never be elected.

RedNeckRaider
04-26-2011, 09:21 AM
ronpaul isn't unelectable because of the 3rd party, ronpaul is unelectable because he's a kook.

He is as electable as anyone else lined up to run against Barry~

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 09:24 AM
No, you don't. Paul doesn't make me nervous at all. He'll never be elected.

I wasn't trying to say Paul made you nervous. Just that a laughing smiley in the middle of a conversation like this can imply nervousness laughter. I notice you do that in threads like that.
So I like to tease you about it. Heh! jmo.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 09:25 AM
Oh I didn't say anything about "liking him" I'm fine if you don't. I was just speaking to the unelectability.

I call him unelectable because he's unelectable. Its a simple observation. This isn't me speculating that Rush Limbaugh or Keith Olberman are unelectable.

The guy has a track record. If he were a radio station, his numbers would rival static. Nothing personal, as he would be a fine POTUS, but if I'm going to vote for someone who has no chance of winning just because his views mirror my own, I'm going to write in my own name. Its the same thing, so why not. Go all the way?

Saul: 0
Paul: 0

Jaric
04-26-2011, 09:26 AM
Oh I didn't say anything about "liking him" I'm fine if you don't. I was just speaking to the unelectability.

This election is pretty much his "if not now, when?" moment. At the moment, Pauls strongest selling point is the thing on most american's minds. If he doesn't win the nomination, it's time to pass the torch. It might be time to pass the torch anyway.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 09:29 AM
This election is pretty much his "if not now, when?" moment. At the moment, Pauls strongest selling point is the thing on most american's minds. If he doesn't win the nomination, it's time to pass the torch. It might be time to pass the torch anyway.

I can agree with this. What is "the thing on most american's minds" for you here? The wars in the ME? Or just the economics? Based on the applause in that vid and polls it seems to be the wars in the ME— the biggest concern of concern for those who think he's not a good choice for whatever reason ( electability and the desire to take out Iran next).

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 09:30 AM
I call him unelectable because he's unelectable. Its a simple observation. This isn't me speculating that Rush Limbaugh or Keith Olberman are unelectable.

The guy has a track record. If he were a radio station, his numbers would rival static. Nothing personal, as he would be a fine POTUS, but if I'm going to vote for someone who has no chance of winning just because his views mirror my own, I'm going to write in my own name. Its the same thing, so why not. Go all the way?

Saul: 0
Paul: 0

And I was saying if those of you who think that didn't buy into that he would be electable. That is all. It's just a consideration. It doesn't have to be that way.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 09:34 AM
And I was saying if those of you who think that didn't buy into that he would be electable. That is all. It's just a consideration. It doesn't have to be that way.

I understood what you were saying. The concept, absurd though it may be, isn't particularly difficult to grasp.

Jaric
04-26-2011, 09:36 AM
I can agree with this. What is "the thing on most american's minds" for you here? The wars in the ME? Or just the economics? Based on the applause in that vid and polls it seems to be the wars in the ME— the biggest concern of concern for those who think he's not a good choice for whatever reason ( electability and the desire to take out Iran next).

Economy/debt

His foreign policy scares a lot of people (scare might not be the most appropriate word but it's what I'm going with) who vote in the republican primaries.

Foreign policy is going to be a big part of the campaign, but the economy is what's going to drive this election. People seem to be slowly waking up to the reality that our way of life is currently unsustainable and we need to make some fairly drastic changes unless we want the whole thing blowing up on us.

For the record, I still don't think Paul has much of a chance at winning even the nomination, though I would certainly vote for him.

RedNeckRaider
04-26-2011, 09:37 AM
Economy/debt

His foreign policy scares a lot of people (scare might not be the most appropriate word but it's what I'm going with) who vote in the republican primaries.

Foreign policy is going to be a big part of the campaign, but the economy is what's going to drive this election. People seem to be slowly waking up to the reality that our way of life is currently unsustainable and we need to make some fairly drastic changes unless we want the whole thing blowing up on us.

For the record, I still don't think Paul has much of a chance at winning even the nomination, though I would certainly vote for him.

Over Barry in a heartbeat~

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 09:38 AM
I feel like my campaign is losing steam.

Jaric
04-26-2011, 09:40 AM
Over Barry in a heartbeat~

As much as I despise the majority of republicans, that would be the case with most if not all of the people running on the republican ticket. I've shunned the lesser or two evils voting method before, but Obama has to go.

With Paul, I wouldn't have to hold my nose when I do it.

Jaric
04-26-2011, 09:41 AM
I feel like my campaign is losing steam.You need a nice short catch phrase that's easy to remember. Once you figure it out, spam the shit out of it until everyone associates you with it.

RedNeckRaider
04-26-2011, 09:49 AM
As much as I despise the majority of republicans, that would be the case with most if not all of the people running on the republican ticket. I've shunned the lesser or two evils voting method before, but Obama has to go.
With Paul, I wouldn't have to hold my nose when I do it.

I see no other method. How can anyone defend either party?

Cave Johnson
04-26-2011, 09:50 AM
So Paul's in and Trump's a definite maybe.

Come on, Palin. Those debates would be a must-watch crazy fest.

RedNeckRaider
04-26-2011, 09:51 AM
I feel like my campaign is losing steam.

A campaign donation~

SNR
04-26-2011, 09:53 AM
Don't make me repost my Jurassic Park joke from the other thread.

It's telling that conservatives around here supposedly care about fiscal responsibility and would rather elect Harry Ass McGee than Obama. Yet here comes a candidate would would do the best job at cutting spending and keeping taxes low than anybody else. He hasn't said anything about a 90% cut to defense or anything like that. His only platform is bring the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan. And that makes conservatives go, "Ehh... too expensive. Let's instead elect that Romney guy whose crooked and used-car salesman politician ways will probably send the Republican party into ruin much the same way Obama has done for the Democrats"

Yeah, nobody has actually said that about Romney around here yet, but I'm thinking that's the way it goes. The problems he and others will inherit will be too much. The old policy of cutting taxes when the money isn't there just isn't going to work this time.

chiefsnorth
04-26-2011, 10:06 AM
Waste of money

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 10:15 AM
You need a nice short catch phrase that's easy to remember. Once you figure it out, spam the shit out of it until everyone associates you with it.

It needs to play in the heartland. Maybe something like "vote fer Saul, y'all".

I just received a generous donation of casino cash. I could use that to buy some advertising. Maybe I could pay people to put my slogan in their sig lines.

Alternatively, maybe I could go Charlie Sheen and spend it on hookers and blow.

vailpass
04-26-2011, 10:37 AM
Ron Paul launching potus campaign?
Why?

mikey23545
04-26-2011, 10:39 AM
If it weren't for Paul's foreign policy views, I'd probably vote for him.

This.

If this senile old kook enables Obama to win a second term, then there is no karmic punishment too great.

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2011, 10:42 AM
I wouldn't come out of retirement to vote for the guy. Even if he could be elected (which he can't), and even if he could use the presidency to ram his brand of economic reform through Congress (which he couldn't), it's too late. Party's over.

Donger
04-26-2011, 10:44 AM
I don't think that Paul actually wants to be POTUS anyway.

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2011, 11:46 AM
This.

If this senile old kook enables Obama to win a second term, then there is no karmic punishment too great.

Man there will be a huge difference between Obama and Romney!

SNR
04-26-2011, 12:07 PM
Man there will be a huge difference between Obama and Romney!This.

Romney/Bachmann/Huckabee/Pawlenty/Obama doesn't matter. All and any of them are going to flush this country down the toilet through their bad policies. Which of course, are enacted just to get votes

BigMeatballDave
04-26-2011, 12:14 PM
If he runs Independent or Libertarian I may vote for him.

I will never vote for Rep. or Dem. ever again.

FishingRod
04-26-2011, 12:36 PM
If he runs Independent or Libertarian I may vote for him.

I will never vote for Rep. or Dem. ever again.


I feel your pain.

I have voted for Both Democrats and Republicans for President (more accurately against the other guy) but, by the time W ran the 2nd time, I had my fill of both parties. I voted Libertarian after that but must say that voting for someone that has no better chance to win than the Prohibition candidate, doesn’t bring a warm feeling to ones heart. Yet I live in the state of KS and it is a foregone conclusion that its electoral votes willbe cast in the Republican column so it just doesn't matter. I honestly think the Libertarian Party is too isolationist and too Anti-Government but, a healthy nudge in their direction would be a good thing for our country. A libertarian President might just be able to trim back the size and reach of our Government and the military industrial complex. A President like that would need some truly excellent secret service protection.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 12:37 PM
This.

Romney/Bachmann/Huckabee/Pawlenty/Obama doesn't matter. All and any of them are going to flush this country down the toilet through their bad policies. Which of course, are enacted just to get votes

:thumb:

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 12:39 PM
This.

If this senile old kook enables Obama to win a second term, then there is no karmic punishment too great.

Quite the contrary, it's supporters of Republicans from your camp that drove the Republicans out of office and made Obama palatable. Yet, you want the some of the same kind of candidates who are also bankrupting America perhaps just on a slower, and off-the-budget but still inevitable, basis.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 12:41 PM
It needs to play in the heartland. Maybe something like "vote fer Saul, y'all".
That's southern sir. The heartland's accent is different.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 12:43 PM
Don't make me repost my Jurassic Park joke from the other thread.

It's telling that conservatives around here supposedly care about fiscal responsibility and would rather elect Harry Ass McGee than Obama. Yet here comes a candidate would would do the best job at cutting spending and keeping taxes low than anybody else. He hasn't said anything about a 90% cut to defense or anything like that. His only platform is bring the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan. And that makes conservatives go, "Ehh... too expensive. Let's instead elect that Romney guy whose crooked and used-car salesman politician ways will probably send the Republican party into ruin much the same way Obama has done for the Democrats"

Yeah, nobody has actually said that about Romney around here yet, but I'm thinking that's the way it goes. The problems he and others will inherit will be too much. The old policy of cutting taxes when the money isn't there just isn't going to work this time.

And I might add, I found out last night that Trump had given money to Democrats lincluding Democrats like Rahm Emmanuel and once supported a Canadian-style healthcare system for America. Was also pro-choice—not that this really matters for a president now.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 12:46 PM
Economy/debt

His foreign policy scares a lot of people (scare might not be the most appropriate word but it's what I'm going with) who vote in the republican primaries.

Foreign policy is going to be a big part of the campaign, but the economy is what's going to drive this election. People seem to be slowly waking up to the reality that our way of life is currently unsustainable and we need to make some fairly drastic changes unless we want the whole thing blowing up on us.

For the record, I still don't think Paul has much of a chance at winning even the nomination, though I would certainly vote for him.

I see. I don't seeing him winning the R nomination either because the leadership will pull out all the stops to not see it happen, even if it remotely appears he has more support than expected. Not just because of that though, because of the donger, mikey, chiefsnorth, iowanians and patteeu's in the party. If polls show 70% sick of the wars in the ME who is that 30%? Well it's likely mostly Republicans—certainly not the libertarian/pale-con wing.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 12:49 PM
I don't think that Paul actually wants to be POTUS anyway.

That's likely true. He had to be heavily persuaded last time. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case again despite outraising all of the mainline candidates so far to date.* Hope he can at least be in the debates and continue to influence ideas though. For me, a man who isn't motivated for this kind of power makes a more desirable president though.


* Newt raised only $50,000 something. LOL!

Iowanian
04-26-2011, 12:53 PM
He is as electable as anyone else lined up to run against Barry~

He's proven to be unelectable even in a primary, in 3 tries.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 12:57 PM
He's proven to be unelectable even in a primary, in 3 tries.

I think he could finish in the top 2 if he ran in the "The Rent is Too Damn High" primaries.

SNR
04-26-2011, 01:02 PM
He's proven to be unelectable even in a primary, in 3 tries.He won the party nomination in 1988. I'd say he did very well in those primaries

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2011, 01:09 PM
He won the party nomination in 1988. I'd say he did very well in those primaries

Huh? Primaries?

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 01:17 PM
He won the party nomination in 1988. I'd say he did very well in those primaries

Ron Paul is George Bush?

orange
04-26-2011, 01:34 PM
Huh? Primaries?

Ron Paul is George Bush?

He didn't say "Republican."

mikey23545
04-26-2011, 01:38 PM
What was he running for, King of his high school reunion dance?

mikey23545
04-26-2011, 01:42 PM
Quite the contrary, it's supporters of Republicans from your camp that drove the Republicans out of office and made Obama palatable. Yet, you want the some of the same kind of candidates who are also bankrupting America perhaps just on a slower, and off-the-budget but still inevitable, basis.

Don't worry, if we Republicans can win the next election we'll set aside some money to build a huge bed out in a Nebraska cornfield so you, Ron Paul, and his 18 or 19 other supporters can hide under it while you pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist.

SNR
04-26-2011, 01:42 PM
He didn't say "Republican."
http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/goodcolr.gif

You guys are waaaaaay slow.

Now I feel kind of guilty about my opening joke

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2011, 02:05 PM
He didn't say "Republican."

It doesn't apply to the Libertarian Party in 1988 either. No primaries. Just a convention.

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2011, 02:18 PM
Nevermind the guy has been elected to congress a billion times by a large %.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 02:22 PM
Don't worry, if we Republicans can win the next election we'll set aside some money to build a huge bed out in a Nebraska cornfield so you, Ron Paul, and his 18 or 19 other supporters can hide under it while you pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist.

Oh, I think this is the other way around. You need to build yourself an underground bunker to keep yourself safe from every demonized group the military industrial complex, mercantilists and statist interests conjure up for you to be skeer'd of because you're that gullible. Not to mention a place where you can shoot yourself and end our suffering from your Type A personality, once you've completely done America in from foreign invasions.

My fellow Paulies and I will be just fine, trading and visiting the world instead of invading and bombing anyone who looks at America cross-eyed or wants to defend themselves from invasions.

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2011, 02:29 PM
Nevermind the guy has been elected to congress a billion times by a large %.

So has Nancy Pelosi.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 03:01 PM
He didn't say "Republican."

Right, but he's running for the Republican nomination now. Walter Mondale may have been elected president of his homeowners association, but that didn't mean he was electable in as POTUS.

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2011, 03:14 PM
So has Nancy Pelosi.

SO WUZ HITLER@!

Jaric
04-26-2011, 03:14 PM
SO WUZ HITLER@!

Pelosi is worse.

:harumph:

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2011, 03:16 PM
SO WUZ HITLER@!

He was?

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2011, 03:27 PM
He was?

"Even though Hitler had badly lost the presidential election, he was drawing ever-larger crowds during the congressional election."

Whos that sound like????

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2011, 03:31 PM
"Even though Hitler had badly lost the presidential election, he was drawing ever-larger crowds during the congressional election."

Whos that sound like????

And no he wasn't he was appointed. Just like Paul will be.

JohnnyV13
04-26-2011, 04:25 PM
In other news, Liz Taylor is entering the 2012 Miss America Pageant. "Who cares if I'm dead and I've been married 7 times," opinioned Miss Taylor. "I have as good a chance as anyone."

ChiefaRoo
04-26-2011, 05:02 PM
Ron Paul is a good guy. I like him.

He doesn't stand a chance at being President of the United States.

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2011, 05:02 PM
From PPP

Don't laugh at Paul
Ron Paul's not as big of a joke as people think.

Do I think he has a serious chance at the Republican nomination? Not really. But I think he could play a much bigger role in the race than people might expect. Consider some of these recent poll numbers:

-In Iowa Paul's net favorability with GOP voters is +38 at 55/17. The only Republican more popular with the base than that in the state is Mike Huckabee. Paul's numbers trump Tim Pawlenty (+32), Mitt Romney (+30), Sarah Palin (+29), and Newt Gingrich (+21) as well as a cadre of other less well known candidates. Paul has part of the same problem Palin showed in her polling earlier in the year- a disconnect between the extent to which people like him and their willingness to spend their vote on him- but those are still some pretty good numbers.

-On our 'main' ballot test in Iowa Paul gets 6%, tying Pawlenty and slightly edging Michele Bachmann's 5%. In a field without Donald Trump, Mike Huckabee, and Sarah Palin- something entirely plausible- Paul gets 16%, putting him in third place in the state.

-It's a similar story for Paul in New Hampshire. His favorability there is +32 at 53/21, putting him behind only Romney. He does better than Pawlenty's +20, Huckabee's +12, Palin's +12, and Gingrich's +9,

-Paul gets 9% on our 'main' ballot test in New Hampshire, besting Palin's 7%, Pawlenty's 4%, and Bachmann's 3%. Paul gets all the way up to 18% in a Huckabee/Palin/Trumpless field there, finishing second only to Romney.

There's been endless jabber today about the impact of Haley Barbour not running but I honestly think in the long haul Paul will pick up more support than Barbour ever would have and that he will pick up a lot more support than many of the other folks sucking up the media air as well. He probably won't win the nomination but with a weak field that the Republican base is unenthused about I bet he'll be a much bigger player this time around than he was in 2008.

ClevelandBronco
04-26-2011, 05:25 PM
"Even though Hitler had badly lost the presidential election, he was drawing ever-larger crowds during the congressional election."

Whos that sound like????

Hitler.

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 08:46 PM
And no he wasn't he was appointed. Just like Paul will be.

I believe Germany's Constitutional process allowed for that under the circumstances. Who put their Constitution there?

SNR
04-26-2011, 09:30 PM
This thread WILL be bumped many times until primary season.

Remember, Saul. One state. That's it. That's all it takes is one state to turn you into Knowmo/DarthCarlSatan/GoChiefs

Unless of course, you actually follow through and leave forever.

I won't enforce anything, though. I only politely request that you give me your signature for 3 months if it happens

SNR
04-26-2011, 09:34 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20057611-503544.html

April 26, 2011 5:45 PM
Ron Paul announces presidential run, says Obama can't win youth vote

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Rep. Ron Paul, the Texas Republican known for his staunch libertarian views, announced today he's forming a presidential exploratory committee.

This marks Paul's third bid for the presidency. He first ran in 1988 and again in 2008, winning a small but enthusiastic group of supporters among the GOP electorate.

Part of Paul's fervent support in 2008 was grounded in college-aged voters, a constituency that also largely favored Barack Obama. In this campaign, the 75-year-old Paul said today, Mr. Obama won't be able to hang on to the youth vote.

"I think that Obama will not be able to hang on to that enthusiasm of the young people because of what's happened in the last couple years," Paul said in Des Moines, Iowa, after his exploratory committee was announced.

The financial crisis, the bloated deficit and the ongoing wars make the libertarian views Paul is known for -- such as his anti-interventionist foreign policy and his antipathy toward the Federal Reserve -- even more relevant than in 2008, Paul suggested.

"I believe there are literally millions of more people now concerned about the very things I talked about four years ago," he said, such as "the excessive spending, the entitlement system, the foreign policy, as well as the monetary system."

"If you want to curtail spending... you can't do it without addressing the inflationary system," continued Paul, who chairs a House subcommittee on domestic monetary policy. "Congress does not have to act responsibly... they've resorted to printing out money."

Even as the issues central to Paul's campaign receive greater focus, some consider Paul's candidacy a longshot, given that several of his policy positions do not align with those of the Republican party. Still, it's likely he'll at least play a strong role in shaping the course the Republican primary debate.

That impact of Paul's candidacy in the primaries could also be reinforced by former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson's candidacy. Johnson also holds largely libertarian views and is often compared to Paul.

Paul's enthusiastic support base made it clear at this year's Conservative Political Action Conference that they are still going strong. College Republicans turned out in droves at the conference, and Paul won the straw poll.

Jesse Benton, an aide to Paul, told Hotsheet earlier this month that Paul's political action committee LibertyPAC has already raised more than $1.2 million and that "he has the structure in place to hit the ground running if he makes the decision to run."

With an exploratory committee, Paul can raise more funds specifically for parts of his 2012 campaign. Other candidates who have formed exploratory committees include former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Paul said today that the formation of his exploratory committee does not mean he is fully the race; he said he is likely to determine whether to commit to the race by next month.

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2011, 09:38 PM
Paul is wrong the Youth vote will go to Obama.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 09:41 PM
This thread WILL be bumped many times until primary season.

Remember, Saul. One state. That's it. That's all it takes is one state to turn you into Knowmo/DarthCarlSatan/GoChiefs

Unless of course, you actually follow through and leave forever.

I won't enforce anything, though. I only politely request that you give me your signature for 3 months if it happens

It would take a miracle for him to win a single Republican primary. Hell will freeze over before he wins the nomination. Short of that, it would take a write-in campaign for him to actually win a state. I like my chances.

Paul: 0
Saul: 0

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 09:43 PM
Paul is doing very well on college campuses with the youth. He's also out raised all Republicans so far.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 09:44 PM
Paul is doing very well on college campuses with the youth. He's also out raised all Republicans so far.

This all sounds vaguely familiar.

SNR
04-26-2011, 09:47 PM
It would take a miracle for him to win a single Republican primary. Hell will freeze over before he wins the nomination. Short of that, it would take a write-in campaign for him to actually win a state. I like my chances.

Paul: 0
Saul: 0I thought you were talking about delegates. You weren't clear at all. Your original post:

If Ron Paul wins more states than I do, I'll never post again.

Scoreboard:

Saul: 0
Paul: 0

I'll let you off the hook. Only because there is too much confusion to enforce this stuff

BucEyedPea
04-26-2011, 09:52 PM
This all sounds vaguely familiar.
So what. It's nothing new that he does well with the youth vote that believes in a freedom message than the stodgy older Rs. Exit polls showed in the NH primary that McCain won the over forty crowd and Paul did get the younger crowd. Obama got more of them last time but he's not polling as well now as he was then.

go bowe
04-26-2011, 09:55 PM
Don't worry, if we Republicans can win the next election we'll set aside some money to build a huge bed out in a Nebraska cornfield so you, Ron Paul, and his 18 or 19 other supporters can hide under it while you pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist.this...

muthafuckin this...

KILLER_CLOWN
04-26-2011, 10:55 PM
this...

mutha****in this...

You're a Republican?

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2011, 11:14 PM
You're a Republican?

No the guy is just a dickrider without an original idea in his body.

go bowe
04-27-2011, 12:53 AM
a dickrider?

you shouldn't knock it 'til you try it...

or maybe you already know all about it from personal experience?

what kind of name is bil-lay anyway?

oops, i made a rhyme...

at least it's not original... LMAO LMAO LMAO

go bowe
04-27-2011, 12:55 AM
You're a Republican?
no, i just enjoyed the idea of bep hiding under a bed in nebraska...

BucEyedPea
04-27-2011, 06:56 AM
No the guy is just a dickrider without an original idea in his body.
Yup!

go bowe
04-27-2011, 01:35 PM
Yup!
oh honey, you hurt me to the quick... :huh: :huh: :huh:

Inspector
04-27-2011, 01:38 PM
Hey, he has my support!




















Saul that is.

Jaric
04-27-2011, 01:46 PM
oh honey, you hurt me to the quick... :huh: :huh: :huh:

Hell hath no fury...

Donger
04-27-2011, 01:58 PM
Yup!

Quiet, woman. Men are talking.

BucEyedPea
04-27-2011, 03:43 PM
Hell hath no fury...

I just might change my name to honey, ya' know.

Jaric
04-27-2011, 04:21 PM
I just might change my name to honey, ya' know.Ahem...

Quiet, woman. Men are talking.:evil:

Stewie
04-27-2011, 04:39 PM
Why would people NOT want someone like Ron Paul as President? He's trying to bust the balls of the people that put us in this mess. Obama is just a puppet of the greedy because he has no clue about how an economy works.

BucEyedPea
04-27-2011, 04:42 PM
Why would people NOT want someone like Ron Paul as President? He's trying to bust the balls of the people that put us in this mess. Obama is just a puppet of the greedy because he has no clue about how an economy works.

Because he's not enough of a militarist for some that's why.

BucEyedPea
04-27-2011, 04:46 PM
Ahem...

:evil:

Quiet, woman. Men are talking.

Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving.

Donger
04-27-2011, 04:47 PM
Why would people NOT want someone like Ron Paul as President? He's trying to bust the balls of the people that put us in this mess. Obama is just a puppet of the greedy because he has no clue about how an economy works.

Because of his kooky foreign policy views.

BucEyedPea
04-27-2011, 04:48 PM
Because of his kooky foreign policy views.

As I was saying—"not enough of a militarist."

Stewie
04-27-2011, 04:48 PM
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ROFL

BucEyedPea
04-27-2011, 04:50 PM
You could have at least waited 'til I finished editing my typos. :doh!: ;)

Earthling
04-27-2011, 06:10 PM
Paul is doing very well on college campuses with the youth. He's also out raised all Republicans so far.

I like Paul, and maybe he is doing well with the younger crowd, but with all the apparent angst being demonstrated towards the Repubs that voted to repeal Medicare I think he has a major hurdle getting the elderly to vote for him since he has stated he would want to phase it out once elected. I can't see him getting enough votes without the Geritol crowd.

Jaric
04-27-2011, 06:40 PM
Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving.

ARgh!!!1 Makes...head...hurt...

Saul Good
04-27-2011, 07:34 PM
Hey, he has my support!














Saul that is.

Thanks for your support. /shakes hand and kisses baby

Saul: 0
Paul: 0

Saul Good
04-27-2011, 07:34 PM
How much casino cash would it take to get a "Saul for POTUS" ad at the bottom of the page?

Chocolate Hog
04-27-2011, 08:13 PM
How much casino cash would it take to get a "Saul for POTUS" ad at the bottom of the page?

You do enough attention whoring as it is.

BucEyedPea
04-27-2011, 08:20 PM
I like Paul, and maybe he is doing well with the younger crowd, but with all the apparent angst being demonstrated towards the Repubs that voted to repeal Medicare I think he has a major hurdle getting the elderly to vote for him since he has stated he would want to phase it out once elected. I can't see him getting enough votes without the Geritol crowd.

That's just it. He's not going to do that to such programs because, as he has said numerous times, he is opposed to throwing people off programs they've become dependent on. Instead he will cut more of the military and overseas operations. There's a vid of him from 1988 saying just cutting military bases ww we would be able to get rid of the income tax. We have more now. I don't think he's get his way on all that but that's what he would aim for. He says we didn't get the welfare state overnight so it will take a while to roll things back. I think he will try to repeal Obamacare though. He also said in the 2008 primary he'd only cut things to what things were in 2000.

BucEyedPea
04-27-2011, 08:21 PM
How much casino cash would it take to get a "Saul for POTUS" ad at the bottom of the page?

Are you going to hire me to do the graphics? If so, I will not accept casino cash. But I do take American Express, MasterCard and Visa. Just fyi. I like to be upfront in business. ;)

boogblaster
04-27-2011, 08:25 PM
Ron Paul .. my god ...

go bowe
04-27-2011, 08:28 PM
Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving. Contrary to popular belief artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and increase carbohydrate cravings. Also, always drink coffee in the morning before you exercise and limit it to one or two cups even though it is a fruit serving.coffee is a fruit serving?

who knew?

KILLER_CLOWN
04-27-2011, 10:10 PM
Because of his honest foreign policy views.

FYP! ;) You can thank me later.

Jaric
04-28-2011, 06:36 AM
coffee is a fruit serving?

who knew?
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A coffee bean is the seed of the coffee plant (the pit inside the red or purple fruit often referred to as a cherry). Even though they are seeds, they are referred to as 'beans' because of their resemblance. The fruits, coffee cherries or coffee berries, most commonly contain two stones with their flat sides together. In a crop of coffee, a small percentage of cherries contain a single bean, instead of the usual two. This is called a peaberry. Coffee beans consist mostly of endosperm that contains 0.8 - 2.5 % caffeine, which is one of the main reasons the plants are cultivated. As coffee is one of the world's most widely consumed beverages, coffee beans are a major cash crop, and an important export product for some countries. It is considered a regularly consumed beverage in the United States - as popular as soft drinks and even water - and because of the volume consumed, it is there that coffee is highest in demand.

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BucEyedPea
04-28-2011, 07:10 AM
I was wondering if someone would notice my "coffee is a fruit serving." Heh!
So is chocolate. Well the cocoa pod is a fruit, with the cocoa bean being the seed.

"In broad terms, a fruit is a structure of a plant that contains its seeds."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit

I start my day off with two fruit servings daily. Coffee is a health food rich in antioxidants.

Jaric
04-28-2011, 07:52 AM
I was wondering if someone would notice my "coffee is a fruit serving." Heh!
So is chocolate. Well the cocoa pod is a fruit, with the cocoa bean being the seed.

"In broad terms, a fruit is a structure of a plant that contains its seeds."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit

I start my day off with two fruit servings daily. Coffee is a health food rich in antioxidants.

Funny you mention chocolate since the roasting process is very similar to that of coffee.

RJ
04-28-2011, 07:53 AM
Where was he born?

BucEyedPea
04-28-2011, 08:52 AM
Funny you mention chocolate since the roasting process is very similar to that of coffee.
Yes it is. Raw is healthier of course.


I learned about this one night looking at coffee pictures on a stock photo site on my last job. The coffee plant is so pretty. Allegedly it was discovered in Africa or thereabouts, when a goat herder noticed his goats getting frisky after eating the berries off this bush. So he tried them and then Arabs experimented with roasting etc. We owe it to those dirty Sufi Muslim Arabs. Coffee became so valuable that the Europeans tried smuggling it out of the ME which banned it from leaving the area. But the plant didn't grow well in Europe.


http://www.koffeekorner.com/koffeehistory.htm

orange
04-28-2011, 11:33 AM
In a crop of coffee, a small percentage of cherries contain a single bean, instead of the usual two. This is called a peaberry.

There's a local chain of coffee shops here called Peaberry's. I always thought it was someone's name; now I know better.

... And it's all thanks to Ron Paul!

KILLER_CLOWN
04-28-2011, 11:36 AM
Where was he born?

Austria of course. ;)

ClevelandBronco
04-28-2011, 11:37 AM
There's a local chain of coffee shops here called Peaberry's. I always thought it was someone's name; now I know better.

... And it's all thanks to Ron Paul!

Huh. I had no idea that Peaberry was a Colorado company. Now I know better.


... And it's all thanks to Ron Paul!

Donger
04-28-2011, 11:44 AM
Where was he born?

America: The Only Country In The World!

BucEyedPea
04-28-2011, 04:40 PM
America: The Only Country In The World!

I thought only I thought that?

You should have said America and Iran—the only two countries in the world. :p

Jaric
04-28-2011, 04:55 PM
Huh. I had no idea that Peaberry was a Colorado company. Now I know better.


... And it's all thanks to Ron Paul!

All together now:

THANKS RON PAUL!

:thumb: