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philfree
04-25-2011, 10:31 PM
I wish new how to embed this. Bugers me it worked!

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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6402899

PhilFree:arrow:

Von Dumbass
04-25-2011, 10:34 PM
Quicker than Woodley and stronger than Suh.:hump:

philfree
04-25-2011, 10:35 PM
Quicker than Woodley and stronger than Suh.:hump:

To the aids tree forest with you:banghead:

I hope you guys draft Cam Newton.


PhilFree:arrow:

MagicHef
04-25-2011, 11:25 PM
Quicker than Woodley and stronger than Suh.:hump:

And production that doesn't come close to either.

Von Dumbass
04-25-2011, 11:37 PM
And production that doesn't come close to either.

He did play in a 3-4 though. You generally don't see big numbers from 3-4 defensive lineman. If he was utilized the way Fairley was I think he would have more production.

MagicHef
04-26-2011, 12:18 AM
He did play in a 3-4 though. You generally don't see big numbers from 3-4 defensive lineman. If he was utilized the way Fairley was I think he would have more production.

Yes, he would also have to learn a new position. Thanks for pointing that out.

Reaper16
04-26-2011, 12:46 AM
Dareus is a really good player. I'm not pleased at all that he's going to Denver.

DA_T_84
04-26-2011, 12:53 AM
yeah, that's not awesome. (that he's going to Denver).

Hopefully they all run and get ice cream during training camp again, thus ensuring another stellar year of conditioning and injury prevention.

MagicHef
04-26-2011, 01:28 AM
Dareus is a really good player. I'm not pleased at all that he's going to Denver.

Just like all the other players that weren't regarded as highly while they were actually playing football, and shot up the draft boards due to combine performances? I doubt it actually matters though, because I don't think Denver is picking him.

DaKCMan AP
04-26-2011, 06:56 AM
Just like all the other players that weren't regarded as highly while they were actually playing football, and shot up the draft boards due to combine performances? I doubt it actually matters though, because I don't think Denver is picking him.

If you watched SEC football, particularly Bama games, Dareus was very highly regarded.

Nightfyre
04-26-2011, 09:03 AM
I still think he goes 1 overall to the panthers.

Reaper16
04-26-2011, 09:08 AM
Just like all the other players that weren't regarded as highly while they were actually playing football, and shot up the draft boards due to combine performances? I doubt it actually matters though, because I don't think Denver is picking him.
Do you even watch football? Dareus was always a top 10 pick.

MagicHef
04-26-2011, 11:29 AM
Do you even watch football? Dareus was always a top 10 pick.

Sure, but #1 or 2? When football ended, who was ranked higher, Dareus or Fairley?

warrior
04-26-2011, 12:06 PM
I still think he goes 1 overall to the panthers.



This--------Will knowmo slit his wrists. LMAO

MagicHef
04-26-2011, 12:46 PM
This--------Will knowmo slit his wrists. LMAO

Which would be a better meltdown, the Panthers taking him, or the Broncos passing on him if he's there?

Von Dumbass
04-26-2011, 01:11 PM
Which would be a better meltdown, the Panthers taking him, or the Broncos passing on him if he's there?

I won't melt down if the Broncos don't take Dareus or Fairley as long as we wind up with Von Miller or Patrick Peterson.

I want Dareus or Fairley because DT is our biggest need and those guys are extremely good prospects....

MagicHef
04-26-2011, 03:43 PM
I won't melt down if the Broncos don't take Dareus or Fairley as long as we wind up with Von Miller or Patrick Peterson.

I want Dareus or Fairley because is our biggest need and those guys are extremely good prospects....

That's good. What if the Broncos took Green?

Von Dumbass
04-26-2011, 04:54 PM
That's good. What if the Broncos took Green?

Wouldn't be happy with a WR, OT, or a QB.

BossChief
04-26-2011, 09:49 PM
I hope Denver takes Fairley.

For us, thats probably best case scenario.

MagicHef
04-26-2011, 09:53 PM
I won't melt down if the Broncos don't take Dareus or Fairley as long as we wind up with Von Miller or Patrick Peterson.

I want Dareus or Fairley because DT is our biggest need and those guys are extremely good prospects....

Try looking at it this way: if they were available last year, where would they go in relation to other players at their position?

Dareus/Fairley? 3rd at best, behind Suh and McCoy.
Peterson? 1st.
Miller? 1st.

Pestilence
04-26-2011, 10:26 PM
God I hope Carolina takes him.

Von Dumbass
04-26-2011, 10:40 PM
Try looking at it this way: if they were available last year, where would they go in relation to other players at their position?

Dareus/Fairley? 3rd at best, behind Suh and McCoy.
Peterson? 1st.
Miller? 1st.

Those were two of the best DT's to come out in a long time and Suh was a once in a decade type player. Dareus and Fairley would be top 5-10 picks in any draft.

NFL.com gave McCoy an 8.8 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-team-input:den/dt-by-position-input:dl)grade coming out and Suh an 8.7 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-team-input:den/dt-by-position-input:dl) grade. They gave Dareus an 8.6 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-team-input:den/dt-by-position-input:dl) (tied with Peterson and Miller btw) and Fairley an 8.5 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-team-input:den/dt-by-position-input:dl).

Von Dumbass
04-26-2011, 10:42 PM
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After watching this do you still think that Dareus doesn't have the potential to be a dominant DT in the NFL?

MagicHef
04-26-2011, 11:18 PM
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After watching this do you still think that Dareus doesn't have the potential to be a dominant DT in the NFL?

He has the potential to be, I just don't think he will. I think he'll be an average to above-average DT for 5-6 years, or he'll bust completely. As far as NFL.com's ratings, I don't think there are many people that agree with that. I certainly don't. I saw one rating system out of 9 points, Miller and Peterson were both in the 8s, and Dareus was in the 6s. That's closer to what I see.

Look at the rate of busted DTs in the first round. Something like 15 of the 23 DTs taken in the first round over the past decade were busts. What did most of the busts have in common? Crazy measurables with a lack of production. Of course, there were always excuses as to why they didn't produce in college, but then they got to the pros, and everyone was surprised that they didn't produce like they "should."

Reaper16
04-26-2011, 11:23 PM
He has the potential to be, I just don't think he will. I think he'll be an average to above-average DT for 5-6 years, or he'll bust completely. As far as NFL.com's ratings, I don't think there are many people that agree with that. I certainly don't. I saw one rating system out of 9 points, Miller and Peterson were both in the 8s, and Dareus was in the 6s. That's closer to what I see.

Look at the rate of busted DTs in the first round. Something like 15 of the 23 DTs taken in the first round over the past decade were busts. What did most of the busts have in common? Crazy measurables with a lack of production. Of course, there were always excuses as to why they didn't produce in college, but then they got to the pros, and everyone was surprised that they didn't produce like they "should."
What is this myth that Dareus is some kind of workout warrior? I am nearly convinced that you don't watch college football.

Pitt Gorilla
04-26-2011, 11:28 PM
Quicker than Woodley and stronger than Suh.:hump:Are you guys still looking at Mike Mamula?

Ebolapox
04-27-2011, 12:04 AM
marcel dareus just does not scare me. in the least.

MagicHef
04-27-2011, 12:17 AM
What is this myth that Dareus is some kind of workout warrior? I am nearly convinced that you don't watch college football.

I didn't say he was a workout warrior, and perhaps I'm overstating the effect of his predraft performances, but the fact remains that his college production doesn't match what he is expected to do in the NFL. I just don't want the Broncos to reach for need and get themselves their own Tyson Jackson.

DaKCMan AP
04-27-2011, 06:46 AM
What is this myth that Dareus is some kind of workout warrior? I am nearly convinced that you don't watch college football.

It seems like he's never watched Dareus play.

DaKCMan AP
04-27-2011, 06:57 AM
Try looking at it this way: if they were available last year, where would they go in relation to other players at their position?

Dareus/Fairley? 3rd at best, behind Suh and McCoy.
Peterson? 1st.
Miller? 1st.

Peterson would get drafted higher than Haden because of measureables, but Haden will have a better career.