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KILLER_CLOWN
04-25-2011, 11:06 PM
April 25, 2011
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Source: Reason

Lying on his family room floor with assault weapons trained on him, shouts of "pedophile!" and "pornographer!" stinging like his fresh cuts and bruises, the Buffalo homeowner didn't need long to figure out the reason for the early morning wake-up call from a swarm of federal agents.

That new wireless router. He'd gotten fed up trying to set a password. Someone must have used his Internet connection, he thought.

"We know who you are! You downloaded thousands of images at 11:30 last night," the man's lawyer, Barry Covert, recounted the agents saying. They referred to a screen name, "Doldrum."

"No, I didn't," he insisted. "Somebody else could have but I didn't do anything like that."

"You're a creep ... just admit it," they said.

You know where this is going. They got the wrong guy. Someone else had used Covert's wireless connection to download child porn.

Law enforcement officials say the case is a cautionary tale.

It sure is. I can certainly think of some lessons we might draw. One might be: Maybe the cops should check to see if a suspect's wireless network is secure, and therefore that they have the right guy, before they break into his home and point their guns at his head.

Another lesson: Maybe it's not such a good idea to send the SWAT team after someone suspected of downloading—not even manufacturing—child porn in the first place. Are people who download kiddie porn known to be heavily armed?

As you might suspect, these aren't the lessons the police drew from their violent, mistaken raid on Barry Covert. This is:

Their advice: Password-protect your wireless router.

Probably good advice, given that they don't seem particularly concerned about their own mistakes in this case. Not doing so could well get you (or more likely, your dog) killed.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Guy_Gets_SWAT_Team-ed_for_Not_Securing_His_Wireless_Network/13654/0/38/38/Y/M.html

KCBOSS1
04-25-2011, 11:10 PM
$$$$$$$$ coming to this fellow. They would be me.

CrazyPhuD
04-25-2011, 11:21 PM
I just want to know what's wrong with liking high end stereo equipment.

KILLER_CLOWN
04-25-2011, 11:27 PM
LOL p edophile becomes audiophile on CP. Weird.

Bump
04-26-2011, 01:10 AM
I use a wired connection

Amnorix
04-26-2011, 06:05 AM
$$$$$$$$ coming to this fellow. They would be me.

Not as easy as you think.

BigRichard
04-26-2011, 07:38 AM
Did they hit Dane's house again?

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 07:57 AM
Did they hit Dane's house again?

Did you even read the article? They hit his neighbor's house.

Fish
04-26-2011, 08:03 AM
What a terribly written article.

talastan
04-26-2011, 09:19 AM
I would recommend that anyone who has a wi-fi router password protect themselves. Not just for the reason above, but because I hate any idiot that tries to take away any of my bandwidth that I pay for.

BigRichard
04-26-2011, 09:57 AM
Did you even read the article? They hit his neighbor's house.

Sorry, my bad.

chiefsnorth
04-26-2011, 10:05 AM
The government needs to stop acting like an IP address is a person.

That being said, this guy is a moron. He knew it was insecure and made a conscious decision to leave it insecure. If he were an idiot grandpa who had no clue about such things then ok, but he knew full well and assumed the risk of not bothering to secure it.

Like I said, the government should stop acting like IPs and people are one and the same, but it's hard to feel sorry for someone who knowingly created am environment where this kind of activity can take place.

Garcia Bronco
04-26-2011, 10:58 AM
The government needs to stop acting like an IP address is a person.

That being said, this guy is a moron. He knew it was insecure and made a conscious decision to leave it insecure. If he were an idiot grandpa who had no clue about such things then ok, but he knew full well and assumed the risk of not bothering to secure it.

Like I said, the government should stop acting like IPs and people are one and the same, but it's hard to feel sorry for someone who knowingly created am environment where this kind of activity can take place.

There is no law that says you have to secure your wireless network. The police acted stupidly.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 11:14 AM
I'm all for busting child pornography enthusiasts, but is a SWAT team really the best way do go about it?

If people are truly presumed innocent until proven guilty, isn't there. Some duty to apprehend people with as little force as needed without sacrificing the safety of all parties?

Garcia Bronco
04-26-2011, 11:19 AM
I'm all for busting child pornography enthusiasts, but is a SWAT team really the best way do go about it?

If people are truly presumed innocent until proven guilty, isn't there. Some duty to apprehend people with as little force as needed without sacrificing the safety of all parties?

A SWAT team has to justify their existence.

Saul Good
04-26-2011, 11:23 AM
A SWAT team has to justify their existence.

So does the military, I guess.

Can we all agree that the entire notion of being presumed innocent is a fantasy? I'm not saying that we should do things differently, but let's call a spade a spade.

You shouldn't have to pay to get out of jail if you are presumed to be innocent.

Garcia Bronco
04-26-2011, 11:39 AM
So does the military, I guess.

Can we all agree that the entire notion of being presumed innocent is a fantasy? I'm not saying that we should do things differently, but let's call a spade a spade.

You shouldn't have to pay to get out of jail if you are presumed to be innocent.

I agree. It'll all come crashing down one day.

heapshake
04-26-2011, 09:00 PM
"We know who you are! You downloaded thousands of images at 11:30 last night," the man's lawyer, Barry Covert, recounted the agents saying.


Someone else had used Covert's wireless connection to download child porn.


So is Covert the lawyer or the victim?