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SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:05 PM
Hochaver on the mound tonight

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:06 PM
Avieles leading off

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 06:06 PM
Anxious to see what kind of movement Hoch has on his facepalm ball tonight.

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 06:07 PM
Evilas thinks he's Ruth now

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 06:09 PM
Com'on 19

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:14 PM
Hochhaver gives up a leadoff double

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:16 PM
That fucking drum is annoying

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:22 PM
Smart play by Kila


After 1 1-0 Indians

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 06:25 PM
Are they hollering at Billay?

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 06:28 PM
Inning Kila.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:34 PM
Good inning for Hoch

After 2 1-0 Indians

keg in kc
04-26-2011, 06:35 PM
I don't think the bleeding's going to stop tonight.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:39 PM
Masterson perfect thru 3

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 06:40 PM
How in the fuck is Betemit not playing?

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-26-2011, 06:41 PM
Masterson has a

PERFECT GAME so far


(channeling the BCD jinx from last week :p)

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 06:47 PM
HR, hit batter...time to balk him around.

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 06:47 PM
That's the first time I have seen Kila put a tag on a player

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:48 PM
It looks like a bad call, but Jason Kendall can still go die in an Aids fire

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:48 PM
Thru 3 2-0 Indians

petegz28
04-26-2011, 06:49 PM
How in the fuck is Betemit not playing?

I dont get it at all. Why do you sit one of your best hitters to keep in one of your worst?

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 06:50 PM
I gave up wondering after complaining the first 15 games when Betemit was held out. My guess his attitude clashes with Yost. Only thing I can come up with

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:52 PM
Allright Alex, lets extend that streak here

jbwm89
04-26-2011, 06:53 PM
19 games baby

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:54 PM
Nice

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:54 PM
Drive him home billay and tie this game up

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:54 PM
BIILLLLAAAYYY

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:56 PM
Come on Frenchy, extend your streak and lets take the lead

jbwm89
04-26-2011, 06:56 PM
The idea of Gordon-Butler-Hosmer-Moose in the middle of our order makes me want to cream my pants.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-26-2011, 06:56 PM
Run Billay

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 06:57 PM
Billay better sit on the base and take a breather

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 06:57 PM
:( at Biilllaaayy's lack of athleticism.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:57 PM
Good job Frenchy


Now Kila, do anything but hit into a DP

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-26-2011, 06:58 PM
Rally Kilah

SPchief
04-26-2011, 06:59 PM
:banghead:

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 06:59 PM
Inning Kila.

kcchiefsus
04-26-2011, 06:59 PM
God Damnit Kila I fucking hate you.

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 06:59 PM
Kila with the full on suck.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 06:59 PM
Hope Kila.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 06:59 PM
Thanks for nothing, kila

eazyb81
04-26-2011, 07:00 PM
BUT HE HAS A HIGH MINOR LEAGUE OBP!!!

HE CAN'T FAIL

Three7s
04-26-2011, 07:00 PM
God, Kila is so useless. Does anyone even care about how bad Clint Robinson's defense is? Just get him the hell up here so I don't have to see Kila looking like a loser at the plate.

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 07:03 PM
Nice play Getz, and Escobar

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 07:06 PM
Escobar is friggin unreal

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:06 PM
HOLY SHIT

Saulbadguy
04-26-2011, 07:06 PM
whoa

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:06 PM
After 4 2-2

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 07:09 PM
what would you do for an es-co-bar?

CoMoChief
04-26-2011, 07:16 PM
what would you do for an es-co-bar?

I'd go slaughter some puppies in front of a buncha children.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:18 PM
Bad mistake

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 07:18 PM
And Luke shows us why he should have been a tenth round pick. This guy has nothing to offer as a major league pitcher.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 07:18 PM
When was the last time we led in a game?

yhf
04-26-2011, 07:19 PM
Ferchrissakes Hoch!

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-26-2011, 07:19 PM
Hoch pitching BP right now

:banghead:

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:19 PM
Left another one up

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 07:20 PM
Going to wait another 2 innings before someone goes and talks to him?

petegz28
04-26-2011, 07:20 PM
Jfc, hochevar, you suck!

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:20 PM
And Luke shows us why he should have been a tenth round pick. This guy has nothing to offer as a major league pitcher.

We hate him because of where he was selected and what we passed on to do it (Longoria), but he's a viable #5.

aaaannnnnddd...he gives up another. Fuck me.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 07:21 PM
Welcome to our 4 game losing streak.....2 fucking homeruns to the #9 hitter. Fucking sad

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 07:22 PM
Luke getting crushed....

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:22 PM
damn

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-26-2011, 07:22 PM
Jesus Fuck

Get him out of there already

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 07:23 PM
Gotta let him twist in the wind for awhile like last game he pitched

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:24 PM
Yost must think Hoch is the biggest pussy in baseball.

GloryDayz
04-26-2011, 07:24 PM
So does kicking the wall when you've shown you're afraid of it, really mean anything? Are the Royals fading back to their old "awe shucks" ways? This is getting old!

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:24 PM
Hey Treanor, you might want to go clam him down

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:25 PM
Treanor is officially the most worthless POS on the roster.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:26 PM
wtf

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 07:26 PM
It has to be purposeful that noone goes out to talk to him

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:27 PM
Damn. Close.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:27 PM
Got fucked.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 07:27 PM
Looked out to me

Three7s
04-26-2011, 07:27 PM
Treanor is officially the most worthless POS on the roster.
Funny, everyone was calling him one of the great Moore pickups of the off-season a week ago. How things change so quickly.

I guess we all want Kendall back now too, right?

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-26-2011, 07:27 PM
Looks like he was out

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:28 PM
BS

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 07:28 PM
the only thing Hoch hasn't done tonight is ball up into the fetal position

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 07:29 PM
Dude pounding that damn drum ain't even an Injun. Scalp his ass so he shut's the damn thing up

yhf
04-26-2011, 07:29 PM
Is McClure a shit pitching coach maybe? Not that I really think much of Hoch or Davies but here are two guys that supposedly can throw good pitches but both of em suck at pitching. I imagine the reality is that they are both weak minded flakes but hating them has grown stale. McClure seems like the next guy to blame.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:30 PM
Funny, everyone was calling him one of the great Moore pickups of the off-season a week ago. How things change so quickly.

I guess we all want Kendall back now too, right?

Who is everybody? Nothing has changed so quickly.

Pena should be starting. When Treanor was signed, Rany posted that it seemed to be Moore's duty to downgrade the catcher position whenever possible. And referencing one of the worst signings in recent memory doesn't help the cause.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:31 PM
damn close

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:32 PM
There we go

After 5 4-2 Indians

Three7s
04-26-2011, 07:33 PM
Who is everybody? Nothing has changed so quickly.

Pena should be starting. When Treanor was signed, Rany posted that it seemed to be Moore's duty to downgrade the catcher position whenever possible. And referencing one of the worst signings in recent memory doesn't help the cause.
You may think that, but anyone that followed the GDTs for the first 2 weeks would find quite a few posts about liking Treanor and that Kendall should never come back.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 07:33 PM
30+ innings since we have led in a game.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:34 PM
Funny, everyone was calling him one of the great Moore pickups of the off-season a week ago. How things change so quickly.

I guess we all want Kendall back now too, right?

A couple of weeks ago, I was saying this:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7561517&postcount=84

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 07:35 PM
got Melk?

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:35 PM
Melky Homers

Saulbadguy
04-26-2011, 07:35 PM
"nobody's homered"

Home run.

Creepy.

milkman
04-26-2011, 07:36 PM
Made up for that crap play in the outfield.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:36 PM
You may think that, but anyone that followed the GDTs for the first 2 weeks would find quite a few posts about liking Treanor and that Kendall should never come back.

Of course Kendall shouldn't come back, and I don't give a fuck what people who don't know much about baseball said about Treanor.

He is and always has been a broke-dick.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:36 PM
That ball was hit hard. Keep it up, boys.

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 07:36 PM
Gordon got Gordonized

milkman
04-26-2011, 07:38 PM
Shouldn't the answer to the trivia question be an easy one?

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:38 PM
This will probably be Mastersons last inning, we need to get on him.

sedated
04-26-2011, 07:39 PM
Is McClure a shit pitching coach maybe? Not that I really think much of Hoch or Davies but here are two guys that supposedly can throw good pitches but both of em suck at pitching. I imagine the reality is that they are both weak minded flakes but hating them has grown stale. McClure seems like the next guy to blame.

McClure has made chicken salad out of chickensh!t more times that royals fans can count. Every team has busts - Hoch was regarded as a sh!tty pick from day 1, and Davies is only here because the Braves gave up on him and wanted to get something in return. We've had sh!tty talent forever, and McClure has worked more miracles than has had busts. He is not the problem IMHO.

Chen is solid. Grienke became a Cy Young winner under McClure. Meche was good until his arm fell off. Bannister was unexpectably solid for a while. And there are numerous bullpen guys that have produced while here and earned themselves good paychecks in the next city.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 07:39 PM
Guess billy felt bad that masterson didnt get the call?

SPchief
04-26-2011, 07:45 PM
After 6 4-3 Indians

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 07:47 PM
Kila 0-2
Escobar 0-2
Traenor 0-2

Not exactly Murder'ers Row Got to be one of the biggest problems with this team right now

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:49 PM
Escobar has looked great in the field, but we'll need to make sure that he can bat around .250ish.

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 07:50 PM
Think you can have a non hitting shortstop OR a non hitting catcher, but not both

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 07:50 PM
Catcher defense = ridiculously overrated. The catcher needs to hit.

alnorth
04-26-2011, 07:51 PM
Escobar has looked great in the field, but we'll need to make sure that he can bat around .250ish.

yeah. I'm willing to see him get a lot of outs at the plate, but he's GOT to at least be better than .225.

Small sample size though, for all we know he might look like good by August.

yhf
04-26-2011, 07:51 PM
McClure has made chicken salad out of chickensh!t more times that royals fans can count. Every team has busts - Hoch was regarded as a sh!tty pick from day 1, and Davies is only here because the Braves gave up on him and wanted to get something in return. We've had sh!tty talent forever, and McClure has worked more miracles than has had busts. He is not the problem IMHO.

Chen is solid. Grienke became a Cy Young winner under McClure. Meche was good until his arm fell off. Bannister was unexpectably solid for a while. And there are numerous bullpen guys that have produced while here and earned themselves good paychecks in the next city.

In all candor I believe you are absolutely right. The chickenshit that is Hoch is just so damned frustrating to deal with it makes me wanna lash out. McClure is an easy but undeserving target.

alnorth
04-26-2011, 07:51 PM
Treanor, my Kendall-hatred is beginning to fade.

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 07:54 PM
It looks like Escobar has the tools to be a decent hitter. Maybe it's just his youth. He has a nice looking swing but seems to lunge at pitches that aren't even close

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 07:55 PM
Treanor is making Kendall look like Tony Gwynn. Kendall batted .256 last year. How do you quantify throwing a couple guys out here and there?

yhf
04-26-2011, 07:57 PM
dammit getz

petegz28
04-26-2011, 07:58 PM
Swungbat ball 4

milkman
04-26-2011, 07:59 PM
Not all that impressed with Getz.

Is there anything in the pipeline at 2nd base?

milkman
04-26-2011, 08:00 PM
And who have they got as a potential LO hitter in the pipeline?

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:00 PM
Not all that impressed with Getz.

Is there anything in the pipeline at 2nd base?

Colon.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:01 PM
And who have they got as a potential LO hitter in the pipeline?

Cain.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:03 PM
#9 hitter with 3 hits

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:04 PM
nice pitch

Three7s
04-26-2011, 08:05 PM
Not all that impressed with Getz.

Is there anything in the pipeline at 2nd base?
Getz's problem is he's retarded. Against a lefty, it should be obvious that the outside part of the plate is where you look to try and go the other way. It looked like he was trying to get something down the middle to kill it.

He's a joke at the plate.

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:05 PM
Hochevar should throw 120 pitches every outing.. blow his arm out, he is not in the future plans for this franchise (if they want to win).

58-4ever
04-26-2011, 08:05 PM
Time to pull the string Ned

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:06 PM
Hochevar should throw 120 pitches every outing.. blow his arm out, he is not in the future plans for this franchise (if they want to win).

He went 97 pitches? :spock:

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
Louis Coleman in

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
:facepalm:

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
Louis Coleman gives up 3 run homer

AndChiefs
04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
Well there goes the game.

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
And Coleman gives up a first pitch gopher ball

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
Louis Coleman in

Ball, out.

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
welp

He's a good hitter. I wont condemn Coleman on just one pitch. We'll see how many homers he gives up the rest of the year.

sedated
04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
Hopefully the young arms can move Hoch to the bullpen. His sinker could be an asset there.

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 08:09 PM
Nice to see Coleman fitting right in.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:09 PM
Game




Over

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 08:09 PM
Ball, out.

lawlz

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:09 PM
Hoch needs to have his arm completely blown up. I hate him and I want him gone, he gives us no chance to win.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:10 PM
4 game losing streak

Havent had the lead in almost 4 games



We suck again

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:12 PM
I got banned from Royals corner for talking about the Royals lack of power and what do ya know... the Royals give up a bunch more homers today... doubles ain't power.. that's slap hitting 70's baseball. Three run home runs are power, the Royals don't believe in up to date baseball.

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:12 PM
4 game losing streak

Havent had the lead in almost 4 games



We suck again

we're finally regressing to our mean.

On the bright side, our hot start may prevent a 100-loss season. Help is on the way!

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:12 PM
Over 400 career innings and an ERA of 5.56.

Let him be a #5 and call it good. And always be looking to upgrade his spot.

Demonpenz
04-26-2011, 08:12 PM
Kendell back in the picture

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:12 PM
Silver lining.....detroit is losing along with the sox

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:13 PM
I got banned from Royals corner for talking about the Royals lack of power and what do ya know... the Royals give up a bunch more homers today... doubles ain't power.. that's slap hitting 70's baseball. Three run home runs are power, the Royals don't believe in up to date baseball.

Saying "the Royals dont believe in power" is just really silly. Every team wants power. Its not like you can go to the local Dollar Store and buy 3 sluggers with decent OBP's.

Our power is in the minor leagues.

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:14 PM
Saying "the Royals dont believe in power" is just really silly. Every team wants power. Its not like you can go to the local Dollar Store and buy 3 sluggers with decent OBP's.

Our power is in the minor leagues.

This franchise has never believed in power. They draft doubles guys and sinker ballers who give up long home runs.

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:15 PM
This franchise has never believed in power. They draft doubles guys and sinker ballers who give up long home runs.

I can see why you were banned.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:15 PM
lets do this

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:17 PM
I can see why you were banned.

I watch Luke Hochevar and he epitomizes the pitchers we have drafted up to this point.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:18 PM
Aviles with a 7 game hitting streak

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:20 PM
God, I hate the wave. Every time I see it, I despise it.

They are thinking "yawn, I'm bored, ooh a wave, here it comes, weeee! Wow, look at what we accomplished". I'm thinking "If you are that damned bored, get out of the ballpark, dumbass."

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:20 PM
Good AB by Melky

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:21 PM
Saying "the Royals dont believe in power" is just really silly. Every team wants power. Its not like you can go to the local Dollar Store and buy 3 sluggers with decent OBP's.

Our power is in the minor leagues.

We have heard that for 25 years

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 08:21 PM
Come on Alex, load 'em up for Billay The Bum

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 08:21 PM
If we can just get to rally Kila...

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 08:22 PM
I just witnessed a theft

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:23 PM
If we can just get to rally Kila...

If we can get to Kila, I'll be happy

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:23 PM
Come on Billay!

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 08:24 PM
lets all rub our Billys for good luck

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 08:24 PM
The kid from the State School is coming in to pitch

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:24 PM
Billy k's
Frenchy hits into a dp

Inning over, no runs scored

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 08:26 PM
Cabrera cubed.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:26 PM
Just saw three Cabreras talking

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:26 PM
We have heard that for 25 years

for many of those years we were led by drooling retards.

I'm sorry, but if you believe that if the Royals knew for sure the last few years they could either draft a .875 OPS 35-home run hitter or a .900 OPS 10-home run hitter, that they would draft the latter, you are being silly.

Every team wants a good slugger who isn't an automatic sell-out strikeout. It is very damned hard to find that slugger when they are 18 or 20 years old.

Thus, to say "the Royals don't believe in power" is completely stupid, and ignores Occam's Razor which would suggest instead that they were either too unlucky or too stupid to identify these sluggers.

Aside from that, this dumb "Royals dont believe in Sluggers" theory would have to completely ignore Wil Myers and Hosmer. Why were THEY drafted?

yhf
04-26-2011, 08:27 PM
piss

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:27 PM
Come on Frenchy

Brianfo
04-26-2011, 08:27 PM
OVERRATED!!

Bambi
04-26-2011, 08:27 PM
Billy Butler is so fucking overrated.

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:28 PM
Royals power...... pop up to second base.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:28 PM
Bases loaded 0 outs.....we will get no runs

Brianfo
04-26-2011, 08:28 PM
Billy Butler is so ****ing overrated.

10-4

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 08:29 PM
jesus christ on a cracker

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:29 PM
Allright Kila, prove me wrong

AndChiefs
04-26-2011, 08:29 PM
If Kaiihue hits a homer here I will forgive him for all his suckiness so far.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:29 PM
Wtf ump?

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:29 PM
BS

AndChiefs
04-26-2011, 08:30 PM
Alright cut Kila.

Bambi
04-26-2011, 08:30 PM
What a joke.

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 08:30 PM
Inning Kila.

siberian khatru
04-26-2011, 08:30 PM
:doh!:

yhf
04-26-2011, 08:30 PM
pissdamnshitbastardassworthlesssonofabitch

Blankey
04-26-2011, 08:30 PM
Patented Royals fail

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:31 PM
for many of those years we were led by drooling retards.

I'm sorry, but if you believe that if the Royals knew for sure the last few years they could either draft a .875 OPS 35-home run hitter or a .900 OPS 10-home run hitter, that they would draft the latter, you are being silly.

Every team wants a good slugger who isn't an automatic sell-out strikeout. It is very damned hard to find that slugger when they are 18 or 20 years old.

Thus, to say "the Royals don't believe in power" is completely stupid, and ignores Occam's Razor which would suggest instead that they were either too unlucky or too stupid to identify these sluggers.

Aside from that, this dumb "Royals dont believe in Sluggers" theory would have to completely ignore Wil Myers and Hosmer. Why were THEY drafted?

Bases loaded.. no outs.. our "power hitter" pops up to second base.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:31 PM
You are fucking kdding me! We were set to get right back in it and totally choked

sedated
04-26-2011, 08:31 PM
I'd say I've seen about 50 bases-loaded-no-outs situations for the Royals over the last several years, and we seem to get nothing out of it 3-times more than we get anything out of it.

Brianfo
04-26-2011, 08:31 PM
Royals baseball. Gotta love it. Where are all the Billy Butler lovers?? Not impressed.

BigMeatballDave
04-26-2011, 08:31 PM
The other shoe is about to drop...

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 08:32 PM
NO WALKS Collins

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 08:32 PM
Bandwagon Kila.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:33 PM
Royals baseball. Gotta love it. Where are all the Billy Butler lovers?? Not impressed.

Butler has had a rough couple of games recently, but he's the least of our problems.

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:34 PM
Bases loaded.. no outs.. our "power hitter" pops up to second base.

You are being dumb. About as dumb as the Royals in their futile pursuit of a power hitter during the drafts in the 90's.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:35 PM
You are being dumb. About as dumb as the Royals in their futile pursuit of a power hitter during the drafts in the 90's.

How many times in the last 4 games have we had runners on with 0 outs and then proceeded to not even get the ball out of the infield?

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 08:35 PM
Friggin walk

RockChalk
04-26-2011, 08:36 PM
Brutal showing by our 4, 5 and 6 guys there. Butler is almost an automatic fail in bases load situations for whatever reason. He gets up there and just swings at anything near the plate.

Bambi
04-26-2011, 08:37 PM
Collins is a side show act.

Crow seems alright. But this guy sucks.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:37 PM
Well, It might be soon that'll just be me Alnorth, Deez, and a couple of others posting in the gamethreads.

Brianfo
04-26-2011, 08:37 PM
Butler has had a rough couple of games recently, but he's the least of our problems.

Not trying to pick a fight. I am just not impressed with Billy. Highest paid player on our team that is unathletic, a liability in the field and no power. Hope like hell that Hosmer pans out so we can trade Billy for more pieces.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:37 PM
oh, and pete

Reerun_KC
04-26-2011, 08:38 PM
Their bbbbbbaaaaaaaaccccccckkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome to Royals baseball, gotta love these guys...

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:38 PM
How many times in the last 4 games have we had runners on with 0 outs and then proceeded to not even get the ball out of the infield?

And this has absolutely nothing to do with the larger point that alnorth is making.

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 08:39 PM
this is getting old

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:39 PM
And another homerun given up for good measure

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:39 PM
Not trying to pick a fight. I am just not impressed with Billy. Highest paid player on our team that is unathletic, a liability in the field and no power. Hope like hell that Hosmer pans out so we can trade Billy for more pieces.

It might be that he's traded eventually, because he certainly doesn't have a future in the field. However, his salary and ability at the plate are pretty much consistent with each other.

It's just frustrating right now because of the numerous other holes in the lineup.

And fucking shit, Collins.

Brianfo
04-26-2011, 08:39 PM
Fun while it lasted. Me thinks we got 0 for road trip.

Bambi
04-26-2011, 08:40 PM
Not trying to pick a fight. I am just not impressed with Billy. Highest paid player on our team that is unathletic, a liability in the field and no power. Hope like hell that Hosmer pans out so we can trade Billy for more pieces.

You're not getting anything for a guy who can't run, plays a substandard 1B, and hits for no power.

HR off Collins by the way.

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:40 PM
Butler in 2011: .316/.438/.443, 153 OPS+

If you are complaining about that, you need to take a deep breath, calm yourself down, and realize that this is not football.

In the game of major league baseball, we play 162 games, the game is EXTREMELY random, and "clutch hitting" is about as real as the tooth fairy.

Hypothetically speaking, every time a hitter comes up you are rolling one of those nerdy D&D-ish 100-sided die, and the results on the faces of those die are weighted differently based on how good the hitter is and how good the pitcher they are facing is. But, every hitter, EVERY HITTER, no matter how terrible the pitcher is, and no matter how good or how allegedly "clutch" they are, is capable of striking out in the 9th inning of game 7 in the world series.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:40 PM
And this has absolutely nothing to do with the larger point that alnorth is making.

It's hard to make his point when we hear the same stuff year after year for 2 1/2 decades is all I am saying.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:41 PM
You're not getting anything for a guy who can't run, plays a substandard 1B, and hits for no power.

HR off Collins by the way.

Most similar batters by age:

1. John Olerud (954)
2. Kent Hrbek (942)
3. Nick Markakis (922)
4. Chet Lemon (915)
5. Carlos May (912)
6. Delmon Young (912)
7. Carl Yastrzemski (911) *
8. Ellis Valentine (910)
9. Tony Horton (910)
10. Keith Hernandez (909)

But you're right; Butler is worth a bag of fucking balls.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/butlebi03.shtml

Brianfo
04-26-2011, 08:42 PM
You're not getting anything for a guy who can't run, plays a substandard 1B, and hits for no power.

HR off Collins by the way.

Why did the Royals rush to sign this guy long term with that contract to DH??

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:42 PM
It's hard to make his point when we hear the same stuff year after year for 2 1/2 decades is all I am saying.

I agree that it's been frustrating as hell to be a Royals fan. It would take a fool to argue otherwise.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:43 PM
Why did the Royals rush to sign this guy long term with that contract to DH??

Because he's a really good hitter.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:44 PM
Why did the Royals rush to sign this guy long term with that contract to DH??

:spock:

Brianfo
04-26-2011, 08:45 PM
Because he's a really good hitter.

Agree to disagree. Just don't think a franchise like the Royals should tie up that much money on a career DH.

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:45 PM
I'm a little down on Billy for his performance as of late. I know or hope he will come back around and is just in a slump but the last 4 games he has not been what we expect.

Bambi
04-26-2011, 08:46 PM
Butler in 2011: .316/.438/.443, 153 OPS+

If you are complaining about that, you need to take a deep breath, calm yourself down, and realize that this is not football.

In the game of major league baseball, we play 162 games, the game is EXTREMELY random, and "clutch hitting" is about as real as the tooth fairy.

Hypothetically speaking, every time a hitter comes up you are rolling one of those nerdy D&D-ish 100-sided die, and the results on the faces of those die are weighted differently based on how good the hitter is and how good the pitcher they are facing is. But, every hitter, EVERY HITTER, no matter how terrible the pitcher is, and no matter how good or how allegedly "clutch" they are, is capable of striking out in the 9th inning of game 7 in the world series.

I respectfully disagree.

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:46 PM
Why did the Royals rush to sign this guy long term with that contract to DH??

I would not have offered the contract. I'm guessing the Royals needed a "Face of the franchise" and some assurance they would keep someone after trading Greinke.

There could be some subtle indirect benefit to the business from "keeping Butler" that helps beyond what could be explained by his performance (good though it may be, but limited by his lack of defense). If you are a "face of the franchise", you should expect some sort of premium for assuming that duty.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:47 PM
Treanor gets a hit!

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 08:47 PM
0-21 streak ended

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 08:47 PM
person in the stands wearing a powder blue Bo Jackson jersey, nice

alnorth
04-26-2011, 08:47 PM
I respectfully disagree.

Fine.

You are wrong, and the body of evidence supports my view. If you wish to ignore his stats and go by your gut, I have no answer to that.

RockChalk
04-26-2011, 08:49 PM
Because he's a really good hitter.

He's a great hitter.

I think what most people are frustrated with is that he never seems to get the "big" hit. Take tonight for example. Bases loaded, no outs and he just comes up with zero discipline, swinging at the first two pitches he saw. It seems like when he knows we need him to do something, he loses what makes him a great hitter.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:49 PM
We're talking about Butler's contract like it's big. He's making $3M this year and $8M each of the following three years, with a team option in 2015.

This isn't "face of the franchise" money. If it is, the Royals are and will remain a fucking joke.

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:49 PM
Butler in 2011: .316/.438/.443, 153 OPS+

If you are complaining about that, you need to take a deep breath, calm yourself down, and realize that this is not football.

In the game of major league baseball, we play 162 games, the game is EXTREMELY random, and "clutch hitting" is about as real as the tooth fairy.

Hypothetically speaking, every time a hitter comes up you are rolling one of those nerdy D&D-ish 100-sided die, and the results on the faces of those die are weighted differently based on how good the hitter is and how good the pitcher they are facing is. But, every hitter, EVERY HITTER, no matter how terrible the pitcher is, and no matter how good or how allegedly "clutch" they are, is capable of striking out in the 9th inning of game 7 in the world series.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6396/billy-butler

Looks like 2 home runs for the season... he is a slap doubles hitter that is all.

Bambi
04-26-2011, 08:50 PM
Most similar batters by age:

1. John Olerud (954)
2. Kent Hrbek (942)
3. Nick Markakis (922)
4. Chet Lemon (915)
5. Carlos May (912)
6. Delmon Young (912)
7. Carl Yastrzemski (911) *
8. Ellis Valentine (910)
9. Tony Horton (910)
10. Keith Hernandez (909)

But you're right; Butler is worth a bag of ****ing balls.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/butlebi03.shtml

Lots of gold gloves on that list.

If Billy was Keith Hernandez in the field then he'd be worth so much more in a trade.

Who do you really think is out there who wants a full time DH who doesn't hit more than 20 HRs or drives in 100??

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:51 PM
http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6396/billy-butler

Looks like 2 home runs for the season... he is a slap doubles hitter that is all.

He's slugging .456, so power isn't solely defined by HRs. Do I want them? Fuck yes, but Butler is a very, very solid hitter.

KCUnited
04-26-2011, 08:52 PM
Cabrera^3

Bambi
04-26-2011, 08:53 PM
Fine.

You are wrong, and the body of evidence supports my view. If you wish to ignore his stats and go by your gut, I have no answer to that.

What stats??

A guy who hits doubles and nothing else??

I think you need to take a look at some of the other DHs around baseball.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:53 PM
You gotta swing at that Alex

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:53 PM
Cut Gordon.

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:54 PM
He's slugging .456, so power isn't solely defined by HRs. Do I want them? **** yes, but Butler is a very, very solid hitter.

Slap doubles hitter. Even more noticeable tonight when he actually tried to hit for power and popped it straight up.

SPchief
04-26-2011, 08:54 PM
damn

petegz28
04-26-2011, 08:54 PM
can we get at least 1 win this trip?

Archie F. Swin
04-26-2011, 08:54 PM
shit shoe chew

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:54 PM
Damn nice play by Choo.

stonedstooge
04-26-2011, 08:54 PM
Not much positive to take out of this game. Got to get more than one facet of the game going. Good defensive will not win games when the pitching is substandard along with the hitting

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:55 PM
Slap doubles hitter. Even more noticeable tonight when he actually tried to hit for power and popped it straight up.

Dude, there's nothing "slap" about Butler's approach at the plate.

DeezNutz
04-26-2011, 08:56 PM
Not much positive to take out of this game.

Unless you started Masterson on your fantasy team. :evil:

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 08:56 PM
Dude, there's nothing "slap" about Butler's approach at the plate.

More of a "pop up" approach... you saw what happened when he tried to actually drive the ball.

RockChalk
04-26-2011, 08:57 PM
Collins ERA now up to 5.54

He seems to be getting a little worse each outing

Bambi
04-26-2011, 08:58 PM
Might as well try this Robinson guy out.

Get freaking Kila outta here.

Bambi
04-26-2011, 08:59 PM
Collins ERA now up to 5.54

He seems to be getting a little worse each outing

Yeah. He's a gimmick pitcher. At least he helped the franchise get out to a quick start in 2011.

Crow seems good for the long haul though.

Bambi
04-26-2011, 09:00 PM
Arod up- 2 on and 1 out in bottom of 9th. Down by 1 to the White Sox

Bambi
04-26-2011, 09:03 PM
omg, lillybridge!

alnorth
04-26-2011, 09:03 PM
http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6396/billy-butler

Looks like 2 home runs for the season... he is a slap doubles hitter that is all.

point where I made the argument that Butler is a home-run hitter. Maybe he'll become one, but he is not. Regardless, he is an extremely good, very productive hitter. On most teams he'd be a solid #5 or #6 hitter. To criticize him for being what he is not is silly, but he is NOT a bad hitter. If we had a good slugger hitting behind Gordon and in front of Butler, you'd be praising Butler!

Why? Why would the presence of a slugger make you appreciate Butler more? Is that not dumb?

You were the one who made the stupid proclamation that the Royals "dont believe in Power". On its face, that is silly because reliable power hitters who are not inning-killing strikeout machines are very rare.

Your unproven silly assertion is about the same as if I said a certain mutual fund manager "didn't believe in profits" because he lost money in the last 5 years. Its not that he simply wasn't good enough to figure out what to invest in (similar to our front office's failure to draft well), no, obviously that couldn't be it, he must not believe in profits. (ie our front office idiotically doesn't believe in power, that is so much easier to believe than the thought that they failed to find it) He's a lazy bum who wants to steal money from investors for fees until no one is willing to invest in his fund, yeah thats it!

Sounds outlandish? Its about as likely as the silly thought that the Royals don't believe in power!

BigMeatballDave
04-26-2011, 09:04 PM
I'm ready for Hosmer.

thurman merman
04-26-2011, 09:10 PM
Sweet turd sandwich, this team sucks.

GloryDayz
04-26-2011, 09:24 PM
Dang, and I was hoping to take the family back out to the K... I might have to wait a little longer...

Dartgod
04-26-2011, 09:59 PM
Who in the fuck are all these trolls that never posted in the Royals threads when we got off to a good start? Now that we're slumping, the floodgates open with these morons.

Demonpenz
04-26-2011, 10:00 PM
sucks...but oh well. Frenchy swang through that homerun ball

PunkinDrublic
04-26-2011, 10:02 PM
At least the other teams in the division lost. Except the twinkies game got ppd.

BWillie
04-26-2011, 10:04 PM
Royals are only 3 games away from being the worst team in baseball. Nobody is doing really bad just yet. The pain is coming folks. We have by far the worst starting pitching staff in the majors. And yes, I've been saying this all year.

GloryDayz
04-26-2011, 10:05 PM
Who in the **** are all these trolls that never posted in the Royals threads when we got off to a good start? Now that we're slumping, the floodgates open with these morons.

Do your research (if you're talking about me). I've been a doubter for a while, posted as such, took crap for it, cam back and ate crow, then they lose all these in a row (starting the day I ate crow). Troll or not, as with the previous um-teen years, they seem to be the same old Royals. I hope I'm wrong. I want to take the family to the K and think we have a better than 50/50 chance of winning, and not be happy with buck-night and fireworks. The Royals need to know that 4-game-loss stretches are going to not only hurt their record, but send their bright-eyed fans packing...

Great Expectations
04-26-2011, 10:40 PM
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/billy-butlers-extension-and-future/

Reaper16
04-26-2011, 11:15 PM
Why are so many of you guys really stupid? I can't even click into a gamethread anymore without encountering dozens upon dozens of staggeringly dumb posts.

Demonpenz
04-26-2011, 11:16 PM
As the Marlins danced beneath an explosion of lights and fireworks, a heartbroken Kevin Seitzer, wedged alone in the darkest corner of the loser’s dugout, hatched a diabolical plan for World Series victory: to create an entire lineup of Kevin Seitzers. And so it began . . .

— CHAPTER 1 —
– BILLY BUTLER –

SPchief
04-26-2011, 11:16 PM
Why are so many of you guys really stupid? I can't even click into a gamethread anymore without encountering dozens upon dozens of staggeringly dumb posts.

They'll be done posting in gamethreads by july

Al Bundy
04-26-2011, 11:50 PM
I am always in these threads if I am home. Watching other teams blasting the ball out of the park while we employ the 70's method of slap hitting is frustrating. Bill Butler is the worst of them all.

alnorth
04-26-2011, 11:58 PM
I am always in these threads if I am home. Watching other teams blasting the ball out of the park while we employ the 70's method of slap hitting is frustrating. Bill Butler is the worst of them all.

Because, clearly, the Royals didn't want those power hitters. They were available way back when they were 18-19 yrs old, and everyone knew they would turn out to be power hitters, but no, those royals turned down those sure things. (except moustakas, hosmer, and myers, ignore those guys, they inconveniently spoil the "royals dont believe in power" theory)

Al Bundy
04-27-2011, 12:25 AM
Because, clearly, the Royals didn't want those power hitters. They were available way back when they were 18-19 yrs old, and everyone knew they would turn out to be power hitters, but no, those royals turned down those sure things. (except moustakas, hosmer, and myers, ignore those guys, they inconveniently spoil the "royals dont believe in power" theory)

All in the minors. I don't believe any of it until they are mashing in the majors, not slap hitting, but hitting 30 home runs.

Dartgod
04-27-2011, 07:44 AM
Do your research (if you're talking about me). I've been a doubter for a while, posted as such, took crap for it, cam back and ate crow, then they lose all these in a row (starting the day I ate crow). Troll or not, as with the previous um-teen years, they seem to be the same old Royals. I hope I'm wrong. I want to take the family to the K and think we have a better than 50/50 chance of winning, and not be happy with buck-night and fireworks. The Royals need to know that 4-game-loss stretches are going to not only hurt their record, but send their bright-eyed fans packing...
If you've been posting all along, then was clearly not talking about you.
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