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ChiefsandO'sfan
04-27-2011, 01:43 PM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
by ArrowheadPride
@ @OsCz I don't think the #Redskins move up...not enough amo...hearing they could move down to the #Rams or #Chiefs pick #NFLDRAFT

chiefsnorth
04-27-2011, 01:43 PM
idiot

kysirsoze
04-27-2011, 01:44 PM
LMAO

keg in kc
04-27-2011, 02:00 PM
Reading fail.

ChiTown
04-27-2011, 02:15 PM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
by ArrowheadPride
@ @OsCz I don't think the #Redskins move up...not enough amo...hearing they could move down to the #Rams or #Chiefs pick #NFLDRAFT

:spock:

I would the whole fail.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:17 PM
Okay, I'm lost. I read that as the Skins could trade with the Chiefs. Isn't that moving up?

El Jefe
04-27-2011, 02:17 PM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
by ArrowheadPride
@ @OsCz I don't think the #Redskins move up...not enough amo...hearing they could move down to the #Rams or #Chiefs pick #NFLDRAFT

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Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:19 PM
Okay, I'm lost. I read that as the Skins could trade with the Chiefs. Isn't that moving up?

That's what I got out of it too. Guess I can't read either.

kcchiefsus
04-27-2011, 02:20 PM
How is this a reading fail? If the Redskins move DOWN to our pick, guess what that means? We move UP! Dumb fucks.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:20 PM
How is this a reading fail? If the Redskins move DOWN to our pick, guess what that means? We move UP! Dumb ****s.

Yay! I'm smart!

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:21 PM
Yay! I'm smart!

It's just funny that the first 4 people in the thread didn't read it correctly LMAO

KurtCobain
04-27-2011, 02:22 PM
Wait... So we're giving up our first rounder?

Thig Lyfe
04-27-2011, 02:23 PM
Who, exactly, would Pioli be moving up to get?

KCUnited
04-27-2011, 02:25 PM
If the Chiefs were to move up and you didn't know who they were you would never guess it was them.

Fritz88
04-27-2011, 02:26 PM
Wait... So we're giving up our first rounder?
Pioli might do that.
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keg in kc
04-27-2011, 02:26 PM
It's just funny that the first 4 people in the thread didn't read it correctlyUnless we were referring to chiefsnorth. Which this we may have been.

-King-
04-27-2011, 02:26 PM
Reading fail.

How?
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DeezNutz
04-27-2011, 02:28 PM
Wait... So we're giving up our first rounder?

Yes, for the right to trade down.

Urc Burry
04-27-2011, 02:29 PM
Who, exactly, would Pioli be moving up to get?

Julio Jones is the only logical one that comes to mind

Urc Burry
04-27-2011, 02:31 PM
I would rather trade our first this year for the a team like the Bills or Bengals moving up to get their QB and their first next year. And hope they bomb the year

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:34 PM
Who, exactly, would Pioli be moving up to get?

Julio.

Julio Jones.

After he played '10 with a broken hand and ran the combine with a broken foot, Haley probably had to seek medical attention for the boner he popped.

If the Chiefs manage to trade up and draft Jones, no one will have a fucking clue about Pioli's draft strategy for the '12 draft.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:36 PM
Unless we were referring to chiefsnorth. Which this we may have been.

Then my fault, but that wasn't the case for all 4.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:37 PM
What would that take? Our 1st, 2nd, and a 2nd next year perhaps?

Sofa King
04-27-2011, 02:39 PM
Julio.

Julio Jones.

After he played '10 with a broken hand and ran the combine with a broken foot, Haley probably had to seek medical attention for the boner he popped.

If the Chiefs manage to trade up and draft Jones, no one will have a ****ing clue about Pioli's draft strategy for the '12 draft.

We don't have a clue about Pioli's thinking this year either. or last year, or the year before.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:39 PM
What would that take? Our 1st, 2nd, and a 2nd next year perhaps?

Most Likely.

Fuck, I'm having crazy protein farts right now.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2011, 02:39 PM
Julio.

Julio Jones.

After he played '10 with a broken hand and ran the combine with a broken foot, Haley probably had to seek medical attention for the boner he popped.

If the Chiefs manage to trade up and draft Jones, no one will have a fucking clue about Pioli's draft strategy for the '12 draft.

I won't care about his strategy for '12.

Mostly because the blood will have left my brain to fuel the co-erection I will have if that pick is made.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:42 PM
I wonder under what circumstances would the draft have to play out in order for him to be there at 10-13? Anyone care to mock?

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 02:42 PM
I'd love to grab Julio Jones, but to trade up and part with picks next year too for anything other than a QB is pretty tarded.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:42 PM
Most Likely.

****, I'm having crazy protein farts right now.

Genoymx has a product called Gut Health that will take care of that little problem.

keg in kc
04-27-2011, 02:43 PM
I wonder under what circumstances would the draft have to play out in order for him to be there at 10-13? Anyone care to mock?I think the odds of him being there are even lower than the odds of us making a move up, which is not far north of zero.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:44 PM
I'd love to grab Julio Jones, but to trade up and part with picks next year too for anything other than a QB is pretty tarded.

We're stuck with Cassel. This regime will live and die with him. Time to just let it go. Might as well start loading up on Pro Bowl talent to help with his mediocrity.

Nightfyre
04-27-2011, 02:45 PM
I'd love to grab Julio Jones, but to trade up and part with picks next year too for anything other than a QB is pretty tarded.

+1

-King-
04-27-2011, 02:45 PM
I won't care about his strategy for '12.

Mostly because the blood will have left my brain to fuel the co-erection I will have if that pick is made.

ROFL
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BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:45 PM
I think the odds of him being there are even lower than the odds of us making a move up, which is not far north of zero.

I think so to. So if not Julio then who?

Fish
04-27-2011, 02:45 PM
What would that take? Our 1st, 2nd, and a 2nd next year perhaps?

That would assume we will actually have a draft next year....

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 02:45 PM
Julio.

Julio Jones.

After he played '10 with a broken hand and ran the combine with a broken foot, Haley probably had to seek medical attention for the boner he popped.

If the Chiefs manage to trade up and draft Jones, no one will have a fucking clue about Pioli's draft strategy for the '12 draft.

Won't be hard to figure out, he won't have a R1 or R2 pick to use if he trades up for Jones.

cabletech94
04-27-2011, 02:45 PM
I won't care about his strategy for '12.

Mostly because the blood will have left my brain to fuel the co-erection I will have if that pick is made.

gross. but :thumb:

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:46 PM
That would assume we will actually have a draft next year....

Even better! We give them a 2nd next year they never use.

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 02:46 PM
We're stuck with Cassel. This regime will live and die with him. Time to just let it go. Might as well start loading up on Pro Bowl talent to help with his mediocrity.

That has nothing to do with Cassel, everything to do with the position. You might convince me if we ran a 4-3 and needed a RDE and there was a dominant franchise caliber player--maybe I'd do it for that position too...

DJ's left nut
04-27-2011, 02:46 PM
I'd love to grab Julio Jones, but to trade up and part with picks next year too for anything other than a QB is pretty tarded.

To give up next year's 1st, perhaps.

But if you can get it for this year's 1st and 3rd, plus next year's 2nd, it's something you'd have to consider. There's not going to be a great QB candidate that slips to us in this year's draft, IMO. I like Locker and Kaepernick, but they're pretty damn risky either way and both of them would probably have a round worse grades most seasons.

Let's say you can get Jones this season and keep your first for next. You're now sitting in no worse a position to get a similarly talented QB in the 2012 draft.

Generally speaking I'm with you re: the value of the QB. But this draft just isn't shaping up as a good one to make a reach or a bold move at the QB position.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:47 PM
I think the odds of him being there are even lower than the odds of us making a move up, which is not far north of zero.

I dont think so.

AZ would be the wild card in all this. If they take AJ, then yeah, slim chance of him falling. But if they take a QB or defender, then AJ would fall to Cleavland and Julio could fall all the way down to 10 at least.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2011, 02:48 PM
Won't be hard to figure out, he won't have a R1 or R2 pick to use if he trades up for Jones.

Nah, it won't get done at that price.

I can't imagine Pioli would give up this season's 1st and next season's 1st day for the right to move up 11 spots. That's way too steep.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2011, 02:48 PM
I dont think so.

AZ would be the wild card in all this. If they take AJ, then yeah, slim chance of him falling. But if they take a QB or defender, then AJ would fall to Cleavland and Julio could fall all the way down to 10 at least.

Unless the Rams move up to take him. I don't see any way he gets past them, he's a perfect pick there.

Sofa King
04-27-2011, 02:49 PM
You have to factor in that the Redskins are known for being retarded with their picks...


just sayin...

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:49 PM
Unless the Rams move up to take him. I don't see any way he gets past them, he's a perfect pick there.

I agree. My worry would be the Rams moving up if Julio fell past the Browns.

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 02:50 PM
To give up next year's 1st, perhaps.

But if you can get it for this year's 1st and 3rd, plus next year's 2nd, it's something you'd have to consider. There's not going to be a great QB candidate that slips to us in this year's draft, IMO. I like Locker and Kaepernick, but they're pretty damn risky either way and both of them would probably have a round worse grades most seasons.

Let's say you can get Jones this season and keep your first for next. You're now sitting in no worse a position to get a similarly talented QB in the 2012 draft.

Generally speaking I'm with you re: the value of the QB. But this draft just isn't shaping up as a good one to make a reach or a bold move at the QB position.

Next year the QB's look to be pretty stout. This *should be Cassel's make or break year, so drafting a stud WR makes sense. However, I'd rather pick up more picks for next year so we have the ammo to move around and grab Foles or make a trade that lucks us into Andrew Luck next year.

Since there's not anyone I see as a can't miss, or that will make our team way better, I'd much rather trade back and pick up a 2nd #1 next year than trade up, even for Julio Jones.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:50 PM
What if both WR's fell to Cleavland and the browns took Jones instead of Green? Would you still be down to trade up for Green?

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 02:50 PM
Nah, it won't get done at that price.

I can't imagine Pioli would give up this season's 1st and next season's 1st day for the right to move up 11 spots. That's way too steep.

I thought the rumor is that we're moving up to Washington's spot at 6?

They aren't moving 15 spots back for anything less than 2 1sts.

They, or anyone else would be retarded to do that.

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 02:51 PM
I thought the rumor is that we're moving up to Washington's spot at 6?

They aren't moving 15 spots back for anything less than 2 1sts.

They, or anyone else would be retarded to do that.

Maybe we can trade them Cassel? :evil:

-King-
04-27-2011, 02:52 PM
What if both WR's fell to Cleavland and the browns took Jones instead of Green? Would you still be down to trade up for Green?

YES YES YES AND ANOTHER YES!
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BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:52 PM
I thought the rumor is that we're moving up to Washington's spot at 6?

They aren't moving 15 spots back for anything less than 2 1sts.

They, or anyone else would be retarded to do that.

Washington drafts 10th.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 02:52 PM
Maybe we can trade them Cassel? :evil:

I'm sold.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:53 PM
Washington drafts 10th.

This.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2011, 02:53 PM
What if both WR's fell to Cleavland and the browns took Jones instead of Green? Would you still be down to trade up for Green?

Moreso.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:53 PM
Washington must think they can move back and still get the QB they want. So this would probably mean Shanny prefers Ponder to Locker?

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 02:53 PM
Washington drafts 10th.

Fuck, my mistake. I had Cleveland and Washington swapped.

:facepalm:

Chief Roundup
04-27-2011, 02:53 PM
I thought the rumor is that we're moving up to Washington's spot at 6?

They aren't moving 15 spots back for anything less than 2 1sts.

They, or anyone else would be retarded to do that.

Uh Washingtons first pick is at 10 according to the ticker on nfl.com

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:54 PM
Damn, forgot about Cinci. Yeah, we're fucked.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 02:54 PM
Uh Washingtons first pick is at 10 according to the ticker on nfl.com

He had the Red and Brown thing mixed up.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 02:55 PM
Damn, forgot about Cinci. Yeah, we're fucked.

Why would the Bengals fuck us?

They never make the right decision.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2011, 02:56 PM
He had the Red and Brown thing mixed up.

There's a period/anal joke to be made here but damned if I'm not funny enough to pull it off...

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 02:56 PM
Why would the Bengals **** us?

They never make the right decision.

Everyone is mocking them for a WR.

Which I think would be beyond stupid. But hey, it's the Bengals.

Sofa King
04-27-2011, 02:58 PM
Do a mock draft yourself on ESPN.

I think it's very reasonable and probable that Jones will be there at 10.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/features/draftmachine/

SDChiefs
04-27-2011, 03:00 PM
The bungals will take a qb. On their roster they have a total of 4 games played and zero started.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 03:00 PM
Everyone is mocking them for a WR.

Which I think would be beyond stupid. But hey, it's the Bengals.

Everyone seems to be mocking a WR to Cleveland as well, personally I don't think either of them go that route.

I'm trying to figure out why the fuck Washington would want to move back that far. They'd be better off taking Jones at 10, and trading back into the 1st or the QB.

Unless they are completely retarded and don't have Jones or Green on their Top 10. They need a WR desperately.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 03:01 PM
When Carolina passes on Newton, this whole thing is going to blow up.

Sofa King
04-27-2011, 03:01 PM
I think cinci takes whatever QB isn't taken at 1. Most likely Gabbert. That leaves Cleveland to take AJ Green.

Nightfyre
04-27-2011, 03:03 PM
When Carolina passes on Newton, this whole thing is going to blow up.

I seriously think carolina takes dareus or possibly peterson. (A cb #1 overall? Wtf right?)

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 03:03 PM
Everyone seems to be mocking a WR to Cleveland as well, personally I don't think either of them go that route.

I'm trying to figure out why the **** Washington would want to move back that far. They'd be better off taking Jones at 10, and trading back into the 1st or the QB.

Unless they are completely retarded and don't have Jones or Green on their Top 10. They need a WR desperately.

I have 2 buddies who are die hard Browns fans, and they're both hoping they don't go WR. They want Fairly, Darius, Peterson, Miller or Quinn.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 03:04 PM
Everyone seems to be mocking a WR to Cleveland as well, personally I don't think either of them go that route.

I'm trying to figure out why the **** Washington would want to move back that far. They'd be better off taking Jones at 10, and trading back into the 1st or the QB.

Unless they are completely retarded and don't have Jones or Green on their Top 10. They need a WR desperately.

Meh.

You could have Jones and Locker - a few draft picks

OR

You could have Locker and Baldwin + a few draft picks.

Baldwin reminds me of Brandon Marshall. Not sure if that's true or not, but if it is, I'd imagine that Baldwin may be on The Rat's radar.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 03:05 PM
I have 2 buddies who are die hard Browns fans, and they're both hoping they don't go WR. They want Fairly, Darius, Peterson, Miller or Quinn.

Quinn should be the pick, IMO.

Peterson and Miller should be off the board by then.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 03:06 PM
Meh.

You could have Jones and Locker - a few draft picks

OR

You could have Locker and Baldwin + a few draft picks.

Baldwin reminds me of Brandon Marshall. Not sure if that's true or not, but if it is, I'd imagine that Baldwin may be on The Rat's radar.

I'll take the option with the elite WR every time.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 03:07 PM
I seriously think carolina takes dareus or possibly peterson. (A cb #1 overall? Wtf right?)

I know I won't be shocked if they take Von Miller.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 03:15 PM
I seriously think carolina takes dareus or possibly peterson. (A cb #1 overall? Wtf right?)

I would be HIGHLY suprised if all the "experts" didn'thave that first pick nailed down 24 hours before the draft and they all say Newton.

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 03:17 PM
If Carolina passes on Newton you know Chan is gonna be all over him.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 03:18 PM
I would be HIGHLY suprised if all the "experts" didn'thave that first pick nailed down 24 hours before the draft and they all say Newton.

No one saw Mario Williams going #1 overall either, until JUST before the draft.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 03:20 PM
No one saw Mario Williams going #1 overall either, until JUST before the draft.

It was the day before the draft when all that went down with him, Young, and Bush.

If there was a possibility of anyone else we would be hearing something from Kiper or Shefter by now. This isn't Nick "Assclown" Athan reporting he is going number 1.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 03:27 PM
It was the day before the draft when all that went down with him, Young, and Bush.

If there was a possibility of anyone else we would be hearing something from Kiper or Shefter by now. This isn't Nick "Assclown" Athan reporting he is going number 1.

I'm pretty sure it was late Friday night before a Saturday morning draft.

And everyone was shocked.

Because of the lockout issues, teams can't negotiate with players, which means if Carolina was thinking of going a different direction, it's likely no one would know about it.

Agents leak stuff like this, not teams.

Not saying it's going to happen, but just because Scheffter hasn't reported it, doesn't mean it's not possible.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 03:32 PM
I'm pretty sure it was late Friday night before a Saturday morning draft.

And everyone was shocked.

Because of the lockout issues, teams can't negotiate with players, which means if Carolina was thinking of going a different direction, it's likely no one would know about it.

Agents leak stuff like this, not teams.

Not saying it's going to happen, but just because Scheffter hasn't reported it, doesn't mean it's not possible.

Right. It was the day before the draft, but rumors were still surfacing about them negotiating the best deal with the 3 for a bit, I just don't think anyone believed it.

Despite the lockout, I'm not sold there isn't some behind the scenes communications between teams and these agents/players being drafted and I'm sure these guys have sources within the teams as well. There just isn't any smoke right now to be a fire.

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 03:34 PM
Right. It was the day before the draft, but rumors were still surfacing about them negotiating the best deal with the 3 for a bit, I just don't think anyone believed it.

Despite the lockout, I'm not sold there isn't some behind the scenes communications between teams and these agents/players being drafted and I'm sure these guys have sources within the teams as well. There just isn't any smoke right now to be a fire.

You do know that all these sports writers don't actually draft anyone yes?

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 03:38 PM
You do know that all these sports writers don't actually draft anyone yes?

Sports writers? I'm referring to guys like Kiper and Schefter that pretty much handle the draft or NFL exclusively, not Mecca Tritt from BFE Daily News.

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 03:50 PM
Sports writers? I'm referring to guys like Kiper and Schefter that pretty much handle the draft or NFL exclusively, not Mecca Tritt from BFE Daily News.

My bad. I thought Schefter and Kiper were sportswriters.

BigCatDaddy
04-27-2011, 03:55 PM
My bad. I thought Schefter and Kiper were sportswriters.

To an extent yes(more so Shefter), but if you want to lump them in with Nick "Assclown" Athan that's your call.

These guys aren't JUST looking at team needs and grading out players when they put these last mocks together. They are getting information from inside sources and their asses ride on them being accurate.

I'll put you down in the camp for not thinking Newton will go #1 though.

Frankie
04-27-2011, 04:14 PM
If the Chiefs move up it better be for Vonn Miller or Julio Jones. Else Pioli should be fired.

And BTW, neither of those two players will be available by the Redskin's pick.

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 04:17 PM
If the Chiefs move up it better be for Vonn Miller or Julio Jones. Else Pioli should be fired.

And BTW, neither of those two players will be available by the Redskin's pick.

There is no way in hell we have enough ammo to move up for Miller. He could go as high as #1.

CoMoChief
04-27-2011, 04:24 PM
If the Chiefs move up it better be for Vonn Miller or Julio Jones. Else Pioli should be fired.

And BTW, neither of those two players will be available by the Redskin's pick.

There's no way we should trade up for fucking Von Miller.

The only person that's worth trading up for (given our current personnel situation) is Julio Jones. WR is the biggest need on this team, and he's one of the very few "elite" players in this draft.

Frankie
04-27-2011, 04:29 PM
There is no way in hell we have enough ammo to move up for Miller. He could go as high as #1.

Agreed.

The Bad Guy
04-27-2011, 04:31 PM
Won't be hard to figure out, he won't have a R1 or R2 pick to use if he trades up for Jones.

It won't cost that much, no where near.

The Redskins have to get back in the 3rd round. There are 100 picks between when they pick in the 2nd or 4th rounder.

It will be something like a 1st, 3rd, 5th and a 3rd next year if this even happens at all.

But sign me up for Jones if it does.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 04:32 PM
It won't cost that much, no where near.

The Redskins have to get back in the 3rd round. There are 100 picks between when they pick in the 2nd or 4th rounder.

It will be something like a 1st, 3rd, 5th and a 3rd next year if this even happens at all.

But sign me up for Jones if it does.

Like I said, my mistake.

When I posted that, I thought Washington was at 6 and Cleveland was at 10.

Frankie
04-27-2011, 04:38 PM
From WaltersFootball.com mock.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2011_1.php


Kansas City Chiefs: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
In 2009, Scott Pioli drafted for positional value when he selected Tyson Jackson. Last year, he went the "best player available" route with Eric Berry. Both draft strategies would come into play here with Nate Solder.

Kansas City has a gaping hole at offensive tackle. I'm not a big fan of Branden Albert, but the huge void is at right tackle, where Barry Richardson struggled last year.

Solder, one of the top talents on the board, would be an instant upgrade on the right side, and could eventually transition to left tackle if Albert doesn't improve. Greg is hearing from a source that the Chiefs really like Solder.

Other 2011 NFL Draft Possibilities:

1. Phil Taylor, NT - Pioli needs his Vince Wilfork. Unfortunately, Phil Taylor was diagnosed with an inoperable foot condition, which could cause him to drop out of the first round.

2. Brooks Reed or Akeem Ayers, DE/OLB - Kansas City needs help across from Tamba Hali.

3. Julio Jones, WR - The Chiefs want to trade up for Julio Jones. There's a good chance they may do so if Jones drops to No. 12.

NATE SOLDER?!!!!!

Bewbies
04-27-2011, 04:45 PM
It won't cost that much, no where near.

The Redskins have to get back in the 3rd round. There are 100 picks between when they pick in the 2nd or 4th rounder.

It will be something like a 1st, 3rd, 5th and a 3rd next year if this even happens at all.

But sign me up for Jones if it does.

If a trade down isn't a viable option, I'd probably grab Jones for that--although that is a HUGE price...

The Bad Guy
04-27-2011, 04:46 PM
When Carolina passes on Newton, this whole thing is going to blow up.

They're not passing on him.

The Bad Guy
04-27-2011, 04:48 PM
Even if they do pass on Newton and take Darieus, the rest of the first round could go:

Denver - Fairley (Von Miller is no fit for a 4-3)
Buffalo - Von Miller
Cinci - Cam
Arizona - Petersen
Cleveland - Green
SF - Quinn
Tenn - Gabbert
Dallas - Tyron Smith
Redskins - ??

Rams Fan
04-27-2011, 05:00 PM
Please oh please find a way to fuck this up, Redskins.

Just like the '99 Draft. LMAO

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2011, 05:02 PM
From WaltersFootball.com mock.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2011_1.php


Kansas City Chiefs: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
In 2009, Scott Pioli drafted for positional value when he selected Tyson Jackson. Last year, he went the "best player available" route with Eric Berry. Both draft strategies would come into play here with Nate Solder.

Kansas City has a gaping hole at offensive tackle. I'm not a big fan of Branden Albert, but the huge void is at right tackle, where Barry Richardson struggled last year.

Solder, one of the top talents on the board, would be an instant upgrade on the right side, and could eventually transition to left tackle if Albert doesn't improve. Greg is hearing from a source that the Chiefs really like Solder.

Other 2011 NFL Draft Possibilities:

1. Phil Taylor, NT - Pioli needs his Vince Wilfork. Unfortunately, Phil Taylor was diagnosed with an inoperable foot condition, which could cause him to drop out of the first round.

2. Brooks Reed or Akeem Ayers, DE/OLB - Kansas City needs help across from Tamba Hali.

]3. Julio Jones, WR - The Chiefs want to trade up for Julio Jones. There's a good chance they may do so if Jones drops to No. 12.

NATE SOLDER?!!!!!

What the fuck?

Walt's done lost his mind.

Pioli IGNORED positional value with the Jackson pick.

5-techs are way down the list of importance in a 34 defense.

Chief Roundup
04-27-2011, 05:02 PM
I think Newton will be the QB to fall like a stone in this draft. I just don't see Ron Rivera's first pick being a QB. I think he will go defense especially since he is a defensive minded coach. If the Panthers don't take newton he falls a long ways. I think Cincinnati has thier eyes on Blaine Gabbert.

Rams Fan
04-27-2011, 05:04 PM
I think Newton will be the QB to fall like a stone in this draft. I just don't see Ron Rivera's first pick being a QB. I think he will go defense especially since he is a defensive minded coach. If the Panthers don't take newton he falls a long ways. I think Cincinnati has thier eyes on Blaine Gabbert.

So? Defensive minded coaches don't always take a defensive position first. And samething can be said for an offensive minded HC(Ex.: Haley)

Jerm
04-27-2011, 05:07 PM
This may sound stupid but theoretically would it be cheaper (trade wise) to get into the top 5 opposed opposed to say around 10?

You hear all the top 5 teams want out of the pick, I wonder if any of them would take a similar deal to move back and avoid laying the $$$?

Rams Fan
04-27-2011, 05:12 PM
This may sound stupid but theoretically would it be cheaper (trade wise) to get into the top 5 opposed opposed to say around 10?

You hear all the top 5 teams want out of the pick, I wonder if any of them would take a similar deal to move back and avoid laying the $$$?

When was the last time a pick in the top 5 was traded?

The 2009 Draft when the Jets traded up to get Sanchez?

The Browns got a 1st and 2nd in return. Would you want the Chiefs to give up a 1st and 2nd in this draft?

Chief Roundup
04-27-2011, 05:20 PM
So? Defensive minded coaches don't always take a defensive position first. And samething can be said for an offensive minded HC(Ex.: Haley)

That is right you never know until it happens. It is JMO based on the fact that they just drafted Jimmy Clausen last year in the 2cd I believe. And if a team misses on a QB that high it sets the franchise back several years. And I think Newton will be a miss for a while he is very raw.

Rams Fan
04-27-2011, 05:21 PM
That is right you never know until it happens. It is JMO based on the fact that they just drafted Jimmy Clausen last year in the 2cd I believe. And if a team misses on a QB that high it sets the franchise back several years. And I think Newton will be a miss for a while he is very raw.

The Dolphins used a 2nd round pick on a QB for 3 years in a row. What's your point?

Chief Roundup
04-27-2011, 05:24 PM
From WaltersFootball.com mock.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2011_1.php


Kansas City Chiefs: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
In 2009, Scott Pioli drafted for positional value when he selected Tyson Jackson. Last year, he went the "best player available" route with Eric Berry. Both draft strategies would come into play here with Nate Solder.

Kansas City has a gaping hole at offensive tackle. I'm not a big fan of Branden Albert, but the huge void is at right tackle, where Barry Richardson struggled last year.

Solder, one of the top talents on the board, would be an instant upgrade on the right side, and could eventually transition to left tackle if Albert doesn't improve. Greg is hearing from a source that the Chiefs really like Solder.

Other 2011 NFL Draft Possibilities:

1. Phil Taylor, NT - Pioli needs his Vince Wilfork. Unfortunately, Phil Taylor was diagnosed with an inoperable foot condition, which could cause him to drop out of the first round.

2. Brooks Reed or Akeem Ayers, DE/OLB - Kansas City needs help across from Tamba Hali.

3. Julio Jones, WR - The Chiefs want to trade up for Julio Jones. There's a good chance they may do so if Jones drops to No. 12.

NATE SOLDER?!!!!!

I have also been hearing the name Danny Watkins at 21 for us from Lombardi and Mayock.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 05:24 PM
None of this matters. We're drafting Danny Watkins.

Detoxing
04-27-2011, 05:24 PM
I have also been hearing the name Danny Watkins at 21 for us from Lombardi and Mayock.

Lombardi is preaching that shit too?

Oh fuck.

:facepalm:

Chief Roundup
04-27-2011, 05:27 PM
The Dolphins used a 2nd round pick on a QB for 3 years in a row. What's your point?

Already made it. Newton is raw and they have other needs on that team. In todays NFL where coaches have short time frames to win it would make more sense to go with Dareus or AJ Green and see what you have in Clausen. Especially sense Newton is going to struggle he is not the sharpest tool in the shed and has a lot of baggage.

Rams Fan
04-27-2011, 05:28 PM
Already made it. Newton is raw and they have other needs on that team. In todays NFL where coaches have short time frames to win it would make more sense to go with Dareus or AJ Green and see what you have in Clausen. Especially sense Newton is going to struggle he is not the sharpest tool in the shed and has a lot of baggage.

Do you think QB is a need? If the Panthers believe Newton or another QB is better than Clausen and could be the face of their franchise for years to come, would you agree with that pick?

Chief Roundup
04-27-2011, 05:40 PM
Do you think QB is a need? If the Panthers believe Newton or another QB is better than Clausen and could be the face of their franchise for years to come, would you agree with that pick?

I think the same thing that I have heard out of Shefter, Mayock, Kiper and so on does. That this years QB class is very very weak. The strongest QB in this draft is like a 3rd or 4th best QB in a lot of other drafts. Because I watch the SEC and especially the Hogs games I have gotten to see Newton. He is not the best QB in this draft even IMO. He is very RAW and will take a long time to be good if he ever does. He is very immature and struggled with the playbook in college.

BossChief
04-27-2011, 06:54 PM
Bowe + 2nd rounder = high enough pick?

Earthling
04-27-2011, 06:58 PM
Most Likely.

****, I'm having crazy protein farts right now.

I'll trade ya...;)

Frankie
04-27-2011, 08:38 PM
Already made it. Newton is raw and they have other needs on that team. In todays NFL where coaches have short time frames to win it would make more sense to go with Dareus or AJ Green and see what you have in Clausen. Especially sense Newton is going to struggle he is not the sharpest tool in the shed and has a lot of baggage.

All of this is true, 'cept if the owner wants Cam and I have a feeling that's thecase.

CHENZ A!
04-27-2011, 08:39 PM
Bowe + 2nd rounder = high enough pick?

Is this sarcasm?

Frankie
04-27-2011, 08:40 PM
Bowe + 2nd rounder = high enough pick?

I would not do that even for Julio Jones. Bowe looks like he is about to break it open.

JASONSAUTO
04-27-2011, 08:47 PM
Bowe + 2nd rounder = high enough pick?

Players CAN NOT be traded this year iihc. And why di people have an obsession with trading away our young ascending players for draft picks this year?

If sarcasm I apologize
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-King-
04-27-2011, 10:39 PM
Bowe + 2nd rounder = high enough pick?

Why the fuck would we trade a proven player who turned in an all pro season last year for an unproven WR? Especially one that plays the same position. What would adding Jones and trading Bowe do?

Players CAN NOT be traded this year iihc. And why di people have an obsession with trading away our young ascending players for draft picks this year?

If sarcasm I apologize
Posted via Mobile Device

Players can be traded because of the Judge Nelson ruling, but most likely teams won't want to trade them because they don't know the rules of the 2011 year yet.

Dante84
04-27-2011, 10:43 PM
Bowe + 2nd rounder = high enough pick?

We see you trollin', we hatin', sullen, an' tryna catch ya postin' dirty

tryna catch ya postin' dirty

Saccopoo
04-28-2011, 12:54 AM
I won't care about his strategy for '12.

Mostly because the blood will have left my brain to fuel the co-erection I will have if that pick is made.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Dl31po3wu_U/S851mosc4yI/AAAAAAAAC2o/vIM3VJVAwIc/DR.gif

Make the trade Scotty!

BossChief
04-28-2011, 01:01 AM
We see you trollin', we hatin', sullen, an' tryna catch ya postin' dirty

tryna catch ya postin' dirty

haha

keg in kc
04-28-2011, 01:01 AM
Trading Bowe to get Jones leaves us in exactly the same position we're in now. Trading bowe plus a pick is one step forward, two steps back.

BossChief
04-28-2011, 01:09 AM
Trading Bowe to get Jones leaves us in exactly the same position we're in now. Trading bowe plus a pick is one step forward, two steps back.

I love Bowe and clowned people yesterday for talking about trading players in the draft.

I was just having fun with that post.

I dont think Jones is a lot better than Bowe. He has the same problems with drops on easy catches, concentration and doesnt really have elite "game speed" (I know he ran a good track time at the combine 4.39 or so)

Jones is a similar player and I would love to have both in the huddle, but to trade too much to get him in such a strong receiver class wouldnt be the best thing we can do.

But I wouldnt complain, either.

|Zach|
04-28-2011, 01:09 AM
Bowe + 2nd rounder = high enough pick?

You are precious.

On your keyboard making posts on the internet like a grown up.

These are the days.

BossChief
04-28-2011, 01:11 AM
You are precious.

On your keyboard making posts on the internet like a grown up.

These are the days.

hi tool, how ya doin?

Take any sweet pictures lately?

|Zach|
04-28-2011, 01:13 AM
hi tool, how ya doin?

Take any sweet pictures lately?

Actually yes.

Mexico.

You should have been there.

http://image.yogile.com.s3.amazonaws.com/refhz8b4/eifkdcihbmgpzhhqpaaby4-large.jpg

BossChief
04-28-2011, 01:21 AM
nice

I really need to learn how to use my camera. I have a pretty good one (not professional dig SLR like yours) Im gonna take some pics while in nor/so-cal mid next month. Ill post a few in your thread.

take it easy

|Zach|
04-28-2011, 01:25 AM
Dont let the camera deter you. Most money I ever made from a single image was from a point and shoot.

BossChief
04-28-2011, 01:36 AM
Dont let the camera deter you. Most money I ever made from a single image was from a point and shoot.

I have just never taken the time to find out what each setting in the thing does to maximize the various shots I want to use it for.

I paid a few hundred for it around 2 1/2 years ago and it takes good shots....I just need to learn to master it to be able to utilize all the different shots it can do.

Im still a novice.

I tried to upload a few shots I took a couple months ago while I was out there, but it wont let me upload them (too big?)