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Tribal Warfare
04-29-2011, 02:09 AM
Did Pioli make the right call with Baldwin? (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/04/28/2834601/did-pioli-make-the-right-call.html)
By SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star

So, do you trust Scott Pioli?

That’s the only question that matters today in the wake of a wild first round of the NFL draft highlighted locally by a Chiefs’ trade for the 27th pick that became the 26th pick when the team ahead of them passed.

Now the rest of us try to make sense of it, and it all centers on whether you trust the Chiefs’ general manager.

Pioli could’ve had his choice of five offensive linemen who went late in the first round, helping a unit that desperately needs to get younger.

Or he could’ve drafted defensive help, specifically a potential shut-down cornerback or one of a handful of highly-regarded pass rushers to go opposite Tamba Hali.

Instead, he took Pittsburgh receiver Jonathan Baldwin to pair with Pro Bowler Dwayne Bowe. This is obviously a position of need — what’s left of Chris Chambers finished second among Chiefs receivers with 22 catches and 213 yards last year — but even then there’s no consensus that Baldwin is the right guy.

There is some serious “wrong-53” potential here. He accused his college coaches of sabotaging his draft stock, and besides, there are plenty who consider Maryland’s Torrey Smith the best receiver in the draft.

So, do you trust this?

Did a 10-6 season and first-round loss in the playoffs earn your faith?

Like any league’s draft, any strong reaction is probably an overreaction. Remember how excited everyone was for Glenn Dorsey? And how nobody talked much about Tony Moeaki after last year’s draft?

Packers’ GM Ted Thompson publicly criticized the cottage industry of draft experts, which is fine for the Super Bowl champion but also ignores that plenty of mistakes are made by the men who are paid millions to not make mistakes in the draft.

For proof, Tyson Jackson is still around.

So instead of getting worked up about specific players, it makes more sense to analyze the thinking behind the decisions.

And there is plenty to analyze.

A year ago, everyone drawing a Chiefs paycheck talked about finding “the right 53” and drafting captains and scholars and upstanding citizens. Today, they are talking up a receiver who publicly ripped his college coaches and quarterback.

Before this, Pioli talked about how he was conservative by nature and favored more predictable players rather than guys who could boom or bust. Today, he is talking about how excited he is to have drafted a gifted athlete who struggles at basic receiver requirements like route running.

“If you get yourself too tracked in to thinking one way and staying locked in on whatever belief system you have and not being altered,” Pioli says, “you’re setting yourself up for failure.”

Nobody among the group of Chiefs’ decision-makers believes the team is one or two players from contending for a Super Bowl, or that the locker room is to the rock-solid point of being able to absorb a major problem.

The flip response is that a team coached by Todd Haley can’t imagine a kid from western Pennsylvania having any sort of character issues, but the truth is the Chiefs’ coaches and executives feel they’re best equipped to help Baldwin grow up.

D-Bowe dropped his knucklehead act for at least a season, so if there is extra maturing needed here, then the Chiefs are on something of a hot streak with receivers.

In the best interpretation, Pioli is showing a lot of confidence in Haley and the other coaches. Haley made his NFL coaching name with receivers, standing up to Terrell Owens on the Cowboys’ sideline, for instance, and helping Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin become premier receivers in Arizona.

So, do you trust Pioli?

This is his third draft. The first one is an unmitigated disaster, and last year’s looks much more promising.

There is every reason to believe that last year’s success is more indicative than the previous failure because Pioli had surrounded himself with more of “his” people.

In that way, what we saw in the first round is exactly what Pioli learned in New England when they almost always picked late. The Chiefs dropped down to take an extra pick in the third round — remember, in addition to getting an extra player there are cost benefits to doing this — and still picked a position of need.

Because of how it played out, Pioli opened himself up to layers of second-guessing. If Baldwin flops and anyone in a group of Baylor defensive lineman Phil Taylor, Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith, Wisconsin offensive lineman Gabe Carimi and a handful of others in positions the Chiefs need help turn out to be stars, then Pioli will be rightly criticized.

For now, it is far too early to do that with anything other than a guess or false bravado.

So, do you trust Pioli?

The most recent body of evidence says you probably should.

Count Zarth
04-29-2011, 02:13 AM
there are plenty who consider Maryland’s Torrey Smith the best receiver in the draft.

:spock:

What the fuck are you smoking, Mellinger?

COME BACK WHITLOCK

Count Zarth
04-29-2011, 02:15 AM
Bag of shit article that basically said nothing.

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2011, 02:17 AM
I couldnt finish this article. It was complete ass. That shit was stupid to the 10th power.

Fucker lost me at we could have picked up a shut down corner? really Flowers, Carr , Arenas, but a shut down corner? Come the fuck on.

BigRock
04-29-2011, 02:20 AM
Because of how it played out, Pioli opened himself up to layers of second-guessing. If Baldwin flops and anyone in a group of Baylor defensive lineman Phil Taylor, Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith, Wisconsin offensive lineman Gabe Carimi and a handful of others in positions the Chiefs need help turn out to be stars, then Pioli will be rightly criticized.

So... if the guy you pick turns out to be bad, and other guys you could have picked turn out to be good, then you might get criticized?

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1985/mindblownthumb.jpg

BigMeatballDave
04-29-2011, 02:21 AM
Good Christ. What a pile of shit.

Chiefs=Good
04-29-2011, 02:44 AM
Holy Shit. What a ****ing HORRIBLE article.....


Baldwins expression says it all ROFL
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ChiefGator
04-29-2011, 03:44 AM
If Baldwin flops and anyone in a group of Baylor defensive lineman Phil Taylor, Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith, Wisconsin offensive lineman Gabe Carimi and a handful of others in positions the Chiefs need help turn out to be stars, then Pioli will be rightly criticized.

Retard. So, if Baldwin doesn't do well and ANY of those players do well, Pioli should be criticized? Every pick is a gamble, and none of those players are sure things.

ChiefGator
04-29-2011, 03:45 AM
So... if the guy you pick turns out to be bad, and other guys you could have picked turn out to be good, then you might get criticized?

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1985/mindblownthumb.jpg

Beat me to pointing out the absolute stupidity of this paragraph.

suzzer99
04-29-2011, 04:07 AM
Bag of shit article that basically said nothing.

Yeah that's about 90% of Mellinger's articles.

suzzer99
04-29-2011, 04:08 AM
I couldnt finish this article. It was complete ass. That shit was stupid to the 10th power.

****er lost me at we could have picked up a shut down corner? really Flowers, Carr , Arenas, but a shut down corner? Come the **** on.

Yeah but apparently Posnanski is some kind of money-grubbing whore for not sticking around for the bag of chips per article that the Star is obviously paying Mellinger.

kysirsoze
04-29-2011, 04:08 AM
Forgetting how much I disagree with the content and implications of this "article," it is just atrociously written. What a complete fucking moron.

suzzer99
04-29-2011, 04:12 AM
Yeah it's pretty obvious someone just told him (or he got the idea) to write a semi-controversial article that pokes at Pioli, but comes to a qualified positive conclusion. Always good to first pick your tone and conclusion for an essay, then just fill in mushy details that seem to fit.

salame
04-29-2011, 04:14 AM
you know?

kysirsoze
04-29-2011, 04:16 AM
Yeah it's pretty obvious someone just told him (or he got the idea) to write a semi-controversial article that pokes at Pioli, but comes to a qualified positive conclusion. Always good to first pick your tone and conclusion for an essay, then just fill in mushy details that seem to fit.

He knew most people would praise Pioli. He doesn't have the balls to blast the pick, so he wrote a half-assed "what if he's wrong" piece to try and play the Whitlock. He even fucked that up.

the Talking Can
04-29-2011, 04:38 AM
jesus teh star blows

suzzer99
04-29-2011, 04:42 AM
Well we have no one to blame but ourselves for killing newspapers. I worry a lot more about local politics. Local newspapers were always the biggest line of defense against corruption and shady deals.

Pawnmower
04-29-2011, 04:44 AM
Honestly I want to stab myself in the eyes.

I almost vomited when I read "did he earn your trust with a 10-6 season???"

I want to kick his ass TBH.

HotRoute
04-29-2011, 05:31 AM
“If you get yourself too tracked in to thinking one way and staying locked in on whatever belief system you have and not being altered,” Pioli says, “you’re setting yourself up for failure.”

That's a srange thing to say from pioli

DeezNutz
04-29-2011, 05:39 AM
“If you get yourself too tracked in to thinking one way and staying locked in on whatever belief system you have and not being altered,” Pioli says, “you’re setting yourself up for failure.”


One of the best quotations I've ever seen attributed to Pioli.

Mr. Arrowhead
04-29-2011, 06:04 AM
That's 5 minutes of my life that I will never get back
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JASONSAUTO
04-29-2011, 06:11 AM
One of the best quotations I've ever seen attributed to Pioli.



And going back to ne days he had done just that.

Randy Moss
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the Talking Can
04-29-2011, 06:29 AM
One of the best quotations I've ever seen attributed to Pioli.

seriously....

SNR
04-29-2011, 06:46 AM
I'm writing an article of my own.

It's called "Did Mellinger's mom make the right call with choosing not to have an abortion?"

SNR
04-29-2011, 06:48 AM
At least you could tell when Whitlock was trolling.

I don't know whether Mellinger is actually retarded or not.

Deberg_1990
04-29-2011, 06:51 AM
Pioli could’ve had his choice of five offensive linemen who went late in the first round, helping a unit that desperately needs to get younger.

Or he could’ve drafted defensive help, specifically a potential shut-down cornerback or one of a handful of highly-regarded pass rushers to go opposite Tamba Hali.

Instead, he took Pittsburgh receiver Jonathan Baldwin to pair with Pro Bowler Dwayne Bowe. This is obviously a position of need — what’s left of Chris Chambers finished second among Chiefs receivers with 22 catches and 213 yards last year .

Someone needs to email Mellinger and remind him we picked up and started Kevin Curtis 3 or 4 days before a playoff game and started him.....Kevin Curtis. Hes going to question this pick?? I dont get it.

Count Zarth
04-29-2011, 06:53 AM
At least you could tell when Whitlock was trolling.

I don't know whether Mellinger is actually retarded or not.

Please.

He mailed that shit in...

TEX
04-29-2011, 07:28 AM
Someone needs to email Mellinger and remind him we picked up and started Kevin Curtis 3 or 4 days before a playoff game and started him.....Kevin Curtis. Hes going to question this pick?? I dont get it.

Exactly. Picking Baldwin might not have been the only correct way to go, but it certainly was one of them. There is no doubt that WR was the Chiefs biggest need. The Chiefs simply did not have anyone to line up opposite Bowe that even resembled a warm body. At least they can do that on the OL and get away with it. I like the pick. I also would have liked Carimi - that kid looks to be an mauler. The bottom line was the Chiefs were in a good place - made thier choice - and it was a good one.

Count Zarth
04-29-2011, 07:36 AM
You already know what Whitlock would have written:


Can Bowe And Baldwin Coexist?

By Jason Whitlock

Dwayne Bowe just finished a record-setting Pro Bowl season and affirmed his draft position. Did Scott Pioli and Todd Haley just undermine his achievement and challenge his position as KC's #1 receiver by drafting Pitt's Jonathan Baldwin?

More importantly, can Bowe's ego take it?

I'm serious. Prima donna NFL wide receivers are incredibly insecure people. They crave the spotlight, loathe sharing it, and pout when someone else steals it.

It's not difficult to foresee Baldwin stealing Bowe's glory. He's bigger, a tenth of a second faster and bests his vertical jump by a full nine inches. He also has zero issues with butterfingers or weight management.

Bowe will receive the lion's share of double teams from opposing defenses next season. It's quite possibly Bowe's 15-TD 2010 season will result in huge opportunities for Baldwin on the opposite side. The Chiefs aren't about to throw the ball 35 times a game so, there aren't that many footballs to go around. Catches, yards and especially redzone touchdown catches are not going to be fairly rationed. It's not good strategy.

There's trouble brewing here and with Bowe preparing for what will surely be a season aimed at a fat contract, things could get ugly. Pioli and Haley think they've added a threat to their offense. It's quite possibly they've threatened the chemistry of the offense, instead. Egoli!

DaFace
04-29-2011, 07:37 AM
That's 5 minutes of my life that I will never get back
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You're a slow reader.

JD10367
04-29-2011, 07:51 AM
Chiefs needed another WR target. This kid is tall, strong, and fast. Seems like a solid pick, with a 3rd-rounder bonus. The fact that some schmucks had him as the 7492th-rated WR is about as useful as the pre-draft tidbits on Tom Brady. The draft is an inexact science. Pioli knows this, and so does Belichick (Tom Brady, Troy Brown, Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead, Benjarvus Green-Ellis, et cetera).

Deberg_1990
04-29-2011, 07:56 AM
The draft is an inexact science.

This is exactly why i rarely argue over picks. Nobody knows....

Even the great NFL minds only hit on about 40% of their picks. Every team has busts. Every team.

warrior
04-29-2011, 07:59 AM
Quit reading after, there are many who consider Torrey (tiny Hands) Smith the best receiver in the draft. He catches the ball with his body, that won't fly in the NFL.

Mr. Arrowhead
04-29-2011, 07:59 AM
You're a slow reader.

yup reading in morning isnt my best quality.

Sofa King
04-29-2011, 08:09 AM
Yup. I didn't make it through the whole article. When i saw "Or he could’ve drafted defensive help, specifically a potential shut-down cornerback", i stopped reading right there.

thurman merman
04-29-2011, 08:10 AM
I couldnt finish this article. It was complete ass. That shit was stupid to the 10th power.

****er lost me at we could have picked up a shut down corner? really Flowers, Carr , Arenas, but a shut down corner? Come the **** on.

Yeah. What an asinine thing to say. The Chiefs need more help at cornerback than wide receiver? Really?

ChiTown
04-29-2011, 08:22 AM
At least you could tell when Whitlock was trolling.

I don't know whether Mellinger is actually retarded or not.

He's a ku alum, so, obviously, he's retarded.o:-)

Dayze
04-29-2011, 08:23 AM
I wonder what Petro will say today. Not that I"ll tune in, just curious to what degree of retard he's going to go today.

58kcfan89
04-29-2011, 08:42 AM
Didn't really have anything to add on the Mellinger hate, but wanted to say **** him for shitting on Dorsey. I'm still excited that we took him in '08 & think he'll continue to be a good DE for us for a long time.

Asshole.

-King-
04-29-2011, 08:46 AM
So... if the guy you pick turns out to be bad, and other guys you could have picked turn out to be good, then you might get criticized?

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1985/mindblownthumb.jpg

Hey make fun of that fact all you want, but it's still a good fucking point. Wait till he tells you that the team with the most points at the end of the game usually wins. That will really blow your mind.

Cave Johnson
04-29-2011, 08:47 AM
"Pioli could’ve had his choice of five offensive linemen who went late in the first round, helping a unit that desperately needs to get younger."

What an utter pile of BS. Once Asamoah replaces Waters, the oldest lineman will be Lilja, 29.

What C should we drafted at 21 or 26?

Mr. Laz
04-29-2011, 10:38 AM
Or he could’ve drafted defensive help, specifically a potential shut-down cornerback


besides, there are plenty who consider Maryland’s Torrey Smith the best receiver in the draft.

pretty hard to take the article serious with these 2 statements

KCrockaholic
04-29-2011, 10:52 AM
JFC...

I just read in the paper today

"This pick has the feel of another Tyson Jackson"

****ing dumbasses...

suzzer99
04-29-2011, 11:07 AM
pretty hard to take the article serious with these 2 statements

Omg I didn't even read the article. A shut-down cornerback??? His can you be that stupid? Did he just copy this from some pundit boilerplate somewhere and forget to replace the specific positions with the team's actual needs?

Saccopoo
04-29-2011, 11:09 AM
JFC...

I just read in the paper today

"This pick has the feel of another Tyson Jackson"

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/2011/01/87665dude-wtf-posters1z.jpg

ChiefsCountry
04-29-2011, 11:13 AM
You know its a good pick when CP is loving it and the idiot KC media is bashing it.

Coach
04-29-2011, 11:15 AM
I am happy with this pick, because it DOES address a need, and it's not a reach/project like the offensive lineman from Canada who is 26 years of age, and didn't play any organized football in high school.

That pick, would have reek of Carl Peterson pick.

ChiefsCountry
04-29-2011, 11:18 AM
I am happy with this pick, because it DOES address a need, and it's not a reach/project like the offensive lineman from Canada who is 26 years of age, and didn't play any organized football in high school.

That pick, would have reek of Carl Peterson pick.

Actually Watkins wasn't really a reach project too much for a team like the Eagles. For us he would have been.

Chocolate Hog
04-29-2011, 11:19 AM
Actually Watkins wasn't really a reach project too much for a team like the Eagles. For us he would have been.

Huh?

Chocolate Hog
04-29-2011, 11:21 AM
The Star didn't lose customers by the hundreds of thousands for nothing.....

ChiefsCountry
04-29-2011, 11:21 AM
Huh?

An established team in a win now mode like that where he could be plugged into guard is the perfet situation for him.

Chocolate Hog
04-29-2011, 11:24 AM
An established team in a win now mode like that where he could be plugged into guard is the perfet situation for him.

Oh I agree with that. Let me ask you this though was Watkins really that ahead of all the other linemen in this draft though? They drafted a guy who has like a 5 year window ROFL Everything Philly has done this year has been FAIL.

ChiefsCountry
04-29-2011, 11:25 AM
Oh I agree with that. Let me ask you this though was Watkins really that ahead of all the other linemen in this draft though? They drafted a guy who has like a 5 year window ROFL Everything Philly has done this year has been FAIL.

I think Philly's window is pretty limited - Vick isn't getting any younger. Even though the rest of the team is pretty young.

Coach
04-29-2011, 11:30 AM
Actually Watkins wasn't really a reach project too much for a team like the Eagles. For us he would have been.

For a 26 year old rookie, who haven't played organized football since high school.

To me, that screams raw and project.

I'm not in the business of selecting 26 year old players in the first round, who has limited football experience. I'm in the business of finding players who are very young and can play football.

Chocolate Hog
04-29-2011, 11:35 AM
Will their defensive cord coach Watkins too? ROFL

Thig Lyfe
04-29-2011, 11:45 AM
http://paperpetual.com/gifs/yeblablah.gif

Pants
04-29-2011, 11:46 AM
Mellinger is a known commodity in the retard market. This article is par for the course for ol' Sam.

Count Zarth
04-29-2011, 11:54 AM
Mellinger is a known commodity in the retard market. This article is par for the course for ol' Sam.

We should start rating shitty articles in Mellingers.

The fewer the better the article is.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-29-2011, 12:01 PM
That was really ignorant.

Smith was in no way a position of need, we are more set at CB than any other position on the team.

The OL who were available were all RTs, and you could get similar value from the #70 that you got from trading down. Orlando Franklin or Marcus Gilbert, for example, would both be excellent choices with that pick.

Baldwin was an excellent value at that spot in the draft, but more importantly, he also showed that Pioli is able to think outside of the box. You can't have an entire team of boyscouts, but similarly, you can't have an entire team of TO's. Having a few guys who may be knuckleheads, and Baldwin may well be one, is ok if they are overruled by a strong support system with good leaders.

The best thing about this pick is that it showed that Pioli isn't just an automaton.

the Talking Can
04-29-2011, 12:16 PM
The best thing about this pick is that it showed that Pioli isn't just an automaton.

bingo


and he displayed an excellent sense of value in the first round, getting the pick is why he's being paid $$$$

boogblaster
04-29-2011, 12:42 PM
any pick is a long-shot ...

buddha
04-29-2011, 12:47 PM
Sam is a nice guy in person, but seriously, is that the best he could come up with the day after the first freaking round? Really? Garbage column. Let's review...some draft picks work out and some don't. Thanks for crystalizing it so well, Sam.

Chocolate Hog
04-29-2011, 12:51 PM
That was really ignorant.

Smith was in no way a position of need, we are more set at CB than any other position on the team.

The OL who were available were all RTs, and you could get similar value from the #70 that you got from trading down. Orlando Franklin or Marcus Gilbert, for example, would both be excellent choices with that pick.

Baldwin was an excellent value at that spot in the draft, but more importantly, he also showed that Pioli is able to think outside of the box. You can't have an entire team of boyscouts, but similarly, you can't have an entire team of TO's. Having a few guys who may be knuckleheads, and Baldwin may well be one, is ok if they are overruled by a strong support system with good leaders.

The best thing about this pick is that it showed that Pioli isn't just an automaton.


So then whats the difference between Pioli in 2009 and 2011? Did he forget how to act like a GM for a year?

Count Zarth
04-29-2011, 12:56 PM
So then whats the difference between Pioli in 2009 and 2011? Did he forget how to act like a GM for a year?

Pioli's not out of the hot water with a lot of people. Some people are still upset over last year's second round (not to mention the 09 abortion), and he has to finish this draft strong.

I daresay the Baldwin pick was a no brainer. I mean, look at the fucking depth chart. Trading down was inspired though.

wazu
04-29-2011, 01:01 PM
This place would have full-on melted down if we had drafted a corner. How can somebody who gets paid to write these things be so freaking clueless? Sad to see/hear other members of KC media try to prop him up. He sucks.

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2011, 01:17 PM
Yeah. What an asinine thing to say. The Chiefs need more help at cornerback than wide receiver? Really?

Whats even worse is i heard Mayok say the CB"s in this draft are pretty weak.

ITs like this dude knows nothing about the sport of football.

beach tribe
04-29-2011, 01:45 PM
I absolutely loved this pick. And he landed a high third in the process?
Pioli is the best hire this team has made in the last 40 some odd years.
This article is complete, and utter tripe.
I have the hugest man-crush on Pioli that I have ever had on any man, with Eric Berry being a close 2nd.
I have TOTAL faith in Pioli. The guy is going to take us to the promised land IMO.

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2011, 02:22 PM
Yep, we addressed the biggest need in this team. The play offs were so pathetic for us. Baltimore just locked up Bowe with a few people and we had nothing after that.

That shit wont happen again if Baldwin turns out to be half assed good. We had to sign a fucking WR off the street a week before the play offs, so he coudl START! Not be a bck up. START.

wazu
04-29-2011, 03:00 PM
I absolutely loved this pick. And he landed a high third in the process?
Pioli is the best hire this team has made in the last 40 some odd years.
This article is complete, and utter tripe.
I have the hugest man-crush on Pioli that I have ever had on any man, with Eric Berry being a close 2nd.
I have TOTAL faith in Pioli. The guy is going to take us to the promised land IMO.

Woah! Settle down, cowboy. I like Pioli for the most part, but lets save the man-crushes until he delivers us a playoff win.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-29-2011, 03:24 PM
Even the great NFL minds only hit on about 40% of their picks.

Categorically false.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-29-2011, 03:24 PM
I absolutely loved this pick. And he landed a high third in the process?
Pioli is the best hire this team has made in the last 40 some odd years.
This article is complete, and utter tripe.
I have the hugest man-crush on Pioli that I have ever had on any man, with Eric Berry being a close 2nd.
I have TOTAL faith in Pioli. The guy is going to take us to the promised land IMO.

Someone hide the Fentanyl.

keg in kc
04-29-2011, 03:31 PM
So then whats the difference between Pioli in 2009 and 2011? Did he forget how to act like a GM for a year?Some of us have suggested that the fact that he was working (or not working, as the case may have been) with the incumbent scouting staff his first offseason, and consequently began to install his own the day following that year's draft, might have had a hand in the differences between 2009 and 2010 (and possibly 2011).

That's not an effort to excuse him, or to somehow make the 2009 draft 'okay' in anybody's eyes, just a suggestion for why years 2 and 3 might (and it's still 'might' at this point, for both...) look a little better than year 1.

Pasta Giant Meatball
04-29-2011, 03:53 PM
Love the pick, so yes he did make the right call.

ChiefsCountry
04-29-2011, 03:55 PM
I absolutely loved this pick. And he landed a high third in the process?
Pioli is the best hire this team has made in the last 40 some odd years.
This article is complete, and utter tripe.
I have the hugest man-crush on Pioli that I have ever had on any man, with Eric Berry being a close 2nd.
I have TOTAL faith in Pioli. The guy is going to take us to the promised land IMO.

Until he gets us a legit QB he hasn't done shit.

Tribal Warfare
04-29-2011, 06:02 PM
Until he gets us a legit QB he hasn't done shit.

I agree with this

Thig Lyfe
04-29-2011, 06:09 PM
Until he gets us a legit QB he hasn't done shit.

He's done shit, but I ain't crowning his ass til he gets a real QB.

Psyko Tek
04-29-2011, 07:59 PM
I couldnt finish this article. It was complete ass. That shit was stupid to the 10th power.

Fucker lost me at we could have picked up a shut down corner? really Flowers, Carr , Arenas, but a shut down corner? Come the fuck on.

THIS
\find a better batch of young corners

\that being said
\i hates WR
make them run crossing route's underneath the ML until they learn they ain't they most important person on the field

craneref
04-29-2011, 09:53 PM
With the trade down the Chiefs got Bladwin AND Houston!! May of us would have been happy with JUST Houston at the original 21st slot, so if you look at the way the pick worked out we got potential beaasts at Outside LB AND WR. I would have liked Ellis instead of Bailey in the 3rd, But overall I think the draft has fallen pretty well for us.