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Direckshun
05-04-2011, 10:16 AM
I haven't been able to find TV listings.

Is it going to be streamed anywhere? Is any channel airing it that you know of?

This is going to be a hell of a year following the GOP primaries. I want to treasure every lasting moment.

The dais for the debate:

Herman Cain
Tim Pawlenty
Ron Paul
Gary Johnson
Rick Santorum

Gotta love that lineup. You've got a nut, a libertarian, a liberal, and a talk radio hardliner... and the nebulous concept that is Tim Pawlenty.

Bewbies
05-04-2011, 10:24 AM
Why are they already having debates? LMAO

Direckshun
05-04-2011, 10:26 AM
Why are they already having debates? LMAO

Because they obviously love us. :D

SNR
05-04-2011, 11:24 AM
Senator "Frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex": What is your long-term solution to the tax code?

ROYC75
05-04-2011, 11:31 AM
Really nothing to watch here, it's too early for a debate.

SNR
05-04-2011, 11:37 AM
According to Juan Williams:

The debate will be on the Fox News Channel this Thursday night, May 5 at 9 p.m. E.T

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/03/juan-williams-need-know-gop-debate-need/#ixzz1LPFrA4Ds

Cave Johnson
05-04-2011, 01:11 PM
No Trump or Palin? Pass.

SNR
05-04-2011, 11:59 PM
No Trump or Palin? Pass.You think Palin's actually going to run?

Direckshun
05-05-2011, 12:45 AM
Yay! Debate tonight!

The circus has come to town. LMAO

This is going to be a fun year and a half.

SNR
05-05-2011, 01:04 AM
It will be interesting to see the question distribution.

Faux News will have to distribute 40% of their questions to Libertarians. That's way more than being forced to throw an occasional bone to Ron Paul on the side of the stage. If they actually do it or not will be interesting to see.

There's only so many questions you can ask to Mr. Lube/feces mixture and a retard like Pawlenty. Cain, Johnson, and Paul are going to be the stars of this debate, and that definitely frightens the GOP.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm actually going to watch this. If I don't like the media treatment though, it will tell me all I need to know about how these primaries are going to be run, and I won't waste my time with future debates.

SNR
05-05-2011, 12:05 PM
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/25/135614519/match-game-what-made-these-republicans-fall-for-politics

Taco John
05-05-2011, 12:34 PM
Ron Paul's campaign has raised $500,000 today so far, with more coming in every hour and especially after the actual debate tonight. He might end up with a million dollar day.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

RNR
05-05-2011, 01:12 PM
No Trump or Palin? Pass.
For entertainment purposes?

patteeu
05-05-2011, 02:39 PM
The dais for the debate:

Herman Cain
Tim Pawlenty
Ron Paul
Gary Johnson
Rick Santorum

Gotta love that lineup. You've got a nut, a libertarian, a liberal, and a talk radio hardliner... and the nebulous concept that is Tim Pawlenty.

OK, which one is which in your view? I assume Cain is the talk radio hardliner and obviously Pawlenty is Pawlenty, but I can't figure out which ones are the nut and the liberal.

Chocolate Hog
05-05-2011, 02:47 PM
Anyone else find it ironic Dickershun laughs at these candidates but votes for one of the most inept presidents ever?

Chocolate Hog
05-05-2011, 02:49 PM
OK, which one is which in your view? I assume Cain is the talk radio hardliner and obviously Pawlenty is Pawlenty, but I can't figure out which ones are the nut and the liberal.

Santorum is the nut just google him.

Chocolate Hog
05-05-2011, 02:51 PM
The Hill already calling the debate for Paul

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/lawmaker-news/159447-ron-paul-will-win-tonights-gop-debate

go bowe
05-05-2011, 03:22 PM
billay, billay, billay... :facepalm:

Chocolate Hog
05-05-2011, 03:31 PM
Yes Go Bowe?

RNR
05-05-2011, 03:40 PM
Anyone else find it ironic Dickershun laughs at these candidates but votes for one of the most inept presidents ever?

Anyone who has talked politics with BarrygivesmeDirekshun does not take his posts seriously~

Calcountry
05-05-2011, 03:48 PM
I haven't been able to find TV listings.

Is it going to be streamed anywhere? Is any channel airing it that you know of?

This is going to be a hell of a year following the GOP primaries. I want to treasure every lasting moment.

The dais for the debate:

Herman Cain
Tim Pawlenty
Ron Paul
Gary Johnson
Rick Santorum

Gotta love that lineup. You've got a nut, a libertarian, a liberal, and a talk radio hardliner... and the nebulous concept that is Tim Pawlenty.In Obama, you have a

Narcissist
Socialist
Marxist
Statist
Incompetent.

You gotta love that resume.

BucEyedPea
05-05-2011, 03:52 PM
You think Palin's actually going to run?

She's barely placing in GOP polls I've seen.

patteeu
05-05-2011, 03:56 PM
Santorum is the nut just google him.

I assumed that was Ron Paul. Does that mean that Paul is the liberal?

SNR
05-05-2011, 04:04 PM
I assumed that was Ron Paul. Does that mean that Paul is the liberal?
Talk radio hardliner- Obvious. It's Cain
Tim Pawlenty is Tim Pawlenty

So you have a nut, liberal, and libertarian for Lubefeces, Johnson, and Paul

Lubefeces sure as hell ain't a liberal or a libertarian. So you tell me what he is. Besides, anybody who says Paul is nuttier than Lubefeces is a nut as nutty as Lubefeces himself.

Johnson and Paul are left. I assume Johnson is the liberal and Paul is the libertarian, though they really should be switched around.

patteeu
05-05-2011, 04:12 PM
Talk radio hardliner- Obvious. It's Cain
Tim Pawlenty is Tim Pawlenty

So you have a nut, liberal, and libertarian for Lubefeces, Johnson, and Paul

Lubefeces sure as hell ain't a liberal or a libertarian. So you tell me what he is. Besides, anybody who says Paul is nuttier than Lubefeces is a nut as nutty as Lubefeces himself.

Johnson and Paul are left. I assume Johnson is the liberal and Paul is the libertarian, though they really should be switched around.

I wouldn't have characterized any of them as nuts or liberals so what we're really trying to do here is figure out how Direckshun is characterizing them. You might be right, but if so, I wonder how Direckshun is distinguishing between the libertarian and the liberal.

SNR
05-05-2011, 04:21 PM
I wouldn't have characterized any of them as nuts or liberals so what we're really trying to do here is figure out how Direckshun is characterizing them. You might be right, but if so, I wonder how Direckshun is distinguishing between the libertarian and the liberal.Did either Johnson or Paul refer to Osama bin Laden as "murdered" in the past week? That might be the clue.

Chocolate Hog
05-05-2011, 04:51 PM
He's referring to Johnson as the liberal. Johnson is for open borders and I think he might also be pro choice.

patteeu
05-05-2011, 05:46 PM
He's referring to Johnson as the liberal. Johnson is for open borders and I think he might also be pro choice.

OK, thanks. Open borders? Really?

SNR
05-05-2011, 06:22 PM
I can see the FOX post-coverage right now:

Only Tim Pawlenty is worth a squirrel fart

I've got my barf bags at the ready

Direckshun
05-05-2011, 07:20 PM
I have to DVR it. :(

This primary season will have me in total glee.

SNR
05-05-2011, 07:22 PM
Pawlenty and Lubefeces getting all the questions. Shocking.

orange
05-05-2011, 07:56 PM
Pawlenty and Lubefeces getting all the questions. Shocking.

We should all be grateful in one sense. Santorum is looking even smaller and more futile than expected. I mean, getting clowned by a FOX reporter at a Republican debate? LMAO

Direckshun
05-05-2011, 07:57 PM
Who is Lubefeces again?

SNR
05-05-2011, 08:00 PM
Who is Lubefeces again?
Santorum

(Look up Dan Savage's definition of "Santorum")

RJ
05-05-2011, 08:00 PM
I don't think Johnson is a liberal, I think he's a pragmatist. Which is why I like him.

SNR
05-05-2011, 08:00 PM
And speaking of Lubefeces, he looked like a giant clown on that social issue question

Bewbies
05-05-2011, 08:03 PM
I'm pretty sure Barackshun is the only guy in the world that thinks Obama is unbeatable.

SNR
05-05-2011, 08:09 PM
Oh lord. Santorum has surpassed Sam Brownback as the biggest fuckstick ever seen on a GOP debate stage

SNR
05-05-2011, 08:21 PM
Ron Paul has had the best one-liners so far. He nailed that heroin and drug question out of the goddamn park.

Cain is looking solid. I predict (but I don't know for sure) that guys like Pat would find him the most preferrable

Pawlenty is boring

Lubefeces is a nut

Unfortunately, Gary Johnson is too much doom and gloom. He's used "financial collapse" around three times tonight. There's not too much that voters can see that's positive about the guy. I don't think this election will treat him very well at all.

WoodDraw
05-05-2011, 08:24 PM
This all seems like dancing with the stars. A bunch of B list celebrities given the chance to talk to a clapping audience.

dirk digler
05-05-2011, 08:34 PM
Frank Luntz's group just picked Hermann Cain the winner and about 90% of that group said he is the #1 pick now

wow

Direckshun
05-05-2011, 08:37 PM
Frank Luntz's group just picked Hermann Cain the winner and about 90% of that group said he is the #1 pick now

wow

LMAO

What about you guys?

Help a brother out -- I'll be watching the debate around midnight tonight.

Who won?

SNR
05-05-2011, 08:40 PM
LMAO

What about you guys?

Help a brother out -- I'll be watching the debate around midnight tonight.

Who won?Ron Paul.

But what do IIIIIIIIII know? I'm a kooky kook nut and want fetuses to smoke marijuana and want us to give our sovereignty to Pakistan, Iran, and China

dirk digler
05-05-2011, 08:41 PM
LMAO

What about you guys?

Help a brother out -- I'll be watching the debate around midnight tonight.

Who won?

Cain wasn't bad but Pawlenty IMHO was head and shoulders above the others. But hey what do I know I am a stupid Obot

SNR
05-05-2011, 08:42 PM
Herman Cain DID do well, however. Besides Ron Paul, he answered the questions the most directly and gave the most solutions.

Not sure if they're good solutions, but they're far from talking points that you'd see out of Palin or Trump

SNR
05-05-2011, 08:42 PM
Cain wasn't bad but Pawlenty IMHO was head and shoulders above the others. But hey what do I know I am a stupid ObotNah not really

SNR
05-05-2011, 09:04 PM
Oh God this is painful to watch. Hannity and Luntz and that focus group have wiped away all kinds of credibility that Republicans might have earned in that debate.

If Santorum is the nominee for this party, they will see a presidential victory drought the likes of which have not been seen by history

dirk digler
05-05-2011, 09:08 PM
Oh God this is painful to watch. Hannity and Luntz and that focus group have wiped away all kinds of credibility that Republicans might have earned in that debate.

If Santorum is the nominee for this party, they will see a presidential victory drought the likes of which have not been seen by history

This surprises you? I imagine the Republicans are going to nominate somebody that is pretty far right.

SNR
05-05-2011, 09:12 PM
This surprises you? I imagine the Republicans are going to nominate somebody that is pretty far right.They could have nominated Romney, Brownback, Huckabee, or Duncan Hunter in the last presidential election and instead chose a candidate who isn't a demagogue. At least not a religious demagogue.

The Republicans can stand to lose a whole lot more than an election this go-around. They better not screw it up.

banyon
05-05-2011, 09:32 PM
My Review in order of least impressive to Most impressive with grades:

Johnson: Although he is the least well known and the most untraditional of these candidates, he had zero charisma in this debate, stammered on most occasions, didn't get his points across, and seemed in over his head. It was awkward at best. Maybe it will get easier for him, if they ever invite him back. D-

Pawlenty: He was the most plausible and probably the "front-runner" given who else was in this debate, their numbers, and their history. I think he came off as bland and boring. He did not differentiate himself from this group of also-rans, and that's a loss in my book. He didn't sound like a kook though. C-

Paul: Ron Paul was Ron Paul. What you see is what you get. Even if we're talking about absurdities like legalizing heroin, he's going to stick by his rigid ideological principles. That being said, he wasn't flapped by any questions and he was obviously supported by a large contingent of acolytes who applauded everything he said, even if it wasn't noteworthy. He did seem to stammer a bit more than usual though; maybe he's getting too old for this... C+

Santorum: Santorum has taken some crazy positions over the years, and the purpose of most of what he said tonight seemed to be to take the edge off of those positions. I don't think he did it in a way with much appeal as a leader, but he at least managed to portray himself as just a regular conservative instead of a screaming nutjob fringe one, which is a big achievement for him. B-

Cain: I agree that he was the winner of this debate. He was personable, funny, and direct. He gave straight answers (with the exception of the Afghanistan question, which he will have to eventually answer). He didn't seem outclassed by the other people on the stage, and he gave relevant criticisms of Obama and set out how he would lead. As a progressive, i probably don't agree with his policies, but he was likeable and engaging. He needs to fill out his policy proposals a bit more and his answer of "he'll listen to the experts on Afghanistan won't work forever" but it was a bump for his position in the race. A

Fox's questions, while delivered in a softball way, weren't terrible and actually challenged some of the candidates. I believe that is a result of their decision to include Chris Wallace and Juan Williams. I think other Fox personalities would've just asked questions set up on the tee ball tee.

banyon
05-05-2011, 09:36 PM
Is/was there a filter on Rick Santorum calling him "lubefeces"? What's up with that?

Ultra Peanut
05-05-2011, 10:00 PM
lolllllllllllllll

SNR
05-05-2011, 10:16 PM
Is/was there a filter on Rick Santorum calling him "lubefeces"? What's up with that?No, that's my own thing. The guy's a tool, so that's what I call him.

Incase you don't know about the source, though, google "Dan Savage definition of Santorum"

banyon
05-06-2011, 06:20 PM
No, that's my own thing. The guy's a tool, so that's what I call him.

Incase you don't know about the source, though, google "Dan Savage definition of Santorum"

Eww.

Sorry i looked it up.

Thanks a lot. :Lin:

:p

SNR
05-06-2011, 06:34 PM
Eww.

Sorry i looked it up.

Thanks a lot. :Lin:

:p
The best part is just googling "santorum" will bring up that definition as the first hit.

At least that's the way it was the day of the debate. Since Rick is getting more press, I imagine news releases will be filling up now

Direckshun
05-08-2011, 04:23 PM
I finally got a chance to watch it all the way through.

Pawlenty, Cain, and Paul pretty much came out looking exactly like we thought they looked going in. No harm done.

Gary Johnson, I believe, did a decent enough job distinguishing himself, but it's hard to take him serious when he's got no shot with his numerous liberal positions on Republican nerve centers. That's why he fielded hardly any questions, and had to interrupt questioning to demand questions. Fail.

The one who looked the strongest to me is Santorum, I've always thought of him as a considerable political foe. His arguments aren't great and his grasp on the facts isn't terribly strong, but he makes his arguments very forcefully and seems to be the only one on the stage who projects the urgency of the supposed dire America that Obama has foisted upon all of us. Everybody else just acts like this is a pleasant conversation over tea.

Direckshun
05-08-2011, 04:25 PM
By the way, this is going to be one of the best primary seasons EVAR.

I will be watching every step of the way.

SNR
05-08-2011, 04:33 PM
Gary Johnson, I believe, did a decent enough job distinguishing himself, but it's hard to take him serious when he's got no shot with his numerous liberal positions on Republican nerve centers. That's why he fielded hardly any questions, and had to interrupt questioning to demand questions. Fail.

This was the saddest part of the debate for me: Seeing one of my favorites turn into Mike Gravel. Pointing out the lack of questions going his way (which was certainly true) and also being the voice of doom and gloom (which also may be true) made him out to be a wacko loon, which I think was what FOX wanted all along.

Also, it took a lot of balls by Ron Paul to turn down FOX for after-debate questioning from Hannity. I know he wanted to reward his loyal supporters, but that's no way to get the nomination. He had some real gems in this debate, too. It would have been great to relive those moments while Hannity has to sit there and watch Ron Paul look good.

Direckshun
05-08-2011, 04:38 PM
This was the saddest part of the debate for me: Seeing one of my favorites turn into Mike Gravel. Pointing out the lack of questions going his way (which was certainly true) and also being the voice of doom and gloom (which also may be true) made him out to be a wacko loon, which I think was what FOX wanted all along.

Also, it took a lot of balls by Ron Paul to turn down FOX for after-debate questioning from Hannity. I know he wanted to reward his loyal supporters, but that's no way to get the nomination. He had some real gems in this debate, too. It would have been great to relive those moments while Hannity has to sit there and watch Ron Paul look good.

Good points on Paul.

Hannity and the talk radio right have extended an olive branch to Paulites since healthcare reform became a national issue.

Paul going on the tube to break bread with Hannity could have been not just a great moment for him personally, but for a Republican Party which is getting really fractured.

I think you're dead right on Gary Johnson, too. Too bad. I like it when moderates get their due. He didn't get his Thursday.

Chocolate Hog
05-08-2011, 10:05 PM
This was the saddest part of the debate for me: Seeing one of my favorites turn into Mike Gravel. Pointing out the lack of questions going his way (which was certainly true) and also being the voice of doom and gloom (which also may be true) made him out to be a wacko loon, which I think was what FOX wanted all along.

Also, it took a lot of balls by Ron Paul to turn down FOX for after-debate questioning from Hannity. I know he wanted to reward his loyal supporters, but that's no way to get the nomination. He had some real gems in this debate, too. It would have been great to relive those moments while Hannity has to sit there and watch Ron Paul look good.

Paul was on Hannitys TV show and radio program about a week before anyway. He'll also be on Fox News Sunday next week.

Chocolate Hog
05-08-2011, 10:08 PM
I finally got a chance to watch it all the way through.

Pawlenty, Cain, and Paul pretty much came out looking exactly like we thought they looked going in. No harm done.

Gary Johnson, I believe, did a decent enough job distinguishing himself, but it's hard to take him serious when he's got no shot with his numerous liberal positions on Republican nerve centers. That's why he fielded hardly any questions, and had to interrupt questioning to demand questions. Fail.

The one who looked the strongest to me is Santorum, I've always thought of him as a considerable political foe. His arguments aren't great and his grasp on the facts isn't terribly strong, but he makes his arguments very forcefully and seems to be the only one on the stage who projects the urgency of the supposed dire America that Obama has foisted upon all of us. Everybody else just acts like this is a pleasant conversation over tea.

Paul needs to try and brand himself as a conservative instead if a hardcore Libertarian. He needs to explain better how his positions are the conservative position. I actually think his answers on social issues/drugs will hurt him in South Carolina.

SNR
05-08-2011, 11:14 PM
Any Republicans who are still thinking that Santorum is an okay guy take a look at his answer at 13:30. We really don't need this kind of Leave it to Beaver bullshit right now

<iframe width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/njZL05nf_IA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Then stay tuned and listen to Ron Paul's drug use question and tune into his followup. His sarcastic quip at the end was fucking awesome