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05-04-2011, 12:53 PM
I don't see how anyone could not condemn these sick evil people. What a great place to drop a bomb

Gaza demonstrators condemn death of bin Laden

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip- Palestinians gathered in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday to pay tribute to slain al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.

Holding pictures and posters of bin Laden crowds rallied outside a Gaza City university. The crowd included al-Qaida sympathizers as well as students who said they opposed bin Laden's ideology, but were angry at the U.S. for killing him and consider him a martyr.

Hamas police did not interfere in the demonstration.

In the weeks ahead of bin Laden's death, a survey in the Arab world by the Pew Research Center found support for the al-Qaida leader had dropped dramatically in recent years — though it remained the highest among Palestinians.

The survey said about a third of Palestinians believed bin Laden would do the right thing in world affairs, which still represented a dramatic drop from a few years ago when overwhelming numbers approved of him.

On Monday, Ismail Haniyeh, prime minister of Gaza's Hamas government, condemned the U.S. operation against bin Laden, whom he hailed as a "Muslim and Arab warrior." Still, the Islamic Hamas has always distanced itself from al-Qaida's militant Islamic ideology, saying its battle is against Israel, not the West.

Al-Qaida's supporters have often accused Hamas of being too moderate and clashed with them.

Israel's Channel 2 TV broadcast video Tuesday from Jerusalem's Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, Islam's third-holiest site, showing a Palestinian preacher mourning bin Laden, calling him "a hero" and "a lion of Islam," cursing President Barack Obama, and hurling insults at Pope John Paul II.

In Israel, police said they beefed up security around sensitive sites, including the airport, the U.S. Embassy, the U.S. consulate and areas where U.S. officials live, in case of revenge attacks.

05-04-2011, 12:58 PM
I hope the world shows the palestinians this is the wrong path

Fatah, Hamas proclaim landmark reconciliation pact

CAIRO – Rival Palestinian factions Fatah and Hamas on Wednesday proclaimed a landmark reconciliation pact aimed at ending their bitter four-year rift that has left them with competing governments in the territories envisioned for a future Palestinian state, but Israel's leader denounced it as a "mortal blow to peace."

The alliance set off ecstatic celebrations in the Palestinian territories. International mediator Tony Blair insisted their new government must recognize Israel, a step Hamas has always rejected.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas brushed off the criticism and instead used the occasion to deliver a scathing attack on Israel, saying "we reject blackmail and it is no longer possible for us to accept the (Israeli) occupation of Palestinian land."

The Palestinians have been torn between rival governments since a previous unity arrangement collapsed into civil war in June 2007. In five days of fighting, Hamas overran the Gaza Strip, leaving Abbas' Palestinian Authority in charge of the West Bank. Reconciliation is essential for Palestinian dreams to establish a state in the two areas.

Wednesday's pact provides for the creation of a joint caretaker government ahead of national elections next year. But it leaves key issues unresolved, such as who will lead the government or control the competing Palestinian security forces.

It also makes no mention of relations with Israel — the issue that led to the collapse of the previous unity government. Abbas favors a negotiated peace with Israel, while Hamas refuses to accept Israel's existence.

In his speech, Abbas rejected Israel's opposition to the pact, saying the reconciliation was an internal Palestinian affair.

"We forever turn the black page of division," Abbas told the declaration ceremony in the Egyptian capital, Cairo. He promised to "soon" the visit Hamas-held Gaza Strip.

"They are our brothers and family. We may differ, and we often do, but we still arrive at a minimum level of understanding," Abbas said.

In a potential sign of trouble, Blair said the world would demand the new government renounce violence and recognize Israel's right to exist — something that Hamas has always refused to do. Despite an informal cease-fire that ended Israel's punishing invasion two years ago, hundreds of rockets have been fired at Israel from Hamas-ruled Gaza.

"If the principles are not upheld, it puts us in a very difficult position," he told The Associated Press. "I think the central question people ask is, 'Does this mean a change of heart on behalf of Hamas or not?' ... We want them in this process. Otherwise there will be no peace."

Blair represents the so-called quartet of Mideast mediators — the United States, European Union, United Nations and Russia — which imposed identical conditions to the previous Palestinian government. Hamas' refusal to accept these conditions could jeopardize hundreds of millions of dollars in international aid.

Israel denounced the pact because of Hamas' long history of suicide attacks and rocket fire against Israeli targets. Israel, the U.S. and the European Union all consider Hamas a terrorist group.

"What happened today in Cairo is a mortal blow to peace and a big prize for terrorism," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said during a trip to London. "Israel continues to want peace and seek peace but we can only achieve that with our neighbors that want peace. Those of our neighbors that seek the destruction of Israel and use terrorism are not partners to peace."

British officials said they were waiting for more details, but expressed hope the agreement would boost the peace process. Earlier this week, Foreign Secretary William Hague said the U.K. would "judge a future Palestinian government by its actions and its readiness to work for peace."

Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal told the ceremony in Cairo that his group was prepared to do anything to "translate the text of the pact to facts on the ground. Our battle is with the Israeli enemy and not with Palestinian factions."

Ahead of the ceremony, Abbas aide Nabil Shaath called the international demands "unfair."

Peace talks broke down more than seven months ago with the expiration of an Israeli freeze on West Bank settlement construction. Abbas says he will not restart talks until Israel stops building homes on occupied lands claimed by the Palestinians.

With peace talks stalled, Abbas is focusing on internal Palestinian issues. A unified government will also make it easier for him to carry out his plan to seek U.N. recognition of a Palestinian state, with or without a peace deal, in September.

Hamas and other Palestinian militant factions in Gaza have agreed to abide by an unofficial truce with Israel, largely in place since Israel's January 2009 war in the territory. But it is unclear how long that truce will last, and Hamas has often looked the other way while smaller militant groups fired rockets into Israel.

Fatah and Hamas officials will meet soon to work out the details of their agreement, said the head of the Fatah delegation in Cairo, Azzam al-Ahmed. He told the AP that all issues would be tacked simultaneously, including formation of a new government, release of prisoners and "ending campaigns of one side against the other."

Yuval Diskin, chief of Israel's Shin Bet internal security service, predicted that the unity deal would not last long. He also said Israel would be prepared to maintain its cooperation with Abbas' security forces.

"As long as the West Bank government continues its commitments to Israel and nothing changes on the ground, then Israel should carry on working with them," Diskin said.

The unity deal set off celebrations in both the West Bank and Gaza, where residents reacted with a mix of excitement and caution.

In Gaza City, motorists honked their horns and waved yellow Fatah flags, which had been banned for the past four years. Other people held placards of Fatah's iconic leader, the late Yasser Arafat, or hugged Hamas policemen.

"I am so excited. Today is a day of joy for all Palestinians," said Narmine Talal, a 24-year-old student who waved a small Fatah flag. Talal handed out candy from her car window to a police officer, as her father drove.

In the West Bank city of Ramallah, where the Palestinian Authority is headquartered, several hundred people, mostly Fatah supporters, rallied in the central Manara Square, raising Palestinian flags and calling for unity. "The people want to end the split," they cried.

Saleh Mashni, a 66-year-old pharmacist, said he put the chances of success at "fifty-fifty."

"I want to be an optimist, but I can't. It's difficult," he said, expressing concern that Hamas could resume its attacks on Israel.

In a symbolic step, Hamas allowed Fatah-controlled Palestine TV to broadcast from Gaza for the first time since the 2007 takeover, while Hamas' al-Aqsa TV was permitted to broadcast from Ramallah.

"Today we end a dark chapter in our recent history," Hamas leader Ismail Radwan told the Fatah TV station. "It's time now to work together."

05-04-2011, 02:49 PM
If the palestinians can't do this then they deserve to be where they are. Dumbasses

Blair: Palestinians must recognize Israel

JERUSALEM – Mideast envoy Tony Blair says the international community supports Palestinian reconciliation but will demand that the new unity government recognize Israel's right to exist and renounce violence.

Wednesday's announcement could signal trouble for the new alliance between the Islamic militant group Hamas and the Western-backed Fatah movement. Hamas says it will never recognize Israel.

Blair represents the Quartet of Mideast mediators — the U.S., the EU, U.N. and Russia. He told The Associated Press the Quartet wants to see who is chosen Palestinian prime minister before passing judgment, but Hamas must have "a change of heart" for the government to succeed.

Similar Quartet demands four years ago led to the collapse of a previous unity government.

05-04-2011, 02:58 PM
I just thought of a good place to test a few daisy cutters.

05-04-2011, 03:04 PM
I just thought of a good place to test a few daisy cutters.

A good place to test every weapon in need of testing~

05-04-2011, 03:05 PM
A good place to test every weapon in need of testing~

Indeed sir.

Rain Man
05-04-2011, 03:45 PM
Palestinians are the least civilized peoples on the entire planet. They are savage brutes incapable of higher-order thought.

05-04-2011, 03:53 PM
Black for Palestine.