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BigCatDaddy
05-05-2011, 09:08 AM
I think the Bronco's pick much higher myself.





Cleveland Browns2010 record: 5-11 | Needs: ROT, OLB, CB, OG, WR
Andrew Luck*, QB, StanfordLuck is a once-in-a-decade kind of talent with all the tools to be an elite NFL quarterback. He returned to Stanford for the 2011 season even though coach Jim Harbaugh moved to the NFL, and the team with the No. 1 overall pick in 2012 should trade its existing quarterback to draft Luck. He's that good. If not, the pick will be up for public auction.


Carolina Panthers2010 Record: 2-14 | Needs: WR, DE, OLB, CB, RB
Quinton Coples, DE, North CarolinaCoples is a 6-foot-6, 255-pound end with great versatility. He explodes off the ball, is powerful and quick and was all over the field in 2010.




Washington Redskins2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: QB, DL, ILB, WR, CB
Matt Barkley*, QB, USCBarkley came into his own in 2010, showing natural anticipation and more consistency. He also emerged as a strong leader.



Buffalo Bills2010 record: 4-12 | Needs: QB, OLB, TE, LOT, S
Matt Kalil*, OT, USCKalil is a 6-5, 295-pounder with great feet, and he is so strong at left tackle that 2011 first-round pick Tyron Smith stayed on the right side while at USC. Kalil's brother, Ryan Kalil, is the starting center for the Carolina Panthers.



Denver Broncos2010 record: 4-12 | Needs: DT, MLB, QB, RB, CB
Jerel Worthy*, DT, Michigan StateAt 6-3 and 305 pounds, Worthy is an active tackle who can be disruptive in the backfield and flashes the ability to get to the quarterback.



Arizona Cardinals2010 record: 5-11 | Needs: QB, OT/G, OLB, S, TE
Donte Paige-Moss*, DE, North CarolinaAnother Tar Heels defensive lineman with NFL potential, Paige-Moss has the build and athleticism to play right defensive end in a 4-3 scheme or outside linebacker in a 3-4 like Arizona's.


Seattle Seahawks2010 record: 7-9 | Needs: NT, CB, WR, RB, S
Alshon Jeffery*, WR, South CarolinaI'll be interested to see how Jeffery runs and to study more tape on his route-running, but he passes the eyeball test with flying colors and has delivered clutch performances in big games during his short career.


Tennessee Titans2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: OG, CB, DT, ILB, DE
Jayron Hosley*, CB, Virginia TechHosley is an underrated cover corner with good ball skills.



Oakland Raiders2010 record: 8-8 | FS, QB, TE, WR, OT
Jonathan Martin*, OT, StanfordMartin is technically sound, and at 6-6 and 305 pounds, he can continue to improve his feet and strength. He is a two-year starter entering his junior season.


Cincinnati Bengals2010 record: 4-12 | Needs: CB, DT, RB, SS, PK
Janoris Jenkins, CB, FloridaJenkins' status is unknown after he was dismissed by Florida in late April following a second arrest on a charge of marijuana possession in a three-month span. He could elect for the 2011 supplemental draft, but at this point, he remains one of the top 2012 corner prospects. Watch his handling of 2010 first-round pick A.J. Green to see just how good Jenkins is.


San Francisco 49ers2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: DT, CB, DE, QB, PK
Dre Kirkpatrick*, CB, AlabamaKirkpatrick is yet another Nick Saban-coached defensive back on his way to the NFL. He needs to fill out his long frame but has the ability to become an effective press-man corner at the next level.


St. Louis Rams2010 record: 7-9 | Needs: OLB, DT, RB, OG, FS
Trent Richardson*, RB, AlabamaRichardson has a rare combination of size, power and burst, and he piled up more than 1,800 yards of total offense the past two seasons while sharing time with 2011 first-round pick Mark Ingram.


Minnesota Vikings2010 record: 6-10 | FS, OT, DT, OLB, WR
Marcus Forston*, DT, MiamiThe Vikings weren't able to address their need for a full-time starter at defensive tackle in the 2011 draft, and heading into his junior season, the 6-3, 310-pound Forston has the size and strength to become an impact every-down starter in the NFL.


Jacksonville Jaguars2010 record: 8-8 | DE, OLB, MLB, FS, CB
Luke Kuechly*, LB, Boston CollegeKuechly is a high-motor, hardworking linebacker with good football tools and even better mental makeup. His instincts and tackling skills helped him pile up a ridiculous 183 total tackles in 2010.


Miami Dolphins2010 record: 7-9 | QB, FS, ILB, TE, DE
Landry Jones*, QB, OklahomaIt will be interesting to see how Chad Henne does behind an upgraded offensive line, and if he is unable to get the job done, Miami will be one of the quarterback-hungry teams entering the 2012 draft. We still need to study more film on Jones. Although he continues to improve and has prototypical size and the arm strength to make all the throws, to work his way up to this point, he needs to become more consistent in terms of footwork, accuracy and decision-making in 2011.


Detroit Lions2010 record: 6-10 | CB, WLB, SLB, OT, DE
Stephon Gilmore*, CB, South CarolinaDepending on what the Lions do in free agency, corner still could be a need in next year's draft. Gilmore is a smooth, fluid athlete with good size and a chance to become one of the elite cover corners in the nation next season with better technique and recognition skills.


Kansas City Chiefs2010 record: 10-6 | ROT, ILB, TE, NT, LS
Manti Te'o, LB, Notre DameTe'o has developed into a solid player and should emerge as one of the elite linebackers in the nation in 2011. He continues to improve his recognition skills and has the quickness and power you look for in a starting inside linebacker in the NFL.


Tampa Bay Buccaneers2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: CB, OLB, OT, RB, OG
Zach Brown, LB, North CarolinaBrown is your prototypical weakside linebacker. He's slightly undersized with room to improve at the point of attack, but he is a smooth athlete who can flat-out fly all over the field.


Chicago Bears2010 record: 11-5 | Needs: WR, OLB, CB, ILB, C
Justin Blackmon*, WR, Oklahoma StateThe Bears remain in the market for a big wideout to complement their speedsters on the perimeter, Johnny Knox and Devin Hester. Anyone who saw Blackmon use his size and strength against Prince Amukamara last season knows he would be the right man for the job.


Houston Texans2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: FS, NT, OG/C, OT, ILB
Ray-Ray Armstrong*, S, MiamiAfter loading up the defensive front this year, the Texans could be in the market for a playmaker in the secondary next year. Armstrong has steadily improved in the past two years and has been the No. 1 ball hawk for the Hurricanes. He would be a perfect fit for Wade Phillips' scheme, which puts as much pressure on its safeties as it does the corners in zone looks.


Dallas Cowboys2010 record: 6-10 | DE, S, CB, ILB, C
Cliff Harris*, CB, OregonHarris has a lot of work to do as a corner, but few individuals in college football show more explosiveness and big-play ability than he does. Harris is also one of the most dangerous return men in the nation.


San Diego Chargers2010 record: 6-10 | Needs: OLB, ROT, NT, ILB, C
Vontaze Burfict*, LB, Arizona StateBurfict is a work in progress and needs more game experience and coaching, but he is a physical specimen who can play sideline-to-sideline and blow plays up like no other linebacker in the country.


New York Giants2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: OLB, MLB, LOG/C, OT, TE
Keenan Robinson, LB, TexasRobinson is maybe the most underrated defensive prospect in the nation. He constantly jumped out during film study on other players last year, doing a great job of getting off blocks and showing good closing burst in pursuit.


Philadelphia Eagles2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: CB, OLB, ROT, TE, DL
Travis Lewis, OLB, OklahomaLewis is a quicker-than-fast weakside linebacker and one of the most productive in the nation the past two years. I'll be interested to see after studying film how much of that is due to the scheme and how much is due to his tools, but he does appear to have the closing burst to contribute in the NFL.


New York Jets2010 record: 11-5 | OLB, OT/G, S, TE, WR
Brandon Jenkins*, DE, Florida StateJenkins is a throwback Florida State pass-rusher with the frame (6-3, 234) to fit nicely on the outside in a 3-4 scheme like New York's. His 13.5 sacks as a sophomore in 2010 were the most on a team that led nation with 48 sacks.


Cleveland Browns (from ATL)2010 record: 5-11 | Needs: ROT, OLB, OG, WR
Mike Adams, OT, Ohio StateAdams is 6-7 with a lean frame and needs to add bulk. Although he's not as athletic as 2010 first-rounder Nate Solder, he has similar potential to make a big move as a senior.


Baltimore Ravens2010 record: 12-4 | Needs: S, ILB, DE, OLB, RB
Robert Lester*, S, AlabamaThe 6-2, 215-pound Lester made big strides as a sophomore and has good straight-line speed to go with natural playmaking instincts, all of which could put him into the early rounds in 2012.


New England Patriots (from NOR)2010 record: 14-2 | Needs: OLB, DE, WR, FS, C
Andre Branch, DE, ClemsonBranch is a 4-3 end at Clemson, but at 6-4 and 255 pounds, he continued to jump out as we studied 2010 tape of former Tigers DE Da'Quan Bowers. Branch has the look of the kind of 3-4 outside linebacker the Patriots like.



Indanapolis Colts2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: WR, SS, CB, OLB, RB
Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&MFuller broke out as a playmaker in 2010 and should only get better in his second year with QB Ryan Tannehillin 2011. Fuller has the size (6-4, 215), ball skills and playmaking ability to transition nicely to the NFL.


Pittsburgh Steelers2010 record: 12-4 | Needs: NT, CB, WR, TE, OG
Kelechi Osemele, OL, Iowa StateA versatile prospect, Osemele (6-4, 325) starts at left tackle for Iowa State and is arguably the best overall player for the Cyclones. He could potentially play guard or right tackle in the NFL.


New England2010 record: 14-2 | Needs: OLB, DE, WR, FS, C
Jared Crick, DT, NebraskaCrick is a limited athlete but has the size, strength and toughness to become a starting 5-technique in a base 3-4 front.


Green Bay Packers2010 record: 10-6 | Needs: DE, OLB, OG, CB, RS
Chase Minnifield, CB, VirginiaMinnifield stepped up when 2010 draftee Ras-I Dowling missed significant time. Although Minnifield needs to add bulk, he shows the instincts and overall tools to become an NFL starter.

SNR
05-05-2011, 09:49 AM
In terms of fast, athletic, explosive players who love football and give 100% every play, wouldn't Burfict be a much better fit for us? Or do our inside linebackers require more patience and knowledge of the gaps than anything?

AndChiefs
05-05-2011, 09:52 AM
Wait...where's our OT?

Ebolapox
05-05-2011, 10:02 AM
so apparently one afc team will make the nfc championship game. cool.

ChiefsCountry
05-05-2011, 10:09 AM
so apparently one afc team will make the nfc championship game. cool.

Patriots have the Saints first rounder next year.

BigCatDaddy
05-05-2011, 10:18 AM
I'm a little shocked to see Landry Jones being rated so high. He has a good arm, but I just don't see NFL starter with the guy. He is well behind Bradford IMO.

Dicky McElephant
05-05-2011, 10:44 AM
Nice......I like the Teo pick....but then again I'm a Notre Dame homer.


And I love how LS is one of our needs. WTF?

keg in kc
05-05-2011, 10:56 AM
Dirty domer gomer pick.

Actually wouldn't be that bad, although much like RT, I'm kind of iffy about drafting an ILB in the first round.

Dicky McElephant
05-05-2011, 11:12 AM
6 LBs in the 1st round is a little much.

ChiefsCountry
05-05-2011, 11:29 AM
Dirty domer gomer pick.

Actually wouldn't be that bad, although much like RT, I'm kind of iffy about drafting an ILB in the first round.

If he can be a Ray Lewis type then I am all for it. I like the ILB crop this year.

bsp4444
05-05-2011, 11:46 AM
In terms of fast, athletic, explosive players who love football and give 100% every play, wouldn't Burfict be a much better fit for us? Or do our inside linebackers require more patience and knowledge of the gaps than anything?

Well in this draft, he's already off the board to San Diego, who picks before us. I hope the division falls like he predicts.

BigCatDaddy
05-05-2011, 11:49 AM
Well in this draft, he's already off the board to San Diego, who picks before us. I hope the division falls like he predicts.

They pick after us.

warrior
05-05-2011, 11:59 AM
If he can be a Ray Lewis type then I am all for it. I like the ILB crop this year.

ILB some really good ones next year and IMO one of our biggest needs left.

bsp4444
05-05-2011, 12:06 PM
They pick after us.

Duh. I looked at the records and thought that was the predicted record next year, and that the order was...well... Jesus I really don't know how I interpreted that.

Ebolapox
05-05-2011, 02:46 PM
Patriots have the Saints first rounder next year.

yeah, I know. he STILL has an afc team playing in nfc championship game with his order...

pick 29=colts=afc
pick 30=steelers=afc
pick 31=patriots=afc
pick 32=packers=nfc

the last four picks (regardless of the saints trading of a pick, which would be pick 28) should be half and half with no trades, as the losing teams of the championship games get 29 and 30 respectively.

Bewbies
05-05-2011, 02:46 PM
The two things that stuck out to me were:

1. We don't pick an OT
2. Iowa State has a 1st rounder :)

ChiefMojo
05-05-2011, 03:47 PM
The ILB class of 2012 is absolutely SICK! There are three or more ILB's in the 1st round that would get top billing about any year period. Some are saying there are multiple Ray Lewis type caliber ILB in this class.

My early thoughts were that ILB is our top need and after reading up on 2012 Draft, I stand by that.

aturnis
05-05-2011, 05:40 PM
The two things that stuck out to me were:

1. We don't pick an OT
2. Iowa State has a 1st rounder :)

Hahahaha, Iowa State fan... I get it now. Sorry about your luck. Stanzi is the Manzi.

Mecca
05-06-2011, 12:30 AM
In terms of fast, athletic, explosive players who love football and give 100% every play, wouldn't Burfict be a much better fit for us? Or do our inside linebackers require more patience and knowledge of the gaps than anything?

Burfict is a big athletic thumper, all the talent in the world with that guy. I wonder how our team would look at him though. He ended up not going to SC because he didn't have the grades to qualify..he made it known the day he stepped on the ASU campus he was leaving after 3 years because he hates going to class. So I wonder how that'll play.

Direckshun
05-06-2011, 01:13 AM
Burfict is a big athletic thumper, all the talent in the world with that guy. I wonder how our team would look at him though. He ended up not going to SC because he didn't have the grades to qualify..he made it known the day he stepped on the ASU campus he was leaving after 3 years because he hates going to class. So I wonder how that'll play.

How does he feel about football?

Right there's your answer.

Bewbies
05-06-2011, 08:01 AM
Hahahaha, Iowa State fan... I get it now. Sorry about your luck. Stanzi is the Manzi.

Stanzi was a 5th round pick, which isn't a bad pick. Thinking Stanzi was 1st or 2nd round pick is homervision at it's finest.

aturnis
05-06-2011, 09:29 AM
Never called him a first round pick. Kiper and Mayock had him rated in the 2nd. According to this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=244826) thread, he was widely considered a 3rd rounder by the rest of the league.

Any way, I basically feel that no other QB in this draft did much in their careers to separate themselves from Stanzi, save Cam Newton. Gabbert, and all the rest were pretty similar to Stanzi, throw in the fact that he is a disciplined, film rat who operated out of a pro style offense and instantly commands the respect of the players around him and he becomes even more appealing to me.

Frosty
05-06-2011, 10:27 AM
Burfict is a hothead who costs his team through his multiple personal fouls. If he can't learn to control himself, I don't want him on the Chiefs. Right now, he is basically Brian Cox.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2010/10/05/20101005arizona-state-football-burfict-benched.html

veist
05-07-2011, 01:02 AM
McShame with another half assed effort, no way this many non-pass rushing LBs go in the first. 3-4 ILB and 4-3 OLB are basically only ahead of SS and Specialists in value.

Ebolapox
05-07-2011, 09:32 AM
Never called him a first round pick. Kiper and Mayock had him rated in the 2nd. According to this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=244826) thread, he was widely considered a 3rd rounder by the rest of the league.

Any way, I basically feel that no other QB in this draft did much in their careers to separate themselves from Stanzi, save Cam Newton. Gabbert, and all the rest were pretty similar to Stanzi, throw in the fact that he is a disciplined, film rat who operated out of a pro style offense and instantly commands the respect of the players around him and he becomes even more appealing to me.

dude... just stop. cam newton has the potential of akili smith or ryan leaf on the next level. are you fucking kidding me? dude had a 'play-call by numbers' system. that shit don't fly in the nfl. gabbert is just as much of a film rat, has a better arm, better speed, and is pretty close to the prototype nfl QB (very intelligent). the ONLY thing stanzi has over gabbert is the fact that he played in a pro-style offense (though it's not like gabbert was a spread-option qb) and he had more talent surrounding him (nfl TE, nfl WRs and the obvious nfl o-linemen that iowa churns out).

gabbert > > > > > stanzi RIGHT THIS MOMENT (and obviously, nfl experts all agree--if they all had stanzi tabbed as a second or third rounder he'd have been drafted.... IN THE SECOND OR THIRD ROUND).

now, can stanzi become a better pro than gabbert? sure he could. he has more college starting experience, which helps. he's likely going into a better situation than gabbert (both should sit a year or two and hold the clipboard, but stanzi is the only one of the two that will def. get that chance).

don't get me wrong--I'm glad we got stanzi--but he's not QB jesus for fuck's sake. he has some moles and fell because of them.

SNR
05-07-2011, 01:54 PM
don't get me wrong--I'm glad we got stanzi--but he's not QB jesus for fuck's sake. he has some moles and fell because of them.Soooo... you're saying Stanzi = Drew Brees?


THANK YOU GOD!!!!!!!! :rockon:

Ebolapox
05-07-2011, 04:36 PM
Soooo... you're saying Stanzi = Drew Brees?


THANK YOU GOD!!!!!!!! :rockon:

ROFL

well played, brah.

Bewbies
05-07-2011, 06:04 PM
Ricky Stanzi was so highly rated nobody picked him before we did. Which means we had him highest rated of anyone.

SDChiefs
05-07-2011, 07:27 PM
Ricky Stanzi was so highly rated nobody picked him before we did. Which means we had him highest rated of anyone.

Yeah good point. Pats should trade Tom Brady. Hell never be any good with so many teams passing on him so many times.

Bewbies
05-07-2011, 07:32 PM
Yeah good point. Pats should trade Tom Brady. Hell never be any good with so many teams passing on him so many times.

Nobody valued Tom Brady worth a shit either (WHEN HE WAS DRAFTED). That's as dumb as talking about how awesome Tim Couch was now. :deevee:

aturnis
05-08-2011, 01:46 AM
Ricky Stanzi was so highly rated nobody picked him before we did. Which means we had him highest rated of anyone.

And you show your stupidity once again. Players, even highly rated ones, fall. For different reasons. Drug test, character concerns, and injury among others.

Stanzi imo, fell b/c of two main reasons. All the teams who NEEDED QB's went and got them early. Guys they felt comfortable with THAT early. Anyway, the pundits pretty unanimously expected the top 9 QB's to be taken by the 3rd round. That didn't happen. Most teams NEEDED other help before they needed a backup QB, so he got passed up.

Also, when looking at him against other prospects, the arrogance mentioned by "the rogue scout" came into play. Stanzi's big wart this year was not winning late in games, or "crumbling". If you watched the Iowa season, you could see that Stanzi never got the help he needed from his offensive coordinator, or oline. The coordinator called deeper developing routes with more than enough time on the clock to slowly matriculate down the field. B/c it took so long for his receivers to get open, he was often under heavy pressure. If you watch the Arizona game, Brooks Reed was in the backfield as fast as he wanted to be on Iowa's final 2 possessions(oline). Yet the coordinator still called passing plays that took too much time to develop. Even though the combination of DJK, McNutt, Reisner and A-Rob could eat up 5yd. outs to the sidelines all day long. Stanzi wasn't put in a good situation to win any tight games this season. If teams had gone back, looked at and trusted his Soph. And JR. years, they would have seen him move the offense down the field many times for game winners. I think he's got around 9 games you could say he won late to his name.

Chiefs got a steal.

Got Powe in the 6th, Parcells said he was ready for the NFL straight out of high-school. Other teams and pundits also had him ranked real high. They're all wrong though right? No, he slipped b/c teams had other needs/value, and there were a couple of warts.

T-post Tom
05-08-2011, 08:56 PM
McShay needs to go on vacation for about 10 months.

Bewbies
05-08-2011, 10:22 PM
And you show your stupidity once again. Players, even highly rated ones, fall. For different reasons. Drug test, character concerns, and injury among others.

Stanzi imo, fell b/c of two main reasons. All the teams who NEEDED QB's went and got them early. Guys they felt comfortable with THAT early. Anyway, the pundits pretty unanimously expected the top 9 QB's to be taken by the 3rd round. That didn't happen. Most teams NEEDED other help before they needed a backup QB, so he got passed up.

Also, when looking at him against other prospects, the arrogance mentioned by "the rogue scout" came into play. Stanzi's big wart this year was not winning late in games, or "crumbling". If you watched the Iowa season, you could see that Stanzi never got the help he needed from his offensive coordinator, or oline. The coordinator called deeper developing routes with more than enough time on the clock to slowly matriculate down the field. B/c it took so long for his receivers to get open, he was often under heavy pressure. If you watch the Arizona game, Brooks Reed was in the backfield as fast as he wanted to be on Iowa's final 2 possessions(oline). Yet the coordinator still called passing plays that took too much time to develop. Even though the combination of DJK, McNutt, Reisner and A-Rob could eat up 5yd. outs to the sidelines all day long. Stanzi wasn't put in a good situation to win any tight games this season. If teams had gone back, looked at and trusted his Soph. And JR. years, they would have seen him move the offense down the field many times for game winners. I think he's got around 9 games you could say he won late to his name.

Chiefs got a steal.

Got Powe in the 6th, Parcells said he was ready for the NFL straight out of high-school. Other teams and pundits also had him ranked real high. They're all wrong though right? No, he slipped b/c teams had other needs/value, and there were a couple of warts.

LMAO

Dude, I'm not knocking the pick, but come on. Value of players is not determined by writers, it's determined by scouts, coaches, GM's and teams who actually pick the players.

If these players were valued so much higher by NFL guys they would have been picked a lot higher.

Ebolapox
05-08-2011, 10:44 PM
LMAO

Dude, I'm not knocking the pick, but come on. Value of players is not determined by writers, it's determined by scouts, coaches, GM's and teams who actually pick the players.

If these players were valued so much higher by NFL guys they would have been picked a lot higher.

dude... he doesn't have a good answer for any of these points. the only relevant point I can add at this point is on value. if stanzi really WAS considered a second or third round grade, SOMEBODY would've picked him in the fourth because he represented VALUE (like we did justin houston). look, it's a QB-driven league. if you don't have one, you go out and get one. if a second round talent falls to the third or fourth round, YOU FUCKING JUMP UP AND GRAB HIM.

all this tells me is that, despite an iowa homer who considers him a better QB than the one drafted only about 125 picks and four rounds earlier, stanzi was NOT a second or third round QB. he was a fifth round flier who may end up being a great QB with some coaching up and time to learn the nfl.

I'm not knocking stanzi--but the simple fact is that you're absolutely right. HE.WOULD.HAVE.BEEN.DRAFTED.SOONER.IF.TEAMS.HAD.HIM.RATED.HIGHER. he may end up being great (AND I HOPE HE DOES FOR FUCK'S SAKE), but he may end up being another in the long line of qbs highlighted by pat barnes, matt blundin, mike elkins, brodie croyle and casey printers. odds are on the last option for iowa homers scoring at home.

aturnis
05-08-2011, 11:27 PM
LMAO

Dude, I'm not knocking the pick, but come on. Value of players is not determined by writers, it's determined by scouts, coaches, GM's and teams who actually pick the players.

If these players were valued so much higher by NFL guys they would have been picked a lot higher.

And I'm telling you, go read the Gretz article where all 3 teams had Stanzi ranked as a top 100 player.

aturnis
05-08-2011, 11:33 PM
dude... he doesn't have a good answer for any of these points. the only relevant point I can add at this point is on value. if stanzi really WAS considered a second or third round grade, SOMEBODY would've picked him in the fourth because he represented VALUE (like we did justin houston). look, it's a QB-driven league. if you don't have one, you go out and get one. if a second round talent falls to the third or fourth round, YOU ****ING JUMP UP AND GRAB HIM.

all this tells me is that, despite an iowa homer who considers him a better QB than the one drafted only about 125 picks and four rounds earlier, stanzi was NOT a second or third round QB. he was a fifth round flier who may end up being a great QB with some coaching up and time to learn the nfl.

I'm not knocking stanzi--but the simple fact is that you're absolutely right. HE.WOULD.HAVE.BEEN.DRAFTED.SOONER.IF.TEAMS.HAD.HIM.RATED.HIGHER. he may end up being great (AND I HOPE HE DOES FOR ****'S SAKE), but he may end up being another in the long line of qbs highlighted by pat barnes, matt blundin, mike elkins, brodie croyle and casey printers. odds are on the last option for iowa homers scoring at home.

So players can't fall? Houston fell two rounds, Powe fell at least 3, according to how 3 teams had him rated top 100. Stanzi didn't even fall as far as Powe. Can't fall 2 rounds and still be rated higher. Fuck off you obnoxious pud.

BossChief
05-09-2011, 01:14 AM
HE GOT PICKED BEFORE BRADY DID!!!!eleventy1111!!!!!!

Ebolapox
05-09-2011, 06:31 AM
So players can't fall? Houston fell two rounds, Powe fell at least 3, according to how 3 teams had him rated top 100. Stanzi didn't even fall as far as Powe. Can't fall 2 rounds and still be rated higher. Fuck off you obnoxious pud.

didn't I address houston? he had warts, namely a failed drug test. powe had warts as well: many teams passed on him due to (apparently untrue) illiteracy issues.

sure he could fall. OR, maybe he wasn't that highly rated? as to being an obnoxious pud, apparently logic is obnoxious to you (as are his brothers rational thought and non-homerism).

when you look at these guys, you have to ignore the logo on the helmet. if you'd do that, you'd see that stanzi will most likely end up being another great white hope (made worse by the fact that he's from iowa--you guys will be gushing all the fuck over him with your unreal expectations). for fuck's sake, many of you are already calling for him to start. you know what it reminds me of? if ted white were a fucking iowa QB: you'd have been all over that shit, but sorely disappointed to find that he sucked balls when it counted.

so sure, maybe being rational and logical and taking homerism out of the equation is obnoxious. those black colored glasses tend to cloud your vision, though. may want to take those off.

Rooster
05-09-2011, 09:25 AM
HE GOT PICKED BEFORE BRADY DID!!!!eleventy1111!!!!!!

:rockon::rockon:

Bewbies
05-09-2011, 02:21 PM
So players can't fall? Houston fell two rounds, Powe fell at least 3, according to how 3 teams had him rated top 100. Stanzi didn't even fall as far as Powe. Can't fall 2 rounds and still be rated higher. **** off you obnoxious pud.

For next years draft can you get me access into the war rooms of all the teams? Clearly you had access to information nobody else did. LMAO

DJ's left nut
05-09-2011, 04:04 PM
Damn.

I actually really like that pick from McShay.

He's still a douchebag.

aturnis
05-09-2011, 05:29 PM
For next years draft can you get me access into the war rooms of all the teams? Clearly you had access to information nobody else did. LMAO

Here (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=244826)you go phuqtards!

Ebolapox
05-09-2011, 06:15 PM
Here (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=244826)you go phuqtards!

wow. WE'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE. HOLY SHIT, HE'S GOT THE FUCKING INSIDE SCOOP THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE. HAY, DO YUO HAV TEH LOTTREY #S FOR 2MORROW? HORRAY WE IS ALL RICH NOW, BIDCH!

so you can regain some dignity, I'll be glad to eat some crow on the kid when he leads us to a playoff win.

until then, stanzi by your man (and show the world you love him).

Bewbies
05-09-2011, 08:27 PM
Here (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=244826)you go phuqtards!

The point must have sailed about 20 yards over your head.

Ebolapox
05-09-2011, 08:31 PM
The point must have sailed about 20 yards over your head.

be easy on him; his ass is sore from stanzi BuFu'ing him relentlessly while he hums the national anthem (clad from the waist up in camo and american flags).

Bewbies
05-09-2011, 08:48 PM
When I lived in Iowa I used to hate the Hawkeye and Cornfucker homers. I can't tell you how many folks I talked to would state (with a straight face) that coming off a 1-11 season Iowa had a good shot at winning the title. Win 1 game, next year title shot. Win 2 games, title shot. LMAO

Until getting to know Auburn fans down here I was pretty sure both groups of fans were the dumbest people on earth.

Ebolapox
05-10-2011, 06:34 AM
When I lived in Iowa I used to hate the Hawkeye and Cornfucker homers. I can't tell you how many folks I talked to would state (with a straight face) that coming off a 1-11 season Iowa had a good shot at winning the title. Win 1 game, next year title shot. Win 2 games, title shot. LMAO

Until getting to know Auburn fans down here I was pretty sure both groups of fans were the dumbest people on earth.

ROFL

holy shit. that's pretty damned bad.

factortobe
05-10-2011, 06:49 AM
wow. WE'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE. HOLY SHIT, HE'S GOT THE ****ING INSIDE SCOOP THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE. HAY, DO YUO HAV TEH LOTTREY #S FOR 2MORROW? HORRAY WE IS ALL RICH NOW, BIDCH!

so you can regain some dignity, I'll be glad to eat some crow on the kid when he leads us to a playoff win.

until then, stanzi by your man (and show the world you love him).


:popcorn:

Ebolapox
05-10-2011, 07:00 AM
:popcorn:

stand 100% behind it. I'll do a fucking backflip if he's the fucker that can get us a playoff win.

aturnis
05-10-2011, 09:58 AM
Yup, doesn't support your argument, couldn't be true.

Ebolapox
05-10-2011, 01:08 PM
COME ON ATURNIS, TIME FOR A BRO HUG!

aturnis
05-10-2011, 05:21 PM
Hell, my arguing isn't even so much my "love" for Stanzi(whom I do like) as it is my dislike of most all of the other QB's in this draft. Any other year, I wouldn't consider Stanzi to be in the same league as the top prospects. This year though, when the talk of the draft are Jamarcus Russel part deux and an unimpressive guy from a college program that does a very poor job of developing NFL talent.