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ROYC75
05-05-2011, 09:13 AM
Heh, we killed their cash cow, they are pissed off we may stop the billions of $ sent to them a year. They didn't like the fact we called them ,basically stupid !

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110505/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_bin_laden_69

ISLAMABAD Pakistan warned America Thursday of "disastrous consequences" if it carries out any more raids against terrorists like the one that killed Osama bin Laden, and hit back at international allegations it may have been harboring the al-Qaida chief.

But the government in Islamabad stopped short of labeling Monday's helicopter raid on bin Laden's compound an illegal operation and insisted relations between Washington and Islamabad remained on course.

With calls from some U.S. lawmakers to cut aid to Pakistan following the raid, the European Union said it would not turn its back on the nuclear-armed nation that is seen by many as key to helping negotiate an end to the war in Afghanistan.

The army and the government have come under criticism domestically for allowing the country's sovereignty to be violated. Some critics have expressed doubts about government claims that it was not aware of the raid until after it was over or scolded it for not reacting quickly enough and shooting down the helicopters.

Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir's remarks seemed to be aimed chiefly at addressing that criticism.

"The Pakistan security forces are neither incompetent nor negligent about their sacred duty to protect Pakistan," he told reporters. "There shall not be any doubt that any repetition of such an act will have disastrous consequences," he said.

Bashir repeated Pakistani claims that it did not know anything about the raid until it was too late to stop it. He said the army scrambled two F-16 fighter jets when it was aware that foreign helicopters were hovering over the city of Abbottabad, not far from the capital Islamabad, but they apparently did not get to the choppers on time.

American officials have said they didn't inform Pakistan in advance, fearing bin Laden could be tipped off.

Elements of Pakistan's army and Inter-Services Intelligence agency have long been suspected of maintaining links to Islamist militants, mostly for use as proxies in Afghanistan and Pakistan. While the country has worked with the United States to arrest many al-Qaida operatives since 2001, suspicion lingers it is playing a double game.

[Related: Afghan vet: The enemy is still dangerous]

The leaders of Britain and France, as well as U.S. officials, have said Pakistan has questions to answer over bin Laden's location in a large house close to an army academy in a garrison town.

Bashir said it was "absolutely wrong" to blame the ISI. "After all there was information within the U.S. system about those who were ultimately, eventually responsible for the 9/11 (attacks), so it's not for me to say that the U.S. government or the CIA failed to prevent that," he said.

While some U.S. lawmakers have taken a tough line, President Barack Obama and other American officials have been more cautious, realizing that downgrading or severing ties with the country would be risky.

Bashir said perceptions that Pakistan's ties with Washington were at rock bottom were untrue.

"We acknowledge the United States is an important friend," he said. "Basically Pakistan and U.S. relations are moving in the right direction."

EU spokesman Michael Mann said Thursday "there can be no doubt" Pakistan would remain an important partner in the region even amid the allegations.

RubberSponge
05-05-2011, 09:30 AM
Fuck Pakistan. Give the billions to India instead. Make China finally deal with that mess in their region.

LOCOChief
05-05-2011, 09:36 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110505/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_bin_laden_69

ISLAMABAD Pakistan warned America Thursday of "disastrous consequences" . "There shall not be any doubt that any repetition of such an act will have disastrous consequences," he said.

Bashir repeated Pakistani claims that it did not know anything about the raid until it was too late to stop it. He said the army scrambled two F-16 fighter jets when it was aware that foreign helicopters were hovering over the city of Abbottabad, not far from the capital Islamabad, but they apparently did not get to the choppers on time..

Hmmm wonder what would've happened if the F-16s that we built and sold them would have reached the helicopter on time?

**** pakistan
**** pakistani people
**** Bashir

Cut them off now.

ChiefsCountry
05-05-2011, 09:38 AM
Fuck them. Did they just see what our special ops did? Just wait to see our full force military could do.

KILLER_CLOWN
05-05-2011, 09:43 AM
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Iowanian
05-05-2011, 09:46 AM
**** Pakistan. Give the billions to India instead. Make China finally deal with that mess in their region.

Thanks for making my post for me.


If Pakistan wants to act like the double dealing, lying, untrustworthy asspipes that they are, then shut off their money and tell them we're giving it to India.


They don't think their security forces are laughable? They had the #1 terrorist target across the street from 3 battalions of troops, who couldn't make it 1/4mile in 45 minutes to see who was blowing shit up and firing weapons and flying the foreign choppers.


Let Mexico bring 4 choppers within site of a large military installation on our soil unannounced and see what would happen.


Pakistan is a dickholster too.

Phobia
05-05-2011, 09:47 AM
I am hereby warning Pakistan of disastrous consequences should they carry out disastrous consequences on the U.S. Pakistan will be glowing for 500 years.

Phobia
05-05-2011, 09:48 AM
I'm going to spill two slurpees at 7-11 every day for a week.

Count Zarth
05-05-2011, 09:50 AM
I'm going to spill two slurpees at 7-11 every day for a week.

I enjoy it when you get down in DC.

Iowanian
05-05-2011, 09:51 AM
I'm going to protest by putting scent trees into random taxicabs.

Cave Johnson
05-05-2011, 09:52 AM
I'm cribbing this, Pakistan is too big to fail as a nation-state (nukes, etc). They clearly know this and act accordingly.

I'm not happy about their saber-rattling, but it is what it is.

blaise
05-05-2011, 09:56 AM
They have to say that. If someone comes in your country and conducts military operations, you have to say something.

Chocolate Hog
05-05-2011, 10:11 AM
Thanks for making my post for me.


If Pakistan wants to act like the double dealing, lying, untrustworthy asspipes that they are, then shut off their money and tell them we're giving it to India.


They don't think their security forces are laughable? They had the #1 terrorist target across the street from 3 battalions of troops, who couldn't make it 1/4mile in 45 minutes to see who was blowing shit up and firing weapons and flying the foreign choppers.


Let Mexico bring 4 choppers within site of a large military installation on our soil unannounced and see what would happen.


Pakistan is a dickholster too.

Good thing we didn't show the pics of OBL. Pakistan might get upset.

Cave Johnson
05-05-2011, 10:14 AM
They have to say that. If someone comes in your country and conducts military operations, you have to say something.

Yet people still overreact.

vailpass
05-05-2011, 10:14 AM
They have to say that. If someone comes in your country and conducts military operations, you have to say something.

Yep. Pakistan doesn't want any part of us and it is in our best interest to remain on good terms with all nuke capable countries.

Iowanian
05-05-2011, 10:21 AM
Good thing we didn't show the pics of OBL. Pakistan might get upset.


Maybe they should be sent those pics of the last guys who threatened American troops, who resided in Pakistan.

BigMeatballDave
05-05-2011, 02:48 PM
Can we please stop sending aid to this shithole of a country.

BigMeatballDave
05-05-2011, 02:50 PM
Fuck Pakistan. Give the billions to India instead. Make China finally deal with that mess in their region.Fuck India, as well. Keep that money here.

vailpass
05-05-2011, 02:50 PM
Can we please stop sending aid to this shithole of a country.

We need to keep serving them pot roast but we need to put a few more fish hooks in it. Don't need a nuke capable country going full and blatant terrorist supportive.

BigMeatballDave
05-05-2011, 03:09 PM
Yet people still overreact.If someone is giving me $3B/yr., I'm kissing their ass. Fuck Pakistan.

orange
05-05-2011, 03:11 PM
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BucEyedPea
05-05-2011, 03:13 PM
They have to say that. If someone comes in your country and conducts military operations, you have to say something.

Yup! People don't realize that Pakistan has a tricky situation where they can't appear to be too much in the US corner, or suffer consequences. It's a Muslim country with a militant wing. It's a sad state of affairs when knee-jerk jingoist responses such a nuking them are uttered. We'd be highly pissed if a foreign nation did that here. Then again, we may never know if someone did know about this mission, within their govt but kept it among a very few, just to protect the govt from their people overthrowing them. They can at least claim ignorance. I know I have a hard time believing 4 helicopters made it from Jalalabad without any detection by Pakistan.

FAX
05-05-2011, 03:16 PM
Those poor Pakistanis. Perhaps, in future, they should avoid harboring terrorist masterminds.

I wonder if it's possible to wipe out their nuclear arsenal using some kind of smart bomb technology or space-based lasers or by hacking their computer systems and targeting Islamabad's public restrooms which, according to media reports, are kind of dirty anyhow.

FAX

go bowe
05-05-2011, 03:18 PM
Yup! People don't realize that Pakistan has a tricky situation where they can't appear to be too much in the US corner, or suffer consequences. It's a Muslim country with a militant wing. It's a sad state of affairs when knee-jerk jingoist responses such a nuking them are uttered. We'd be highly pissed if a foreign nation did that here. Then again, we may never know if someone did know about this mission, within their govt but kept it among a very few, just to protect the govt from their people overthrowing them. They can at least claim ignorance. I know I have a hard time believing 4 helicopters made it from Jalalabad without any detection by Pakistan.stealthy helo's flying very low, following the contour of the land did not in fact get detected by pakistan...

what's hard to believe?

BucEyedPea
05-05-2011, 03:21 PM
Those poor Pakistanis. Perhaps, in future, they should avoid harboring terrorist masterminds.
How to you know if they are literally "harboring" which sounds like they had knowledge of who was there when even neighbors didn't know?

I mean really, isn't this jumping to conclusions when there's no clear evidence of this. Especially when the hijackers of 9/11 lived in the United States too? Does that mean we harbored terrorists?

BTW OBL was not the operational mastermind but the figurehead. That dubious distinction goes to al-Zawahiri who is still at large.

vailpass
05-05-2011, 03:21 PM
Those poor Pakistanis. Perhaps, in future, they should avoid harboring terrorist masterminds.

I wonder if it's possible to wipe out their nuclear arsenal using some kind of smart bomb technology or space-based lasers or by hacking their computer systems and targeting Islamabad's public restrooms which, according to media reports, are kind of dirty anyhow.

FAX

I'm all for that.

Jerm
05-05-2011, 03:23 PM
Shits getting real now.

I doubt we fuck with Pakistan too much and vice versa unless the endgame is to possibly start WWIII.

BigMeatballDave
05-05-2011, 03:25 PM
I mean really, isn't this jumping to conclusions when there's no clear evidence of this. Especially when the hijackers of 9/11 lived in the United States too? Does that mean we harbored terrorists?

:spock: Seriously? GFY.

BucEyedPea
05-05-2011, 03:25 PM
I'm all for that.

Interesting. Looks like I'm gonna have to reconsider voting another R back in the White House along with many Independents, who will decide the next election. Most Americans are war weary....70%! I don't think they'd go for this. If anything this is a good time to end our mission in Afghanistan.

DJ's left nut
05-05-2011, 03:25 PM
I'm cribbing this, Pakistan is too big to fail as a nation-state (nukes, etc). They clearly know this and act accordingly.

I'm not happy about their saber-rattling, but it is what it is.

A drawn saber is silent...

Pakistan's talking because they feel they have to. If they were going to take action, they wouldn't be running their mouths right now.

Nothing to see here.

BucEyedPea
05-05-2011, 03:26 PM
:spock: Seriously? GFY.

;) I understand how a good knee-jerk reaction can alleviate stress.

BucEyedPea
05-05-2011, 03:27 PM
A drawn saber is silent...

Pakistan's talking because they feel they have to. If they were going to take action, they wouldn't be running their mouths right now.

Nothing to see here.

Good points!

|Zach|
05-05-2011, 04:14 PM
A drawn saber is silent...

Pakistan's talking because they feel they have to. If they were going to take action, they wouldn't be running their mouths right now.

Nothing to see here.

Agreed. Of course I feel the same way about Iran.

RNR
05-05-2011, 04:23 PM
A drawn saber is silent...

Pakistan's talking because they feel they have to. If they were going to take action, they wouldn't be running their mouths right now.

Nothing to see here.

Outstanding post! They have some answering to do for allowing this shitbag safe haven. Of course they are barking because they have seen our bite and want no part of it~

KILLER_CLOWN
05-05-2011, 10:37 PM
China's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu
China has criticized the United States for violating' Pakistan's sovereignty by carrying out a military operation to kill al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.


“China holds that the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of any country should be respected,” Xinhua news agency quoted Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu as saying at a regular news briefing in the capital Beijing on Thursday.

Jiang noted that the global anti-terrorism situation is still "grim and complex," calling for more international cooperation to fight the threat.

"The international community should boost their cooperation and make more efforts to counter the threat of international terrorism," she said.

The Chinese official added that Pakistan is a country at the front-line of anti-terrorism and that the international community should "give more understanding and support" to the country.

"We will continue to support Pakistan in instituting their own anti-terrorism strategies and carrying them out based on their domestic situation, and we appreciate Pakistan's active participation in the international anti-terrorism cooperation," Jiang said.

US President Barack Obama claimed that Osama bin Laden was killed by US forces on May 1 in a hiding compound in Pakistan, resisting while unarmed.

He added that the military mission was conducted without the knowledge of Pakistani authorities due to US mistrust of their purported South Asia ally.

A US official later announced that bin Laden's body was abruptly buried at sea, falsely boasting that his hasty burial was in accordance with the Islamic law, requiring burial within 24 hours of death.

However, burial at sea is not an Islamic practice and Islam does not have a decree on a burial timeframe.

US officials also claimed their decision of the sea burial was made because no country would accept bin Laden's remains, without elaborating on which countries were actually contacted on the matter.

Analysts, however, have raised serious questions as to why US officials did not allow for the application of a DNA test to officially confirm the identity of the corpse before the quick sea burial.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/178415.html

Direckshun
05-05-2011, 10:43 PM
DJ's left nut is absolutely right.

This is playing to their base. They have to talk tough because... well, that's really all you can do when you're caught with your pants down.

It's hard to argue that we should cut Pakistani aid because of their role with Afghanistan, but I say we attach strings to the aid: if you accept our billions of aid, we get free reign throughout Waziristan. And put Pakistan behind the 8 ball for once.

Frankie
05-05-2011, 10:43 PM
Meanwhile:

Pakistan pays U.S. lobbyists to deny it helped bin Laden

REUTERS

By Tim Reid – Thu May 5, 6:53 pm ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Pakistan's Washington lobbyists have launched an intense campaign on Capitol Hill to counter accusations that Islamabad was complicit in giving refuge to Osama bin Laden.

Alarmed by lawmakers' demands to cut off billions of dollars of U.S. aid after bin Laden was found living in a Pakistani safe house for six years, President Asif Ali Zardari has ordered a full-court press to quell mounting accusations that it helped the al Qaeda leader avoid capture.

Mark Siegel, a partner in the Washington lobbying firm of Locke Lord Strategies -- which is paid $75,000 a month by the Pakistani government -- told Reuters on Thursday he had spoken twice to Zardari since U.S. special forces killed bin Laden on Sunday, and "countless" times to the Pakistani ambassador in Washington.

"They are certainly concerned," Siegel said, adding that suggestions the Pakistani government knew about bin Laden's whereabouts was nothing more than speculation.

Referring to a statement by President Barack Obama's counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, that there must have been a support system for bin Laden inside Pakistan, Siegel said: "There is no proof that a support system was government-based."

There is much at stake for Pakistan as many lawmakers question how bin Laden could have lived in a large fortified compound close to a Pakistani military base for so long.

Some members of Congress are now demanding that nearly $3 billion in annual aid for Pakistan, included in Obama's 2012 budget, be blocked until the Zardari administration explains how bin Laden lived untouched just 30 miles outside Islamabad, the Pakistani capital. Pakistan has received over $20 billion in U.S. aid since the September 11, 2001, attacks.

Patrick Leahy, the Democratic chairman of the Senate subcommittee that allocates foreign aid, said on Thursday he wants a complete review of U.S. aid to Pakistan.

Leahy said he was certain that some Pakistani military and intelligence officials knew that bin Laden was hiding so close to Islamabad.
"It's impossible for them not to have some idea he was there," Leahy told Vermont Public Radio.

But Siegel, referring to claims by the Afghan government that Pakistan must have known bin Laden's whereabouts, said: "Must have known doesn't mean knew."

Siegel's firm was retained by the Zardari government in 2008 and has earned nearly $2 million in fees since then, according to Justice Department records. Siegel said his firm is paid $900,000 a year by Pakistan.

Since bin Laden's death, Siegel says he has been on Capitol Hill every day to promote Pakistan's position on the bin Laden killing, talking to congressmen, senators and their aides.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_binladen_pakistan_lobbying


IT'S A F@#%ED UP WORLD, I TELLS YA!!

redsurfer11
05-06-2011, 04:24 AM
I'm going to protest by putting scent trees into random taxicabs.


Pour some warm Bacon Fat on the floor.

HonestChieffan
05-06-2011, 05:18 AM
We give money to Paki's so they can hire a guy to get them more money.

Time to say FU to these bastards and let the desert swallow them all in famine

BigOlChiefsfan
05-06-2011, 10:49 AM
A saying from that part of the world "The dogs all bark, but the caravan does not stop".

vailpass
05-06-2011, 10:53 AM
A saying from that part of the world "The dogs all bark, but the caravan does not stop".

A saying from this part of the world "If I'm paying you big dollars you had better be sucking my cock".