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orange
05-06-2011, 01:22 PM
Ahmadinejad allies charged with sorcery

Iranian power struggle between president and supreme leader sees arrests and claims of undue influence of chief of staff


Saeed Kamali Dehghan guardian.co.uk, Thursday 5 May 2011 19.23 BST

Close allies of Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, have been accused of using supernatural powers to further his policies amid an increasingly bitter power struggle between him and the country's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Several people said to be close to the president and his chief of staff, Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, have been arrested in recent days and charged with being "magicians" and invoking djinns (spirits).

Ayandeh, an Iranian news website, described one of the arrested men, Abbas Ghaffari, as "a man with special skills in metaphysics and connections with the unknown worlds".

The arrests come amid a growing rift between Ahmadinejad and Khamenei which has prompted several MPs to call for the president to be impeached.

On Sunday, Ahmadinejad returned to his office after an 11-day walkout in an apparent protest over Khamenei's reinstatement of the intelligence minister, who the president had initiallyasked to resign.

Ahmadinejad's unprecedented disobedience prompted harsh criticism from conservatives who warned that he might face the fate of Abdulhassan Banisadr, Iran's first post-revolution president who was impeached and exiled for allegedly attempting to undermine clerical power.

Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi, a hardline cleric close to Khamenei, warned that disobeying the supreme leader who has the ultimate power in Iran is equivalent to "apostasy from God".

Ahmadinejad has so far declined to officially back Khamenei's ruling over Heydar Moslehi, the minister at the centre of the row. In the first cabinet meeting since the president returned, Moslehi was absent.

Khamenei's supporters believe that the top-level confrontation stems from the increasing influence of Mashaei, an opponent of greater involvement of clerics in politics, who is being groomed by Ahmadinejad as a possible successor.

But the feud has taken a metaphysical turn following the release of an Iranian documentary alleging the imminent return of the Hidden Imam Mahdi the revered saviour of Shia Islam, whose reappearance is anticipated by believers in a manner comparable to that with which Christian fundamentalists anticipate the second coming of Jesus.

Conservative clerics, who say that the Mahdi's return cannot be predicted, have accused a "deviant current" within the president's inner circle, including Mashaei, of being responsible for the film.

Ahmadinejad's obsession with the hidden imam is well known. He often refers to him in his speeches and in 2009 said that he had documentary evidence that the US was trying to prevent Mahdi's return.

Since Ahmadinejad's return this week, at least 25 people, who are believed to be close to Mashaei, have been arrested. Among them is Abbas Amirifar, head of the government's cultural committee and some journalists of Mashaei's recently launched newspaper, Haft-e-Sobh.

On Saturday, Mojtaba Zolnour, Khamenei's deputy representative in the powerful Revolutionary Guard, said: "Today Mashaei is the actual president. Mr Ahmadinejad has held on to a decaying rope by relying on Mashaei."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/05/ahmadinejad-allies-charged-with-sorcery

orange
05-06-2011, 01:22 PM
Why can't western conspiricists come up with something like this?

BucEyedPea
05-06-2011, 01:45 PM
Somehow I get a picture of donger on a magic carpet ride.

Mr. Kotter
05-06-2011, 01:49 PM
Somehow I get a picture of donger on a magic carpet ride.

Somehow I'm getting a picture of BEP on a magic donger ride. :eek:

Just sayin'....

vailpass
05-06-2011, 01:53 PM
"invoking djinns "
Frigging cool. Orange is right, we need some of this action in our politics.

Huffmeister
05-06-2011, 02:16 PM
Why can't western conspiricists come up with something like this?

Really. Tell me how a coven of witches brought down WTC7 and I might actually pay attention.

scott free
05-06-2011, 03:06 PM
Freddy vs. Jason... no matter who wins, a psycho is still on the loose.

go bowe
05-06-2011, 03:16 PM
it would be better for us if ahmanutjob were to break away from the clerical rule and actually follow their constitution...

he might get the support of the army, which if i'm not mistaken outnumbers the republican guard...

he'd definitely get the support of the populace...

i'd much rather have ahmanutjob actually running iran instead of the mullahs...

Rain Man
05-06-2011, 08:05 PM
it would be better for us if ahmanutjob were to break away from the clerical rule and actually follow their constitution...

he might get the support of the army, which if i'm not mistaken outnumbers the republican guard...

he'd definitely get the support of the populace...

i'd much rather have ahmanutjob actually running iran instead of the mullahs...


Really? While the mullahs are nutjobs as well, my impression was that Khameini was actually more savvy and more reasonable than ahmanutjob. I could be wrong since I'm not exactly well-read, though.

Either way, it seems like infighting is a good thing. I think discord is always going to be better than unity where Iran is concerned.

go bowe
05-06-2011, 08:33 PM
Really? While the mullahs are nutjobs as well, my impression was that Khameini was actually more savvy and more reasonable than ahmanutjob. I could be wrong since I'm not exactly well-read, though.

Either way, it seems like infighting is a good thing. I think discord is always going to be better than unity where Iran is concerned.
it's entirely possible that the supreme leader is actually more savvy and relatively more reasonable than ahmanutjob, but breaking the grip of the mullahs could ultimately lead to the restoration of democracy in iran, even if ahmanutjob is worse in the short term...

HonestChieffan
05-07-2011, 05:19 PM
These people are all freaking nuts. Pure Tee nuts. Let em all kill each other

Jaric
05-09-2011, 07:38 AM
To be fair, this is a picture of one of the allies being accused of socery.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2jt7duqVzmQ/S8Hm22XPiYI/AAAAAAAAA9s/YmYgRWk9fNg/s320/Gandalf%2Bthe%2BWhite.jpg

I can see where the misunderstanding came from.

EDIT: So upon further review, he does have the appropriate muslim beard... Maybe there is something to these allegations.