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mlyonsd
05-06-2011, 03:38 PM
Journalists Shield Obama From Road Rage Over High Gas Prices

By Dan Gainor
Published May 06, 2011
| FoxNews.com

The long-awaited demise of Usama bin Laden (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/iraq/osama-bin-laden.htm#r_src=ramp) still dominates the news. But the feel-good story of justice finally served will soon have a hard time competing with the feel-bad story of high gas prices.

The price of a gallon of gasoline is at $3.98 as of Friday May 6. And it’s only going higher. The price will likely hit $4 a gallon sometime soon, despite a big drop in the price of oil, and head toward record highs soon after.

You read that right – record highs. When Obama took over in January 2009, gas was a "mere" $1.84 a gallon. Now, "mere" is what’s left in our wallets after filling up.

And it’s all deliberate.

It’s not your standard lefty war “about oil” (http://www.alternet.org/story/12205/?page=entire) conspiracy. There’s no grand cabal pumping up gas prices to the point where ordinary Americans can’t afford to drive.

No. High gas prices are the natural result of a series of decisions by the Obama administration that are geared to hiking the cost of fuel, limiting how much we drive and controling one more asepct of Americans’ lives.

Obama isn’t the only factor. Mideast politics, wars – including Obama’s new one in Libya (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/libya.htm#r_src=ramp) – and global demand all have impact, too.

What’s more, this high price reflects what most of the left believe it should be and is thoroughly embraced by the elite media who know they’ll still be able to pull up to a pump and afford $50 or $75 for a fill-up.

If you remember the last time we hopped on this roller coaster, much of this should seem familiar – only the presidents have changed. To journalists, that means everything.

In 2008, high gas prices were a media crisis. We had news outlets doing stories about telecommuting, people (even ABC staffers) (http://www.mrc.org/bmi/articles/2008/ABC_Anchors_Bike_to_Work_Man_Sings_Protest_Song_about_Gas_Prices_.html) riding their bikes or riding horses to work. “And one Indiana resident gained attention last week from supporters as well as the police, who arrested him after he put on an unauthorized concert on the roof of a gas station, all in protest of high fuel prices,” ABC’s Bianna Golodryga told the “Good Morning America (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/entertainment/tv-shows/good-morning-america.htm#r_src=ramp)” audience. Highlighting “desperate” drivers, she even included a song snippet: “Price gouging, so we’re shouting, who’s jacking up the cost of fuel,” sang Jay Weinberg.

Throughout the gas price spikes, President Bush and Vice President Cheney (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/dick-cheney.htm#r_src=ramp) were treated like they were Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader because they had connections to the oil industry. Somehow having experience in an industry became a dark and sordid conspiracy. The oil industry was even accused of manipulating the price of gas (http://www.slate.com/id/2150903/) to alter the 2006 election.

Stories about horrible price hikes were used to undermine the Bush presidency. In all, the networks linked Bush to rising oil prices 15 times more (http://www.mrc.org/bmi/articles/2011/Networks_Link_Bush_to_Skyrocketing_Gas_Prices__Times_More_Than_Obama.html) than they did Obama in similar time periods.

That’s why the gas crisis in 2011 is something entirely different. Obama has shown you don’t need oil connections to pump up the price of gas. It’s gone up more than $2 in just over two years. At that rate, ordinary drivers will have to sell a kidney just to drive to the polls and vote him out in 2012.

Obama’s attacked drilling off shore, criticized oil profits and even called the black crude “yesterday’s energy” (http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/140223-oil-industry-pans-obamas-state-of-the-union-address) in his State of the Union address.

Throw in concern for new government regulation and it all impacts prices.

Newsflash for President Obama (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/obama-administration/barack-obama.htm#r_src=ramp): There are about 246 million autos in the United States (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/u.s.htm#r_src=ramp), most of them using “yesterday’s energy” so we can all go to work, church and go see our loved ones. Yesterday’s energy works. It’s today’s politicians that need some improvement.

But the news media like the attack on Big Oil. The Business & Media Institute at the Media Research Center found that Obama’s anti-oil actions rarely made the reports about the 2010 Deepwater Horizon (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/energy/deepwater-horizon.htm#r_src=ramp) oil spill. Only 1 percent of the 280 oil price stories the network evening shows aired mentioned Obama's drilling ban or other anti-oil.

Journalists would like nothing better than to see America become an eco-state like Europe – where gas prices top out at 1.72 (http://www.energy.eu/#Prices). Sadly, that’s measured in liters and Euros. Do a little quick math and a gallon of gas in Denmark (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/denmark.htm#r_src=ramp) runs you close to $10.

That’s the path we’re on here when the government targets an industry for attack. The recent movie “Atlas Shrugged” depicted gas prices that had spiked much higher than that. It may prove prophetic as Americans learn what life is like under a president who cares more about dogma than drivers.

Dan Gainor is the Boone Pickens Fellow and the Media Research Center’s Vice President for Business and Culture. His column appears each week on The Fox Forum. He can also be contacted on FaceBook (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/facebook.htm#r_src=ramp) and Twitter (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/twitter.htm#r_src=ramp) as dangainor.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/06/journalists-shield-obama-road-rage-high-gas-prices-bush-didnt-catch-break/

mlyonsd
05-06-2011, 03:38 PM
Nailed it.

Brock
05-06-2011, 03:47 PM
"Blaming the prez for high gas prices is stoopid!!!" /2005

Direckshun
05-06-2011, 03:49 PM
I don't know what the conservative line against Obama is on gas prices. I don't even know if there is one.

I've simultaneously read two strands of thought. One is that "the President should do something," followed by choruses of agreement. The other, regarding Obama considering investigating price gouging by gas companies, was criticized as a Presidential overreach.

What's the conservative line here? Thanks in advance.

orange
05-06-2011, 03:56 PM
And it’s all deliberate.

It’s not your standard lefty war “about oil” (http://www.alternet.org/story/12205/?page=entire) conspiracy. There’s no grand cabal pumping up gas prices to the point where ordinary Americans can’t afford to drive.

No. High gas prices are the natural result of a series of decisions by the Obama administration that are geared to hiking the cost of fuel, limiting how much we drive and controling one more asepct of Americans’ lives.


Ok, this should be good.

That’s why the gas crisis in 2011 is something entirely different. Obama has shown you don’t need oil connections to pump up the price of gas. It’s gone up more than $2 in just over two years. At that rate, ordinary drivers will have to sell a kidney just to drive to the polls and vote him out in 2012.

Obama’s attacked drilling off shore, criticized oil profits and even called the black crude “yesterday’s energy” (http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/140223-oil-industry-pans-obamas-state-of-the-union-address) in his State of the Union address.

Throw in concern for new government regulation and it all impacts prices.


That's the smoking gun??! You're kidding, right?

Next you'll be telling me he summoned djinns to do it.

BigRichard
05-06-2011, 03:59 PM
I don't recall ever bitching that the prez should have done something about the gas prices back the last time prices shot up to $4 a gallon but I do remember others doing it. I may be guilty though. Not that I am a fan of either president.

I think the difference now is that people were actually expecting it. The first time everyone was all WTF is up with gas prices. This time people knew it would shoot up again, just not when.

blaise
05-06-2011, 04:21 PM
Look at the gas prices! Bush did this y'all! No war for oil and Bush is like involved in Big Oil! Price gouging and stuff! You know, like, George Bush and stuff!

go bowe
05-06-2011, 04:38 PM
* * *
No. High gas prices are the natural result of a series of decisions by the Obama administration that are geared to hiking the cost of fuel, limiting how much we drive and controling one more asepct of Americans’ lives.

Obama isn’t the only factor. Mideast politics, wars – including Obama’s new one in Libya – and global demand all have impact, too.
* * *
seriously?

obama has made a series of decisions geared to hiking gas prices?

he WANT'S gas prices to go up?

right, he secretly wants to be a one-term president...

Donger
05-06-2011, 04:44 PM
he WANT'S gas prices to go up?

Yes, but he wanted them to go up gradually.

Donger
05-06-2011, 04:45 PM
I don't know what the conservative line against Obama is on gas prices. I don't even know if there is one.

I've simultaneously read two strands of thought. One is that "the President should do something," followed by choruses of agreement. The other, regarding Obama considering investigating price gouging by gas companies, was criticized as a Presidential overreach.

What's the conservative line here? Thanks in advance.

That the people who screamed that Bush was responsible for the surge in crude in 2008 should be screaming now as well. Or, admit that their screaming at Bush was misplaced and wrong.

Pitt Gorilla
05-06-2011, 04:47 PM
That the people who screamed that Bush was responsible for the surge in crude in 2008 should be screaming now as well. Or, admit that their screaming at Bush was misplaced and wrong.People are worried about what people SHOULD BE complaining about? Really?

AndChiefs
05-06-2011, 04:52 PM
Yes, but he wanted them to go up gradually.

All depends on your definition of gradual.

Donger
05-06-2011, 04:54 PM
People are worried about what people SHOULD BE complaining about? Really?

Only if you care about blatant hypocrisy, sure.

Donger
05-06-2011, 04:54 PM
All depends on your definition of gradual.

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Fish
05-06-2011, 04:59 PM
Why does everyone think that the U.S., and more specifically Obama, has control over the prices of oil? I just don't get it.

The price of beef has went up too. Does that mean Obama hates meat?

Why hasn't Obama taken control of these markets and magically lowered prices?

orange
05-06-2011, 05:00 PM
That the people who screamed that Bush was responsible for the surge in crude in 2008 should be screaming now as well. Or, admit that their screaming at Bush was misplaced and wrong.

Video of Obama in 2008 NOT screaming at Bush for the record gas prices on his watch

:hmmm:

Only if you care about blatant hypocrisy, sure.

Do YOU care about blatant hypocrisy?

Donger
05-06-2011, 05:01 PM
:hmmm:



Do YOU care about blatant hypocrisy?

Yes. I don't blame Obama for the high price of crude.

Donger
05-06-2011, 05:03 PM
Why does everyone think that the U.S., and more specifically Obama, has control over the prices of oil? I just don't get it.

The price of beef has went up too. Does that mean Obama hates meat?

Why hasn't Obama taken control of these markets and magically lowered prices?

I don't know that anyone does. What gets people angry is that the chorus of leftists who screamed that Bush was responsible for the spike in crude in 2008 are oddly silent now that Obama is in office.

Pitt Gorilla
05-06-2011, 05:09 PM
Only if you care about blatant hypocrisy, sure.So, people who were wrong SHOULD continue to be wrong? That seems really stupid.

Donger
05-06-2011, 05:13 PM
So, people who were wrong SHOULD continue to be wrong? That seems really stupid.

No, the people who were wrong about Bush in 2008 should admit they were wrong.

The people who are blaming Obama for the high price of crude now are just as wrong as those how blamed Bush in 2008.

orange
05-06-2011, 05:29 PM
No, the people who were wrong about Bush in 2008 should admit they were wrong.

The people who are blaming Obama for the high price of crude now are just as wrong as those how blamed Bush in 2008.

What about those who blamed Clinton in 2000?


can you guess where I'm heading?

mikey23545
05-06-2011, 05:29 PM
People are worried about what people SHOULD BE complaining about? Really?

Only if you want to be intellectually honest with yourself. But you're a liberal so just carry on...

Donger
05-06-2011, 05:33 PM
What about those who blamed Clinton in 2000?


can you guess where I'm heading?

Same.

Saul Good
05-06-2011, 05:39 PM
The same people who supported drilling in the US when Clinton was president were the same who supported it when Bush was president and are the same who support it now that Obama is president. The same goes for those who opposed it.

Drilling locally will either lower the price of oil, or it won't. If it does, America wins because of lower energy costs. If it doesn't, America wins because we would be pumping hundreds of billions of dollars worth of oil out of the ground.

redsurfer11
05-06-2011, 09:25 PM
Jimmy Carter was blamed for high gas prices in the 70's. He was a one term Prez. The same result will happen to Obomus in 2012, if prices continue to rise.

mlyonsd
05-07-2011, 07:48 AM
I don't know that anyone does. What gets people angry is that the chorus of leftists who screamed that Bush was responsible for the spike in crude in 2008 are oddly silent now that Obama is in office.Which of course is the point of the thread.

stevieray
05-07-2011, 08:26 AM
Only if you want to be intellectually honest with yourself.

good luck with that....:LOL:

dirk digler
05-07-2011, 01:40 PM
Oil just dropped 15% in a short amount of days.

Yeah there isn't any thing fishy going on with the speculators. :rolleyes:

mlyonsd
05-08-2011, 02:18 PM
Oil just dropped 15% in a short amount of days.

Yeah there isn't any thing fishy going on with the speculators. :rolleyes:
Any drop in oil prices now can be directly attributed to your presidents handling of our economy. :p

go bowe
05-08-2011, 02:20 PM
Any drop in oil prices now can be directly attributed to your presidents handling of our economy. :pwait, if it isn't his fault that the prices have skyrocketed, it isn't his fault when they go down...

oh wait, that's what you were saying...

carry on...

Pitt Gorilla
05-08-2011, 03:08 PM
good luck with that....:LOL:LOL at stevieray pontificating on anything (ostensibly) "intellectual."

RJ
05-08-2011, 06:01 PM
My memory isn't that good but it seems to me like most of the blame in 2008 went to the speculators. I remember receiving emails from some group that wanted me to email my congressmen and ask them to put a stop to whatever it was the speculators were doing. I did but they didn't. Put a stop, that is. And here we are three years later and they're doing it again. Whoever they are. I'm not real clear on that.

WV
05-08-2011, 06:08 PM
I do find it frustratingly humorous that there is no out cry at $4 gas now like there was when there was an R was president.

petegz28
05-08-2011, 10:43 PM
Weak $ = higher costs of everything

Yes...it IS that simple

petegz28
05-08-2011, 10:45 PM
My memory isn't that good but it seems to me like most of the blame in 2008 went to the speculators. I remember receiving emails from some group that wanted me to email my congressmen and ask them to put a stop to whatever it was the speculators were doing. I did but they didn't. Put a stop, that is. And here we are three years later and they're doing it again. Whoever they are. I'm not real clear on that.

They need to do with oil like they just did with silver and that is raise the margin requirements. Silver took a big hit when they did that because it moved out a lot of the small time daytraders.

Chocolate Hog
05-08-2011, 10:46 PM
We hear how the poor suffered under Regan but it should be argued Obama's policies have done more to hurt them.

petegz28
05-08-2011, 10:50 PM
Oil just dropped 15% in a short amount of days.

Yeah there isn't any thing fishy going on with the speculators. :rolleyes:

http://charts4.barchart.com/pl/chartcache/e5c7c313801f65cccf585092d7be715a.png

http://charts4.barchart.com/pl/chartcache/f11b38838397413b1fd7c97a1fd0feeb.png

Are we learning anything yet?

petegz28
05-08-2011, 10:53 PM
The Ben Bernank has more power over the price of oil than any President. Granted the drilling BS Obama has pulled has not helped anything.

Chief Faithful
05-09-2011, 07:48 AM
Why does everyone think that the U.S., and more specifically Obama, has control over the prices of oil? I just don't get it.

The price of beef has went up too. Does that mean Obama hates meat?

Why hasn't Obama taken control of these markets and magically lowered prices?

You are trying to compare oil to beef?? :doh!:

Amnorix
05-09-2011, 08:08 AM
Once again the amusing concept that the "left" controls the media rears its ugly head again.

Fox news, right wing dominance of radio airwaves and the historically unprecedented access to news sources through the Internet fade into the background to support this weird view of the world that hasn't been true for 20 or more years.

But I digress. Donger's accurate when eh says that Presidents have very little control over the price of gas. Not much else to say about it.

headsnap
05-09-2011, 08:09 AM
You are trying to compare oil to beef?? :doh!:

Obama needs to open up the plains of western Kansas for more grazing...



graze baby graze!!!!

InChiefsHell
05-09-2011, 08:57 AM
What the government can do about influencing the price of oil:

-End drilling denials in the US
-Allow more drilling and other uses of fuels like the oil sands-or whatever
-lower the federal tax on gasoline, which is currently 18 cents per gallon or so

That's about all I can think of. And these steps might make a difference, but not a huge one.

LOCOChief
05-09-2011, 09:38 AM
Stop burning food for oil.
Permits for new gulf oil exploration.
Build /bring new refineries on line.
Start telling the truth.

Saying US oil production is up is a liberal lie. You can plant a corn crop and have terrific 2010 yields but not plant a thing in 2011 what will you have? We're not permitting that means that when whatever we're extracting now runs out we have no place to go for more.


Get out of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya

InChiefsHell
05-09-2011, 10:27 AM
Also, end subsidies on Ethanol. If it's worth a shit it should be able to stand on its own.

Radar Chief
05-09-2011, 10:59 AM
Also, end subsidies on Ethanol. If it's worth a shit it should be able to stand on its own.

I’ve been reading more and more about Hot Rodders setting up their carbureted engines to run E85 because it supports higher compression and came make more power from the same displacement when compared to plain ole pump gas.
I briefly tossed around the idea of building a high compression motor to run E85 because its like cheap race fuel, but:
1. In this little corner of S.E. Kansas I don’t have easy access to E85 and,
2. As soon as the government subsidies end E85 goes away.

vailpass
05-09-2011, 11:42 AM
I’ve been reading more and more about Hot Rodders setting up their carbureted engines to run E85 because it supports higher compression and came make more power from the same displacement when compared to plain ole pump gas.
I briefly tossed around the idea of building a high compression motor to run E85 because its like cheap race fuel, but:
1. In this little corner of S.E. Kansas I don’t have easy access to E85 and,
2. As soon as the government subsidies end E85 goes away.

Don't feel lonely about not having easy access to E85.
My Yukon can run on E85 but I there are less than 10 places that sell it in all of the Phoenix metro area ( around 4 million people) and none in Scottsdale/Cave Creek. I'v never once used it.

mlyonsd
05-09-2011, 01:08 PM
Once again the amusing concept that the "left" controls the media rears its ugly head again.

You've got it backwards. GE owns Obama.

Jaric
05-09-2011, 01:20 PM
Once again the amusing concept that the "left" controls the media rears its ugly head again.How do you explain all the hand wringing and teeth gnashing about "WINDFALL PROFITS!!!" the last time gas prices shot up under a Republican president and the comparative calmness this time around?

I'm not saying it's liberal bias, but there does appear to be two set of rules for the way these things are handled.

Amnorix
05-09-2011, 01:42 PM
You've got it backwards. GE owns Obama.

Have you seen a long form ownership certificate proving that that is true, in addition to having at least two contemporaneous newspaper articles in support, four eyewitnesses who swore, under oath, with their hand on their family bible, that they saw the event in person?

Until I see that I don't believe it. There's a GE employee in Kenya who swears it's not true and until I see the above evidence, I believe him.

Amnorix
05-09-2011, 01:45 PM
How do you explain all the hand wringing and teeth gnashing about "WINDFALL PROFITS!!!" the last time gas prices shot up under a Republican president and the comparative calmness this time around?

I'm not saying it's liberal bias, but there does appear to be two set of rules for the way these things are handled.


I think mostly because nobody for a second thinks THIS administration is in collusion with the oil majors. Not that the last one was, of course, but they had ties to the oil industry, etc., so people are going to be more suspicious.

Just like with BushCo nobody thought they were selling out America for the benefit of the unions, but many on the right think that Obama's administration is.

And only Nixon could go to China.

etc.

mlyonsd
05-09-2011, 02:55 PM
Have you seen a long form ownership certificate proving that that is true, in addition to having at least two contemporaneous newspaper articles in support, four eyewitnesses who swore, under oath, with their hand on their family bible, that they saw the event in person?

Until I see that I don't believe it. There's a GE employee in Kenya who swears it's not true and until I see the above evidence, I believe him.Yeah that was mostly TIC and I forgot the :p. Heaven forbid I be as hypocritical as some of the Bush bashing liberals on here during the last decade.

Radar Chief
05-09-2011, 03:08 PM
Don't feel lonely about not having easy access to E85.
My Yukon can run on E85 but I there are less than 10 places that sell it in all of the Phoenix metro area ( around 4 million people) and none in Scottsdale/Cave Creek. I'v never once used it.

As an everyday fuel I wouldn’t use it as more has to be burned per mile traveled so your gas mileage goes to shit.
Gas burns at an air/fuel ratio of around 14:1. E85 burns closer to 9:1 meaning more of fuel is literally being packed into the cylinders, which is where the power potential comes from.
For a weekend cruiser / hotrod the sacrifice in fuel mileage wouldn’t bug me nearly as much as long as I could squeeze some extra power out of it.

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vailpass
05-09-2011, 03:10 PM
As an everyday fuel I wouldn’t use it as more has to be burned per mile traveled so your gas mileage goes to shit.
Gas burns at an air/fuel ratio of around 14:1. E85 burns closer to 9:1 meaning more of fuel is literally being packed into the cylinders, which is where the power potential comes from.
For a weekend cruiser / hotrod the sacrifice in fuel mileage wouldn’t bug me nearly as much as long as I could squeeze some extra power out of it.

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Thanks, you know your shit. That explains why the guy at the dealership told me E85 wasn't any cheaper even though it cost less per gallon.
So WTF good is it?
LMAO at Tim Taylor all coked up and shifting.

Radar Chief
05-09-2011, 03:16 PM
So WTF good is it?

It makes tree huggers feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Radar Chief
05-09-2011, 03:18 PM
Thanks, you know your shit.

Thanks man, but only on a theoretical basis. It’s a subject that interests me so I do some reading on it. There are real mechanics with years of practical experience on this board and I’ll typically defer to their superior knowledge when it comes to model specific questions.