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Direckshun
05-23-2011, 08:35 AM
I just repealed the 22nd amendment, all by my lonesome. Presidents can now serve as many terms as they can get elected to.

Effective, immediately. And just in time for the 2012 primaries.

Question for conservatives:

How close would George W. Bush come to getting your vote in the 2012 primaries, considering the current field?

Broader question for everybody:

How do you think George W. Bush would fare in the 2012 primaries, considering the current field?

Jaric
05-23-2011, 08:39 AM
Unless everyone else but Rick Santorum dies mysteriously, I wouldn't see myself voting for either Bush.

Against Obama should he win the nomination...

Dear God I don't know. I find them both intolerable, Bush slightly less so but not by much.

Direckshun
05-23-2011, 08:44 AM
Unless everyone else but Rick Santorum dies mysteriously, I wouldn't see myself voting for either Bush.

Against Obama should he win the nomination...

Dear God I don't know. I find them both intolerable, Bush slightly less so but not by much.

I assume you mean "general election."

WV
05-23-2011, 08:47 AM
I assume you mean "general election."

I think he's speaking to the rumors of Hilary challenging BO for the Dem nomination.

Saul Good
05-23-2011, 08:57 AM
I think "he" refers to Bush, thus the sentiment is that Bush v Obama would be a tough choice.

FD
05-23-2011, 08:59 AM
I think realistically Obama would beat Bush by 8-10 points or more in a general election.

FD
05-23-2011, 09:05 AM
The main advantage Bush has right now is that hes an ex-President. Ex-Presidents always become more popular because they have the ability to stay out of day to day politics and be above the fray. They come across as classier, more magnanimous and less political than the politicians in the arena. As soon as Bush (or any ex-President for that matter) would come back into the arena this would all disappear and his favorability numbers would plummet.

blaise
05-23-2011, 09:18 AM
Direckshun was obviously daydreaming about an 8 term Obama presidency.

KILLER_CLOWN
05-23-2011, 09:19 AM
No need to go down the dictatorship road.

RedNeckRaider
05-23-2011, 09:27 AM
More interesting is how Jeb Bush will fair if he enters~

patteeu
05-23-2011, 09:28 AM
At the moment, I'd vote for GWBush over any of the others in the GOP primary. I'd be open to new blood though, especially since there is a strong streak of irrational anti-Bush sentiment out there that could make the general election dicey. It would all depend on how the primary season went as to whether any new blood would overtake GWBush in time to capture my vote.

I'd have no problem voting for the more classy, more competent, less socialistic, better diplomat GWBush over Obama in the general election.

Discuss Thrower
05-23-2011, 09:28 AM
In before "Draft Clinton for term #3?"

patteeu
05-23-2011, 09:29 AM
In before "Draft Clinton for term #3?"

blaise already beat you to it and raised you 5 terms.

mlyonsd
05-23-2011, 09:32 AM
I don't vote primaries but if I did I'd have to pick W over anyone in the GOP field.

I had hopes for Cain, but his interview with Chris Wallace yesterday didn't go very well in my eyes.

stevieray
05-23-2011, 09:41 AM
Presidents can now serve as many terms as they can get elected to.


That resembles more of a Democracy than a Republic.

I have no desire to engage in a mob rules mentality/society.

BigChiefFan
05-23-2011, 09:59 AM
No monarchs, thanks.

ClevelandBronco
05-23-2011, 10:04 AM
Since when have we needed to change the Constitution to elect someone who doesn't qualify to run?

dirk digler
05-23-2011, 10:07 AM
More interesting is how Jeb Bush will fair if he enters~

He is not running he just came out today and said no.

All the big names are out except for Palin who hasn't made up her mind yet.

So this is looking like it is Romney's nomination to lose

Saul Good
05-23-2011, 10:17 AM
On an unrelated note, Direckshun changes the Constitution the way Obama goes to war.

Jaric
05-23-2011, 10:31 AM
I think "he" refers to Bush, thus the sentiment is that Bush v Obama would be a tough choice.

This.

Bump
05-23-2011, 11:30 AM
Bush must need more oil money to pay for his aquifers, expect some bigger "terrorist" attacks

SNR
05-23-2011, 11:34 AM
I don't vote primaries but if I did I'd have to pick W over anyone in the GOP field.

I had hopes for Cain, but his interview with Chris Wallace yesterday didn't go very well in my eyes.
Link?

SNR
05-23-2011, 11:59 AM
Found it. I don't think this is that weak of an interview. Cain has been just like this in all the interviews I've seen. I can't say I like too many of his platforms, but at least he's talking about them differently.

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mlyonsd
05-23-2011, 12:24 PM
Found it. I don't think this is that weak of an interview. Cain has been just like this in all the interviews I've seen. I can't say I like too many of his platforms, but at least he's talking about them differently.

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I'll have to listen to it again when I get home but I thought the exchange talking about his plan to fix the debt crisis was awkward. What I remember is My plan this and My plan that and then My plan won't work now because it's too late to implement My plan.

Wallace was giving him the WTF are you serious? look. I know I was.

KILLER_CLOWN
05-23-2011, 12:50 PM
I'll have to listen to it again when I get home but I thought the exchange talking about his plan to fix the debt crisis was awkward. What I remember is My plan this and My plan that and then My plan won't work now because it's too late to implement My plan.

Wallace was giving him the WTF are you serious? look. I know I was.

He was on the Federal Reserve Board of directors, what exactly can we expect but more of the same?

FishingRod
05-23-2011, 01:05 PM
Those willing to look at our last two presidents without using their Republican or Democratic 3-d glasses probably will notice that we have way more in common in these two than differences. And yes I know me saying that pisses off both sides but what really ought to stick in their craw is that I am right. Obama has just taken the drunken sailor mentality of Government spending the Dubya had and ratcheted it up a couple more notches.

patteeu
05-23-2011, 01:30 PM
Those willing to look at our last two presidents without using their Republican or Democratic 3-d glasses probably will notice that we have way more in common in these two than differences. And yes I know me saying that pisses off both sides but what really ought to stick in their craw is that I am right. Obama has just taken the drunken sailor mentality of Government spending the Dubya had and ratcheted it up a couple more notches.

The main thing that disturbs me about your post is that I think you should have used "orders of magnitude" instead of "notches".

FishingRod
05-23-2011, 02:01 PM
The main thing that disturbs me about your post is that I think you should have used "orders of magnitude" instead of "notches".

Fair enough I do belive one sucks more but once you dig a hole as big as we have, it is a little like changing the size of the rocks you toss in the Grand Canyon in an effort to fill it up.

Hydrae
05-23-2011, 02:19 PM
He was on the Federal Reserve Board of directors, what exactly can we expect but more of the same?

He is a very strong supporter of the Fair Tax movement.

Ok, that is the extent of my knowledge of Herman Cain.

BucEyedPea
05-23-2011, 02:49 PM
Found it. I don't think this is that weak of an interview. Cain has been just like this in all the interviews I've seen. I can't say I like too many of his platforms, but at least he's talking about them differently.


Cain is being put up by the insiders, actually, despite his appearance as a new comer and outsider. Some are even calling him a Tea Partier which is a utter joke as his stands are in opposition to traditional conservatiism. He served the Chairman of the KC Federal Reserve and called on people to support the bank bailouts and bashes the free market. He plugs for central planning and oligarchy when you really find out more about him over his conservative sound-bites.

SNR
05-23-2011, 02:53 PM
Cain is an insider actually. A man for the Fed and bank bailouts. He's on record as saying everyone should have supported the bank bailouts.
I'm not sure if you're trying to educate me about some of these candidates or not. If you are, please stop. You do this all the time. I know about these characters. If you're not, then I apologize for my above comments which shouldn't have been directed at you.

BucEyedPea
05-23-2011, 02:58 PM
I'm not sure if you're trying to educate me about some of these candidates or not. If you are, please stop. You do this all the time. I know about these characters. If you're not, then I apologize for my above comments which shouldn't have been directed at you.

It was more a convenient place to post more about Cain and to add more. It would have been either you or mylonsd.
Gee don't get so offended. I don't always post to disagree but to just add more about what was being discussed. Yeah, I know where you stand on these guys.

BucEyedPea
05-23-2011, 02:59 PM
Also, Fox has been at it again using Frank Lutz when he had his panel of undecided voters endorsing Cain. The people chosen were the same ones in multiple shows 4 months apart in two different states. Luntz is a fraud.

KILLER_CLOWN
05-23-2011, 03:10 PM
Also, Fox has been at it again using Frank Lutz when he had his panel of undecided voters endorsing Cain. The people chosen were the same ones in multiple shows 4 months apart in two different states. Luntz is a fraud.

Imagine my shock! These paid propagandists are similiar to those used in the Town Hall meetings.

RedNeckRaider
05-23-2011, 03:15 PM
He is not running he just came out today and said no.

All the big names are out except for Palin who hasn't made up her mind yet.

So this is looking like it is Romney's nomination to lose

I had not read that. It is still too early as the brand damage is too recent. I do look for him to make a run following this election. So far the right has not offered up a candidate that is electable IMO After a 2nd term from Barry he has a much better chance~

whoman69
05-23-2011, 03:39 PM
At the moment, I'd vote for GWBush over any of the others in the GOP primary. I'd be open to new blood though, especially since there is a strong streak of irrational anti-Bush sentiment out there that could make the general election dicey. It would all depend on how the primary season went as to whether any new blood would overtake GWBush in time to capture my vote.

I'd have no problem voting for the more classy, more competent, less socialistic, better diplomat GWBush over Obama in the general election.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone speak about those being positives for Dubya before. Are you talking about his dad?

patteeu
05-23-2011, 04:58 PM
I don't think I've ever heard anyone speak about those being positives for Dubya before. Are you talking about his dad?

No, I'm talking about Obama's immediate predecessor. I didn't care for his dad (although he was certainly better than the current POTUS).