Minnesota Twins @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (6/3)

[alnorth]

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<tr> <td>Final</td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 2 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 9 </td><td> R </td><td> H </td><td> E </td></tr>
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<tr> <td> KC (25-32) </td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 9 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
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Carl Pavano gets his 100th win by throwing the 15th Complete Game of his MLB career.

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CG, (1); Win, (3-5) Carl Pavano 9IP 2R 2ER 1BB 4K

VS.

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Loss, (0-1) Danny Duffy 5IP 3R 3ER 3BB 3K 1HR
Tim Collins 1⅓IP 1R 1ER 1BB 1K
Blake Wood 1⅔IP 1R 1ER 0BB 2K
Everett Teaford 1IP 0R 0ER 1BB 0K

Home Runs

MIN

Michael Cuddyer, (6) - Top 3rd solo shot to center

KC

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Royals Prospects Today

AAA: Johnny Giavotella, (2B) 2/4 (1 double)
AAA: Mike Moustakas, (3B) 0/4, 1K
AAA: Lorenzo Cain, (CF) 2/4, 1K, 1HR (1 double)
AAA: Mike Montgomery, (SP) 6⅓IP 4R 4ER 4BB 3K 2HR
AA: Christian Colon, (SS) 1/3, 1BB
AA: Salvador Perez, (C) 0/3
Adv. A: Noel Arguelles, (SP) 5IP 1R 1ER 0BB 1K

Starting Lineups

MIN

1. Denard Span, CF
2. Alexi Casilla, SS
3. Justin Morneau, DH
4. Michael Cuddyer, 1B
5. Danny Valencia, 3B
6. Delmon Young, LF
7. Ben Revere, RF
8. Luke Hughes, 2B
9. Drew Butera, C

KC

1. Alex Gordon, LF
2. Melky Cabrera, CF
3. Eric Hosmer, 1B
4. Jeff Francoeur, RF
5. Billy Butler, DH
6. Wilson Betemit, 3B
7. Brayan Pena, C
8. Chris Getz, 2B
9. Alcides Escobar, SS

[SPchief]

I'm getting ready to head out to the stadium. Here's to Duffy getting his first win!

[MadMax]

anyone know why all the sudden im getting a stupid screen now on royals.com it wont let me see the games at all

[alnorth]

Top 1st

Span strikes out (swinging)
Casilla hits an infield single to second
Morneau flies out to left
Casilla steals second
Cuddyer walks
Valencia grounds into a 4-6 fielder's choice, Cuddyer out at second

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 1st

Gordon flies out to right
Cabrera singles to right
Hosmer strikes out (swinging)
Francoeur grounds out to pitcher

0 runs, 1 hit

[stonedstooge]

Nice to have you back alnorth. Hope you bring some luck

[syyrupp-mannn]

let's go royals!!!! Hopefully we can keep from allowing 8 runs again!

[stonedstooge]

Duff needs to develop a better move to first

[syyrupp-mannn]

Anyone know when Moose will be up?

[cabletech94]

Anyone know when Moose will be up?

just guessin. end of the month. mid july. gotta trade betemit or aviles first. way i look at it.

[stonedstooge]

just guessin. end of the month. mid july. gotta trade betemit or aviles first. way i look at it.

Evilas please

[syyrupp-mannn]

just guessin. end of the month. mid july. gotta trade betemit or aviles first. way i look at it.

i say Asuckiles cuz he needs to get the fuck out of here! Cant hit cant field

[syyrupp-mannn]

Dont swing at the first pitch Frenchy!

[alnorth]

Top 2nd

Young strikes out (swinging), tagged out by catcher
Revere hits an infield single to shortstop
Revere to second on a Balk
Hughes grounds out to pitcher
Butera walks
Span doubles to center, Butera and Revere scores
Casilla flies out to left

2 runs, 2 hits

Bottom 2nd

Butler singles to right
Betemit reaches on a 4-6 fielder's choice, Butler out at second
Pena flies out to center
Getz pops out to second

0 runs, 1 hit

[syyrupp-mannn]

Come on if u dont get Luke Hughes out you dont deserve to be a MLB pitcher!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Somebody has been sipping on a little too much syrup.

[BWillie]

Have we thrown out a runner stealing all year? Just one? Seems like we have been one of the worst team in baseball in throwing out stealers the last 3 years. Just terrible.

[syyrupp-mannn]

draft is monday i say take Bubba Starling or Bauer

[kcchiefsus]

Duffy fucking sucks.

[syyrupp-mannn]

Duffy's gotta have better pitch efficiency if he wants to get threw 6

[BWillie]

Wild thing tonight so far

[syyrupp-mannn]

Duffy ****ing sucks.

IT'S THE UMPS!

[BWillie]

FU Melky. DDJ woulda got that

[Al Bundy]

Well that sucked.

[cabletech94]

first lesson to win close games: don't walk the oppostion. EVER.

[stonedstooge]

first lesson to win close games: don't walk the oppostion. EVER.

I'm sure the Royals are amongst the leaders in walks issued. Wonder how they rate in number of those walks that have scored

[alnorth]

Top 3rd

Morneau fouls out to first
Cuddyer homers to center
Valencia singles to center
Young singles to right, Valencia to second
Revere reaches on a 3-6 fielder's choice, Young out at second, Valencia to third
Valencia caught stealing and thrown out at home 1-3-6-2

1 run, 3 hits

Bottom 3rd

Escobar bunt grounds out to pitcher
Gordon walks
Cabrera reaches on a 3-6 fielder's choice, Gordon out at second
Hosmer hits a ground-rule double to center (fan interference), Cabrera to third
Francoeur grounds out to second

0 runs, 1 hit

[syyrupp-mannn]

Do the umps know what a strike is?

[syyrupp-mannn]

GODDAMN CAN DUFFY THROW A STIKE!!!!!! OH WELL HES JUST A ROOKIE BUT STILL!

[petegz28]

We are gonna get our ass kicked again....fucking sad

[syyrupp-mannn]

We are gonna get our ass kicked again....****ing sad

Especially when your Facing a team thats 18 and 37

[syyrupp-mannn]

THATS A FUCKIN STRIKE!

[alnorth]

Duffy wont get 5 innings, maybe not even 4.

[petegz28]

we've been outscored by the twins 11-2 so far....that is fucking sad

[petegz28]

That's the way you tag a runner at the plate, Pena!

[milkman]

That's the way you tag a runner at the plate, Pena!

It's a good thing that he learns from mistakes.

[stonedstooge]

That's the way you tag a runner at the plate, Pena!

I imagine he caught a little hell over that tag he made 2 or 3 games ago don't you think?

[Al Bundy]

So far it looks like the Twins are the far superior team.

[stonedstooge]

And Yost runs out to apologize

[syyrupp-mannn]

is yost playin with his dick?

[alnorth]

good effort by the fan. That ball wasn't going out and he tried to catch it high.

[Al Bundy]

The crappy design of the "k" costs the Royals 2 runs.

[stonedstooge]

The crappy design of the "k" costs the Royals 2 runs.

BBBBBBUUUTTTT they have dollar hot dog night!

[Deberg_1990]

The crappy design of the "k" costs the Royals 2 runs.

The need to move the walls back in again to benefit Billy "Warning Track Power" Butler.

[GloryDayz]

Stuck behind the padding, over the top if it, isn't a HR?? I'm confused?

[alnorth]

The crappy design of the "k" costs the Royals 2 runs.

The K is designed fine. Complaining about the fences is silly, especially since we are nowhere close to the worst home run park.

[stonedstooge]

The need to move the walls back in again to benefit Billy "Warning Track Power" Butler.

And move first base closer when he bats so he doesn't have to run so far

[alnorth]

Top 4th

Hughes flies out to right
Butera flies out to right
Span triples to left, Span thrown out at home 7-6-2

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 4th

Butler singles to left, Butler to second on an Error by LF
Betemit singles to left, Butler to third
Pena hits an infield single to pitcher, Betemit to second, Butler scores
Getz sacrifices (bunt) to first unassisted, Pena to second, Betemit to third
Escobar reaches on a 6-2 fielder's choice, Betemit out at home
Gordon singles to right, Escobar to third, Pena scores
Cabrera strikes out (swinging)

2 runs, 4 hits

[stonedstooge]

Got his ass

[milkman]

The K is designed fine. Complaining about the fences is silly, especially since we are nowhere close to the worst home run park.

The design is fine.

However, why is there padding at the fence above the wall?


If that doesn't get stuck in the padding and bounces off the fence, Melky scores.

And Pena did a hell of a job on that play at the plate.

[milkman]

LeFevbre "If (Young) fields that cleanly, Butler might have been held to a single".

Might?

Buter was 10 feet from reaching first when Young mishandles that ball.

[petegz28]

God Damn it Betemit!

[alnorth]

The design is fine.

However, why is there padding at the fence above the wall?


If that doesn't get stuck in the padding and bounces off the fence, Melky scores.

And Pena did a hell of a job on that play at the plate.

The camera angle was tricky and unclear, but I dont think the padding mattered. It looked to me like the fan brought it in.

[Sure-Oz]

Betimit is so smart

[milkman]

The camera angle was tricky and unclear, but I dont think the padding mattered. It looked to me like the fan brought it in.

The fan reached into the padding and pulled the ball out.

That was as clear as it could possibly be.

There was nothing tricky or unclear about it.

[alnorth]

The fan reached into the padding and pulled the ball out.

That was as clear as it could possibly be.

There was nothing tricky or unclear about it.

I disagree, but I'm also not certain. I know he reached down, but I think he was reaching down behind the fence near his seat after he deflected it out. The radio guys also had no idea what happened after seeing replay.

[milkman]

Hell, another fan even pointed at the ball for that fan, cause that fan apparently didn't see that it got wedged.

He then reached down and grabbed it.

[milkman]

I disagree, but I'm also not certain. I know he reached down, but I think he was reaching down behind the fence near his seat after he deflected it out. The radio guys also had no idea what happened after seeing replay.

That fan never touched the ball before it got wedged.

He didn't deflect it out.

[alnorth]

That fan never touched the ball before it got wedged.

He didn't deflect it out.

never mind, you are right. I went back and watched it.

The first replay (which I wasn't paying attention to) was clear. The subsequent replays (which I saw) all sucked and didnt show what happened at all.

[milkman]

I don't know what the radio annoucers watche, but they need better eyesight if they saw the same replay(s) I did.

[milkman]

I love me some Alcidefense.

[petegz28]

that was a swing

[alnorth]

Top 5th

Casilla grounds out to shortstop
Morneau strikes out (looking)
Cuddyer walks
Valencia grounds into an unassisted fielder's choice to shortstop, Cuddyer out at second

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 5th

Hosmer singles to left
Francoeur grounds into 4-6-3 double play, Hosmer out at second
Butler strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 1 hit

[petegz28]

lucky call there

[stonedstooge]

A gift to the soft headed one

[syyrupp-mannn]

Come on royals let's put some runs on the board~!


The royals suck ass!

[alnorth]

Come on royals let's put some runs on the board~!


The royals suck ass!

You've got a designated driver, right?

[kstater]

You've got a designated driver, right?

I'm glad he found the shift key.

[Al Bundy]

These last two games are the same old Royals... errors, walking batters, running into outs and hitting into double plays.

[alnorth]

Top 6th

Tim Collins relieves Duffy

Young strikes out (looking)
Revere grounds out to shortstop
Hughes hits an infield single to shortstop
Butera doubles to left, Hughes scores
Span flies out to center

1 run, 2 hits

Bottom 6th

Betemit strikes out (swinging)
Pena flies out to center
Getz grounds out to shortstop

0 runs, 0 hits

[syyrupp-mannn]

You've got a designated driver, right?

what? I aint at the park

[alnorth]

These last two games are the same old Royals... errors, walking batters, running into outs and hitting into double plays.

well, not today...

Minnesota has the error and the Twins ran into 2 outs at the plate. As for blaming a player for hitting into a double play, thats kinda silly unless they are a weak TPJ type of player with infield dirt power.

[cabletech94]

I'm sure the Royals are amongst the leaders in walks issued. Wonder how they rate in number of those walks that have scored

i'd be willing to bet if not last, next to.:banghead:

[stonedstooge]

How the hell does Span get swings in when he swings so late at the ball. Don't know if I have ever seen a player wait so long before he pulls the trigger

[Al Bundy]

I guess the years of bad baseball have made me hate this ball park like no other. It just doesn't lend itself to winning baseball. You basically have to have 2 aces on your team to compete in this park.

[Al Bundy]

The Royals will be playing sunday to avoid the sweet.

[alnorth]

Top 7th

Casilla walks
Morneau flies out to left

Blake Wood relieves Collins

Cuddyer strikes out (looking), Casilla steals second
Valencia pops out to second

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 7th

Escobar grounds out to shortstop
Gordon grounds out to pitcher
Cabrera flies out to center

0 runs, 0 hits

[Al Bundy]

The Royals and the Twins are not that far apart.

[alnorth]

I guess the years of bad baseball have made me hate this ball park like no other. It just doesn't lend itself to winning baseball. You basically have to have 2 aces on your team to compete in this park.

We'd need more aces if the fences were in, this is a pitcher's park, and you are wanting to convert it to a hitter's park.

If the fences were in, we'd be losing games 8-5 instead of 4-1. All things being equal, I prefer games that dont last over 3.5 hours, so keep the fences back.

[Al Bundy]

So you prefer to watch our guys give up 6 runs, mostly walk induced while Belly Butler flies out to center field? I really don't know that you could ever turn the K into a hitters park. However, if we are going to keep the 1970's no homeruns style we should really just put all of the scouting, drafting, trading and free agents into pitching.

[milkman]

I guess the years of bad baseball have made me hate this ball park like no other. It just doesn't lend itself to winning baseball. You basically have to have 2 aces on your team to compete in this park.

What you need in this ballpark is speed in the outfield and speed at the top of the order.

And, if you can get it, speed at the bottom of the order.

Sprinkle in aggressive but smart base running and solid pitching, and you can get a lot of wins.

[Al Bundy]

What you need in this ballpark is speed in the outfield and speed at the top of the order.

And, if you can get it, speed at the bottom of the order.

Sprinkle in aggressive but smart base running and solid pitching, and you can get a lot of wins.

Yep, that would get you to around 80 wins.

[milkman]

I honestly believe that Willie Wilson was every bit as important to the success of the Royals in the 80s as George Brett.

[milkman]

Escobar should lay down a bunt every now and then.

[DeezNutz]

What you need in this ballpark is speed in the outfield and speed at the top of the order.

And, if you can get it, speed at the bottom of the order.

Sprinkle in aggressive but smart base running and solid pitching, and you can get a lot of wins.

I'll take high-quality pitching, high-OBP guys, and some power.

Defense is a by-product of talent (athletes).

[alnorth]

Top 8th

Young singles to left
Revere singles to left, Young to second
Revere to second, Young to third on a Wild Pitch
Hughes strikes out (swinging)
Butera sacrifices (fly) to center, Young scores, Revere thrown out at third 8-4-5

1 run, 2 hits

Bottom 8th

Hosmer lines out to first
Francoeur pops out to second
Butler singles to center
Betemit pops out to shortstop

0 runs, 1 hit

[alnorth]

So you prefer to watch our guys give up 6 runs, mostly walk induced while Belly Butler flies out to center field? I really don't know that you could ever turn the K into a hitters park. However, if we are going to keep the 1970's no homeruns style we should really just put all of the scouting, drafting, trading and free agents into pitching.

For some reason you think having the fences back hurts only us, and pulling them in would help only us. This is probably because you vividly recall every warning track out and forget those same outs we record.

There's no reason at all to believe we would be a better team with the fences in. All we'd accomplish is longer high-scoring games with about the same record, but not as many under 3 hours.

[Chris Meck]

There are lots of ways to drive in runs. You don't have to hit 50 hr's. Just ask Hal McRae.

[DeezNutz]

There are lots of ways to drive in runs. You don't have to hit 50 hr's. Just ask Hal McRae.

The best way to drive in runs is to have guys on base.

[stonedstooge]

Nice pitch Wood

[Al Bundy]

Yep.. the Royals are back!!!!!! I love the guys quoting 1980's players.

[alnorth]

calling it: Hughes belts a sharp lineout to Betemit, who somehow records another out for the double play.

[petegz28]

So glad we are letting the worst team in baseball kick our ass in our own park for a 2nd night in a row

[Al Bundy]

Well that's the game. Too bad... the Twins are actually a better team than the Royals. By the end of the season we will be 10 games below them.

[milkman]

I'll take high-quality pitching, high-OBP guys, and some power.

Defense is a by-product of talent (athletes).

Clearly you want guys that get on base.

But if I had a choice between a Willie Wilson and Alex Gordan to lead off, I'm taking Wilson.

And you can not substitute speed on defense.

Now, if that speedy outfielder is a defensive liability, then you don't wnat that.

But if I have the choice between two equal defenders, the one with speed is getting the nod.

And Kaufman has a lot of ground to cover out there.

[alnorth]

Well, game's not over yet because the Twins bullpen has been utterly horrific this season. Probably why Pavano's still out there, they'd rather go to the pen for only one inning.

[Sure-Oz]

This series shouldve been ours fuck

[Al Bundy]

Quit making a big deal about Belly's singles...

[Al Bundy]

Pavano and the Twins fans owning the worst ball park in baseball.

[Arsonist]

Nice that our good hitters could suck out again gg

[stonedstooge]

I wouldn't mind Belly's lack of speed so much if he hustled instead of jogging like it's friggin cool or something

[alnorth]

Pavano and the Twins fans owning the worst ball park in baseball.

Why do you think moving the fences in would mean anything whatsoever? This is bordering on superstition and reading chicken bones tossed on the dirt to see the future, there's just no reason to believe the fences should be in.

[Al Bundy]

Why do you think moving the fences in would mean anything whatsoever? This is bordering on superstition and reading chicken bones tossed on the dirt to see the future, there's just no reason to believe the fences should be in.

There is nothing that could be done to this ball park to make it a winning ball park. It is much like Bannister Mall was, greatly designed for the 70's and 80's but it had no chance of ever being able to be brought in to the 21st century. It really needed to be treated like Bannister Mall and bull dozed.

[Mr. Laz]

I'll take high-quality pitching, high-OBP guys, and some power.

Defense is a by-product of talent (athletes).
yep, also throw in gritty competitive players who can produce under pressure.

[alnorth]

uhhh.... are the Twins giving up on their 2nd closer of the season? They are warming up a guy who has an ERA over 10.

[alnorth]

There is nothing that could be done to this ball park to make it a winning ball park. It is much like Bannister Mall was, greatly designed for the 70's and 80's but it had no chance of ever being able to be brought in to the 21st century. It really needed to be treated like Bannister Mall and bull dozed.

heh, Bannister Mall was such a friggen disaster. Anyone who sunk money into that trying to bring it back almost deserved to lose it.

[Al Bundy]

heh, Bannister Mall was such a friggen disaster. Anyone who sunk money into that trying to bring it back almost deserved to lose it.

I had a store there from 94-2000. It had no chance of turning around after 99.

[alnorth]

Top 9th

Everett Teaford relieves Wood

Span grounds out to shortstop
Casilla walks
Casilla caught stealing 2-6, out at second
Morneau grounds out to first 3-1

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 9th

Pena flies out to center
Getz grounds out to first
Escobar pops out to second

0 runs, 0 hits

Twins win, 5-2

[milkman]

Is that the first runner attempting a steal thrown out by the Royals this year?

Pena has had a hell of a game tonight.

[stonedstooge]

Is that the first runner attempting a steal thrown out by the Royals this year?

Pena has had a hell of a game tonight.

Both catchers threw out quite a few the first month of the season, but not so many since

[Sure-Oz]

Pathetic effort

[Mr. Laz]

There is nothing that could be done to this ball park to make it a winning ball park. It is much like Bannister Mall was, greatly designed for the 70's and 80's but it had no chance of ever being able to be brought in to the 21st century. It really needed to be treated like Bannister Mall and bull dozed.
just silly

You can move the fences in or out to suit the type of team you have but it's the team that makes a ball park a 'winner'.

[Arsonist]

Officially owned 9 hits 2 runs what a joke

[stonedstooge]

Pretty feeble attempt by the Royals tonight. Losing the first two makes it so now we have to pray for the Splitt

[siberian khatru]

Punked by Carl Pavano and Drew Butera. Ugh.

[wazu]

Is that the first runner attempting a steal thrown out by the Royals this year?

Pena has had a hell of a game tonight.

I know Pena had one last weekend. It was a beauty.

[Al Bundy]

lol at Ned making excuses for his team not trying to win tonight.

[alnorth]

lol at Ned making excuses for his team not trying to win tonight.

"not trying to win"?

[Al Bundy]

"not trying to win"?

Didn't see any effort on the Royals part.

[Al Bundy]

Relying on ole Hoch to attempt to salvage a series split tomorrow? That is a loss.

[alnorth]

Didn't see any effort on the Royals part.

Ahh. Glad to see that I'm not the only one with vision problems tonight.

I still cant believe I didn't notice that the guy picked the ball up from the top of the pad.

[WilliamTheIrish]

in all my baseball fandom I never thought I'd look back and say "gee, that bruce chen month was fantastic".
I wish the pac 10 plane would land.
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[Bowser]

in all my baseball fandom I never thought I'd look back and say "gee, that bruce chen month was fantastic".
I wish the pac 10 plane would land.
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What makes this funny is that while listening to all our bumblefuck pitchers get hit around, I actually wondered to myself when Chen would be back.

[SPchief]

Ahh. Glad to see that I'm not the only one with vision problems tonight.

I still cant believe I didn't notice that the guy picked the ball up from the top of the pad.

I was at the game and still haven't seen a replay. Was the call correct? Live it looked like it went over the LF's glove and into the fence for what I thought was a homerun. But it was hard to see and I was sitting between 3rd and left field.

[alnorth]

I was at the game and still haven't seen a replay. Was the call correct? Live it looked like it went over the LF's glove and into the fence for what I thought was a homerun. But it was hard to see and I was sitting between 3rd and left field.

It was impossible to tell live. On replay, it was a very clear and obvious ground-rule double. The umpires got it right. The fan had nothing to do with it, it was stuck on top of the pad, the fan saw it sitting there, and just picked up his souvenir.

edit: oh and by the way, it has to go over that little fence to be a home run. Hitting that little fence isn't good enough.

[SPchief]

It was impossible to tell live. On replay, it was a very clear and obvious ground-rule double. The umpires got it right. The fan had nothing to do with it, it was stuck on top of the pad, the fan saw it sitting there, and just picked up his souvenir.



Cool, the fan didn't touch it from what I saw, someone to his left pointed it out and the LF'r put his hands up in the air. Kind of killed the momentum. Whole different ballgame if it actually would have went out

[SPchief]

Oh, and after starting the season going to games 4-0 I'm now 6-6 with the only wins I've seen live that we've won in the last 2 weeks being friday nights cardnals game and tuesday nights win

[BigMeatballDave]

Awesome. I suppose we are gonna get swept at home by the fucking Twins.

[cabletech94]

Awesome. I suppose we are gonna get swept at home by the ****ing Twins.

better draft pick?:banghead: