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NewChief
06-07-2011, 06:48 PM
He asked me for it in the Bachmann thread, so here we go. He asked that conservatives only reply.

Poll forthcoming.

Jenson71
06-07-2011, 06:50 PM
Honestly, I think he has a learning disability.

Simplex3
06-07-2011, 06:53 PM
Yes, he, is.

Brock
06-07-2011, 06:53 PM
A stupid individual.

RNR
06-07-2011, 07:14 PM
I consider myself conservative as far as the size of what our government should be and wanting controlled spending. I have read some threads of his that I agreed with, however he leans way too right for me to agree with him often~

WV
06-07-2011, 07:18 PM
Don't necessarily agree with his opinions all the time, but even if he is insane he's certainly no worse than some of the libs that post in here.

NewChief
06-07-2011, 07:20 PM
Don't necessarily agree with his opinions all the time, but even if he is insane he's certainly no worse than some of the libs that post in here.

I'm trying to think of a current liberal regular who is his equivalent. I think some might say Frankie, but I don't necessarily agree. Trying to think of someone else.

Brock
06-07-2011, 07:21 PM
jaz.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=98027

Thig Lyfe
06-07-2011, 07:25 PM
More likely mentally retarded.

Dave Lane
06-07-2011, 07:26 PM
jaz.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=98027

Not even close. If you want to pick Denise or bep I can agree.

PunkinDrublic
06-07-2011, 07:27 PM
I think a liberal created his account and started his posts to make conservatives seem crazy.

Brock
06-07-2011, 07:28 PM
Not even close. If you want to pick Denise or bep I can agree.

No, jaz was very similar. "Bush was AWOL", "Rove to be indicted within two weeks", over and over again. He's a freaking nutjob.

ClevelandBronco
06-07-2011, 08:37 PM
I'd follow you into hell and help you wack the devil himself, you glorious bastard.

Saul Good
06-07-2011, 08:39 PM
I consider myself conservative as far as the size of what our government should be and wanting controlled spending. I have read some threads of his that I agreed with, however he leans way too right for me to agree with him often~

I don't think it's how far to the right he leans that I have issues with. I just don't follow his thought process sometimes. He seems to have good intentions, though.

mlyonsd
06-07-2011, 08:40 PM
I think a liberal created his account and started his posts to make conservatives seem crazy.This.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-07-2011, 08:40 PM
He doesn't believe Obama has a valid birth certificate, and I don't believe he has a valid college degree.

Saul Good
06-07-2011, 08:40 PM
I'm trying to think of a current liberal regular who is his equivalent. I think some might say Frankie, but I don't necessarily agree. Trying to think of someone else.

I would say more like dirtyrute or the guy with the Jayhawks avatar with all the conspiracy theories who's name escapes me at the moment. (Teedubya?)

NewChief
06-07-2011, 08:41 PM
I'd follow you into hell and help you wack the devil himself, you glorious bastard.

You two are like Gilgamesh and Enkidu.

NewChief
06-07-2011, 08:42 PM
I would say more like dirtyrute or the guy with the Jayhawks avatar with all the conspiracy theories who's name escapes me at the moment. (Teedubya?)

Teedub is a libertarian, I'm pretty sure.

Saul Good
06-07-2011, 08:44 PM
Teedub is a libertarian, I'm pretty sure.

I actually have a theory about the political spectrum being a circular rather than linear with the fringes of both sides actually being nearly identical that I may expand upon some time...or maybe that's the whole theory.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-07-2011, 08:45 PM
Say what you want about Teedub, but he is smart enough to know that every single politician out there is a lying, cheating, piece of shit that doesnt give two shits about you, or what you want for this country.

NewChief
06-07-2011, 08:46 PM
I actually have a theory about the political spectrum being a circular rather than linear with the fringes of both sides actually being nearly identical that I may expand upon some time...or maybe that's the whole theory.

OMG. I swear you can probably find a post on here I've made saying that exact same thing. You really are my bizarro twin!

Saul Good
06-07-2011, 08:48 PM
OMG. I swear you can probably find a post on here I've made saying that exact same thing. You really are my bizarro twin!

That was a really under-appreciated thread if you ask me. It had some real potential.

NewChief
06-07-2011, 08:56 PM
That was a really under-appreciated thread if you ask me. It had some real potential.

No one around here appreciates our collective genius.



















We will make them pay.

Bowser
06-07-2011, 09:28 PM
Which one of you is Pinky, and which is the Brain?

SNR
06-07-2011, 09:41 PM
Sportsshrink tends to get a bee in his bonnet about a lot of odd stuff that most conservatives would otherwise disregard. When a liberal or libertarian makes a valid point, he rushes at them with cries of Alinskyism. It's gotten to the point that the peculiar terms he uses don't have any meaning.

Captain Obvious
06-07-2011, 10:05 PM
Sportsshrink tends to get a bee in his bonnet about a lot of odd stuff that most conservatives would otherwise disregard. When a liberal or libertarian makes a valid point, he rushes at them with cries of Alinskyism. It's gotten to the point that the peculiar terms he uses don't have any meaning.

Winner!

All political buzzwords, no substance.

FAX
06-07-2011, 10:10 PM
Mr. sportsshrink is the Honey Badger of the DC forum.

FAX

Chiefspants
06-07-2011, 10:13 PM
You should have made the poll public, otherwise, I'm guessing he'll frame this as a conspiracy as he has with Obama's birth, Osama's death, and about everything else that could possibly be a conspiracy.

RJ
06-07-2011, 10:14 PM
I'd follow you into hell and help you wack the devil himself, you glorious bastard.


This. For sure.

KILLER_CLOWN
06-07-2011, 10:45 PM
SportShrink is simply misunderstood and will be remembered long after he's gone.

WilliamTheIrish
06-07-2011, 10:47 PM
Insane. Certifiably.
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acesn8s
06-08-2011, 04:24 AM
Who?

stevieray
06-08-2011, 04:58 AM
sometimes a bit overzealous, but tame compared to those who are here for no other reason other than searching for conflict.

Dave Lane
06-08-2011, 08:03 AM
I see that Shortsshrink has voted.

patteeu
06-08-2011, 12:34 PM
Sportsshrink has his heart in the right place. His head should probably use logic more and imagination less sometimes, but I don't think all of his conspiracy theories are unfounded. In short, he's like most of the other posters on this message board: when he agrees with me, he's right and when he disagrees with me, he's wrong. :)

I voted "I agree with him pretty often, but not always".

VAChief
06-08-2011, 02:00 PM
Being wrong all the time doesn't make you insane...although I'm sure it gets frustrating which perhaps creates a perceived persona of "craziness."

Inspector
06-08-2011, 02:26 PM
I'm not allowed to discuss crazy anymore. It was a condition of my release. Sorry.

vailpass
06-08-2011, 02:27 PM
He asked me for it in the Bachmann thread, so here we go. He asked that conservatives only reply.

Poll forthcoming.

For the purposes of this excercise, how are we defining 'conservative'?

vailpass
06-08-2011, 02:29 PM
Honestly, I think he has a learning disability.

What'd he do? Post around DC calling everybody ****** or something?

RNR
06-08-2011, 02:35 PM
What'd he do? Post around DC calling everybody ****** or something?

LMAO or did someone with a valid point disagree with him causing him to go batshit crazy telling them fuck you and calling them a slimy piece of shit?

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 08:51 PM
Sportsshrink tends to get a bee in his bonnet about a lot of odd stuff that most conservatives would otherwise disregard. When a liberal or libertarian makes a valid point, he rushes at them with cries of Alinskyism. It's gotten to the point that the peculiar terms he uses don't have any meaning.

I would like to know what your definition of 'Alinskyism' is please.

Odd stuff? It's only odd if you are out of touch with this 'transformation of America'(a la losing our liberties and freedoms) then I can see how you would be out of touch and think it odd.

What the Bible is to Christians is what the "Rules for Radicals" is to the Marxist Dems and Marxist Media.

It's their playbook and any issue like (Ryan care), or person(Palin) or event(2010 elections or Tea Party-belief in God and the Bible ) that poses any threat to their 'transformation of America'(tyrannical Marxism) will always be in the 'crosshairs' of spinning deceit(lie at all cost or half truths) whether to scare, make to look loony, make to look insignificant, make to look dishonest, etc.....whatever it takes in order make irrelevant.

And all this "Alinskyism" is a helluva alot easier to do when you have 85% of the Media in your backpocket who literally wait for their orders from WH on how to report each and everyday. Because they have the same worldview as the "O" and crew.

Now with all that being said. For as stupid and loony as the MSMM make Palin out to be they sure do spend a manureload of time "STILL" Alinskyizing her. I mean hell if she is that stupid and loony as some of you say then why all the 'dissing attention' STILL????? There is a reason.

Have you read "Rules for Radicals"???

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 08:54 PM
You should have made the poll public, otherwise, I'm guessing he'll frame this as a conspiracy as he has with Obama's birth, Osama's death, and about everything else that could possibly be a conspiracy.

Well I told him to make it public so we could see who the votes really are but that would have been to sobering for him:thumb:

listopencil
06-08-2011, 08:55 PM
I would like to know what your definition of 'Alinskyism' is please.

Odd stuff? It's only odd if you are out of touch with this 'transformation of America'(a la losing our liberties and freedoms) then I can see how you would be out of touch and think it odd.

What the Bible is to Christians is what the "Rules for Radicals" is to the Marxist Dems and Marxist Media.

It's their playbook and any issue like (Ryan care), or person(Palin) or event(2010 elections or Tea Party-belief in God and the Bible ) that poses any threat to their 'transformation of America'(tyrannical Marxism) will always be in the 'crosshairs' of spinning deceit(lie at all cost or half truths) whether to scare, make to look loony, make to look insignificant, make to look dishonest, etc.....whatever it takes in order make irrelevant.

And all this "Alinskyism" is a helluva alot easier to do when you have 85% of the Media in your backpocket who literally wait for their orders from WH on how to report each and everyday. Because they have the same worldview as the "O" and crew.

Now with all that being said. For as stupid and loony as the MSMM make Palin out to be they sure do spend a manureload of time "STILL" Alinskyizing her. I mean hell if she is that stupid and loony as some of you say then why all the 'dissing attention' STILL????? There is a reason.

Have you read "Rules for Radicals"???




OK, but "they" who, exactly?

listopencil
06-08-2011, 08:56 PM
Well I told him to make it public so we could see who the votes really are but that would have been to sobering for him:thumb:


A mult parade is always fun though.

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 08:56 PM
SportShrink is simply misunderstood and will be remembered long after he's gone.

What did Jesus say about the "spiritually blind"?

KILLER gets it though:thumb:

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 09:00 PM
OK, but "they" who, exactly?

Who do you think when I say "they"? Let's see your political acumen here:thumb:

listopencil
06-08-2011, 09:01 PM
Who do you think when I say "they"? Let's see your political acumen here:thumb:

I want to understand your statement. You are obviously referring to someone, or a group of people. Who?

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 09:06 PM
I want to understand your statement. You are obviously referring to someone, or a group of people. Who?

C'mon List don't play games here, who do you think I am referring to as "they"? Surely you have a sharp pencil, uh?

I have stated many times before but I don't know how much time you spend here in DC?

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 09:09 PM
I'd follow you into hell and help you wack the devil himself, you glorious bastard.

:thumb:

listopencil
06-08-2011, 09:10 PM
C'mon List don't play games here, who do you think I am referring to as "they"? Surely you have a sharp pencil, uh?

I have stated many times before but I don't know how much time you spend here in DC?

I don't spend much time in DC at all actually. I try now and again to get involved in these discussions but they seem to inevitably break down. Once in a great while I'll read a comment that I need clarification on, because I don't think I completely understand what the poster is trying to say, and this is one of those times.

SNR
06-08-2011, 09:22 PM
I would like to know what your definition of 'Alinskyism' is please.

Odd stuff? It's only odd if you are out of touch with this 'transformation of America'(a la losing our liberties and freedoms) then I can see how you would be out of touch and think it odd.

What the Bible is to Christians is what the "Rules for Radicals" is to the Marxist Dems and Marxist Media.

It's their playbook and any issue like (Ryan care), or person(Palin) or event(2010 elections or Tea Party-belief in God and the Bible ) that poses any threat to their 'transformation of America'(tyrannical Marxism) will always be in the 'crosshairs' of spinning deceit(lie at all cost or half truths) whether to scare, make to look loony, make to look insignificant, make to look dishonest, etc.....whatever it takes in order make irrelevant.

And all this "Alinskyism" is a helluva alot easier to do when you have 85% of the Media in your backpocket who literally wait for their orders from WH on how to report each and everyday. Because they have the same worldview as the "O" and crew.

Now with all that being said. For as stupid and loony as the MSMM make Palin out to be they sure do spend a manureload of time "STILL" Alinskyizing her. I mean hell if she is that stupid and loony as some of you say then why all the 'dissing attention' STILL????? There is a reason.

Have you read "Rules for Radicals"???I care far more about liberties and freedoms than most conservatives on this forum. I did the political involvement game during the Ron Paul campaign of 2007. Since then, I've decided to retire from yelling and screaming and protesting for changes that will never come. Now that he's running again, I'm choosing to watch on the sidelines. I'll vote for him in the primaries and general election if he gets that far, though.

And no, I've never read Rules For Radicals

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 09:38 PM
I don't spend much time in DC at all actually. I try now and again to get involved in these discussions but they seem to inevitably break down. Once in a great while I'll read a comment that I need clarification on, because I don't think I completely understand what the poster is trying to say, and this is one of those times.

Since the turn of the century the Democratic party has been becoming more and more "socialistic" and especially since the 60's it has been in high gear to the point where the extreme left of the Dems(admitted socialists,communists etc... a minority early on have now finally taken over and made it the norm within the Dem party under term "Progressive". Many in the Dem party can't come out and say they are socialists,Marxists or Communists but it's 'very PC to use the term Progressive so as not to 'scare the average uneducated Joe Blow American.

Our educational systems have been "littered heavily" with this Progressive Ideology(Socialist thought) for decades upon decades and especially in the higher educational institutions to the point now where kids come out "lawyering and journaling" to only a specific ideology and not defending or reporting the truth. Eventually this ideology works itself into the court systems and the media where the courts were supposed to enforce true justice to protect the people and the media is supposed to report the truth regardless so as to hold the Govt accountable to the people.

Now unfortunately our courts,our media, majority of our educational institutions are dominated by these Progressive Dems thus "critical thinking skills" go by the wayside by the masses and the majority of Americans are just "Sheeple being led to the Socialistic Slaughter" of our country" and literally have no clue. Just as Karl Marx wanted.

The Dem party is ruled by Progressives, The Media are dominated by Progressives, The Courts are more and more Liberal over time, our educational system are run by Progressives.

Now do you know who "they" are? Yes, Progressive Dems and I will say also Progressive Republicans as well but the majority in all the institutions I have mentioned are primarily Progessive Democrats.

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 09:42 PM
I care far more about liberties and freedoms than most conservatives on this forum. I did the political involvement game during the Ron Paul campaign of 2007. Since then, I've decided to retire from yelling and screaming and protesting for changes that will never come. Now that he's running again, I'm choosing to watch on the sidelines. I'll vote for him in the primaries and general election if he gets that far, though.

And no, I've never read Rules For Radicals

I assure you if you read the book you literally will be able to read accurately ahead of time what the Dem party will do on any issue,person or event that is considered conservative. I encourage you to do so:thumb:

Jenson71
06-08-2011, 09:44 PM
I don't just read Rules for Radicals. I worship it.

listopencil
06-08-2011, 09:44 PM
Now do you know who "they" are?


OK, that makes sense to me, and I have seen first hand this exact thing in learning institutions. In Boulder, Colorado and now in Chico, California. My oldest frustrates me when he comes home practically brain washed from the classroom spoon feedings, and we have had some truly epic arguments over the political future of this country. Luckily my 2nd oldest is more pragmatic and she sees through the bullshit.

listopencil
06-08-2011, 09:47 PM
I don't just read Rules for Radicals. I worship it.


I looked up some info on Alinsky. I was impressed with him. I'll probably grab that book.

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 09:48 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again that the term "Progressive" is nothing more than a "candied" up term for Marxism. If you think that is extreme then study Marxism and look at all the actions supported,taken and instituted especially in the last 50yrs by the Dem party.

Bottom line: Actions speak louder than words!!

Bill Parcells said it best. "You are what your record say's you are"!!!:shrug:

Jenson71
06-08-2011, 09:48 PM
Our educational systems have been "littered heavily" with this Progressive Ideology(Socialist thought) for decades upon decades and especially in the higher educational institutions to the point now where kids come out "lawyering and journaling" to only a specific ideology and not defending or reporting the truth.

Do you consider yourself to be a poster that only posts against a specific ideology?

Jenson71
06-08-2011, 09:50 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again that the term "Progressive" is nothing more than a "candied" up term for Marxism. If you think that is extreme then study Marxism and look at all the actions supported,taken and instituted especially in the last 50yrs by the Dem party.

Bottom line: Actions speak louder than words!!

Bill Parcells said it best. "You are what your record say's you are"!!!:shrug:

If I understand you correctly, you are saying there is no difference between American Progressivism and Marxism. Correct?

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 09:51 PM
I looked up some info on Alinsky. I was impressed with him. I'll probably grab that book.

Impressed, uh? Hillary was impressed with him. It's just too bad he used his thought and tactics against Liberty and Freedom:shake:

listopencil
06-08-2011, 09:53 PM
Impressed, uh? Hillary was impressed with him. It's just too bad he used his thought and tactics against Liberty and Freedom:shake:

Well, that's why I tend to abhor collectivism in place of personal empowerment.

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 09:54 PM
Do you consider yourself to be a poster that only posts against a specific ideology?

I post against any ideology that is against Liberty and Freedom of the Individual:thumb:

Jenson71
06-08-2011, 09:56 PM
I post against any ideology that is against Liberty and Freedom of the Individual:thumb:

Would you agree that you post almost entirely about what you perceive to be the evils of American Progressivism, which you view as a form (if not carbon copy) of Marxism?

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 09:58 PM
If I understand you correctly, you are saying there is no difference between American Progressivism and Marxism. Correct?

List the differences Jenson and it will be just in semantics. There you go again trying to split hairs like a good ACLU lawyer:thumb:

As the old saying goes, "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it is raining":thumb:

Jenson71
06-08-2011, 10:00 PM
Now unfortunately our courts,our media, majority of our educational institutions are dominated by these Progressive Dems thus "critical thinking skills" go by the wayside by the masses and the majority of Americans are just "Sheeple being led to the Socialistic Slaughter" of our country" and literally have no clue. Just as Karl Marx wanted.

Would you agree that this is just your opinion?

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 10:00 PM
Would you agree that you post almost entirely about what you perceive to be the evils of American Progressivism, which you view as a form (if not carbon copy) of Marxism?

Go practice your Progressive Lawyering with someone else:rolleyes:

Jenson71
06-08-2011, 10:06 PM
List the differences Jenson and it will be just in semantics. There you go again trying to split hairs like a good ACLU lawyer:thumb:

As the old saying goes, "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it is raining":thumb:

To me, they are huge concepts that do not fit neatly together as somethings that are neither directly contradictory or parallel.

Picture this: when you say Progressivism and Marxism, I see huge circles, that have only a little overlap. I think you picture one circle encompassing both concepts. Why do you have that picture? I think it's largely because you don't know what Marxism and Progressivism are, other than somethings that you feel are bad.

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 10:12 PM
Picture this: when you say Progressivism and Marxism, I see huge circles, that have only a little overlap. I think you picture one circle encompassing both concepts. Why do you have that picture? I think it's largely because you don't know what Marxism and Progressivism are, other than somethings that you feel are bad.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that. These 2 circles damn near lay on top of each other.

Dave Lane
06-08-2011, 10:14 PM
Ok I normally don't read the ravings of dickshrink but I've been reading some in this thread and I have to say there isn't a bug ****ing nuts option so I'll have to skip voting. That such people share the surface of the earth with us is a sad statement.

Looks like you win this poll in a landslide. Congrats on that.

Jenson71
06-08-2011, 10:16 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree on that. These 2 circles damn near lay on top of each other.

Okay, we can agree to disagree, that's fine. And I will acknowledge the possibility that I don't completely understand the concepts of Marxism and Progressivism. After all, I'm more of a historian than a philosopher. Do you acknowledge that you might not understand the concepts as well as you think you do?

Chiefshrink
06-08-2011, 10:16 PM
Ok I normally don't read the ravings of dickshrink but I've been reading some in this thread and I have to say there isn't a bug ****ing nuts option so I'll have to skip voting. That such people share the surface of the earth with us is a sad statement.

Looks like you win this poll in a landslide. Congrats on that.

You truly are a "Space Cadet":thumb:

Jenson71
06-08-2011, 10:18 PM
Go practice your Progressive Lawyering with someone else:rolleyes:

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that we could discuss these things. After all, discussion is extremely important in helping raise our understanding of different or new ideas.

Dave Lane
06-08-2011, 10:32 PM
I'm sorry, I was under the impression that we could discuss these things. After all, discussion is extremely important in helping raise our understanding of different or new ideas.

Looting around in a dustbin looking for diamonds isn't the best use of your time. I will however give you credit for making the attempt.

Dante84
06-08-2011, 10:48 PM
I think he's autistic. And not the intelligent, Rain-Man* kind.





*Dustin Hoffman, not the CP Poster

Captain Obvious
06-08-2011, 10:50 PM
I think he's autistic. And not the intelligent, Rain-Man* kind.





*Dustin Hoffman, not the CP Poster

Tomato, Tomahto

patteeu
06-08-2011, 11:13 PM
I would like to know what your definition of 'Alinskyism' is please.

Odd stuff? It's only odd if you are out of touch with this 'transformation of America'(a la losing our liberties and freedoms) then I can see how you would be out of touch and think it odd.

What the Bible is to Christians is what the "Rules for Radicals" is to the Marxist Dems and Marxist Media.

It's their playbook and any issue like (Ryan care), or person(Palin) or event(2010 elections or Tea Party-belief in God and the Bible ) that poses any threat to their 'transformation of America'(tyrannical Marxism) will always be in the 'crosshairs' of spinning deceit(lie at all cost or half truths) whether to scare, make to look loony, make to look insignificant, make to look dishonest, etc.....whatever it takes in order make irrelevant.

And all this "Alinskyism" is a helluva alot easier to do when you have 85% of the Media in your backpocket who literally wait for their orders from WH on how to report each and everyday. Because they have the same worldview as the "O" and crew.

Now with all that being said. For as stupid and loony as the MSMM make Palin out to be they sure do spend a manureload of time "STILL" Alinskyizing her. I mean hell if she is that stupid and loony as some of you say then why all the 'dissing attention' STILL????? There is a reason.

Have you read "Rules for Radicals"???

I agree. :thumb:

patteeu
06-08-2011, 11:15 PM
Since the turn of the century the Democratic party has been becoming more and more "socialistic" and especially since the 60's it has been in high gear to the point where the extreme left of the Dems(admitted socialists,communists etc... a minority early on have now finally taken over and made it the norm within the Dem party under term "Progressive". Many in the Dem party can't come out and say they are socialists,Marxists or Communists but it's 'very PC to use the term Progressive so as not to 'scare the average uneducated Joe Blow American.

Our educational systems have been "littered heavily" with this Progressive Ideology(Socialist thought) for decades upon decades and especially in the higher educational institutions to the point now where kids come out "lawyering and journaling" to only a specific ideology and not defending or reporting the truth. Eventually this ideology works itself into the court systems and the media where the courts were supposed to enforce true justice to protect the people and the media is supposed to report the truth regardless so as to hold the Govt accountable to the people.

Now unfortunately our courts,our media, majority of our educational institutions are dominated by these Progressive Dems thus "critical thinking skills" go by the wayside by the masses and the majority of Americans are just "Sheeple being led to the Socialistic Slaughter" of our country" and literally have no clue. Just as Karl Marx wanted.

The Dem party is ruled by Progressives, The Media are dominated by Progressives, The Courts are more and more Liberal over time, our educational system are run by Progressives.

Now do you know who "they" are? Yes, Progressive Dems and I will say also Progressive Republicans as well but the majority in all the institutions I have mentioned are primarily Progessive Democrats.

I agree with this too. :thumb:

NewChief
06-09-2011, 04:52 AM
I agree. :thumb:

You actually believe that Rules for Radicals is to the Democrats what the Bible is to Christians? Really? Really?

You actually believe that the media is a Marxist media?

Wow, I'm about to start a poll questioning your sanity next. :p

NewChief
06-09-2011, 05:32 AM
I don't just read Rules for Radicals. I worship it.

I always thought the Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital would be our bible. I've been worshiping the wrong book this whole time. No wonder I'm confused!

patteeu
06-09-2011, 05:50 AM
You actually believe that Rules for Radicals is to the Democrats what the Bible is to Christians? Really? Really?

You actually believe that the media is a Marxist media?

Wow, I'm about to start a poll questioning your sanity next. :p

I'm allowing for a little hyperbole. I do believe that our government, our media, and our courts have marched steadily leftward for a long time and that today's mainstream liberalism would have been considered radical 50 years ago. And while I don't believe that most of today's liberals have read Rules for Radicals, I believe the ideas have been adopted by liberal ringleaders and have become some kind of leftwing common sense. :)

Chiefshrink
06-09-2011, 08:17 AM
I'm allowing for a little hyperbole. I do believe that our government, our media, and our courts have marched steadily leftward for a long time and that today's mainstream liberalism would have been considered radical 50 years ago. And while I don't believe that most of today's liberals have read Rules for Radicals, I believe the ideas have been adopted by liberal ringleaders and have become some kind of leftwing common sense. :)

:thumb:

What you have described in this statement of yours is what Lenin called "Useful Idiots" and what the disciple "Saul Alinsky" say's is all out necessary for a successful revolution or in Progressive PC terms today substituting the word 'revolution' for 'transformation'.

Useful Idiots in our courts,educational system,our media, our political system and especially "infecting" our Judeo-Christian Americana Culture are essential for so-called 'transformation'.

And yet these 'useful idiots' are the most arrogant and blind people who wield the most power in the wrong direction because "THEY KNOW BEST":rolleyes::shake:

There are many "useful idiots" in this forum and they don't even know it, yet try to Alinskyize me as a loon:LOL:

Chiefshrink
06-09-2011, 08:26 AM
And I will acknowledge the possibility that I don't completely understand the concepts of Marxism and Progressivism. After all, I'm more of a historian than a philosopher.

You have not researched both schools of thought and if you are more of a historian then you 'should know' these already which is precisely my point that your education is already "infected" and you really don't know that there is truly another side to the coin.

Chiefshrink
06-09-2011, 08:32 AM
I'm sorry, I was under the impression that we could discuss these things. After all, discussion is extremely important in helping raise our understanding of different or new ideas.

I have done my research unlike you admittedly on these topics of Marxism and American Progressivism. The differences are semanitcally "candied up" so as to not scare the uneducated mass of 'useful idiots'. I read the actions of the Dems especially in the last 50yrs and I will say this again.

"Don't piss on my leg and then tell me it's raining":thumb:

Honestly do the research and you will see they are damn near alike.:thumb:

BucEyedPea
06-09-2011, 08:56 AM
Historians, unfortunately, don't really cover economics much or well. There's few economic historians who write it from the viewpoint of economic systems and their effects. Not like DiLorenzo or Tom Woods have done.

Of course, an old reliable tactic of the Marxist-camps is to allege insanity when dealing with dissent; marching off those who disagree into psychiatric hospitals or to Siberia.

go bowe
06-09-2011, 09:19 AM
siberia?

we could take up a collection for a one-way ticket for you...

Frankie
06-09-2011, 09:42 AM
I'm trying to think of a current liberal regular who is his equivalent. I think some might say Frankie, but I don't necessarily agree. Trying to think of someone else.

I post some of the most informed political points here, based on evidence and/or personal experience. When I'm mistaken I admit to it.

I never initiate personal attacks and stand up to idiots who do when I am attacked first and mostly against mass attacks when this becomes the Planet of The Apes.

For the most part I successfully differentiate between friendly needling and hateful bigotry, and on rare occasions that I missed the mark I have manned up to it.

I'm balanced enough to share at least some beliefs and points of view with conservatives.

.... Yep, I'm the most insane lib around here. Thanks for the vote of confidence, NewChief. :rolleyes:

patteeu
06-09-2011, 10:00 AM
I post some of the most informed political points here, ...

We're all a little crazy here, but most of us aren't Frankie-crazy.

NewChief
06-09-2011, 10:00 AM
I post some of the most informed political points here, based on evidence and/or personal experience. When I'm mistaken I admit to it.

I never initiate personal attacks and stand up to idiots who do when I am attacked first and mostly against mass attacks when this becomes the Planet of The Apes.

For the most part I successfully differentiate between friendly needling and hateful bigotry, and on rare occasions that I missed the mark I have manned up to it.

I'm balanced enough to share at least some beliefs and points of view with conservatives.

.... Yep, I'm the most insane lib around here. Thanks for the vote of confidence, NewChief. :rolleyes:

Sorry, sorry. Shouldn't have put in the necessarily. I don't agree. I just like to qualify things.

go bowe
06-09-2011, 10:11 AM
I post some of the most informed political points here, based on evidence and/or personal experience. When I'm mistaken I admit to it.

I never initiate personal attacks and stand up to idiots who do when I am attacked first and mostly against mass attacks when this becomes the Planet of The Apes.

For the most part I successfully differentiate between friendly needling and hateful bigotry, and on rare occasions that I missed the mark I have manned up to it.

I'm balanced enough to share at least some beliefs and points of view with conservatives.

.... Yep, I'm the most insane lib around here. Thanks for the vote of confidence, NewChief. :rolleyes:
yeah yeah yeah...

everybody knows you're a terrorist who has been sent by ahmanutjob to disrupt and destroy chiefs planet...

you can't fool us...

RNR
06-09-2011, 10:14 AM
I post some of the most informed political points here, based on evidence and/or personal experience. When I'm mistaken I admit to it.

I never initiate personal attacks and stand up to idiots who do when I am attacked first and mostly against mass attacks when this becomes the Planet of The Apes.

For the most part I successfully differentiate between friendly needling and hateful bigotry, and on rare occasions that I missed the mark I have manned up to it.

I'm balanced enough to share at least some beliefs and points of view with conservatives.

.... Yep, I'm the most insane lib around here. Thanks for the vote of confidence, NewChief. :rolleyes:
There is your problem~

ClevelandBronco
06-09-2011, 10:24 AM
There is your problem~

There is his fucking delusion.

RNR
06-09-2011, 10:26 AM
There is his ****ing delusion.

LMAO play nice damn it~

vailpass
06-09-2011, 10:27 AM
Would you agree that this is just your opinion?

:LOL: Look at the L1 trying to walk people out on the Socratic branch. Cute.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-09-2011, 10:37 AM
LMAO This thread is a mixed bag.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 10:39 AM
For some reason I'd like to see a free-for-all between the conservatives and liberals in DC. Just a knock down, drag out jack stomping affair.

Frankie
06-09-2011, 10:51 AM
yeah yeah yeah...

everybody knows you're a terrorist who has been sent by ahmanutjob to disrupt and destroy chiefs planet...

you can't fool us...

Dammit, go bowe. Now you gave away my mission objective. Everybody knows Chiefs Planet is an important target to destroy.

As of now my mission has switched to Plan B. I'm coming to visit you and you'll never guess the fashion I'm wearing.

SNR
06-09-2011, 10:58 AM
I post some of the most informed political points here, based on evidence and/or personal experience. When I'm mistaken I admit to it.

I never initiate personal attacks and stand up to idiots who do when I am attacked first and mostly against mass attacks when this becomes the Planet of The Apes.

For the most part I successfully differentiate between friendly needling and hateful bigotry, and on rare occasions that I missed the mark I have manned up to it.

I'm balanced enough to share at least some beliefs and points of view with conservatives.

.... Yep, I'm the most insane lib around here. Thanks for the vote of confidence, NewChief. :rolleyes:Maybe.

But your inability to spot REAL musical talent in children is alarming.

MOhillbilly
06-09-2011, 11:01 AM
For some reason I'd like to see a free-for-all between the conservatives and liberals in DC. Just a knock down, drag out jack stomping affair.


deep pit and a bag of blades.

Frankie
06-09-2011, 11:06 AM
Maybe.

But your inability to spot REAL musical talent in children is alarming.

"Why do you do this to me?!"

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2011/06/thelatelateshowwithcraigferguson110606.jpg

Jenson71
06-09-2011, 12:19 PM
You have not researched both schools of thought and if you are more of a historian then you 'should know' these already which is precisely my point that your education is already "infected" and you really don't know that there is truly another side to the coin.

Well, take it from my historical perspective. I'm familiar with the Progressive Era, and I'm familiar with Marxist ideology and revolutions. The Progressive Era started with upper-class women trying to better society through programs, charities, government policies and laws. Progressives sought for a better society under the framework already established (capitalism and democracy and nations). Income tax, women's suffrage, prohibition, were all elements of the Progressive Era.

Marxists, on the other hand, sought for a complete destruction of contemporary society. The ultimate goal or destination was one universal classless society in which the workers of the world owned the means of production, not the capitalist bourgeoisie.

See how these are different? It makes sense then, that there were Progressive Republicans, Progressive Democrats. And it makes sense that a separate third party, the Socialist Party, started and ran their own platforms and they ran against Republicans and Democrats, Now sure, I'm not saying that there was no shaping the culture or overlap; I'm just saying there are differences.

I'm not really convinced that my education has wrongly inculcated in my mind that these are essentially separate historical movements/ideologies. And I'm not convinced that you have a near complete idea about what Progressivism or Marxism is.

Most of your posts are vague in historical detail, are riddled with conspiracy-laden language. Your arguments are unsophisticated and completely unconvincing. It's just not clear to me that you know exactly what the terms are that you're using.

Jenson71
06-09-2011, 12:22 PM
:LOL: Look at the L1 trying to walk people out on the Socratic branch. Cute.

What makes you so insecure? Did you drop out of law school? Couldn't pass the bar? It's plainly obvious you have something eating at you.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 02:08 PM
What makes you so insecure? Did you drop out of law school? Couldn't pass the bar? It's plainly obvious you have something eating at you.

Do you agree that it is in fact acceptable to yell ****** in a crowded movie house?

Jenson71
06-09-2011, 03:49 PM
Do you agree that it is in fact acceptable to yell ****** in a crowded movie house?

Okay, it seems you either dropped out or couldn't pass the bar. What do you do now?

vailpass
06-09-2011, 03:55 PM
Okay, it seems you either dropped out or couldn't pass the bar. What do you do now?

I heard of an old man back home that recently passed away in Iowa. I think I'll go buy his farm and turn it into an oil refinery.

Jenson71
06-09-2011, 04:02 PM
I heard of an old man back home that recently passed away in Iowa. I think I'll go buy his farm and turn it into an oil refinery.

Is this supposed to be funny? I'm not trying to say that you did drop out or couldn't pass the bar or couldn't get in. You are just very defensive and offensive about what I consider to be one of my finest achievements in my young life: getting into my top law school. If it makes you feel any better, I haven't done that well in my classes.

You come across as terribly bitter, which probably accounts for why you're such a jackass to people on this site.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 04:10 PM
Is this supposed to be funny? I'm not trying to say that you did drop out or couldn't pass the bar or couldn't get in. You are just very defensive and offensive about what I consider to be one of my finest achievements in my young life: getting into my top law school. If it makes you feel any better, I haven't done that well in my classes.

You come across as terribly bitter, which probably accounts for why you're such a jackass to people on this site.

Heat, Kitchen

LMAO

Jenson71
06-09-2011, 04:12 PM
Heat, Kitchen

LMAO

Trust me, you're not someone who makes me feel bad. I think you're a jackass when I'm in the same thread as you, but you're pretty insignificant to me.

vailpass
06-09-2011, 04:14 PM
Is this supposed to be funny? I'm not trying to say that you did drop out or couldn't pass the bar or couldn't get in. You are just very defensive and offensive about what I consider to be one of my finest achievements in my young life: getting into my top law school. If it makes you feel any better, I haven't done that well in my classes.

You come across as terribly bitter, which probably accounts for why you're such a jackass to people on this site.

Easy kid. You come on here and deal shit, you have to expect the same in return. I'm not knocking you being a 1L, I'm just calling you out when you exhibit the very typical behaviors of a 1L.
no, I'm not happy to hear your grades aren't where you want them. Are you putting in the time? Do you have any study groups?

RNR
06-09-2011, 04:55 PM
You come across as terribly bitter, which probably accounts for why you're such a jackass to people on this site.

:hmmm: or...nevermind I am not up for the rant LMAO