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Chiefshrink
06-10-2011, 12:21 AM
our economic mess. Most of us somewhat know this story already but I heard an excerpt on Limbaugh today talking about the author Gretchen Morgansen and her new book. Will be interesting to see if the Repubs will use this for ammo in the upcoming election.

Pay very close attention to how the MSMM treat this book and especially the author in the upcoming days and you will see how they will attempt to "Alinskyize" her and the book. Will totally dismiss her as a 'partisan hack' :thumb: Here is the excerpt from Limbaugh's show.

RUSH: Folks, there's a new book out, been brought to my attention. I just downloaded it, my iPad on I books. I'm gonna start reading it this afternoon. The book is entitled "Reckless Endangerment: How Outsized Ambition, Greed, and Corruption Led to Economic Armageddon," and it's by Gretchen Morgenson (who is an economics writer/business writer to the New York Times) and noted financial analyst Joshua Rosner. And this book apparently is a cover-to-cover indictment of Wall Street and the Democrat Party, Fannie Mae and subprime mortgages. This book answers the question that the American people have: Who is responsible for this debacle?

The American people know somebody really screwed up, but they don't know who. This book provides the answer and in names. One of the big names mentioned is a guy named James Johnson, a huge Democrat Party power broker, facilitator, fundraiser. Barney Frank's name is mentioned. ACORN. La Raza. The Democrat establishment with unbreakable ties to Wall Street. Angelo Mozilo. This book apparently makes it plain that this economic disaster is a pure creation of the Democrat Party and crony capitalist associates on Wall Street. Not the Republican Party. Pure and simple, the Democrat Party. Despite the fact that the lead author is one of the business writers for the New York Times, Gretchen Morgenson.

[Walter Russell Mead] well-known Democrat has reviewed the book. He says that the Republican Party and the Tea Party have just acquired a new weapon of mass destruction (it has nothing to do with Weiner), and that if the deploy the weapon effectively in the next election cycle -- and Mead says it's a big if -- then they've got the biggest opportunity to move the country rightward since Ronald Reagan took the oath of office in 1981. And it is this book, that this book answers the question average Americans have: "Why is what's happening to me happening? Why is my home worthless? Why don't I have a job? Why can't I get a loan? Why is this economy such a mess?"

This book answers it, and answers it with the names of Democrats on Wall Street in the Obama administration: Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, Henry Cisneros, Nancy Pelosi, ACORN, La Raza -- and the big villain: A guy by the name of James Johnson, long one of the most important members of the Democrat establishment. He ran Mondull's campaign with Beckel. He chaired the search of John Kerry (who, by the way, served in Vietnam) for a vice president. He's the guy that settled on the noted anti-poverty warrior, John Edwards. Obama was so impressed with this James Johnson fellow that he reportedly asked him to lead Obama's search in 2008 for a VP, though he withdrew.

Johnson withdrew when word got out that he benefited from the disgraced and disgusting Angelo Mozilo's corrupt program of special mortgages for political people. [Mead] says this story as a killer app for the Republicans. It demonizes Democrats, it lends itself to attack ads, it divides Democrats between their Wall Street and union bases, combines Republican hate figures in ways calculated to unify the Republicans and heighten the intensity of the faithful. "The story illustrates everything the Tea Party thinks about the corrupt Washington establishment and the evils of big government. It demonstrates the limits on the ability of government programs to help the poor. It converts a complicated economic story into a simple morality play -- with Dems as the villain. It allows Republicans to capitalize on public fury at the country’s economic problems. It links the Democrats to Wall Street -- the one part of the private sector that the Republican base loathes. It exposes that mix of incompetence and arrogance that is the hallmark of the modern American liberal establishment and links this condescending cluelessness to the real problems of real American families. It links President Obama (through appointments, associations and friendships) with the worst elements of the Clinton legacy and it blunts some key Democratic talking points."

The title of the book is "Reckless Endangerment: How Outsized Ambition, Greed, and Corruption Led to Economic Armageddon," and it's still happening. This little exercise here with Obama and coal is one little microcosm, one small little example. James Johnson, as I say, was an official of Fannie Mae -- and for compensation decisions made while he was a board member of United Health Care, one of the nation's biggest medical insurers. So I don't know if you ever heard the name James Johnson but he's one of these apparently huge, behind the scenes (not even so much behind the scenes), big-time Democrat Party power broker. But imagine a book that has the answers is that every American is asking: "Why in the world is this happening to our country?" The book has it in lay terms. You don't need a financial background to understand it, to decipher it -- and then the answers point straight to the Democrat Party and their liberal, crony capitalist buddies on Wall Street.

Time-out, another one. Fastest three hours in media. Speaking of books, Ann Coulter will be here in 45 minutes to discuss her new book, and it's a page-turner, too. It's about the "mob-ocracy" that is the left, the Democrat Party, and how mobs generally define Democrats today and serve as their prime mover.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: By the way, folks, the review of that book, Reckless Endangerment, was actually Walter Russell Mead. Mead reviewed the book and that's from which I was quoting, and it was Pat Caddell who sent Walter Russell Mead's review around. Just to be clear.

Amnorix
06-10-2011, 06:37 AM
:rolleyes:

Dave Lane
06-10-2011, 06:54 AM
How did you only get 75% of the dc deigns to vote you as insane?

Chief Henry
06-10-2011, 04:00 PM
Pulitzer Prize winning Business writer Gretchen Morgansen is now poo poo'd by the left wing nuts...figures. I thought Pulitzer Prize winners were something liberals loved and adored, even worshipped.

I just tried to order it and its already on back order at Amazon.

This book will be make an upcomming cruise even more interesting .

Have a nice weekend everyone.

Bewbies
06-10-2011, 04:28 PM
I can't wait for this one to gain steam. It will be fun to talk about this book, and the current admin, and the continuous decline of our economy going into the next election.

Jenson71
06-10-2011, 04:39 PM
Pay very close attention to how the MSMM treat this book and especially the author in the upcoming days and you will see how they will attempt to "Alinskyize" her and the book. Will totally dismiss her as a 'partisan hack' :thumb: Here is the excerpt from Limbaugh's show.

Do you find it ironic that she is a writer for the most prominently liberal newspaper in the country?

petegz28
06-10-2011, 05:08 PM
Do you find it ironic that she is a writer for the most prominently liberal newspaper in the country?

That will be downplayed. She will be hacked to death over this. If this gains steam she will have taken away huge amounts of ammo from Obama and laid a ton of landmines for him and his party in the process.

ChiefsCountry
06-10-2011, 05:23 PM
Isn't this is a no fucking brainer?

HonestChieffan
06-10-2011, 05:32 PM
Do you find it ironic that she is a writer for the most prominently liberal newspaper in the country?

And this is important?

Chief Henry
06-11-2011, 07:27 AM
bump

BucEyedPea
06-11-2011, 08:06 AM
Anyone who thinks it's Democrats vs Republicans needs to wake up. It's central planning via the Federal Reserve Banking system that enables the socialists (Ds) and mercantilists (Rs) who are ruining the country by placing too much power in the central govt for their own agendas.

Sure, it's true, that the Democrats have had 6 years to fix the situation and they've worsened what the Bush Republicans gave us, but if your a Misean and want to get to the roots of the matter it's in our system what is ailing it and has been there for quite awhile with the last 16 years under the stewardship of Greenspan.

Chiefshrink
06-11-2011, 11:45 AM
Anyone who thinks it's Democrats vs Republicans needs to wake up. It's central planning via the Federal Reserve Banking system that enables the socialists (Ds) and mercantilists (Rs) who are ruining the country by placing too much power in the central govt for their own agendas.

Sure, it's true, that the Democrats have had 6 years to fix the situation and they've worsened what the Bush Republicans gave us, but if your a Misean and want to get to the roots of the matter it's in our system what is ailing it and has been there for quite awhile with the last 16 years under the stewardship of Greenspan.

Your statement here is accurate and one of the words she used in her title was "GREED" and that is what you are describing in reference to socialists and mercantilists.:thumb:

What did Jesus say about the "love of $$" ? You can't serve 2 masters:thumb:

Chiefshrink
06-11-2011, 12:25 PM
Do you find it ironic that she is a writer for the most prominently liberal newspaper in the country?

I pursposely did not point this out to avoid stating the "obvious". And I'm sure the NYT knew she was writing this book. Now what remains to be seen will be interesting.

1. If the Repubs use her book for ammo.

2. IMO, the Marxist Media will just ignore the book in the beginning here(soft Alinskyizing) but if the Repubs use it for ammo and it gains steam favoring the Repub candidates in the polls as the political season heats up for 2012, then Marxist Media will have to come out and call this book a political hatchet job and demonize the author at every turn.

3. If this author keeps her "gig" at the NYT if there is heavy political fallout from the book.

But the "Alinskyization" of "Conservatism" at every facet of our culture and politics as a nation(you are a moron if you believe in conservative values) has been so successful that even the majority of the Repubs in the Republican party have been held hostage for decades by the Marxist Media not to appear "too conservative". Thus you expose those who have no spine of moral conviction to conservative values(a la McCain,Romney, Graham and the likes) thus the term "RINO" is created for those who "pretend" but are actual "cowards".

RINOs have no real conviction other than what will further their political career because they see the power of the Marxist Media and could or would not dare try to endure the heat of the political kitchen being "Alinskyized" day in day out and must liked by the opposition at all times to avoid their biggest fear which is being "Alinskyized and hated" by the opposition. And this is why the term bi-partisan is the sacred cow of RINOs. I say screw "bi-partisanship" IF it hurts "We The People" and most times it does.

You see my friends, true conservatives whether Repub,Libertarian, or Dems have the same convicting will for God,family and country that their ancestors had and would endure with the same intensity and passion at Valley Forge, The Battle of Gettysburg,Storming the Beaches of Normandy,Iwo Jima, etc.........

Marxist Dems and RINOs IMO obviously "do not" have this same intense passion for our country and their actions have revealed it.:thumb:

Mr. Flopnuts
06-11-2011, 12:27 PM
Anyone who thinks it's Democrats vs Republicans needs to wake up. It's central planning via the Federal Reserve Banking system that enables the socialists (Ds) and mercantilists (Rs) who are ruining the country by placing too much power in the central govt for their own agendas.

Sure, it's true, that the Democrats have had 6 years to fix the situation and they've worsened what the Bush Republicans gave us, but if your a Misean and want to get to the roots of the matter it's in our system what is ailing it and has been there for quite awhile with the last 16 years under the stewardship of Greenspan.

JFC. It's really not difficult to see. 1 party started it, and the other is happily continuing it. This country needs a true conservative to lead it out of this shit storm. The problem is, true conservatives aren't generally politicians.

Chiefshrink
06-11-2011, 12:34 PM
JFC. It's really not difficult to see. 1 party started it, and the other is happily continuing it. This country needs a true conservative to lead it out of this shit storm. The problem is, true conservatives aren't generally politicians.

Are you a conservative?

Mr. Flopnuts
06-11-2011, 04:05 PM
Are you a conservative?

I'm not a Republican, and on certain issues I'm a "left leaning loon". However when it comes to our monetary policy, and some other issues, I'm definitely a conservative.

BucEyedPea
06-11-2011, 04:28 PM
Your statement here is accurate and one of the words she used in her title was "GREED" and that is what you are describing in reference to socialists and mercantilists.:thumb:

What did Jesus say about the "love of $$" ? You can't serve 2 masters:thumb:

“The object of all despotism is revenue” – Thomas Paine


That goes for the social justice crowd wanting funds, scientists wanting funds as well as mercantilist interests wanting gauranteed funds by cornering markets using govt.

tmh
06-12-2011, 02:53 PM
the real problem is the people, and until we get our acts together, the system isnt going to change. our politicians are simply a reflection of us, and the current system is far to ingrain in the people now to ever get it out. once people realize in a representative republic that they can vote benifits for themselves self reliance goes out the window.

banyon
06-12-2011, 03:09 PM
Anyone who thinks it's Democrats vs Republicans needs to wake up. It's central planning via the Federal Reserve Banking system that enables the socialists (Ds) and mercantilists (Rs) who are ruining the country by placing too much power in the central govt for their own agendas.

Sure, it's true, that the Democrats have had 6 years to fix the situation and they've worsened what the Bush Republicans gave us, but if your a Misean and want to get to the roots of the matter it's in our system what is ailing it and has been there for quite awhile with the last 16 years under the stewardship of Greenspan.

Er, what 6 years?

ClevelandBronco
06-12-2011, 03:19 PM
Er, what 6 years?

2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 and half of 2011. Six years.

banyon
06-12-2011, 03:21 PM
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 and half of 2011. Six years.

The Democrats controlled Congress (which actually passes laws and budgets) all that time ?

ClevelandBronco
06-12-2011, 03:26 PM
The Democrats controlled Congress (which actually passes laws and budgets) all that time ?

We're going to need a little leeway on this math.

banyon
06-12-2011, 03:30 PM
We're going to need a little leeway on this math.

Well that's what you get for trying to cover up for another of BEP's factual exaggerations. :p

petegz28
06-12-2011, 04:09 PM
The Democrats controlled Congress (which actually passes laws and budgets) all that time ?

Um, yep....let's round up for the 6

banyon
06-12-2011, 07:11 PM
Um, yep....let's round up for the 6

Uh, no.

2 years, 09-10'. That's it.

Every other year either Republicans controlled one or both of the other branches since 1995.

Chiefshrink
06-12-2011, 07:17 PM
Dems have controlled Congress since Jan 2007 when they took back control after the 2006 elections. At that time, I believe there was a 600 bil annual budget deficit with an overall 5 tril in unfunded liabilities in overall debt.

Since 2007 our annual budget defecit to date stands at 4-5 tril and our unfunded liabilities in overall debt stands at 14 tril.

5 trillion to 14 trillon in just 4 yrs (2007-2010). Who had the majority??? Just f**king insane:#

And to think Obama and his minion Dem Marxists and the spineless RINOs want f**king more:cuss: in raising the debt ceiling scaring us all about defaulting on our debt(a la "Alinskyizing" the debt ceiling issue)

Total :BS:

banyon
06-12-2011, 07:38 PM
Dems have controlled Congress since Jan 2007 when they took back control after the 2006 elections. At that time, I believe there was a 600 bil annual budget deficit with an overall 5 tril in unfunded liabilities in overall debt.

Since 2007 our annual budget defecit to date stands at 4-5 tril and our unfunded liabilities in overall debt stands at 14 tril.

5 trillion to 14 trillon in just 4 yrs (2007-2010). Who had the majority??? Just f**king insane:#

And to think Obama and his minion Dem Marxists and the spineless RINOs want f**king more:cuss: in raising the debt ceiling scaring us all about defaulting on our debt(a la "Alinskyizing" the debt ceiling issue)

Total :BS:

What's f*cking insane is someone who is so partisan they can't admit that having the Presidency controlled by a different party for two of those years might impact your ability to govern, particularly when that president goes from issuing the fewest vetoes per year when his party was in power to the most when his party is out.

Even when these Dems had control in 09 and 10', they squandered it, not passing any programs of significance (other than the dreaded "Obamacare"). Not even passing budgets in a timely way to create the debt. This country was in debt up to its ears when the Dems took control, and then the Recession took it up a level when Bush and the Dems in Congress mistakenly decided they needed to bail out out of their corporate buddies.

This is a systemic problem, and both sides have very dirty hands. Pretending otherwise is pretty ignorant really.

ClevelandBronco
06-12-2011, 08:26 PM
Uh, no.

2 years, 09-10'. That's it.

Every other year either Republicans controlled one or both of the other branches since 1995.

Wait a minute. We were funnin' with each other up above, but are you saying that the democrats weren't the majority in the Senate after the 2006 elections? Care to explain how Harry Reid became Senate Majority Leader as a result of that election?

(And we all know about Lieberman and Sanders. Even if we don't count them as democrats, your last sentence isn't quite true.)

banyon
06-12-2011, 10:19 PM
Wait a minute. We were funnin' with each other up above, but are you saying that the democrats weren't the majority in the Senate after the 2006 elections? Care to explain how Harry Reid became Senate Majority Leader as a result of that election?

(And we all know about Lieberman and Sanders. Even if we don't count them as democrats, your last sentence isn't quite true.)

Let's not forget the original quote I was replying to, which said that "the Democrats have had 6 years to fix the problem". That's not "the Democrats in Congress", that implies something more, control of the process.

ClevelandBronco
06-12-2011, 10:57 PM
Let's not forget the original quote I was replying to, which said that "the Democrats have had 6 years to fix the problem". That's not "the Democrats in Congress", that implies something more, control of the process.

I'm following you now.

Okay. 2009, 2010, part of 2011. We'll settle on five years.