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HonestChieffan
06-20-2011, 05:48 PM
CA, AZ, NM, and Texas should shut the damn border down. This POS President could not care less.

White House loosens border rules for 2012


By Neil Munro



President Barack Obama’s administration is quietly offering a quasi-amnesty for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants aiming to win reelection by mobilizing a wave of new Hispanic voters without alienating the populous at large, say supporters of stronger immigration law enforcement.

The new rules were quietly announced Friday with a new memo from top officials at the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. The “prosecutorial discretion” memo says officials need not enforce immigration laws if illegal immigrants are enrolled in an education center or if their relatives have volunteered for the US military.

“They’re pushing the [immigration] agents to be even more lax, to go further in not enforcing the law,” said Kris Kobach, Kansas’ secretary of state. “At a time when millions of Americans are unemployed and looking for work, this is more bad news coming from the Obama administration… [if the administration] really cared about putting Americans back to work, it would be vigorously enforcing the law,” he said.

“We think it is an excellent step,” said Laura Vasquez, at the Hispanic-advocacy group, La Raza, which pushed for the policies, and which is working with other groups to register Hispanics to vote in 2012. “What’s very important is how the prosecutorial discretion memo is implemented” on the streets, she said.

The Hispanic vote could be crucial in the 2012 election, because the Obama campaign hopes to offset its declining poll ratings by registering new Hispanic voters in crucial swing states, such as Virginia and North Carolina.

To boost the Hispanic vote, the administration has enlisted support from Hispanic media figures, appointed an experienced Hispanic political operative to run the political side of the Obama reelection campaign, and has maintained close ties to Hispanic advocacy groups, including La Raza. For example, La Raza’s former senior vice president and lobbyist, Cecilia Munoz, was hired by the Obama administration as director of intergovernmental affairs in 2009.

On Friday, officials at ICE announced several new administrative changes to immigration enforcement.

The primary document was the six-page “prosecutorial discretion” memo, which provided new reasons for officials to not deport illegal immigrants.

“When weighing whether an exercise of prosecutorial discretion may be warranted for a given alien, ICE officials, agents and attorneys should consider all relevant factors, including, but not limited to – the circumstances of the person’s arrival in the United States … particularly if the alien came to the United States as a young child; the Person’s pursuit of education… .. whether the person, or the person’s immediate relative, has served in the U.S. military,” said the memo.

“The factors are extremely broad and very troubling … [it] look like a stealth DREAM Act enforcement through non-enforcement,” said Kobach.

The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act has been repeatedly rejected by Congress from 2001 to 2010. “The deliberate non-enforcement of our immigration laws in this administration certainly seems politically motivated,” said Kobach, adding “how exactly they expect to win votes by doing this is beyond me.”

In practice, the new memo won’t make much of a difference because “ICE isn’t deporting people now,” said Jessica Vaughan, an analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies. While pleading limited resources, “they only [deport] individuals with criminal charges,” such as felonies or several misdemeanors, she said.

There are roughly 10 million illegal immigrants in the United States, of which roughly 7 million are working. Business and Democrat-allied advocacy groups have stoutly opposed federal and state efforts to identify and deport the immigrants, but public opposition has repeatedly stopped proposals – including the Obama-backed DREAM Act – to provide the illegal immigrants with amnesties and residency permits.

On Friday, officials also announced a new advisory panel intended “to implement policies stopping the [deportation and] removal of individuals charged with, but not convicted of, minor traffic offenses who have no other criminal history or egregious immigration violations.”

Advocates for illegal immigrants have long argued that police should not deport illegal immigrants who are identified following a traffic violation. “It is not a crime to be be here illegally,” claimed B. Loewe, a spokesman for the National Day Laborers Organizing Network. “Local law-enforcement enforcing immigration laws is a bad idea.”

“It is a misperception that local police are going out to pull people who look like immigrants on trumped-up traffic violations,” countered Vaughan. “They’re not removing people who made a right turn on red light without stopping, because you don’t get arrested of that.”

The agency also announced new training policies for immigration officials, a new policy to shield illegal immigrants from deportation if they seek police protection during a domestic violence episode, and a new form to be given to detained immigrants which tells them they can’t be detained for more than 48 hours by state officials.

These announcements are solutions in search of a problem, said Vaughan. For example, illegal immigrants who successfully show they are domestic violence victims already can get a “U Visa” under an established law, she said. “This is absolutely unheard of for a law enforcement agency to be told to practically apologize for doing its job” of enforcing the law,” she said.

Immigrant advocacy groups said they want to get more from the administration. “We’re continuing to work with the administration for them to show strong leadership and advancing immigration reform,” said Vasquez. “We think there are further steps the administration can take.” For example, the administration should allow people to stay in their country while their immigration cases are settled, she said.

The administration should end the “Secure Communities” program, which allows state and local police to detain illegals for subsequent deportation by federal authorities, said Loewe. “Secure Communities is an experiment they unleashed on the public without any safeguards or regulations… local law-enforcement of immigration laws is a bad idea,” he said.

Tougher enforcement of immigration laws shouldn’t be used to combat high unemployment among poor Americans, he said. Instead, the government should start a major spending program to build schools and libraries, and levy taxes on major corporations. “When were talking about a drain on the economy,” he said, “we should look at the corporations that refuse to pay back their due.”

But the overall goal of the new memos is victory in the 2012 election, not law enforcement, said Vaughan. It is “kabuki theater… designed [by the administration] to send a signal to these groups that they are taking their concerns very seriously.”

“Latino voters are very engaged and watching carefully what is happening with immigration policies,” said Vasquez, “because they’re deeply effected by it, either because they know someone impacted by it, or themselves are impacted by it.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/20/white-house-loosens-border-rules-for-2012/#ixzz1PrZgoUNZ

thecoffeeguy
06-21-2011, 03:02 PM
CA, AZ, NM, and Texas should shut the damn border down. This POS President could not care less.

White House loosens border rules for 2012


By Neil Munro



President Barack Obama’s administration is quietly offering a quasi-amnesty for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants aiming to win reelection by mobilizing a wave of new Hispanic voters without alienating the populous at large, say supporters of stronger immigration law enforcement.

The new rules were quietly announced Friday with a new memo from top officials at the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. The “prosecutorial discretion” memo says officials need not enforce immigration laws if illegal immigrants are enrolled in an education center or if their relatives have volunteered for the US military.

“They’re pushing the [immigration] agents to be even more lax, to go further in not enforcing the law,” said Kris Kobach, Kansas’ secretary of state. “At a time when millions of Americans are unemployed and looking for work, this is more bad news coming from the Obama administration… [if the administration] really cared about putting Americans back to work, it would be vigorously enforcing the law,” he said.

“We think it is an excellent step,” said Laura Vasquez, at the Hispanic-advocacy group, La Raza, which pushed for the policies, and which is working with other groups to register Hispanics to vote in 2012. “What’s very important is how the prosecutorial discretion memo is implemented” on the streets, she said.

The Hispanic vote could be crucial in the 2012 election, because the Obama campaign hopes to offset its declining poll ratings by registering new Hispanic voters in crucial swing states, such as Virginia and North Carolina.

To boost the Hispanic vote, the administration has enlisted support from Hispanic media figures, appointed an experienced Hispanic political operative to run the political side of the Obama reelection campaign, and has maintained close ties to Hispanic advocacy groups, including La Raza. For example, La Raza’s former senior vice president and lobbyist, Cecilia Munoz, was hired by the Obama administration as director of intergovernmental affairs in 2009.

On Friday, officials at ICE announced several new administrative changes to immigration enforcement.

The primary document was the six-page “prosecutorial discretion” memo, which provided new reasons for officials to not deport illegal immigrants.

“When weighing whether an exercise of prosecutorial discretion may be warranted for a given alien, ICE officials, agents and attorneys should consider all relevant factors, including, but not limited to – the circumstances of the person’s arrival in the United States … particularly if the alien came to the United States as a young child; the Person’s pursuit of education… .. whether the person, or the person’s immediate relative, has served in the U.S. military,” said the memo.

“The factors are extremely broad and very troubling … [it] look like a stealth DREAM Act enforcement through non-enforcement,” said Kobach.

The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act has been repeatedly rejected by Congress from 2001 to 2010. “The deliberate non-enforcement of our immigration laws in this administration certainly seems politically motivated,” said Kobach, adding “how exactly they expect to win votes by doing this is beyond me.”

In practice, the new memo won’t make much of a difference because “ICE isn’t deporting people now,” said Jessica Vaughan, an analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies. While pleading limited resources, “they only [deport] individuals with criminal charges,” such as felonies or several misdemeanors, she said.

There are roughly 10 million illegal immigrants in the United States, of which roughly 7 million are working. Business and Democrat-allied advocacy groups have stoutly opposed federal and state efforts to identify and deport the immigrants, but public opposition has repeatedly stopped proposals – including the Obama-backed DREAM Act – to provide the illegal immigrants with amnesties and residency permits.

On Friday, officials also announced a new advisory panel intended “to implement policies stopping the [deportation and] removal of individuals charged with, but not convicted of, minor traffic offenses who have no other criminal history or egregious immigration violations.”

Advocates for illegal immigrants have long argued that police should not deport illegal immigrants who are identified following a traffic violation. “It is not a crime to be be here illegally,” claimed B. Loewe, a spokesman for the National Day Laborers Organizing Network. “Local law-enforcement enforcing immigration laws is a bad idea.”

“It is a misperception that local police are going out to pull people who look like immigrants on trumped-up traffic violations,” countered Vaughan. “They’re not removing people who made a right turn on red light without stopping, because you don’t get arrested of that.”

The agency also announced new training policies for immigration officials, a new policy to shield illegal immigrants from deportation if they seek police protection during a domestic violence episode, and a new form to be given to detained immigrants which tells them they can’t be detained for more than 48 hours by state officials.

These announcements are solutions in search of a problem, said Vaughan. For example, illegal immigrants who successfully show they are domestic violence victims already can get a “U Visa” under an established law, she said. “This is absolutely unheard of for a law enforcement agency to be told to practically apologize for doing its job” of enforcing the law,” she said.

Immigrant advocacy groups said they want to get more from the administration. “We’re continuing to work with the administration for them to show strong leadership and advancing immigration reform,” said Vasquez. “We think there are further steps the administration can take.” For example, the administration should allow people to stay in their country while their immigration cases are settled, she said.

The administration should end the “Secure Communities” program, which allows state and local police to detain illegals for subsequent deportation by federal authorities, said Loewe. “Secure Communities is an experiment they unleashed on the public without any safeguards or regulations… local law-enforcement of immigration laws is a bad idea,” he said.

Tougher enforcement of immigration laws shouldn’t be used to combat high unemployment among poor Americans, he said. Instead, the government should start a major spending program to build schools and libraries, and levy taxes on major corporations. “When were talking about a drain on the economy,” he said, “we should look at the corporations that refuse to pay back their due.”

But the overall goal of the new memos is victory in the 2012 election, not law enforcement, said Vaughan. It is “kabuki theater… designed [by the administration] to send a signal to these groups that they are taking their concerns very seriously.”

“Latino voters are very engaged and watching carefully what is happening with immigration policies,” said Vasquez, “because they’re deeply effected by it, either because they know someone impacted by it, or themselves are impacted by it.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/20/white-house-loosens-border-rules-for-2012/#ixzz1PrZgoUNZ

Figures.
I would expect nothing less from this worthless POTUS.

vailpass
06-21-2011, 03:29 PM
That uppity mother fucker needs bitch slapped all the way out of the White House.

Chocolate Hog
06-21-2011, 03:31 PM
This will raise the unemployment numbers too. Only an idiot would vote for a guy who's economy is at 9.1 unemployment.

vailpass
06-21-2011, 03:41 PM
This will raise the unemployment numbers too. Only an illegal alien or an illegal alienadvocate, a black guy, a liberal loon or an idiot would vote for a guy who's economy is at 9.1 unemployment.

Unfortuneately there is no shortage of any of these in today's USA.

talastan
06-21-2011, 03:43 PM
This will raise the unemployment numbers too. Only an idiot would vote for a guy who's economy is at 9.1 unemployment.

It's Bush's fault /Obama adminstration, MSM, and every leftie loon out there.

;)

talastan
06-21-2011, 03:47 PM
Nice to see the rule of law thrown out the window. The adminstration already chooses who Obamacare applies to, why not immigration? Or better yet enforcement of fair electorial practices or EPA regulations. One law for one class of individuals, one law for the others. :shake:

Bwana
06-21-2011, 04:54 PM
Wow, what a pile of crap.

vailpass
06-21-2011, 05:04 PM
We need to lay about 10 million #330 connibear double springs across the border then give president shitbird the opportunity to go on patrol.

Fish
06-21-2011, 05:05 PM
Opens borders?

LMAO....

mnchiefsguy
06-21-2011, 05:13 PM
Obama must think he needs those Mexican votes.

BucEyedPea
06-21-2011, 05:20 PM
Obama must think he needs those Mexican votes.

I wonder how many will actually come in this time with no jobs available? I read most of them returned home when the economy tanked. One good thing about it all.

HonestChieffan
06-21-2011, 05:24 PM
Most of who?

Bump
06-21-2011, 05:25 PM
the MS-13's are very excited about this.

banyon
06-21-2011, 05:28 PM
Speaking of POS's...

Kris Kobach, Kansas’ secretary of state

Glad to see this guy is still preoccupied with these issues and only checking into the office KS voters elected him to do maybe once a month.

banyon
06-21-2011, 05:28 PM
But I don't think Obama's memo is very carefully thought out if the summary is accurate.

Predarat
06-21-2011, 05:40 PM
I will laugh my ass off if this stupid son of a bitch gets knocked out in the primaries.

BucEyedPea
06-21-2011, 05:47 PM
Most of who?

Are you asking me? Border as in Mexicans as in Hispanics.

ClevelandBronco
06-21-2011, 05:51 PM
Are you asking me? Border as in Mexicans as in Hispanics.

Are you saying that you actually believe that most of "them" have retreated back across the border?

I wonder how many will actually come in this time with no jobs available? I read most of them returned home when the economy tanked. One good thing about it all.

HonestChieffan
06-21-2011, 06:54 PM
Are you saying that you actually believe that most of "them" have retreated back across the border?


This will be good.....

ClevelandBronco
06-22-2011, 09:34 AM
This will be good.....

Perhaps not. I think she's just hoping that no one else noticed.

Hydrae
06-22-2011, 11:51 AM
I swear, you cannot make up comedy this golden:

“It is not a crime to be be here illegally,” claimed B. Loewe, a spokesman for the National Day Laborers Organizing Network.

LOLWUT?

vailpass
06-22-2011, 11:57 AM
I swear, you cannot make up comedy this golden:



LOLWUT?

This is how they think because we have allowed them to do so.
Take the boys coming home from Afghanistan and place them all along our border. Mark off a no-go zone encompassing 100 feet from our border and give the green light to enforce with live rounds.

Donger
06-22-2011, 11:59 AM
Here is the memo:

http://www.ice.gov/doclib/secure-communities/pdf/prosecutorial-discretion-memo.pdf

Donger
06-22-2011, 12:04 PM
I swear, you cannot make up comedy this golden:



LOLWUT?

Well, that's actually correct.

patteeu
06-22-2011, 12:21 PM
I swear, you cannot make up comedy this golden:



LOLWUT?

It's not a violation of criminal law, it's a violation of civil law. So, as Donger says, it's technically correct.

Hydrae
06-22-2011, 12:23 PM
Well, that's actually correct.

Ok, so explain to my slow ass. If something is "illegal", how is it not a crime?

Hydrae
06-22-2011, 12:25 PM
From dictionary.com:

crime   /kraɪm/ Show Spelled[krahym] Show IPA
noun
1. an action or an instance of negligence that is deemed injurious to the public welfare or morals or to the interests of the state and that is legally prohibited.

il·le·gal   /ɪˈligəl/ Show Spelled[ih-lee-guhl] Show IPA
adjective
1. forbidden by law or statute.

Garcia Bronco
06-22-2011, 12:35 PM
This will raise the unemployment numbers too. Only an idiot would vote for a guy who's economy is at 9.1 unemployment.

Average is 6 percent assuming 9.1 percent is correct...which I doubt that it is.

Donger
06-22-2011, 12:55 PM
It's not a violation of criminal law, it's a violation of civil law. So, as Donger says, it's technically correct.

As I understand it, the first time they are caught, it is a civil infraction. If they get caught again, it's a felony.

Donger
06-22-2011, 12:59 PM
Here's some good news, though:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Man-Shot-Killed-at-US-Mexico-Border-124347629.html?dr

BucEyedPea
06-22-2011, 01:00 PM
This will be good.....

May I ask who you are addressing? BTW I saw what you quoted and I'll assume that was addressed to me as well. If not then...whatever.

This is not where I first saw this report. I merely googled it just now but I do remember reading about it earlier.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-04/world/mexico.reverse.migration_1_mexican-migrants-border-patrol-agents-tucson-sector?_s=PM:WORLD


Tide turns: Sharp increase in number of Mexicans returning home

The number of Mexican migrants returning to their country -- mainly from the United States -- has increased dramatically in the last five years compared with the previous five years.

According to the most recent numbers released by the Mexican census bureau, the increase was 31.9% in the period from 2005 to 2010, compared with 2000 to 2005 numbers.

The Mexican Institute of Statistics and Geography -- INEGI by its Spanish acronym -- says that during the last five years of the decade, 1.1 million Mexicans left their country. According to the government agency, by the time the national census was taken last summer, more than 351,000 Mexican migrants had returned to Mexico.

Two factors played a role in changing the pattern, according to Eduardo Sojo, INEGI's president,

"The first factor was the situation of the economy in the United States, which decreased the number of (employment) options for migrants. The second factor was the increasing difficulties migrants have when they attempt to cross the border (illegally)," said Sojo.

The economic downturn that hit the United States towards the end of 2008 had a negative effect on American manufacturing firms that traditionally employed Mexican migrants, legal or otherwise. Many Mexican laborers with no specialized training had no option but to return home....

RNR
06-22-2011, 02:09 PM
This is not where I first saw this report. I merely googled it just now but I do remember reading about it earlier.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-04/world/mexico.reverse.migration_1_mexican-migrants-border-patrol-agents-tucson-sector?_s=PM:WORLD

A good start I wish our government would help the other 68.1% go home~

ClevelandBronco
06-22-2011, 02:13 PM
I wonder how many will actually come in this time with no jobs available? I read most of them returned home when the economy tanked. One good thing about it all.

So you were dead wrong, eh BEP? Par for the course.

KC native
06-22-2011, 02:19 PM
Here's some good news, though:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Man-Shot-Killed-at-US-Mexico-Border-124347629.html?dr

stay classy.

RNR
06-22-2011, 02:24 PM
Here's some good news, though:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Man-Shot-Killed-at-US-Mexico-Border-124347629.html?dr

A job well done~

KC native
06-22-2011, 02:28 PM
A job well done~

stay a raider fan.

RNR
06-22-2011, 02:30 PM
stay a raider fan.

Stay a worthless shitbag that supports criminals that should be removed from our country~

KC native
06-22-2011, 02:34 PM
Stay a worthless shitbag that supports criminals that should be removed from our country~

I guarantee I contribute more to our society than your ass. Like I said, stay a raider fan.

Donger
06-22-2011, 02:39 PM
stay classy.

Well, I'd rather that this dead guy had not decided to try to enter our country illegally, but he did. He then decided to fight our countrymen guarding our border. Sounds like rather poor judgment to me.

RNR
06-22-2011, 02:46 PM
I guarantee I contribute more to our society than your ass. Like I said, stay a raider fan.

Talking out your ass about something you know nothing about....again~

patteeu
06-22-2011, 03:03 PM
stay classy.

What do you think the border officer should have done?

mikey23545
06-22-2011, 03:08 PM
What do you think the border officer should have done?

Registered him as a Democrat?

vailpass
06-22-2011, 03:08 PM
I guarantee I contribute more to our society than your ass. Like I said, stay a raider fan.

:LOL: Go get ya' shinebox you frijole puke. I'd like to buy you for what you are worth and sell you for what RNR is worth.

vailpass
06-22-2011, 03:10 PM
Here's some good news, though:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Man-Shot-Killed-at-US-Mexico-Border-124347629.html?dr

Make that standard procedure and see how fast these cockroaches start to stay the hell off the border.

RNR
06-22-2011, 03:15 PM
:LOL: Go get ya' shinebox you frijole puke. I'd like to buy you for what you are worth and sell you for what RNR is worth.

I would buy for what he is worth and sell him for what he thinks he is worth and donate the huge profit to the boarder patrol ;)

mlyonsd
06-22-2011, 04:46 PM
What do you think the border officer should have done?Shoot him in the leg and then call an ambulance so we could pay for his care.

HonestChieffan
06-22-2011, 05:01 PM
Shoot him in the leg and then call an ambulance so we could pay for his care.

Call a Mexican Ambulance.....

vailpass
06-22-2011, 05:03 PM
Call a Mexican Ambulance.....

Ok but they need to borrow some jumper cables.

HonestChieffan
06-22-2011, 05:05 PM
Ok but they need to borrow some jumper cables.

Borrow? Is that what that is?

banyon
06-22-2011, 06:35 PM
Here is the memo:

http://www.ice.gov/doclib/secure-communities/pdf/prosecutorial-discretion-memo.pdf

Candidly, after reading the memo, it doesn't seem as objectionable as the OP and Kobach make it out to be.

Saul Good
06-22-2011, 07:01 PM
Borrow? Is that what that is?

I think he meant "burro" which is what the Mexican EMTs presumably use for transportation.

The Mad Crapper
06-23-2011, 07:12 AM
I guarantee I contribute more to our society than your ass. Like I said, stay a raider fan.

Is this you:

http://www.iaza.com/work/110624C/iaza18719598992200.gif