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alnorth
06-21-2011, 01:48 PM
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<tr> <td>Final</td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 2 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 9 </td><td> R </td><td> H </td><td> E </td></tr>
<tr> <td> ARI (40-34) </td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 9 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
<tr> <td> KC (31-42) </td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
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Win, (4-7) Joe Saunders 7IP 2R 2ER 3BB 3K 1HR
David Hernandez 1IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Aaron Heilman 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

VS.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/images/logos/80x80/kc.png

Loss, (4-8) Luke Hochevar 7IP 5R 5ER 1BB 6K 1HR
Everett Teaford 1IP 2R 2ER 1BB 1K 1HR
Joakim Soria 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K

Home Runs

ARI

Wily Mo Pena, (1) - Top 5th solo shot to center
Chris Young, (15) - Top 8th 2-run homer to left

KC

Alex Gordon, (9) - Bottom 1st leadoff solo shot to right

Royals Prospects Today

AAA: Johnny Giavotella, (2B) 1/5 (1 double)
AAA: Lorenzo Cain, (CF) 2/4, 1BB
AA: Christian Colon, (SS) 2/4, 1BB (1 double)
AA: Wil Myers, (RF) 3/4, 1BB, 1K (1 double)
AA: Salvador Perez, (C) 1/5 (1 double)

Starting Lineups

ARI

1. Ryan Roberts, 3B
2. Kelly Johnson, 2B
3. Justin Upton, RF
4. Stephen Drew, SS
5. Chris Young, CF
6. Miguel Montero, C
7. Wily Mo Pena, DH
8. Juan Miranda, 1B
9. Gerardo Parra, LF

KC

1. Alex Gordon, LF
2. Melky Cabrera, CF
3. Eric Hosmer, 1B
4. Jeff Francoeur, RF
5. Billy Butler, DH
6. Mike Moustakas, 3B
7. Matt Treanor, C
8. Chris Getz, 2B
9. Alcides Escobar, SS

keg in kc
06-21-2011, 01:59 PM
Looks like we're set up for a real pitchers duel tonight.

Mr. Laz
06-21-2011, 04:49 PM
when is Chen coming back?



pretty sad that Chen is our best pitcher now

Pants
06-21-2011, 05:32 PM
Looks like we're set up for a real pitchers duel tonight.

lulz

Okie_Apparition
06-21-2011, 05:55 PM
There is still time to make this into; The Summer Solstice with CoMo thread

chefsos
06-21-2011, 06:34 PM
Wily Mo PenaHoly hell. I thought Wily Mo was outta the league.

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 06:44 PM
Kirk Gibson sure has changed

Saul Good
06-21-2011, 06:47 PM
Holy hell. I thought Wily Mo was outta the league.

He's pretty much Kila. That said, it seems like he always hits bombs against us, so it's probably a good play to have him in the game tonight.

Mr. Laz
06-21-2011, 06:48 PM
lulzHACKER!!!!!!!!!!



*starts dialing the CIA*

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 06:54 PM
Moose has his first home game tonight. Welcome to Kansas City son, make yourself at home, and start hitting the f***ing ball again, damnit!

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:10 PM
Top 1st

Roberts bunt grounds out to third
Johnson grounds out to second
Upton strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 1st

Gordon homers to right
Cabrera grounds out to second
Hosmer grounds out to shortstop
Francoeur walks
Butler walks, Francoeur to second
Moustakas grounds out 1-6-3

1 run, 1 hit

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 07:16 PM
GORGONE

Mr. Laz
06-21-2011, 07:16 PM
domination

BillSelfsTrophycase
06-21-2011, 07:16 PM
He crushed that

Mr. Laz
06-21-2011, 07:18 PM
how awesome would it be if Gordon,Hosmer and Escobar all got going at once? PBJ

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 07:19 PM
how awesome would it be if Gordon,Hosmer and Escobar all got going at once? PBJ

Throw in Moose and Frenchy and I'd say the Royals have a ball team

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:19 PM
Welcome to the American League, D-Backs. Yall ought to realign over to here and stop having a gimp hit in the bottom of your lineups.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:22 PM
wow. Joe Saunders cant find the plate today. The Royals should hang back and wait for the meatball.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:25 PM
Top 2nd

Drew pops out to second
Young lines out to shortstop
Montero flies out to right

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 2nd

Treanor grounds out to shortstop
Getz singles to right
Getz caught stealing 2-6, out at second
Escobar strikes out (looking)

0 runs, 1 hit

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:30 PM
Arizona is trying to give Luke a 75-pitch complete game.

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 07:31 PM
Arizona is trying to give Luke a 75-pitch complete game.

Wait until the 6th or 7th

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:33 PM
Wait until the 6th or 7th

there's no unspoken rule about pitch count or complete games.

Its pretty common to comment about how a pitcher is having easy innings and the other team is hacking their way to a complete game.

Kraus
06-21-2011, 07:35 PM
there's no unspoken rule about pitch count or complete games.

Its pretty common to comment about how a pitcher is having easy innings and the other team is hacking their way to a complete game.

I think he was alluding to how Hoch has a way to always pitch 5 great innings on his way to an easy win, until he hits the 6th or 7th, where inevitably, he melts down.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 07:35 PM
Damnit

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:35 PM
good throw

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 07:36 PM
I think he was alluding to how Hoch has a way to always pitch 5 great innings on his way to an easy win, until he hits the 6th or 7th, where inevitably, he melts down.

I think your right

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:37 PM
Top 3rd

Pena fouls out to first
Miranda strikes out (looking)
Parra grounds out to shortstop

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 3rd

Gordon doubles to right
Cabrera flies out to center, Gordon to third
Hosmer strikes out (swinging)
Francoeur flies out to center

0 runs, 1 hit

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 07:38 PM
Oh snap jeff foxworthy

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:38 PM
keep swinging, Arizona

JASONSAUTO
06-21-2011, 07:40 PM
I think your right

Whats his right?
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stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 07:40 PM
Foxworthy has been a busy dude for years now

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:41 PM
This isn't the national league, you worthless scrubs. Stop bunting in the first 3 innings.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 07:45 PM
Dominating

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 07:45 PM
Alex swinging good tonight

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:45 PM
some early domination

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:47 PM
thats an american league sac bunt

alnorth
06-21-2011, 07:50 PM
Top 4th

Roberts flies out to center
Johnson strikes out (swinging)
Upton doubles to left
Drew flies out to right

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 4th

Butler singles to right
Moustakas flies out to center
Treanor pops out to shortstop
Getz grounds out to second

0 runs, 1 hit

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 07:53 PM
I see Hoch hasn't had his inning yet.

DeezNutz
06-21-2011, 07:55 PM
I see Hoch hasn't had his inning yet.

And this is why I hate Hochevar.

The talent is there--I know, I know, tk...--but something else is missing. Heart? Brain? Who knows, Dorothy. Whatever it is, Hoch is a wuss on the mound.

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 07:58 PM
How many games has Hochevar had where he started out the first 4 or 5 not giving up anything and then having it all come crashing down in one inning? 6 maybe?

Kraus
06-21-2011, 08:00 PM
How many games has Hochevar had where he started out the first 4 or 5 not giving up anything and then having it all come crashing down in one inning? 6 maybe?

He's had 2 No-Hitters through 5, both resulted in a meltdown in the 6th or 7th.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 08:07 PM
Top 5th

Young grounds out to shortstop
Montero strikes out (swinging)
Pena homers to center
Miranda singles to right
Parra flies out to center

1 run, 2 hits

Bottom 5th

Escobar grounds out to third
Gordon flies out to left
Cabrera doubles to left
Hosmer flies out to center

0 runs, 1 hit

alnorth
06-21-2011, 08:07 PM
He's had 2 No-Hitters through 5, both resulted in a meltdown in the 6th or 7th.

He has averaged about 1 complete game per year. Maybe this is his 2011 complete game.

Kraus
06-21-2011, 08:09 PM
He has averaged about 1 complete game per year. Maybe this is his 2011 complete game.

I hope so.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 08:10 PM
Holy Fuck that was a bomb

Reaper16
06-21-2011, 08:11 PM
hahahahahahahahaahahahururuuuruurrrrrrrrrr

Kraus
06-21-2011, 08:11 PM
He's pretty much Kila. That said, it seems like he always hits bombs against us, so it's probably a good play to have him in the game tonight.

You can predict the future.

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 08:13 PM
Lazy ass ump there at first

alnorth
06-21-2011, 08:17 PM
So far, this is the best strike zone I've seen in a while. A few calls are always missed, but its been better than usual.

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 08:22 PM
I wondered about those plays from the other day. Gordon had one thrown behind him, got drilled in the back on the next pitch, and the umps never even warned the benches about it? That's crazy

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 08:22 PM
Sounds like Frank wanted more cards beaned lol after alex got hit

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 08:24 PM
Sounds like Frank wanted more cards beaned lol after alex got hit

Royals still owed the Cardinals from the home series earlier in the year. They beaned a couple that never got paid back

alnorth
06-21-2011, 08:26 PM
almost every important prospect has a double tonight.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 08:26 PM
Top 6th

Roberts walks
Johnson bunts an infield single to catcher, Roberts to second, Roberts out at third 4-5 *
Upton doubles to center, Johnson scores
Drew strikes out (swinging)
Upton to third on a Wild Pitch
Young flies out to left

1 run, 2 hits

* Roberts overslid third base, and Moustakas tagged him out

Bottom 6th

Francoeur flies out to left
Butler grounds out to second
Moustakas strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 0 hits

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 08:31 PM
Here is the "Hoch inning" we have been waiting for. It is time to accept he is not a major league pitcher.

Dartgod
06-21-2011, 08:33 PM
Typical Hochevar. Might as well start pulling him after 5 innings.
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Kraus
06-21-2011, 08:35 PM
Here is the "Hoch inning" we have been waiting for. It is time to accept he is not a major league pitcher.

If he can pitch 6 innings and only give up two, then that isn't on Hoch. Our O needs to step up.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 08:38 PM
Typical Hochevar. Might as well start pulling him after 5 innings.
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yep. 2 earned runs and 5 hits through 6 after 79 pitches is pretty damn terrible.

If we had 4 more pitchers as bad as him, we'd suck our way down to maybe 75 wins with this lineup.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 08:42 PM
Joe Saunders is pitching dipshits

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 08:44 PM
Joe Saunders is pitching dipshits

He has shut down the Royals before. I expected him to do well. Hoch got lucky in the previous inning.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 08:46 PM
Luke has been solid

alnorth
06-21-2011, 08:46 PM
Top 7th

Montero singles to right
Pena strikes out (swinging)
Miranda doubles to right, Montero to third
Parra triples to right, Miranda and Montero scores
Roberts grounds out to pitcher, Parra scores
Johnson flies out to right

3 runs, 3 hits

Bottom 7th

Treanor flies out to right
Getz grounds out 1-6-3
Escobar walks
Gordon triples to right, Escobar scores
Cabrera grounds out to third

1 run, 1 hit

petegz28
06-21-2011, 08:48 PM
we lose

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 08:48 PM
OK Luke. This is where you need to change Nope

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 08:50 PM
Luke has been solid

:facepalm:

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 08:50 PM
NOTHING has changed with Luke.

petegz28
06-21-2011, 08:50 PM
That's the game folks

Blankey
06-21-2011, 08:50 PM
Good god this team blows.

Dartgod
06-21-2011, 08:51 PM
yep. 2 earned runs and 5 hits through 6 after 79 pitches is pretty damn terrible.

If we had 4 more pitchers as bad as him, we'd suck our way down to maybe 75 wins with this lineup.
Like I said. Defend him all you want but he's got a fucking ten cent head.

I can't believe we wasted a first round pick on this loser.
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Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 08:51 PM
Luke is very soft mentally. Once he start's getting the ball up he cannot get it back down. He is a pussy.

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 08:53 PM
He has been so consistent with getting through 5 or 6 innings and then falling apart. Why not only have him pitch that many innings and have one of the bullpen dudes be more suited to throw 2 to 3 innings? Might as well go with what the history of the man shows to be.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 08:53 PM
Left him out there an inning too long

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 08:54 PM
It's great that luke has a 2.00 era in the first 4 innings and then a 20.88 era trhough the 5-7th and then a 2.00 8-9 ip

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 08:59 PM
Escobar is seeing a lot different kind of pitches now that he started hitting

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 09:00 PM
WTF??

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 09:00 PM
Nice damn hit Alex

BillSelfsTrophycase
06-21-2011, 09:01 PM
A single away from the cycle

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 09:02 PM
Fail

alnorth
06-21-2011, 09:03 PM
Top 8th

Everett Teaford relieves Hochevar

Upton flies out to right
Drew walks
Young homers to left, Drew scores
Montero flies out to left
Pena strikes out (swinging)

2 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 8th

David Hernandez relieves Saunders

Hosmer flies out to right
Francoeur strikes out (swinging)
Butler walks
Moustakas fouls out to third

0 runs, 0 hits

alnorth
06-21-2011, 09:04 PM
A single away from the cycle

need a couple walks/hits/errors/HBP/whatever to give him a shot.

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 09:07 PM
Hoch's line ended up sucking.... if you are a major league pitcher you avoid those innings.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 09:10 PM
Not to jinx or anything (since people are already talking about it), but the last cycle in franchise history was 21 years ago. It would be our 7th, which shows how bad we've been lately compared to history.

Probably wont happen. There's a small chance Gordon wont get an AB, and even if he does, there's probably only about a 20-25% chance he'll get a hit, and only a hit.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 09:11 PM
Teaford=POS

Blankey
06-21-2011, 09:12 PM
lol
Now I just want to see Gordon get a single

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 09:13 PM
Alex dont get yourself killed

CoMoChief
06-21-2011, 09:14 PM
Hochevar is not a major league pitcher.....doesn't have the mental capacity for it. He breaks down WAAAAY too much.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 09:14 PM
Willy Mo should never get a fastball

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 09:15 PM
Teaford can get two strikes, but has a hell of a time getting the third

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 09:16 PM
Man.... it sure would be nice to have someone who has legit homerun power. Although the D-Backs are over .500 and seem to be a pretty good team.

Dartgod
06-21-2011, 09:17 PM
Hochevar is not a major league pitcher.....doesn't have the mental capacity for it. He breaks down WAAAAY too much.
But, but, but...

He only gave up 2 runs in six innings.
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alnorth
06-21-2011, 09:20 PM
But, but, but...

He only gave up 2 runs in six innings.
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Q: What do you call a repeated pitching performance which is lights-out early, after 5 innings still has his speed and stuff, and gives up runs in the 6th and 7th inning? In a very small sample size?

A: You call that a weird coincidence.

Hochevar is not an Ace, but he's definitely a #4 at worst, and this obsession with a few bad innings after 5 is silly.

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 09:21 PM
Silly = Loss

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 09:22 PM
Ok retards get on base so gordon has a chance to get up

Dartgod
06-21-2011, 09:27 PM
Q: What do you call a repeated pitching performance which is lights-out early, after 5 innings still has his speed and stuff, and gives up runs in the 6th and 7th inning? In a very small sample size?

A: You call that a weird coincidence.

Hochevar is not an Ace, but he's definitely a #4 at worst, and this obsession with a few bad innings after 5 is silly.
I'm not sure but I think you proved my point.
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stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 09:29 PM
I'm not sure but I think you proved my point.
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LMAO

Coach
06-21-2011, 09:31 PM
Q: What do you call a repeated pitching performance which is lights-out early, after 5 innings still has his speed and stuff, and gives up runs in the 6th and 7th inning? In a very small sample size?

A: You call that a weird coincidence.

Hochevar is not an Ace, but he's definitely a #4 at worst, and this obsession with a few bad innings after 5 is silly.

It's probably because he's soft as a fucking charmin, especially when there are baserunners on base.

I don't know the stats off my head, but that w/o base runners on, he was good. But when someone gets on base, well, all hell may break loose.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 09:32 PM
Silly = Loss

IP, ER, result, comment (if any)

5.2, 3, L, meh
6, 5, ND, poor
7, 3, W
7, 1, W, cool
6, 6, L, bombed
6.1, 6, L, bombed
6.1, 3, W, cool
7, 1, ND, screwed
6, 3, L, not bad
8.2, 1, ND, are you kidding me? What the hell, offense?
7, 7, L, bombed
5, 4, ND, poor
6, 6, L, bombed
7, 2, W, cool
7, 2, L, really screwed.
today: 7 innings, not great, probably a loss.

With a decent offense, Hoch should have, at worst, a .500 record.

He's not an ace, but people are blaming losses on him when it is sometimes our offense. He absolutely is a MLB starting pitcher, in the middle or the back of some rotation. He's an ace for us because we suck at pitching, but we shouldn't be judging him like an ace.

Coach
06-21-2011, 09:34 PM
IP, ER, result, comment (if any)

5.2, 3, L, meh
6, 5, ND, poor
7, 3, W
7, 1, W, cool
6, 6, L, bombed
6.1, 6, L, bombed
6.1, 3, W, cool
7, 1, ND, screwed
6, 3, L, not bad
8.2, 1, ND, are you kidding me? What the hell, offense?
7, 7, L, bombed
5, 4, ND, poor
6, 6, L, bombed
7, 2, W, cool
7, 2, L, really screwed.
today: 7 innings, not great, probably a loss.

With a decent offense, Hoch should have, at worst, a .500 record.

He's not an ace, but people are blaming losses on him when it is sometimes our offense. He absolutely is a MLB starting pitcher, in the middle or the back of some rotation. He's an ace for us because we suck at pitching, but we shouldn't be judging him like an ace.

The problem is though, he was a top 5 pick, and he should be performing like an ace should.

I do agree with your assessment that he is a back-end rotation player, but if that's what he is, well, I hate to say it, but that draft pick was a waste.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 09:36 PM
Top 9th

Joakim Soria relieves Teaford

Miranda strikes out (swinging)
Parra flies out to left
Roberts flies out to right

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 9th

Aaron Heilman relieves Hernandez

Treanor grounds out to third
Getz flies out to left
Escobar pops out to second

0 runs, 0 hits

Diamondbacks win, 7-2

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 09:37 PM
Luke was the #1 overall pick, i think i'll continue to bash his ass if he can't keep his era under 4

stonedstooge
06-21-2011, 09:38 PM
The problem is though, he was a top 5 pick, and he should be performing like an ace should.

I do agree with your assessment that he is a back-end rotation player, but if that's what he is, well, I hate to say it, but that draft pick was a waste.

The problem is I think he has good enough stuff to be a No. 1. The dude can mow down an offense for several innings and make them look silly at the plate. So why does he have this affliction of falling apart after giving up one or two hits? He has the shit, just doesn't know how to use it

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 09:39 PM
Hoch is a well below average starting pitcher. That is all, his mental makeup says so.

Coach
06-21-2011, 09:39 PM
The problem is I think he has good enough stuff to be a No. 1. The dude can mow down an offense for several innings and make them look silly at the plate. So why does he have this affliction of falling apart after giving up one or two hits? He has the shit, just doesn't know how to use it

He's soft. Mental toughness is what I think his problem is. I don't know though, I'm just speculating.

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 09:40 PM
Luke was the #1 overall pick, i think i'll continue to bash his ass if he can't keep his era under 4

But remember.. number 1 overall picks are SUPPOSED TO FAIL!!!!111 Thats what the Hoch homers say. Fuck that, he is soft.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 09:40 PM
Of course Gordon gets left on deck, fuck you royals

alnorth
06-21-2011, 09:43 PM
The problem is though, he was a top 5 pick, and he should be performing like an ace should.

I do agree with your assessment that he is a back-end rotation player, but if that's what he is, well, I hate to say it, but that draft pick was a waste.

To hell with when he was picked. We were wrong, we drafted a middle-back of the rotation guy.

In economics we call this a sunk cost, its not his fault he was drafted high. Judging him by his talents, he's still a starting pitcher who would be quickly snatched up in free agency.

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 09:45 PM
To hell with when he was picked. We were wrong, we drafted a middle-back of the rotation guy.

In economics we call this a sunk cost, its not his fault he was drafted high. Judging him by his talents, he's still a starting pitcher who would be quickly snatched up in free agency.

and will never be on a winning team, you do NOT win with guys like Hoch in your organization.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 09:46 PM
Luke was the #1 overall pick, i think i'll continue to bash his ass if he can't keep his era under 4

yell at the guy who drafted him.

Sure-Oz
06-21-2011, 09:47 PM
yell at the guy who drafted him.

Fuck You Dayton, you son of a bitch, horrible pick!

Al Bundy
06-21-2011, 09:50 PM
its not his fault he was drafted high.

Actually it is.. he is the pathetic mental midget that held out a year. It was a big mistake drafting that kind of guy, he always knew in his head he wasn't good enough to earn his way to the league. The Royals were the stupid ones who saw something in the gutless turd..

DeezNutz
06-21-2011, 09:58 PM
Like I said. Defend him all you want but he's got a ****ing ten cent head.

I can't believe we wasted a first round pick on this loser.
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That's exactly what he is. Losers sit out an entire year rather than sign and compete, expecting to make even more money on the second contract.

He's an absolute loser. Period. And Dayton Moore was stupid as fuck for selecting him.

gblowfish
06-21-2011, 10:02 PM
Hey, Royals are officially the worst team in the AL now. And playing .500 at home. Most of our games left are on the road.

One year ago: Royals record: 29-42.
Royals record today: 31-42.

We're two games better in the win column because of less rain outs this year.
Not much progress....need to see some improvement, even if its just a half dozen games or so.

DeezNutz
06-21-2011, 10:09 PM
Let me help you "get to the bottom of it," Luke; you're a weakling on the mound.

Dayton Moore needs to wear that pick as a scarlet letter.

alnorth
06-21-2011, 10:14 PM
minors are done, no one important really had a bad day.

Coach
06-21-2011, 10:19 PM
We need to have a Luke Hochaver Equivalent Walks Hits Innings Pitched(LHEqWHIP) which would account hit balls that does fall in for hits, bad scorers decisions, tremendous offensive plays robbing the pitcher of a out, and good pitches that just fall short of a strikeout.

Deberg_1990
06-22-2011, 10:33 AM
Hey, Royals are officially the worst team in the AL now. And playing .500 at home. Most of our games left are on the road.

One year ago: Royals record: 29-42.
Royals record today: 31-42.

We're two games better in the win column because of less rain outs this year.
Not much progress....need to see some improvement, even if its just a half dozen games or so.

But the Minors are Loaded!!

ChiefsCountry
06-22-2011, 10:47 AM
We're two games better in the win column because of less rain outs this year.
Not much progress....need to see some improvement, even if its just a half dozen games or so.

Not much progress? Bullshit on that. This is a better team than last year's.

gblowfish
06-22-2011, 10:49 AM
Last place is last place is last place is last place.

DeezNutz
06-22-2011, 10:49 AM
Not much progress? Bullshit on that. This is a better team than last year's.

Pitching staff is exponentially worse because of the absence of Greinke. We're running out a bunch of fives/long relievers.

ChiefsCountry
06-22-2011, 12:05 PM
Pitching staff is exponentially worse because of the absence of Greinke. We're running out a bunch of fives/long relievers.

We knew that going into the season though. The young guys being called up and getting Escobar have made it an improvement over the shit we have been used to seeing. Defensivly we are improved, offensivly we are improved, bullpen looks strong. Average starting pitching we could have improved the win column quite a bit.

DeezNutz
06-22-2011, 12:07 PM
Absolutely. Just don't know where that average starting pitching is going to come from unless the n00bs on the farm rebound substantially.

alnorth
06-22-2011, 12:41 PM
Absolutely. Just don't know where that average starting pitching is going to come from unless the n00bs on the farm rebound substantially.

This has been one thing thats been weird this season. You figure some prospects will take a step forward, and some will take a step back. Duffy has been OK, and we somehow rescued Paulino off the trash heap, but for the most part just about every major hitting prospect has either maintained or taken a big step up, and just about every major pitching prospect has struggled. You woulda thought it would be a mix, where maybe Moose and Giavotella would suck, but Montgomery and Duffy would both be great.

Unfortunately, pitching is harder to get than hitting (except in premium positions). It is too early to say the future is in trouble, but our pitching just has to come around or we'll be losing games 9-7 in 2013-14 on our way to .500 seasons.

gblowfish
06-22-2011, 12:56 PM
Royals offense has been above league average. Put that up against the worst starting pitching in the AL (hands down, no contest) and you get no traction. This year IS last year where it counts, in the W-L column. Sure, we're better in some ways, but not showing any real progress. I just want progress, even if its a five or six game improvement over last year. So far, no dice.

Rebuilding, building for the future, getting guys experience, yap yap yap....OK, I'm down with that. But how bout showing some improvement where it counts, like...in the standings for example. Just don't finish last. Is that too much to ask?

Arsonist
06-22-2011, 03:00 PM
gotta spend money to even get 3 4 and 5 pitchers, other wise hope that you never draft a bust.