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Deberg_1990
06-22-2011, 12:02 PM
6 hits away from 3000.......

Underrated? Overrated? Rated just about right?

Sofa King
06-22-2011, 12:03 PM
I hate the Yankees /most baseball fans

gblowfish
06-22-2011, 12:04 PM
He's probably got several STDs....

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-22-2011, 12:04 PM
Good player, but overrated due to the team he plays for. Him winning 5 gold gloves is absolutely criminal.

blaise
06-22-2011, 12:05 PM
Just about right. The whole, "Mr Clutch" thing was the only real BS thing, to me. If he got a hit in a playoff game it was, "Mr. Clutch!" If he grounded into a DP it was, "And that's the end of the inning."
Getting 3,000 hits as a SS is no small feat, I don't care how much protection you have. And I hate the Yanks. No matter what, in 25 years he's going to be in Yankee lore right up there with Mantle and Joe D.

He has won at least one Gold Glove he didn't deserve, though.

SuperChief
06-22-2011, 12:06 PM
Yankee captain = HoF bound.

KurtCobain
06-22-2011, 12:07 PM
Jeter is what Jeter does.

Jewish Rabbi
06-22-2011, 12:07 PM
He's a biracial angel.

milkman
06-22-2011, 12:07 PM
Good player, but overrated due to the team he plays for.

Through most of his career, he's been the picture of consistency, and come up with timely hits.

Overall, I'd call him slightly overrated, but not to an extent that makes me want to reach out and choke the useless bastards that overrate him.

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-22-2011, 12:08 PM
Through most of his career, he's been the picture of consistency, and come up with timely hits.

Overall, I'd call him slightly overrated, but not to an extent that makes me want to reach out and choke the useless bastards that overrate him.

I added to my post to why I thought that way.

Demonpenz
06-22-2011, 12:09 PM
if the royals organization teaches people to slide Jeremy Giami scores.

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-22-2011, 12:10 PM
Now, that play is one of the most overrated I've ever seen. I thought Breneman was going to leap out of the broadcast booth, go down on the field, and suck Jeter's cock.

KurtCobain
06-22-2011, 12:13 PM
Now, that play is one of the most overrated I've ever seen. I thought Breneman was going to leap out of the broadcast booth, go down on the field, and suck Jeter's cock.

LMAO

HotRoute
06-22-2011, 12:16 PM
Who is this derek jeeter you speak of?

MIAdragon
06-22-2011, 12:16 PM
http://bp2.blogger.com/_2rTR2Dls5Yg/SIygnJwgCtI/AAAAAAAAA_o/7mjIkBSn9Cg/s400/jeter+overrated.jpg


now that being said, he will be a first ballot Hall of Fame guy, and probable deserves it. BTW love the Yankees are stuck with his ass for the next 4 years.

Predarat
06-22-2011, 12:17 PM
His hookers say Derek Jeter has a little peter, but he has alot of money, so they don't care, some of them even let him pull thier hair.

thurman merman
06-22-2011, 12:28 PM
Good player, but overrated due to the team he plays for.

Ding ding ding. He's had a good career, but is definitely not as good as advertised.

Garcia Bronco
06-22-2011, 12:30 PM
How many rings does he have? 5? I am sorry...but that is not typically the resume of someone who is overrated

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-22-2011, 12:37 PM
How many rings does he have? 5? I am sorry...but that is not typically the resume of someone who is overrated

I'm sure that has nothing to do with the insane amount of talent he's played with in his career. Not every player gets to play with a stacked deck every season. I'm sure he'd have multiple "rings" with the Royals :rolleyes:

Bump
06-22-2011, 12:43 PM
he's one of those guys who played for the yankees his entire career. He didn't juice up one season so he could get a big payday with them. I respect him for that.

KCinNY
06-22-2011, 02:56 PM
3000 hits for a middle infielder is pretty damn impressive...Yankee or not.

Deberg_1990
07-09-2011, 12:12 PM
Congrats Jeter!

KurtCobain
07-09-2011, 12:15 PM
Yeah, pretty fucking impressive.

ChiefsandO'sfan
07-09-2011, 12:16 PM
Hope that fan is smart and sell that crap i bet it could get $100,000

Bambi
07-09-2011, 02:03 PM
Hope that fan is smart and sell that crap i bet it could get $100,000

He's already given it back.

Took a new hat and suite tickets from today through the playoffs. Pretty class kid it looked like.

Guru
07-09-2011, 02:04 PM
meh. He is a Yankee so,...

Bacon Cheeseburger
07-09-2011, 02:05 PM
He's a homo.

Bambi
07-09-2011, 02:06 PM
He's a homo.

5 for 5 today and just knocked in the go ahead run to take the lead.

Bacon Cheeseburger
07-09-2011, 02:08 PM
5 for 5 today and just knocked in the go ahead run to take the lead.
He's a flaming fucking AIDS-infested homo.

alanm
07-09-2011, 02:09 PM
5 for 5 today and just knocked in the go ahead run to take the lead.I hate the Yankees but I have watched today's game on the MLB network.

Blankey
07-09-2011, 02:12 PM
fag

Bambi
07-09-2011, 02:16 PM
He's a flaming ****ing AIDS-infested homo.

He's fucked:

Mariah Carey
Scarlett Johannson
Lara Dutta
Jordana Brewster
Vanessa Minello
Jessica Alba
Adriana
Jessica Biel
Minka Kelly

RedThat
07-09-2011, 02:16 PM
Jeter is very consistent and one of the better clutch hitters. jmo.

Count Zarth
07-09-2011, 02:16 PM
If Michael Young played in New York he'd be a much bigger star than Derek Jeter.

Bambi
07-09-2011, 02:18 PM
If Michael Young played in New York he'd be a much bigger star than Derek Jeter.

who? The guy that plays for the texas rangers?

teedubya
07-09-2011, 02:18 PM
I don't hate Jeter, as he was DRAFTED by the Yankees. I'd hate him if he was another FA pickup. Since, he was a draftee, played his whole career in pinstripes, won several WS, and now has over 3000 hits. Nothing but respect for him, from me.

CoMoChief
07-09-2011, 02:18 PM
One of the most clutch players ever......in any sport.

Most people hate him because he's a Yankee.

However, most people would love to be in that guy's shoes.

CoMoChief
07-09-2011, 02:18 PM
If Michael Young played in New York he'd be a much bigger star than Derek Jeter.

bullshitLMAO

tk13
07-09-2011, 02:19 PM
Some people probably rate him higher than his statistics would really indicate... but he definitely has that "it" factor. There's something intangible about him that makes him a great player. Clutch isn't supposed to exist... but Jeter is definitely one of those guys, like a Bird, Montana, etc... who just seem to come through more often in big moments than average players. Look at today, four hits, his 3000th hit was a HR. Same way with George Brett... hit 3000th hit was in a four hit game. He'll be remembered as a great player just because he did great things at big moments. I think that's part of the reason we watch sports though.

Bacon Cheeseburger
07-09-2011, 02:19 PM
He's fucked:

Mariah Carey
Scarlett Johannson
Lara Dutta
Jordana Brewster
Vanessa Minello
Jessica Alba
Adriana
Jessica Biel
Minka Kelly
Pfft, he just paid all those women to hang out with him as a cover.

tk13
07-09-2011, 02:20 PM
Okay, make that five hits. That's just amazing... it's just something you can't even really quantify.

teedubya
07-09-2011, 02:21 PM
Wait. He's fucked Jessica Alba? Ok, now I hate him.

Guru
07-09-2011, 02:34 PM
Pfft, he just paid all those women to hang out with him as a cover.

Wait. He's ****ed Jessica Alba? Ok, now I hate him.

Double LMAO

Count Zarth
07-09-2011, 02:54 PM
bullshitLMAO

162 game averages:

Michael Young: 199 hits, 38 doubles, 17 HR, 88 RBI, 48 BB, .302 AVG

Derek Jeter: 206 hits, 33 doubles, 16 HR, 79 RBI, 67 BB, .312 AVG

Young has played shortstop, second base and third base for full seasons. If Jeter did that they would be slobbing his knob even more.

And before we forget it,

Michael Young's best year:

221 hits, 40 doubles, 24 HR, 91 RBI, 58 BB, .331 AVG

Derek Jeter's best year:

219 hits, 37 doubles, 24 HR, 102 RBI, 91 BB, .349 AVG

Very little difference between the two players other than Young plays better defense and Jeter has played on far better teams.

|Zach|
07-09-2011, 02:58 PM
I don't care for MLB or NYY but he doesn't seem like a bad guy.

ChiefsCountry
07-09-2011, 03:15 PM
Jeter and Riveria are the two most likeable Yankees. Mainly bc they weren't bought by New York and are pretty classy guys. Overrated for sure, but that is part of playing in New York.

GloryDayz
07-09-2011, 03:19 PM
Jeter and Posada are awesome, the rest of the Yankees can DIAF for all I care.

RippedmyFlesh
07-09-2011, 03:43 PM
If Michael Young played in New York he'd be a much bigger star than Derek Jeter.
Young .254 post season
Jeter .309

Stick to football.

Count Zarth
07-09-2011, 03:45 PM
Young .254 post season
Jeter .309

Stick to football.

Young has only participated in a handful of postseason games. Too small a sample size.

teedubya
07-09-2011, 03:48 PM
Jeter's been pretty consistent, too.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/09/jeter-joins-3000-hit-club_n_891716.html?ref=tw

Kick ass infographic on everyone who ever made the 3,000 hit club.

Guru
07-09-2011, 03:52 PM
Jeter's been pretty consistent, too.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/09/jeter-joins-3000-hit-club_n_891716.html?ref=tw

Kick ass infographic on everyone who ever made the 3,000 hit club.
Very cool graphic. I wonder if anyone will ever come close to Pete Rose.

Guru
07-09-2011, 03:54 PM
George Brett and Craig Biggio are the only ones with no ties on that chart.

RippedmyFlesh
07-09-2011, 03:59 PM
Jeter is not over rated his post season numbers exceed his regular season averages.
He is one of the best players of his era. Always played hard and respectful of others who came before him.He was a major reason for the Yankees return to the top.
He will have a monument in center field when it is all said and done.
Yankee haters can't even begin to comprehend how good he has been.

Brainiac
07-09-2011, 04:01 PM
He's ****ed:

Mariah Carey
Scarlett Johannson
Lara Dutta
Jordana Brewster
Vanessa Minello
Jessica Alba
Adriana
Jessica Biel
Minka Kelly
If I could pick anybody in the world to trade lives with, it would be Derek Jeter. Gets to play baseball for a living, gets to play shortstop (the coolest position there is), gets to be a superstar for the Yankees for 20+ years, and gets to fuck some of the most beautiful women in the world, and smart enough to stay single his entire career (as was George Brett).

Oh yeah, he's also probably got around $100 million in the bank.

Not a bad life.

Brainiac
07-09-2011, 04:03 PM
As far as where he ranks as a player: definitely an excellent player, but a shade below Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle. Somebody (I think it was JoPo) tweeted the other day that Jeter should be with those other guys on a Yankee Mount Rushmore. I disagree. Those 4 stand alone.

notorious
07-09-2011, 04:04 PM
He's a guy that shuts his mouth and gets the job done.


Being a Yankee is his only negative mark, but he didn't choose to be so it's not near as bad.

RippedmyFlesh
07-09-2011, 04:04 PM
If I could pick anybody in the world to trade lives with, it would be Derek Jeter. Gets to play baseball for a living, gets to play shortstop (the coolest position there is), gets to be a superstar for the Yankees for 20+ years, and gets to fuck some of the most beautiful women in the world, and smart enough to stay single his entire career (as was George Brett).

Oh yeah, he's also probably got around $100 million in the bank.

Not a bad life.

Yea one can do alot worse.

And he told everyone who would listen when he was a kid he was going to be ss for the yankees and then did it.

Jayhawkerman2001
07-09-2011, 04:05 PM
I'd say Jeter is just about right. He may play for a team i despise, i just can't find myself hating on him at all. He's never done a single thing to look like a jackass and i actually somewhat admire the guy.

Deberg_1990
07-09-2011, 04:08 PM
So heres an age old argument. Whose more valuable? A guy like Jeter with over 3000 hits, but really didnt walk all that much. Or a guy like Bonds, who didnt get 3000 hits but had alot more total bases and walks than Jeter did.

Predarat
07-09-2011, 04:11 PM
Derek Jeter, they say he has a little peter
but he gets hot chicks so I guess he gives good licks.

Brainiac
07-09-2011, 04:19 PM
So heres an age old argument. Whose more valuable? A guy like Jeter with over 3000 hits, but really didnt walk all that much. Or a guy like Bonds, who didnt get 3000 hits but had alot more total bases and walks than Jeter did.
As much as I dislike Barry Bonds, he was a more valuable player than Jeter. He also had a few more home runs than Jeter.

RippedmyFlesh
07-09-2011, 04:26 PM
So heres an age old argument. Whose more valuable? A guy like Jeter with over 3000 hits, but really didnt walk all that much. Or a guy like Bonds, who didnt get 3000 hits but had alot more total bases and walks than Jeter did.

Depends if you are talking fantasy baseball Bonds.
In rl...Bonds locker room cancer hated by his own teammates..below average fielder..noodle arm that cost his team a playoff series .Jeter set the standard for fellow Yankees to be team first players ..clutch player who hit more homeruns per game in post season than regular season and in his prime a great defensive player.
Bonds walks often intentional /semi intentional. If you pitched to Bonds back in the day you were stupid.
Jeter prob had no more than 10 intentional walks in his career.

loochy
07-09-2011, 04:27 PM
As much as I dislike Barry Bonds, he was a more valuable player than Jeter. He also had a few more home runs than Jeter.

I say total runs scored + total rbi is a good value of total worth. Bonds wins.

RippedmyFlesh
07-09-2011, 04:28 PM
I say total runs scored + total rbi is a good value of total worth. Bonds wins.
Yea because a leadoff/2 hitter gets as many rbi's as a cleanup or 3rd hitter.

loochy
07-09-2011, 04:30 PM
Yea because a leadoff/2 hitter gets as many rbi's as a cleanup or 3rd hitter.

That's why I include runs scored. Runs win games, right?


...I don't really know how to factor in the fielding part though.

kstater
07-09-2011, 05:01 PM
So heres an age old argument. Whose more valuable? A guy like Jeter with over 3000 hits, but really didnt walk all that much. Or a guy like Bonds, who didnt get 3000 hits but had alot more total bases and walks than Jeter did.

Bonds easily.

chiefzilla1501
07-09-2011, 05:35 PM
Jeter and Riveria are the two most likeable Yankees. Mainly bc they weren't bought by New York and are pretty classy guys. Overrated for sure, but that is part of playing in New York.

Not sure if you're trying to say that Rivera is overrated. Because he's definitely not.

I think Jeter is a bit overrated, but he's still going to the hall and deservedly so. And yes, as a Yankee fan, there's no way I would put him above Bonds. Then again, I doubt anyone would accuse Jeter of using steroids.

chiefzilla1501
07-09-2011, 05:37 PM
As far as where he ranks as a player: definitely an excellent player, but a shade below Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle. Somebody (I think it was JoPo) tweeted the other day that Jeter should be with those other guys on a Yankee Mount Rushmore. I disagree. Those 4 stand alone.

It's an interesting case, because Jeter's place in that mix is only because of popularity. And if we're talking popularity, I actually think Donnie Baseball has him beat by quite a bit.

listopencil
07-09-2011, 05:41 PM
Derek Jeter is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

milkman
07-09-2011, 05:44 PM
Not sure if you're trying to say that Rivera is overrated. Because he's definitely not.

I think Jeter is a bit overrated, but he's still going to the hall and deservedly so. And yes, as a Yankee fan, there's no way I would put him above Bonds. Then again, I doubt anyone would accuse Jeter of using steroids.

The thing is, had Bonds not taken steroids, he would have been in the discussion among the all time greats, because he was as complete a player as any in baseball before he started the steroids.

MIAdragon
07-09-2011, 06:03 PM
The thing is, had Bonds not taken steroids, he would have been in the discussion among the all time greats, because he was as complete a player as any in baseball before he started the steroids.

Who knows if he ever played clean.

milkman
07-09-2011, 06:06 PM
Who knows if he ever played clean.

He may not have ever played clean, but his game changed around '98-'99, so it's probably a pretty safe bet that he played clean his first 7 or 8 years.

KurtCobain
07-09-2011, 06:11 PM
Derek Jeter is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

And he knows when I'm feeling uncomfortable.

MIAdragon
07-09-2011, 06:12 PM
He may not have ever played clean, but his game changed around '98-'99, so it's probably a pretty safe bet that he played clean his first 7 or 8 years.

Or he started using the good stuff or got serious about it. The early 90's is where most say roids took off in MLB. I bet you would be hard pressed to find anyone who played clean then.

RippedmyFlesh
07-09-2011, 07:28 PM
The thing is, had Bonds not taken steroids, he would have been in the discussion among the all time greats, because he was as complete a player as any in baseball before he started the steroids.

He became 1 dimensional .He was the best at that one though.
I agree if he hadn't he still would have been a 500 homer well rounded player.
Instead of being Willie Mays he wanted to be Hank Aaron.

chiefzilla1501
07-09-2011, 08:11 PM
He may not have ever played clean, but his game changed around '98-'99, so it's probably a pretty safe bet that he played clean his first 7 or 8 years.

Yes, that's true.

And I still think it's an interesting theory that steroids may not enhance performance nearly as much as people think it does. There are a lot of people who think that juiced balls might have more to do with the power hitting of the steroid era than steroids. If that's the case, then all steroids may have done is make Bonds slower--he was not only a power hitter, but also extremely fast.

threebag02
07-09-2011, 08:30 PM
I cannot stand the yankees

GloryDayz
07-09-2011, 09:06 PM
The only thing that sux is now we won't stop hearing about it for 3 weeks!! Ugh! It's cool, but let's just be done with it now. Heck, the Royals scoring 13 is almost as monumental as his 3000!

gblowfish
07-09-2011, 09:35 PM
Die Yankee Scum.

RJ
07-09-2011, 10:20 PM
I really, really hate the Yankees but must confess to a grudging admiration for Jeter. Any baseball fan would love to have him on their own favorite team.

Frazod
07-09-2011, 11:21 PM
Die Yankee Scum.

This.

Garcia Bronco
07-11-2011, 11:11 AM
I'm sure that has nothing to do with the insane amount of talent he's played with in his career. Not every player gets to play with a stacked deck every season. I'm sure he'd have multiple "rings" with the Royals :rolleyes:

Yankees weren't winning again until he showed up.

vailpass
07-11-2011, 11:13 AM
5/5 with an HR for #3k?
Hate if you hate but there is no denying how nails that is.

BigCatDaddy
07-11-2011, 11:15 AM
He's no Cal Ripken.

Pasta Giant Meatball
07-11-2011, 11:16 AM
Yankees weren't winning until he showed up.

....along with 200 million dollars worth of "help"

ChiefsandO'sfan
07-11-2011, 03:17 PM
PriscoCBSPete Prisco

The kid who caught Jeter's ball is a moron. He owes $100,000 in loans and gave it back? What? You are a moron, buddy.

Amnorix
07-11-2011, 03:24 PM
As far as where he ranks as a player: definitely an excellent player, but a shade below Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle. Somebody (I think it was JoPo) tweeted the other day that Jeter should be with those other guys on a Yankee Mount Rushmore. I disagree. Those 4 stand alone.


errr...is this even in doubt?

I think he's a great player and surefire HOFer and all that, but he's not in the same league as the greatest of the greats. Not even close.

Amnorix
07-11-2011, 03:28 PM
I say total runs scored + total rbi is a good value of total worth. Bonds wins.

What? You're relying on other players to help you with both those stats. Babe Ruth on today's Pittsburgh Pirates gets tons of walks, therefore far fewer home runs and far fewer RBIs, and won't score nearly as often because he doesn't have Gehrig behind him.

Your stat reliance selection for determining good players is basically the exact opposite of what you should do.

Amnorix
07-11-2011, 03:30 PM
So heres an age old argument. Whose more valuable? A guy like Jeter with over 3000 hits, but really didnt walk all that much. Or a guy like Bonds, who didnt get 3000 hits but had alot more total bases and walks than Jeter did.

There's no difference between a single and a walk for any practical purpose in terms of evaluating a player.

Total hits is a great number, but if one guy gets 3,000 hits and 0 walks, and another guy has 2,500 hits and 500 walks, assuming the number of doubles, triples and home runs is the same, then they're the same guy.

Amnorix
07-11-2011, 03:34 PM
Yes, that's true.

And I still think it's an interesting theory that steroids may not enhance performance nearly as much as people think it does. There are a lot of people who think that juiced balls might have more to do with the power hitting of the steroid era than steroids. If that's the case, then all steroids may have done is make Bonds slower--he was not only a power hitter, but also extremely fast.

Holy crap. :rolleyes:

MahiMike
07-11-2011, 04:43 PM
3000 hits for a middle infielder is pretty damn impressive...Yankee or not.

This. Stats don't lie.

WV
07-11-2011, 04:56 PM
I wouldn't take anything from him as 3000 hits is nothing to sneeze at and is a huge accomplishment. That said though he's had a long career and probably some of the best hitters in the game protecting him in the lineup. No one ever pitched around Jeter.

Pasta Giant Meatball
07-11-2011, 04:57 PM
This. Stats don't lie.

Not always. The fact he has 5 gold gloves is a crime.