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Deberg_1990
06-23-2011, 08:21 AM
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/112989/brands-disappear-2012-247#mwpphu-container





1. Sony Pictures

Sony has a studio production arm which has nothing to do with its core businesses of consumer electronics and gaming. Sony bought what was Columbia Tri-Star Picture in 1989 for $3.4 billion. This entertainment operation has done poorly recently. Sony's fiscal year ends in March, and for the period, revenue for the group dropped 15% to $7.2 billion and operating income fell by 10% to $466 million. Sony is in trouble. It lost $3.1 billion in its latest fiscal year on revenue of $86.5 billion. Sony's gaming system group is under siege by Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT - News) and Nintendo. Its consumer electronics group faces an overwhelming challenge from Apple. The company's future prospects have been further damaged by the Japan earthquake and the hack of its large PlayStation Network. CEO Howard Stringer is under pressure to do something to increase the value of Sony's shares. The only valuable asset with which he can easily part is Columbia which would attract interest from a number of large media operations. Sony Entertainment will disappear with the sale of its assets.

2. A&W

A&W Restaurants is owned by fast food holding company giant Yum! Brands (NYSE: YUM - News) which has had the firm for sale since January. There have been no buyers. The chain was founded in 1919. The size of the company grew rapidly, and immediately after WWII 450 franchises were opened. The firm pioneered the "drive in" fast food format. A&W began to sell canned versions of its sodas in 1971 ó the part of the business that will survive as a container beverage business which is now owned by Dr. Pepper/Snapple. The A&W Restaurant business is too small to be viable now. It had 322 outlets in the U.S and 317 outside the U.S at the end of last year. All were operated by franchisees. By contrast, Yum!'s flagship KFC had 5,055 stores in the U.S. and 11,798 overseas. Two massive global fast food chains are even larger. Subway has 35,000 locations worldwide, and McDonald's has nearly as many. A&W does not have the ability to market itself against these chains and at least a dozen other fast food operators like Burger King. And, A&W does not have the size to efficiently handle food purchases, logistics, and transportation costs compared to competitors many times as large.

3. Saab

The first Saab car was launched in 1949 by Swedish industrial firm Svenska Aeroplan. The firm produced a series of sedans and coups, the flagship of which was the 900 series, released in 1978. About one million of these would eventually be sold. Saab's engineering reputation and the rise in its international sales attracted GM to buy half the company in 1989 and the balance in 2000. Saab's problem, which grew under the management of the world's No.1 automobile manufacturer, was that it was never more than a niche brand in an industry dominated by very large players such as Ford and Chevrolet. It did not build very inexpensive cars like VW did, or expensive sports cars as Porsche did. Saab's models were, in price and features, up against models from the world's largest car companies that sold hundreds of thousands of units each year. Saab also did not have a wide number of models to suit different budgets and driver tastes. GM decided to jettison the brand in late 2008, and the small company quickly became insolvent. Saab finally found a buyer in high-end car maker Spyker which took control of the company last year. Spyker quickly ran low on money because only 32,000 Saabs were sold in 2010. Spyker turned to Chinese industrial investors for money. Pang Da Automobile agreed to take an equity stake in the company. But, the agreement is not binding, and with a potential of global sales which are still below 50,000 a year based on manufacturing and marketing operations, and demand, Saab is no longer a financially viable brand.

4. American Apparel

The once-hip retailer reached the brink of bankruptcy earlier this year, and there is no indication that it has gained anything more than a little time with its latest financing. It currently trades as a penny stock. The company had three stores and $82 million in revenue in 2003. Those numbers reached 260 stores and $545 million in 2008. For the first quarter of this year, the retailer had net sales for the quarter of $116.1 million, a 4.7% decline over sales of $121.8 million in the same period a year ago. Comparable store sales declined 8% on a constant currency basis. American Apparel posted a net loss for the period of $21 million. Comparable store sales have flattened, which means the firm likely will continue to post losses. American Apparel is also almost certainly under gross margin pressure because of the rise in cotton prices. The retailer raised $14.9 million in April by selling shares at a discount of 43% to a group of private investors led by Canadian financier Michael Serruya and Delavaco Capital. According to Reuters, the 15.8 million shares sold represented 20.3 percent of the company's outstanding stock on March 31. That sum is not nearly enough to keep American Apparel from going the way of Borders. It is a small, under-funded player in a market with very large competitors with healthy balance sheets. It does not help matters that the company's founder and CEO, Dov Charney, has been a defendant in several lawsuits filed by former employees alleging sexual harassment.

5. Sears

The parent of Sears and Kmart ó Sears Holdings ó is in a lot of trouble. Total revenue dropped $341 million to $9.7 billion for the quarter which closed April 30, 2011. The company had a net loss of $170 million. Sears Holdings was created by a merger of the parents of the two chains on March 24, 2005. The operation has been a disaster ever since. The company has tried to run 4,000 stores which operate across the US and Canada. Neither Sears nor Kmart have done well recently, but Sears' domestic locations same store numbers were off 5.2% in the first quarter and Kmart's were down 1.6%. Last year domestic comparable store sales declined 1.6% in the total, with an increase at Kmart of .7% and a decline at Sears Domestic of 3.6%. New CEO Lou D'Ambrosio recently said of the last quarter that, "we also fell short on executing with excellence. We cannot control the weather or economy or government spending. But we can control how we execute and leverage the potent set of assets we have." D'Ambrosio needs to pull a rabbit out of his hat soon. Sharex are down 55% during the last five years. D'Ambrosio's only reasonable solution to the firm's financial problems is to stop supporting two brands which compete with one another and larger rivals such as Walmart (NYSE: WMT - News) and Target (NYSE: TGT - News). The cost to market two brands and maintain stores which overlap one another geographically must be in the hundreds of millions of dollars each year. Employee and supply chain costs are also gigantic. The path D'Ambrosio is likely to take is to consolidate two brand into one ó keeping the better performing Kmart and shuttering Sears.

6. Sony Ericsson

Sony Ericsson was formed by the two large consumer electronics companies to market the handset offerings each had handled separately. The venture started in 2001, before the rise of the smartphone. Early in its history, it was one of the biggest handset manufacturers along with Nokia (NYSE: NOK - News), Samsung, LG, and Motorola. Sales of Sony Ericsson phones were originally helped by the popularity of other Sony portable devices like the Walkman. Sony Ericsson's product development lagged behind those of companies like Apple (NYSE: AAPL - News) and Research In Motion (NASDAQ: RIMM - News) which dominated the high end smartphone industry early. Sony Ericsson also relied on the Symbian operating system which was championed by market leader Nokia, but which it has abandoned in favor of Microsoft's Windows mobile operating system because of license costs and difficulty with programmers. In a period when smartphone sales worldwide are rising in the double digits and sales of the iPhone double year over year, Sony Ericsson's unit sales dropped from 97 million in 2008 to 43 million last year. New competitors like HTC now outsell Sony Ericsson by widening numbers. Sony Ericsson management expects several more quarters of falling sales and the company has laid off thousands of people. There have been rumors, backed by logic, that Sony will take over the operation, rebrand the handsets with its name, and market them in tandem with its PS3 consoles and VAIO PCs.

7. Kellogg's Corn Pops

The cereal business is not what is used to be, at least for products that are not considered "healthy." Among those is Kellogg's Corn Pops ready-to-eat cereal. Sales of the brand dropped 18% over the year that ended in April, down to $74 million. That puts it well behind brands like Cheerios and Frosted Flakes, each which have sales of over $200 million a year. Private label sales have also hurt sales of branded cereals. Revenues in this category were $637 million over the same April-end period. There is also profit margin pressure on Corn Pops because of the sharp increase in corn prices. Kellogg's describes the product as being "crispy, glazed, crunchy, sweet." Corn Pops also contain mono- and diglycerides, used to bind saturated fat, and BHT for freshness, which is also used in embalming fluid. None of these are likely to be what mothers want to serve their children in an age in which a healthy breakfast is more likely to be egg whites and a bowl of fresh fruit.

8. MySpace

MySpace, once the world's largest social network, died a long time ago. It will get buried soon. News Corp (NYSE: NWS - News) bought MySpace and its parent in 2005 for $580 million, which was considered inexpensive at the time based on the web property's size. MySpace held the top spot among social networks based on visitors from mid-2006 until mid-2008, according to several online research services. It was overtaken by Facebook at that point. Facebook has 700 million members worldwide now and recently passed Yahoo! (NYSE: YHOO - News) as the largest website for display advertising based on revenue. News Corp was able to get an exclusive advertising deal worth $900 million shortly after it bought the property, but that was its sales high-water mark. Its audience is currently estimated to be less that 20 million visitors in the US. Why did MySpace fall so far behind Facebook? No one knows for certain. It may be that Facebook had more attractive features for people who wanted to share their identities online. It may have been that it appealed to a younger audience which tends to spend more time online. News Corp announced in February that it would sell MySpace. There were no serious bids. Rumors surfaced recently that a buyer may take the website for $100 million. The brand is worth little if anything. A buyer is likely to kill the name and fold the subscriber base into another brand. News Corp has hinted it will close MySpace if it does not find a buyer.

9. Soap Opera Digest

The magazine's future has been ruined by two trends. The first is the number of cancellations of soap operas. Long-lived shows which include "All My Children" and "One Life to Live" have been canceled and replaced by talk shows, which are less expensive to air. The other insurmountable challenge is the wide availability of details on soap operas online. Some of the shows even have their own fan sites. News about the industry, in other words, is now distributed and no longer in one place. Soap Opera Digest's first quarter advertising pages fell 21% in the first quarter and revenue was down 18% to $4 million. In 2000, the magazine's circulation was in excess of 1.1 million readers. By 2005 it fell below 500,000 where it has remained for the last 5 years. Source Interlink Media, the magazine's parent, which also owns automotive, truck, and motorcycle publications, has little reason to support a product based on a dying industry.

10. Nokia

Nokia is dead. Shareholders are just waiting for an undertaker. The world's largest handset company has one asset. Nokia sold 25% of the global total of 428 million units sold in the first quarter. Its problem is that in the industry the company is viewed as a falling knife. Its market share in the same quarter of 2010 was nearly 31%. The arguments that Nokia will not stay independent are numerous. It has a very modest presence in the rapidly growing smartphone industry which is dominated by Apple, Research In Motion's Blackberry, HTC, and Samsung. Nokia runs the outdated Symbian operating system and is in the process of changing to Microsoft's Windows mobile OS, which has a tiny share of the market.

Nokia would be an attractive takeover target to a large extent because the cost to "buy" 25% of the global handset market would only be $22 billion based on Nokia's current market cap. Obviously, a buyer would need to pay a premium, but even $30 billion is within reach of several companies. Potential buyers would start with HTC, the fourth largest smartphone maker in the world. Its sales have doubled in both the last quarter and the last year. HTC will sell as many as 80 million handsets in 2011. The Taiwan-based company's challenge would be whether it could finance such a large deal. The other three likely bidders do not have that problem. Microsoft, which is Nokia's primary software partner, could easily buy the company and is often mentioned as a suitor. The world's largest software company recently moved further into the telecom industry though its purchase of VoIP giant Skype, which has 170 million active customers. Two other large firms have many reasons to buy Nokia. Samsung, part of one of the largest conglomerates in Korea, has publicly set a goal to be the No.1 handset company in the world by 2014. The parent company is the largest in South Korea with revenue in 2010 of $134 billion. A buyout of Nokia would launch Samsung into the position as the world's handset leader. LG Electronics, the 7th largest company in South Korea, with sales of $48 billion, is by most measures the third largest smartphone company. It has the scale and balance sheet to takeover Nokia. The only question about the Finland-based company is whether a buyer would maintain the Microsoft relationship or change to the popular Android OS to power Nokia phones.

Alton deFlat
06-23-2011, 08:44 AM
7. Kellogg's Corn Pops
The cereal business is not what is used to be, at least for products that are not considered "healthy." Among those is Kellogg's Corn Pops ready-to-eat cereal. Sales of the brand dropped 18% over the year that ended in April, down to $74 million. That puts it well behind brands like Cheerios and Frosted Flakes, each which have sales of over $200 million a year. Private label sales have also hurt sales of branded cereals. Revenues in this category were $637 million over the same April-end period. There is also profit margin pressure on Corn Pops because of the sharp increase in corn prices. Kellogg's describes the product as being "crispy, glazed, crunchy, sweet." Corn Pops also contain mono- and diglycerides, used to bind saturated fat, and BHT for freshness, which is also used in embalming fluid. None of these are likely to be what mothers want to serve their children in an age in which a healthy breakfast is more likely to be egg whites and a bowl of fresh fruit.



Damn, I used to like Corn Pops. I might have to go out and get a box, just for old times sake.

blaise
06-23-2011, 08:47 AM
Corn Pops are pretty good. The one cereal they messed up was Honeycombs when they changed the recipe to the plasticy crap.

The only one I would be sad to see go would be Sears. But they've been marketing themselves poorly for years and they'll never get it, it seems.

Okie_Apparition
06-23-2011, 08:48 AM
Sears is dying yet husky pants are much in need. What a **** up

mlyonsd
06-23-2011, 08:53 AM
Back in the 60's pulling into A&W in our Willys for a frosty mug of root beer was one of the biggest treats of the summer.

Okie_Apparition
06-23-2011, 08:58 AM
In Mid-Mo, I think it went: A&W..lull..Dog-n-Suds...lull.....Sonic

BigMeatballDave
06-23-2011, 09:05 AM
I haven't used MySpace since 2008.

loochy
06-23-2011, 09:09 AM
I haven't used MySpace since 2008.

Why did myspace fail? I liked it better because it was much more flexible and you could do more, like use html code and stuff.

Pestilence
06-23-2011, 09:10 AM
AW&W was good........when I was like 6.

Pestilence
06-23-2011, 09:11 AM
Why did myspace fail? I liked it better because it was much more flexible and you could do more, like use html code and stuff.

That was the fucking problem. You would go look at a friends page and their page would be full of stupid bling gifs. I had a fast ass internet connection and it would still take minutes to load the fucking thing.

sedated
06-23-2011, 09:22 AM
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/112989/brands-disappear-2012-247#mwpphu-container
2. A&W

The A&W Restaurant business is too small to be viable now . . . A&W does not have the ability to market itself against these chains and at least a dozen other fast food operators like Burger King. And, A&W does not have the size to efficiently handle food purchases, logistics, and transportation costs compared to competitors many times as large.

3. Saab
it was never more than a niche brand in an industry dominated by very large players such as Ford and Chevrolet.

4. American Apparel
It is a small, under-funded player in a market with very large competitors with healthy balance sheets.

5. Sears
compete with one another and larger rivals such as Walmart (NYSE: WMT - News) and Target (NYSE: TGT - News).


In other words, you can’t afford to complete with those bigger than you. Capitalism at work, folks.

BigMeatballDave
06-23-2011, 09:24 AM
That was the fucking problem. You would go look at a friends page and their page would be full of stupid bling gifs. I had a fast ass internet connection and it would still take minutes to load the fucking thing.I Fucking hated that shit.

Dave Lane
06-23-2011, 09:31 AM
In other words, you canít afford to complete with those bigger than you. Capitalism at work, folks.

Corporate evolution...

Demonpenz
06-23-2011, 09:40 AM
Myspace died because the Mavis-type people started to use Facebook an the Mavis-power-type people + girls that are attractive. Where they go people follow.

Brock
06-23-2011, 09:48 AM
Why did myspace fail? I liked it better because it was much more flexible and you could do more, like use html code and stuff.

Giving people more freedom to create horrible, hideous pages that made normal people wish they were blind.

MOhillbilly
06-23-2011, 09:52 AM
the old A&W on the hwy in ES was great in the late 70s early 80s.

edit- as was the a&w at the fair grounds. The jugs they started sellin after a&w closed shop arent the same.

great way to sneak booze in though.

Pants
06-23-2011, 09:55 AM
Ummm, news flash: All brands will disappear in 2012. Idiot writer.

HotRoute
06-23-2011, 10:16 AM
Myspace had some great features but was not overall user friendly. plus they didnt have a movie about it with justin timberlake, so fail

Detoxing
06-23-2011, 10:19 AM
Hooray for the Death of Corn Pops. I hated that cereal. Talk about boring...

Detoxing
06-23-2011, 10:20 AM
Ummm, news flash: All brands will disappear in 2012. Idiot writer.

This

sedated
06-23-2011, 10:25 AM
Corporate evolution...

you say that like its a good thing.

100 years from now the only jobs available in the US will be at Wal-Mart.

Saul Good
06-23-2011, 10:39 AM
you say that like its a good thing.

100 years from now the only jobs available in the US will be at Wal-Mart.

Poor little Sears. They were just too small to compete with big companies.

MIAdragon
06-23-2011, 11:08 AM
Back in the 60's pulling into A&W in our Willys for a frosty mug of root beer was one of the biggest treats of the summer.

There is one just outside Vegas that I HAVE to go to every time in in town. Love that shit.

headsnap
06-23-2011, 11:12 AM
MySpace failed because it was much more flexible and you could do more, like use html code and stuff.

fyp

Just Passin' By
06-23-2011, 11:25 AM
In other words, you canít afford to complete with those bigger than you. Capitalism at work, folks.

Big companies started out as small companies, and often had to compete with companies that were bigger than they were.

DJ's left nut
06-23-2011, 11:28 AM
In other words, you canít afford to complete with those bigger than you. Capitalism at work, folks.

Saab makes shitty cars, Sears was bigger than its competitors before its competitors did a better job than it, A&W was bigger and better than its competitors that are now bigger than it. American Apparel - well they're just shit.

Capitalism at its finest, indeed. These were companies that had significant advantages over their rivals in many instances. And they squandered that advantage, let their rivals overtake them, and will now be gone soon.

Saulbadguy
06-23-2011, 11:32 AM
Sony is just routinely out of touch with its western consumer base. A&W sucked. MySpace sucked.

I haven't had Corn Pops in years, but it's comforting to know I can still purchase them. I'm sure i'll miss them if they disappeared.

MahiMike
06-23-2011, 11:39 AM
The 2 I don't get are Sears and Nokia. Sure, buying KMart messed them up but $9.7B in 1 qtr is a lot of sales.

Nokia was #1 for awhile. I used to buy their phones exclusively. I really liked them.

ClevelandBronco
06-23-2011, 11:39 AM
3. Saab

What will douchebags who think they're the only driver on the road drive?

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-23-2011, 11:41 AM
Back in the 60's pulling into A&W in our Willys for a frosty mug of root beer was one of the biggest treats of the summer.

A&W will be missed.

bowener
06-23-2011, 11:53 AM
That was the fucking problem. You would go look at a friends page and their page would be full of stupid bling gifs. I had a fast ass internet connection and it would still take minutes to load the fucking thing.

This.

Shit got fucking annoying. Too much customization can be a bad thing.

Hydrae
06-23-2011, 11:55 AM
What will douchebags who think they're the only driver on the road drive?

BMW's

bowener
06-23-2011, 11:56 AM
you say that like its a good thing.

100 years from now the only jobs available in the US will be at Wal-Mart/Google/Microsoft.

Never fear though, we can all join the rebel faction Apple to try and sabotage our Corp. overlords from underground!

Deberg_1990
06-23-2011, 11:57 AM
Sony is just routinely out of touch with its western consumer base.

Sony is not going anywhere.....They are talking about Sony Pictures.

Barret
06-23-2011, 11:57 AM
I used to work for Sears and can tell you why they are in the Dumps. Most Sears locations had Prime spots in most American Malls that are around the country. So how can they fail??

1: If you ever walk into a Sears it looks like 1960's or 1970's styling. Their mall locations never updated the style and even if they did let them fall into disrepair with big water stains on ceiling tiles or nasty looking vents. People don't want to shop in a store that looks like ass

2: I worked electronics and in the bigger home appliance section. People would come in and price shop Sears and then note they could get the same or better product down the street at one of the following stores: Lowes, Best buy, Home Depot, Mom and Pop local electronics store.

2a: The reason is Sears got used to the Kenmore and Craftsman name brands and were under the impression they could charge for "Higher Quality". Other brands started to catch up and surpass the Sears name brands but Sears thought their "shit" didn't stink and kept prices higher.

3: When we would finally get a sucker...err I mean a customer to come in and want to buy something, well it would never be in stock or it was on back order for a couple of weeks. Customer says "well hell I can go down the street and pick it up today or have it delivered TODAY"

3a: Specifically the store I worked at had no inventory process that told employees on the floor what was truly available in the back. So I can talk up the $2k stainless steel refrigerator and show it supposedly in stock and then go to the back and notice that it actually isn't there and now I have to deal with a pissy customer.

3b: Notice how I said in the main #3 about delivery. Yea good luck getting it delivered that day or even that week. This coupled with the fact of a delivery / product removal fee had customers wonder why they came into Sears in the first place.

4: Lackluster employees. Yes I was one of them in this group. Why I was in this group was that every month I worked there, commission rates were cut back and back until you aren't get anything even if you sell the top end pieces of equipment. If you were pure commission you work on a payback plan. Meaning if you are scheduled to make say $500 for the week due to how many hours you worked then you got that if you didnt make over that in commission. Next week comes along and you are supposed to make $500 and you make $800. Well wait a sec, you need to pay back the money that you didn't make from last week.

So couple lack of sales due to people not wanting to pay the inflated prices and lack of commission due to Sears tanking and you were in "the hole" almost every week.

Needless to say, I don't work there anymore.

Infidel Goat
06-23-2011, 11:57 AM
I'll be surprised if Sears isn't still around...

loochy
06-23-2011, 11:59 AM
What will douchebags who think they're the only driver on the road drive?

A hick truck with giant wheels, no muffler, and cow poop smeared all over the side

BigRichard
06-23-2011, 12:00 PM
Why is Blockbuster not on this list?

loochy
06-23-2011, 12:03 PM
Why is Blockbuster not on this list?

Because they are already done aren't they? All of the blockbusters around here closed a few months ago.

Hydrae
06-23-2011, 12:07 PM
Because they are already done aren't they? All of the blockbusters around here closed a few months ago.

I have 2 still open near me, the third closed last year.

listopencil
06-23-2011, 12:10 PM
That was the ****ing problem. You would go look at a friends page and their page would be full of stupid bling gifs. I had a fast ass internet connection and it would still take minutes to load the ****ing thing.


Yep, that was it. I had an add-on for Greasemonkey that removed all of the customization when I would go to people's MySpace pages. It worked pretty well. In fact it made MySpace pages look exactly like...Facebook. Strange, huh? Now I don't need the add-on because my family switched over to Facebook. It's great to see pics or read comments from my family members that are literally spread all over the world.

headsnap
06-23-2011, 12:26 PM
1: If you ever walk into a Sears it looks like 1960's or 1970's styling. Their mall locations never updated the style and even if they did let them fall into disrepair with big water stains on ceiling tiles or nasty looking vents. People don't want to shop in a store that looks like ass


this


I walk into the Sears here in the mall in Louisville, KY and it looks EXACTLY like the Sears at Metcalf South Mall did in 1978!!!

Rausch
06-23-2011, 12:33 PM
This.

Shit got ****ing annoying. Too much customization can be a bad thing.

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Brock
06-23-2011, 12:45 PM
Blockbuster may be closing their storefronts, but they're popping up with redbox style kiosks.

Rausch
06-23-2011, 12:51 PM
Blockbuster may be closing their storefronts, but they're popping up with redbox style kiosks.

I'm sure 2 vending machines outside a Wal-Mart will make up for multiple stores per-berg closing...

88TG88
06-23-2011, 01:01 PM
I cant imagine anyone in any era buying soap opera digest. Wouldnt people just read it at the check out line then put it back ?

Brock
06-23-2011, 01:03 PM
I'm sure 2 vending machines outside a Wal-Mart will make up for multiple stores per-berg closing...

They also have online rentals. Just pointing out that Blockbuster isn't a brand that is going away, at least not right away.

Pestilence
06-23-2011, 01:04 PM
I'm sure 2 vending machines outside a Wal-Mart will make up for multiple stores per-berg closing...

I haven't seen them together in the same location yet.

Just Passin' By
06-23-2011, 01:38 PM
Since Saab is on this list, this story seems appropriate:

Saab, the Swedish car company renowned for its sometimes quirky designs, moved closer to bankruptcy Thursday after it conceded that it didn't have any money to pay employees' wages.

After months of production stoppages and problems with paying suppliers, Saab said the situation is so dire that it won't be able to pay its 3,700 employees, raising doubts over how long the brand can survive.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110623/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_sweden_saab

salame
06-23-2011, 01:54 PM
http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2009/12/09/14/41/2004_saab_9-3_aero-pic-1073149647869688221.jpeg


in 2004 I REALLY wanted one of these

Chocolate Hog
06-23-2011, 01:59 PM
Sears was one of the poorest ran companies I had ever worked for but it was a great job. Where else could you show up 2 hrs late leave an hour early and take breaks every 10 minutes and not get fired?

loochy
06-23-2011, 02:02 PM
http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2009/12/09/14/41/2004_saab_9-3_aero-pic-1073149647869688221.jpeg


in 2004 I REALLY wanted one of these

It's what I've got...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/erclsr/IMAG0017.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/erclsr/car%20march%202011/Side4.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/erclsr/car%20march%202011/Front1.jpg

Dartgod
06-23-2011, 02:09 PM
5. Sears

I better get all my cracked sockets and stripped ratchets replaced before they go under.

Do they even have lifetime warranty on their tools anymore?

DMAC
06-23-2011, 02:12 PM
Burger King closed a few locations around here.

Chief Chief
06-23-2011, 02:45 PM
Not Soap Opera Digest: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....!!!

Molitoth
06-23-2011, 02:48 PM
I dig your car loochy. Here's mine.
Eff all you Saab haters.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1915/4301/29787150061_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1915/4301/29787150088_large.jpg

MOhillbilly
06-23-2011, 02:48 PM
Burger King closed a few locations around here.

i wish theyd close the whole fuckin strip on north kearney.

ClevelandBronco
06-23-2011, 02:51 PM
I dig your car loochy. Here's mine.
Eff all you Saab haters.

You have it all wrong. I don't hate Saabs. I hate the douchebags who own Saabs.

Pants
06-23-2011, 02:52 PM
They also have online rentals. Just pointing out that Blockbuster isn't a brand that is going away, at least not right away.

I'm pretty sure some stores are going to remain open as well.

loochy
06-23-2011, 03:15 PM
You have it all wrong. I don't hate Saabs. I hate the douchebags who own Saabs.

Where did you get this saab=douchebag thing? Most of the owners I've encountered are anything but that. Most are normal, sensible people. I haven't seen the overcompensators that the large truck crowd, the showoff douchebags like the BMW crowd has, or the ricer crowd like Hondas have.

Detoxing
06-23-2011, 03:17 PM
It's what I've got...

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/erclsr/IMAG0017.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/erclsr/car%20march%202011/Side4.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/erclsr/car%20march%202011/Front1.jpg

Everytime you post this I always mean to ask you; How did you get Euro plates on ur car? You are living in the states right?

Detoxing
06-23-2011, 03:18 PM
I dig your car loochy. Here's mine.
Eff all you Saab haters.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1915/4301/29787150061_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1915/4301/29787150088_large.jpg

Fuck it. I think ima look into a Saab for my 2nd ride.

DMAC
06-23-2011, 03:18 PM
i wish theyd close the whole fuckin strip on north kearney.

Fast food on the north side is equivalent to a supermarket. It's where people get their groceries for the night.

loochy
06-23-2011, 03:19 PM
Everytime you post this I always mean to ask you; How did you get Euro plates on ur car? You are living in the states right?

I just ordered from http://www.licenseplates.tv/ and had them put my Texas license number on the new plates. :thumb:

It was only $40.

loochy
06-23-2011, 03:21 PM
Fuck it. I think ima look into a Saab for my 2nd ride.

You should realize that we both have done a lot of aftermarket stuff to our cars though.

DMAC
06-23-2011, 03:22 PM
I just saw a drunk driver try to hit a group of kids riding their bikes...

License plate number was MO:

MA7 X7C

grob

loochy
06-23-2011, 03:23 PM
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1915/4301/29787150088_large.jpg

Nice wheels and brakes. :thumb:
I've got Modas too. I considered the ones you have, but went with the MD7s.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/erclsr/car%20march%202011/WheelFront.jpg

Detoxing
06-23-2011, 03:23 PM
You should realize that we both have done a lot of aftermarket stuff to our cars though.

Yeah, noticed that. WTF is the difference between the 9-3 Aero and the 9-3 Linear?

loochy
06-23-2011, 03:25 PM
I just saw a drunk driver try to hit a group of kids riding their bikes...

License plate number was MO:

MA7 X7C

grob

lolwut?

Did you call the cops?

loochy
06-23-2011, 03:26 PM
Yeah, noticed that. WTF is the difference between the 9-3 Aero and the 9-3 Linear?

It depends on what model year you are talking about, but in general the Aero has:

bigger wheels
bigger brakes
sport suspension
body kit
spoiler
bigger engine
loaded options

Lzen
06-23-2011, 03:31 PM
I dig your car loochy. Here's mine.
Eff all you Saab haters.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1915/4301/29787150061_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1915/4301/29787150088_large.jpg

I am no Saab fanboy, but I gotta admit that is a pretty sweet looking ride.

MOhillbilly
06-23-2011, 03:34 PM
Fast food on the north side is equivalent to a supermarket. It's where people get their groceries for the night.

no lie. that entire strech stinks like hog slop. HTF thatd make people wanna stop and eat is beyond me.

I lament for grand fortuna.

DMAC
06-23-2011, 03:42 PM
lolwut?

Did you call the cops?

No. Looked like a Saab.

Fish
06-23-2011, 04:01 PM
Where did you get this saab=douchebag thing? Most of the owners I've encountered are anything but that. Most are normal, sensible people. I haven't seen the overcompensators that the large truck crowd, the showoff douchebags like the BMW crowd has, or the ricer crowd like Hondas have.

How about American posers with European plates on their cars?

loochy
06-23-2011, 04:03 PM
How about American posers with European plates on their cars?

swedish car = swedish plate

Pants
06-23-2011, 04:05 PM
It depends on what model year you are talking about, but in general the Aero has:

bigger wheels
bigger brakes
sport suspension
body kit
spoiler
bigger engine
loaded options

I always thought Aero meant the SAAB was turbo charged. Huh.

loochy
06-23-2011, 04:09 PM
I always thought Aero meant the SAAB was turbo charged. Huh.

Well all of the more recent models have turbos. The Aeros have bigger turbos and 07,08,and 09 Aeros have a turbo 2.8 v6 instead of a 2.0 4

KCtotheSB
06-23-2011, 04:25 PM
MySpace will merge into Facebook.

FaceSpace.

Fish
06-23-2011, 04:35 PM
swedish car = swedish plate

Uhh huh.... GM did well putting together that Swedish car....

Valiant
06-23-2011, 05:04 PM
Sears Grande is closing stores now it seems.. Just picked up some great deals on 360 games and accessories and socks.. Always need socks..

loochy
06-23-2011, 05:16 PM
Uhh huh.... GM did well putting together that Swedish car....

GM owned. It was still built at the same factory in Trollhattan as before.

Detoxing
06-23-2011, 05:17 PM
Sears Grande is closing stores now it seems.. Just picked up some great deals on 360 games and accessories and socks.. Always need socks..

Can never have too many socks. Especially if you jizz in them all the time.