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HonestChieffan
06-24-2011, 09:03 PM
(ABC News) – President Obama today apologized to the family of a Medal of Honor recipient whom he erroneously said was still alive.

On Thursday at Fort Drum, the president told troops from the 10th Mountain Division that he previously “had the great honor of seeing some of you because a comrade of yours, Jared Monti, was the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honor to who actually came back and wasn’t receiving it posthumously.”

Wrong. Sgt. 1st Class Jared Monti was actually killed in Afghanistan on June 21, 2006. In September 2009, President Obama awarded him the Medal of Honor posthumously.

On his Facebook page this evening, Monti’s father, Paul, posted: “FYI- President Barack Obama telephoned me personally this afternoon to apologize for his error in his speech to the 10th mountain division re: Jared’s medal ceremony. Apology accepted.”

The Mad Crapper
06-24-2011, 09:06 PM
Yeah, I've been hearing about this all day. The guy is a disgrace. Just a complete, atrocious, moonbat made disaster.

Phobia
06-24-2011, 09:52 PM
I'm no Obama fan but it's easy to confuse a name. The guy must meet hundreds of people a week and signs dozens of medal citations a month. Granted, the CMH is pretty deal but I can see the mistake.

Amnorix
06-24-2011, 09:57 PM
I'm no Obama fan but it's easy to confuse a name. The guy must meet hundreds of people a week and signs dozens of medal citations a month. Granted, the CMH is pretty deal but I can see the mistake.

There's no way the Prez. can remember this level of detail. It's most likely a staff screw up. But whatever, the Republicans will have their fun for a couple days over it and pretend they REALLY care about this guy's family being insulted, etc. (when they already accepted the apology). :shrug:

chiefforlife
06-24-2011, 10:06 PM
HCF, you are something else. You really think Obama himself sorted through this info himself and was so incompetent that he read, the guy is dead but I will say he is alive?
I am sorry but you are the one who has screwed up, yet again.

SNR
06-24-2011, 10:12 PM
This is something that everybody would do at least once if they were even in the oval office. It's unavoidable. Obama was just unlucky that he happened to mix up a Medal of Honor recipient.

HonestChieffan
06-24-2011, 10:16 PM
The Congressional Medal of Honor. The guy died. And you people can excuse Obama for a complete and total clusterfuck?

Sweet Jesus. Details? Do you understand the detail required to propose and then me approved for the CM of Honor? Shameful. He should stick to golf and fundraising.

(CBN) — During his remarks to troops at Fort Drum today, the President was reminiscing about the times he has spent with the US Army’s 10th Mountain Division, when he got something wrong.

“Throughout my service, first as a senator and then as a presidential candidate and then as a President, I’ve always run into you guys. And for some reason it’s always in some rough spots.

First time I saw 10th Mountain Division, you guys were in southern Iraq. When I went back to visit Afghanistan, you guys were the first ones there. I had the great honor of seeing some of you because a comrade of yours, Jared Monti, was the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honor to who actually came back and wasn’t receiving it posthumously.”

The problem is, Jared Monti was killed in action in Afghanistan, on June 21, 2006. He was awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously, September 17, 2009. President Obama handed the framed medal to his parents, Paul and Janet Monti. He and the First Lady comforted them in the Oval Office following the ceremony.

I contacted the White House to see what happened. I’m told the President didn’t have prepared remarks.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said, “At Fort Drum, the President misspoke when discussing the first Medal of Honor he presented posthumously to Jared Monti, who was a member of the 10th Mountain Division. The President paid tribute to Monti in his remarks to troops in Afghanistan in March 2010. Last year, the President presented the Medal of Honor to Salvatore Giunta, who was the first living recipient of the Medal who served in Afghanistan.”

The gaffe comes one day after the President announced his plan to bring troops home from Afghanistan at a faster pace. He deliberately spoke at Fort Drum because of the 10th Mountain Division’s multiple deployments to Afghanistan.

DJ's left nut
06-24-2011, 10:17 PM
I'm no Obama fan but it's easy to confuse a name. The guy must meet hundreds of people a week and signs dozens of medal citations a month. Granted, the CMH is pretty deal but I can see the mistake.

Oh come on.

The CMH is our nation's highest honor; doubly so when it's given posthumously.

And that asshole, our commander in chief, couldn't be bothered to get the names straight before he tells some windy story that someone else wrote for him?

Sorry, but it's not okay for our commander in chief to not get the names of CMH winners straight. It shows a profound lack of respect for the men he purports to be 'honoring' and exposes him for the fraudulent opportunist he truly is.

bowener
06-24-2011, 10:18 PM
ONOOOOEESS!!!!

WE ARE TEH DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

Get the fuck over it. The family has.

Amnorix
06-24-2011, 10:22 PM
Oh come on.

The CMH is our nation's highest honor; doubly so when it's given posthumously.

And that asshole, our commander in chief, couldn't be bothered to get the names straight before he tells some windy story that someone else wrote for him?

Sorry, but it's not okay for our commander in chief to not get the names of CMH winners straight. It shows a profound lack of respect for the men he purports to be 'honoring' and exposes him for the fraudulent opportunist he truly is.


Seriously, I wouldn't even make an issue of this even if a Republican made this error. It's not malicious. It's not something the President would personally do -- he'd rely on staff to come up with the name etc.

But, like I said, of course you'll pretend to be mortally offended. Heck, maybe you're weird enough to truly be mortally offended. But 95% of the US either will never hear of this issue, or won't give a flying **** about it becuase it's not exactly part of the job description to run around doing fact-checks all day.

DJ's left nut
06-24-2011, 10:26 PM
There's no way the Prez. can remember this level of detail. It's most likely a staff screw up. But whatever, the Republicans will have their fun for a couple days over it and pretend they REALLY care about this guy's family being insulted, etc. (when they already accepted the apology). :shrug:

This level of detail?

There have been EIGHT of them issued in total for the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts.

Eight.

Guinta is the first Medal of Honor winner to be given one while alive since Vietnam.

He wasn't asked to remember the man's birthday. He wasn't asked to remember his favorite color.

Our Commander in Chief was asked to remember his name.

You're right, that's completely unreasonable; asking a purported genius and the leader of our military to remember 1 name out of 8 who just so happens to be the only person to accomplish this feat in nearly 40 years.

Again - it's not the slip that is disconcerting, but what it suggests.

DJ's left nut
06-24-2011, 10:29 PM
Seriously, I wouldn't even make an issue of this even if a Republican made this error. It's not malicious. It's not something the President would personally do -- he'd rely on staff to come up with the name etc.

But, like I said, of course you'll pretend to be mortally offended. Heck, maybe you're weird enough to truly be mortally offended. But 95% of the US either will never hear of this issue, or won't give a flying **** about it becuase it's not exactly part of the job description to run around doing fact-checks all day.

Nonsense. Had Bush done this, the MSM would've run with it for days. Hell, had Palin done it we'd get another 500 page thread about it.

This isn't some Senator or governor, it's the President - our commander in chief and the leader of our armed forces. You're telling me its too much to ask for him to remember 8 names? Or perhaps the name of the only living Medal of Honor recipient since Vietnam?

Oh, and if he's going to tell these guys how he much he personally recalls and cherishes the memory of a day's events, he'd better fucking fact check said events.

Amnorix
06-24-2011, 10:58 PM
Nonsense. Had Bush done this, the MSM would've run with it for days. Hell, had Palin done it we'd get another 500 page thread about it.

This isn't some Senator or governor, it's the President - our commander in chief and the leader of our armed forces. You're telling me its too much to ask for him to remember 8 names? Or perhaps the name of the only living Medal of Honor recipient since Vietnam?

Oh, and if he's going to tell these guys how he much he personally recalls and cherishes the memory of a day's events, he'd better fucking fact check said events.

Yes, yes, your false sense of outrage is duly noted. He's lost your vote forever. It's a real shame.

Now can we deal with some important issues like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, the economy, the deficit, the debt, etc. ad infinitum...?

DJ's left nut
06-24-2011, 11:24 PM
Yes, yes, your false sense of outrage is duly noted. He's lost your vote forever. It's a real shame.

Now can we deal with some important issues like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, the economy, the deficit, the debt, etc. ad infinitum...?

Since when has he shown an ability to deal with any of those important issues effectively? And if you don't think the soldiers he purports to lead aren't upset by this, I'd suggest you take a look at the chat boards frequented by same. Those folks expected to actually do the leg work in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya are not pleased by their CiC's apparent ambivalence towards the highest honor he can bestow.

Then again, if he can't be expected to remember 1 of 8 names correctly before waxing poetic about how touched he was by an event, I'm not sure why I should expect him to effectively manage Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, the economy, etc... I'm heartened to see that you've at least abandoned your "Well we can't expect him to remember that level of detail" argument now that you've been spoon-fed the raw numbers. Instead you'll turn to the standard liberal saw "Oh c'mon, that doesn't really matter; you just hate the guy..."

If you don't think this speaks directly to Obama's arrogance and his lack of respect for the military, there's not a lot I can do about it. I don't believe for a minute that a POTUS who saw the CiC gig as more than a side job would have made this mistake.

Bwana
06-24-2011, 11:27 PM
Evidently the infomation wasn't on a teleprompter? :shrug:

DJ's left nut
06-24-2011, 11:30 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/11/obama-on-medal-of-honor-winner-i-really-like-this-guy/1

"Now, I'm going to go off-script here for a second and just say I really like this guy," Obama said at an East Room ceremony for Army Staff Sgt. Salvatore Giunta. "When you meet Sal and you meet his family, you are just absolutely convinced that this is what America is all about. And it just makes you proud."

Again - the only living medal of honor winner since Vietnam. One who Obama is evidently all chummy with when it comes time for a pithy quote.

And a guy who's name Obama can't be bothered to remember.

Just admit that he's a jackass and move along. The whole damn thing is a dog and pony show to him. He clearly doesn't give a rip about the award or what it symbolized. He damn sure didn't give a shit about "Sal and his family" when he was calling him by a different name a mere 9 months later.

It's the least of his failures, yet it somehow does the best job of encapsulating what a pathetic fraud this guy is.

Frankie
06-24-2011, 11:47 PM
I'm no Obama fan but it's easy to confuse a name. The guy must meet hundreds of people a week and signs dozens of medal citations a month. Granted, the CMH is pretty deal but I can see the mistake.

There's no way the Prez. can remember this level of detail. It's most likely a staff screw up. But whatever, the Republicans will have their fun for a couple days over it and pretend they REALLY care about this guy's family being insulted, etc. (when they already accepted the apology). :shrug:

B,... b,... but the POTUS is a POS and a disgrace. HonestChieffan and Sad Crap told us so. :shake:

go bowe
06-24-2011, 11:53 PM
and a communist who hates america and wants us to go bankrupt...

don't forget that...

PornChief
06-25-2011, 01:14 AM
if Bush had done it, I would have heard about it long before I checked out this forum, which appears to be the only place I've seen it mentioned.

HonestChieffan
06-25-2011, 07:11 AM
If he has no more attention to detail than this it does explain why his administration is so totally screwed up.

Frankie
06-25-2011, 10:17 AM
if Bush had done it, I would have heard about it long before I checked out this forum, which appears to be the only place I've seen it mentioned.

Bush routinely had brain farts and on common stuff than this. He earned all the ridicule worldwide.

LiveSteam
06-25-2011, 11:29 AM
Bush routinely had brain farts and on common stuff than this. He earned all the ridicule worldwide.


Three shitty, shameful presidents in a row. Sad.

stevieray
06-25-2011, 11:59 AM
it's funny watching the hypocrits marginalize his mistakes.

Captain Obvious
06-25-2011, 12:26 PM
"On his Facebook page this evening, Monti’s father, Paul, posted: “FYI- President Barack Obama telephoned me personally this afternoon to apologize for his error in his speech to the 10th mountain division re: Jared’s medal ceremony. Apology accepted.”

The only thing that matters.

alnorth
06-25-2011, 12:38 PM
I will never cease to be amazed at the silly irrelevant gotcha crap that both parties jump on when the president or congress is controlled by the other party. It almost feels like a pack of nerds raging at a rival nerd who is wrong about some fine detail in star wars canon.

RedNeckRaider
06-25-2011, 12:39 PM
People can spin this all they want but the fact is it is very sad. A man of honor went to battle for this man and his actions deserve the highest metal awarded. This shitbag had no idea who he was. This was not a mistake he did not know if he was dead or alive and that is sad~

alnorth
06-25-2011, 12:45 PM
People can spin this all they want but the fact is it is very sad. A man of honor went to battle for this man and his actions deserve the highest metal awarded. This shitbag had no idea who he was. This was not a mistake he did not know if he was dead or alive and that is sad~

False sense of politically-motivated nerd rage noted.

This is what I see when I read crap like this:

What? Obama is trying to scientifically explain the force with this midi-chlorian lifeform nonsense? How dare he, that is just stupid and makes no sense at all given the previous books! Rabble Rabble Rabble *munch on cheetos* Rabble Rabble!

Who cares?

He screwed up a name, and promptly apologized. There is no reason for you to be, in any way at all, upset about this other than political partisan hackery.

RedNeckRaider
06-25-2011, 01:22 PM
False sense of politically-motivated nerd rage noted.

This is what I see when I read crap like this:

What? Obama is trying to scientifically explain the force with this midi-chlorian lifeform nonsense? How dare he, that is just stupid and makes no sense at all given the previous books! Rabble Rabble Rabble *munch on cheetos* Rabble Rabble!

Who cares?

He screwed up a name, and promptly apologized. There is no reason for you to be, in any way at all, upset about this other than political partisan hackery.

You can kiss my ass scooter there ain't that many men who have earned that metal and every one of them has earned enough respect that the president should know something about them when speaking about them~

go bowe
06-25-2011, 01:37 PM
You can kiss my ass scooter there ain't that many men who have earned that metal and every one of them has earned enough respect that the president should know something about them when speaking about them~

scooter?

that's a strange name for a horse...

vailpass
06-25-2011, 02:23 PM
False sense of politically-motivated nerd rage noted.

This is what I see when I read crap like this:

What? Obama is trying to scientifically explain the force with this midi-chlorian lifeform nonsense? How dare he, that is just stupid and makes no sense at all given the previous books! Rabble Rabble Rabble *munch on cheetos* Rabble Rabble!

Who cares?

He screwed up a name, and promptly apologized. There is no reason for you to be, in any way at all, upset about this other than political partisan hackery.

You don't have any idea what you are saying or to whom you are saying it.
Shut. the. fuck. up.
Punk.

Saul Good
06-25-2011, 02:40 PM
People are blowing this way out of proportion. It was a mistake. People make mistakes. He apologized, and the family accepted his apology.

RedNeckRaider
06-25-2011, 03:30 PM
People are blowing this way out of proportion. It was a mistake. People make mistakes. He apologized, and the family accepted his apology.

I disagree this is not a slip up like the 57 states statement or something trivial. His family accepted his apology which was gracious. Given their sons honor that is not surprising at all. He was referring to this man and said “Jared Monti, was the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honor to who actually came back and wasn’t receiving it posthumously.” This was said to imply that he recalled this man personally. It is an egregious error and shows that the man meant so little to him he did not know if he was dead or alive~

Bowser
06-25-2011, 03:41 PM
The family forgave him. End of story.

Look on the bright side - he'll never make that mistake again.

Barak Obuttocks
06-25-2011, 05:08 PM
Right. It's such a non-story that's Obama's hand-puppets are all in here posting in this thread to tell us all how unimportant it is. Hey, here's a novel idea--- start a thread about something you do think is important. Heck, there are 100+ threads already started, I'm sure you can find at least one topic that you think is important for you to comment in. The economy, the deficit, the national debt, war in Libya are all on the first page. But no, you all chose this one, the one thread that isn't important.

Dumbasses.

Frankie
06-25-2011, 05:26 PM
Three shitty, shameful presidents in a row. Sad.

Oh really? Bill Clinton was a shitty POTUS?

HonestChieffan
06-25-2011, 05:30 PM
Oh come on. What can they do?

Stimulus? Naw, better let that go...
ObamaCare?....Ouch, every week its another clear screw up
Jobs?..What Jobs?
Immigration? Well, the damn Gun Runners screwed the pooch there.
Libya?...There ya go. Some serious ass whippin goin down there
Gas Prices/Food....well hell, its Quantitative Easing 3 right?
The Deficit/Budget/Debt limit....Biden is on it, no worries.


Bitch to be an Obot.

Frankie
06-25-2011, 05:33 PM
Oh come on. What can they do?

Stimulus? Naw, better let that go...
ObamaCare?....Ouch, every week its another clear screw up
Jobs?..What Jobs?
Immigration? Well, the damn Gun Runners screwed the pooch there.
Libya?...There ya go. Some serious ass whippin goin down there
Gas Prices/Food....well hell, its Quantitative Easing 3 right?
The Deficit/Budget/Debt limit....Biden is on it, no worries.


Bitch to be an Obot.

Obots > Wbots

HANDS DOWN.

banyon
06-25-2011, 05:48 PM
If he has no more attention to detail than this it does explain why his administration is so totally screwed up.

Bush backs 'Austrian troops' at 'OPEC'

Posted Sat Sep 8, 2007 7:25am AEST
Updated Sat Sep 8, 2007 8:32am AEST


Gaffe-prone US President George W Bush confused APEC with OPEC and transformed Australian troops into Austrians in a series of blunders in Sydney on Friday.

Mr Bush's tongue started slipping almost as soon as he started talking at a business forum on the eve of the APEC leaders summit.

"Mr Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction," he said. "Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit."

As the audience of several hundred people erupted in laughter, Bush corrected himself and joked, "He invited me to the OPEC summit next year."

Australia has never been a member of the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC).

Later in his speech, Mr Bush recounted how Prime Minister John Howard had gone to visit "Austrian troops" last year in Iraq.

Mr Howard was visiting Australian troops. There are no Austrian troops in Iraq.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/08/2027414.htm

"OMG with this level of attention to detail"... Bush didn't even know what countries were our allies or what conference he was at!111!!1! It's a wonder our country didn't disintegrate and fall into an abyss of magma! And I know HCF was there to call him out on it as atrocious and call our elected leader a "POS", right? Right?

Bowser
06-25-2011, 05:49 PM
Right. It's such a non-story that's Obama's hand-puppets are all in here posting in this thread to tell us all how unimportant it is. Hey, here's a novel idea--- start a thread about something you do think is important. Heck, there are 100+ threads already started, I'm sure you can find at least one topic that you think is important for you to comment in. The economy, the deficit, the national debt, war in Libya are all on the first page. But no, you all chose this one, the one thread that isn't important.

Dumbasses.

LMAO

HonestChieffan
06-25-2011, 05:55 PM
Bush backs 'Austrian troops' at 'OPEC'

Posted Sat Sep 8, 2007 7:25am AEST
Updated Sat Sep 8, 2007 8:32am AEST


Gaffe-prone US President George W Bush confused APEC with OPEC and transformed Australian troops into Austrians in a series of blunders in Sydney on Friday.

Mr Bush's tongue started slipping almost as soon as he started talking at a business forum on the eve of the APEC leaders summit.

"Mr Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction," he said. "Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit."

As the audience of several hundred people erupted in laughter, Bush corrected himself and joked, "He invited me to the OPEC summit next year."

Australia has never been a member of the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC).

Later in his speech, Mr Bush recounted how Prime Minister John Howard had gone to visit "Austrian troops" last year in Iraq.

Mr Howard was visiting Australian troops. There are no Austrian troops in Iraq.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/08/2027414.htm

"OMG with this level of attention to detail"... Bush didn't even know what countries were our allies or what conference he was at!111!!1! It's a wonder our country didn't disintegrate and fall into an abyss of magma! And I know HCF was there to call him out on it as atrocious and call our elected leader a "POS", right? Right?


Still livin on Bush?

banyon
06-25-2011, 05:59 PM
Still livin on Bush?

I don't care about either incident, I just wanted to point out how convenient your outrage was now.

dirk digler
06-25-2011, 06:10 PM
People are blowing this way out of proportion. It was a mistake. People make mistakes. He apologized, and the family accepted his apology.

Very good reasonable post. He made a mistake, he is not perfect and he apologized.

dirk digler
06-25-2011, 06:12 PM
"OMG with this level of attention to detail"... Bush didn't even know what countries were our allies or what conference he was at!111!!1! It's a wonder our country didn't disintegrate and fall into an abyss of magma! And I know HCF was there to call him out on it as atrocious and call our elected leader a "POS", right? Right?

Of course he didn't he was out golfing that day..

Mizzou_8541
06-25-2011, 06:39 PM
Wow, I wish I wouldn't have read this thread. I don't care if it was Obama or Reagan, but when honoring a posthumous MOH winner, the least the president can do is get the name right. It's not hard to confirm the pronunciation of a name. Those of you apologizing for this error are pathetic lowlifes. That is disappointing....no respect whatsoever.

HonestChieffan
06-25-2011, 06:49 PM
Wow, I wish I wouldn't have read this thread. I don't care if it was Obama or Reagan, but when honoring a posthumous MOH winner, the least the president can do is get the name right. It's not hard to confirm the pronunciation of a name. Those of you apologizing for this error are pathetic lowlifes. That is disappointing....no respect whatsoever.
Well said. Thank You

Barak Obuttocks
06-25-2011, 06:49 PM
Of course you don't care, banyon. That's why you went out of your way to dig up something similar on Bush (a lame effort, by the way) to do damage control for your pimp.

HonestChieffan
06-25-2011, 06:52 PM
Of course you don't care, banyon. That's why you went out of your way to dig up something similar on Bush (a lame effort, by the way) to do damage control for your pimp.

Its banyon. Ease up.

dirk digler
06-25-2011, 07:40 PM
Wow, I wish I wouldn't have read this thread. I don't care if it was Obama or Reagan, but when honoring a posthumous MOH winner, the least the president can do is get the name right. It's not hard to confirm the pronunciation of a name. Those of you apologizing for this error are pathetic lowlifes. That is disappointing....no respect whatsoever.

He did get the name right. He was talking to his unit he just got mixed up whether he was issued it alive or dead.

And for the record I am not apologizing for him, he made a mistake and owned up to it personally to the family and which the family accepted his apology.

Pitt Gorilla
06-25-2011, 07:45 PM
You don't have any idea what you are saying or to whom you are saying it.
Shut. the. ****. up.
Punk.LMAO You knew the white knight was coming.

Frankie
06-25-2011, 08:34 PM
He did get the name right. He was talking to his unit he just got mixed up whether he was issued it alive or dead.

And for the record I am not apologizing for him, he made a mistake and owned up to it personally to the family and which the family accepted his apology.

Bushies are looking for every straw to grab on to and somehow make Obama the Left's W. That's all this thread is all about. Obama has his faults, but he is far from GW, especially in the intelligence department.

VAChief
06-25-2011, 09:13 PM
scooter?

that's a strange name for a horse...

C'mon dude...it was a typo, it can happen to anyone. Give it a rest, you knew he meant cooter.

BIG_DADDY
06-25-2011, 09:28 PM
Bushies are looking for every straw to grab on to and somehow make Obama the Left's W. That's all this thread is all about. Obama has his faults, but he is far from GW, especially in the intelligence.

I don't know what's more amazing, your sentence structure, your use of intelligence when judging it or the fact that everyone has just gone numb from looking at your posts. There is always your classic signatures as well. Good god man, do you really think anyone gives 2 fucks about Bush at this point?

LiveSteam
06-25-2011, 09:43 PM
Oh really? Bill Clinton was a shitty POTUS?

He plays a killer saxophone. Smokes a mean cigar to. & likes young fat girls..
Clinton's are high class WHITE TRASH! IMO

Jaric
06-25-2011, 10:01 PM
Considering the gravity behind the award being given, and considering that as president Obama is the Commander in Chief, I don't think it's too much to ask that the President of the United States remember if the brave soldier in question is FUCKING DEAD OR ALIVE before going on about how it's the first time he's given one to a living man.

I understand that people make mistakes but for fuck's sake. This is one of if not the highest honor our country can give. Give it the respect it deserves.

banyon
06-25-2011, 10:21 PM
Of course you don't care, banyon. That's why you went out of your way to dig up something similar on Bush (a lame effort, by the way) to do damage control for your pimp.

The next time any of your posts merit reflection, it will be the first.

Pretty lame BTW is switching to your non-banned account hours after breaking the basic forum rules.

Bowser
06-25-2011, 10:27 PM
Considering the gravity behind the award being given, and considering that as president Obama is the Commander in Chief, I don't think it's too much to ask that the President of the United States remember if the brave soldier in question is FUCKING DEAD OR ALIVE before going on about how it's the first time he's given one to a living man.

I understand that people make mistakes but for fuck's sake. This is one of if not the highest honor our country can give. Give it the respect it deserves.

I agree with this, but my anger is lessened by the fact the family accepted the apology and moved on.

alnorth
06-25-2011, 10:27 PM
You don't have any idea what you are saying or to whom you are saying it.
Shut. the. ****. up.
Punk.

No, I wont. Here in the real world, people who have a life dont give a damn about this so-called "issue". You hysterical nerd-raging partisan hack.

Saul Good
06-26-2011, 12:06 PM
Considering the gravity behind the award being given, and considering that as president Obama is the Commander in Chief, I don't think it's too much to ask that the President of the United States remember if the brave soldier in question is FUCKING DEAD OR ALIVE before going on about how it's the first time he's given one to a living man.

I understand that people make mistakes but for fuck's sake. This is one of if not the highest honor our country can give. Give it the respect it deserves.

I think this is a fair assessment. It was an error worthy of an apology, and he apologized.

LiveSteam
06-26-2011, 12:32 PM
GET A ROPE!

Jaric
06-26-2011, 01:42 PM
I agree with this, but my anger is lessened by the fact the family accepted the apology and moved on.

With me it's not even anger.

Just disappointed that the Commander in Chief can't seem to be bothered about getting minor details about the people he oversees. Like if they're alive or not.

RedNeckRaider
06-26-2011, 02:24 PM
No, I wont. Here in the real world, people who have a life dont give a damn about this so-called "issue". You hysterical nerd-raging partisan hack.

Well you seem to like the word nerd. It is the first time in my life I have been called a nerd. Now you are calling him one. You may not be a nerd but you are a shitbag~

RedNeckRaider
06-26-2011, 02:31 PM
Considering the gravity behind the award being given, and considering that as president Obama is the Commander in Chief, I don't think it's too much to ask that the President of the United States remember if the brave soldier in question is ****ING DEAD OR ALIVE before going on about how it's the first time he's given one to a living man.

I understand that people make mistakes but for ****'s sake. This is one of if not the highest honor our country can give. Give it the respect it deserves.

This is what I said and think but several here seem to think it is no big deal. The family accepted the apology which was very classy. It amazes me people do not think this hero did not deserve enough attention for the fucking president who is name dropping his name to know if he was dead or alive. Giving him the award clearly did not mattered to the guy and he did not even recall doing it~

SNR
06-26-2011, 08:41 PM
Bushies are looking for every straw to grab on to and somehow make Obama the Left's W. That's all this thread is all about. Obama has his faults, but he is far from GW, especially in the intelligence department.I think you would have far more civil conversations with people in this forum if you would refrain from falsely associating items and ascribing them to large groups of people. In this case some people think what Obama did makes him a piece of shit. Call these people whatever you want, but be prepared to back it up.

There's a difference between that and name calling. I call people names all the time on Chiefsplanet. But I try to be intellectually honest about it. That's why you'll never see me calling Jenson or Direckshun a communist. What you're doing right now is attaching false labels to people, which creates a "me vs you" mentality from the very get-go. That's why people easily get furious with you.

Just my observations. Take it or leave it.

Frankie
06-26-2011, 09:55 PM
I think you would have far more civil conversations with people in this forum if you would refrain from falsely associating items and ascribing them to large groups of people. In this case some people think what Obama did makes him a piece of shit. Call these people whatever you want, but be prepared to back it up.

There's a difference between that and name calling. I call people names all the time on Chiefsplanet. But I try to be intellectually honest about it. That's why you'll never see me calling Jenson or Direckshun a communist. What you're doing right now is attaching false labels to people, which creates a "me vs you" mentality from the very get-go. That's why people easily get furious with you.

Just my observations. Take it or leave it.

When I say "Bushies" do I mean everyone who is attacking BO in this thread? Could it be that I am referring to just those among the attackers who spent their Bush days bragging about him, Cheney, and the rest of the dark side on this BB while being obnoxious with the rest of us who had seen through W-and-the-gang's dog and pony show? I could, when you think about it, couldn't I?

If you were not one of those Bushies then you should not take offense because I'm not calling you out. But among the very posters in this thread, you can bet there have been those who were here and quite vocal about their heroes in the Bush administration. Whether they did it under their current user name or their 26th one is hard to prove, but I'm comfortable my speculation has merit.

And OBTW, Calling a Righty here a Bushie is not the same as calling a CP liberal a communist. Not even close.

go bowe
06-26-2011, 10:13 PM
that's because bushies are not righties but cp liberals are in fact communists...

try to keep it straight, would ya?

Frankie
06-26-2011, 10:17 PM
that's because bushies are not righties but cp liberals are in fact communists...

try to keep it straight, would ya?

Mr go bowe's wisdom to the rescue.

As always. :thumb:

SNR
06-27-2011, 11:43 AM
When I say "Bushies" do I mean everyone who is attacking BO in this thread? Could it be that I am referring to just those among the attackers who spent their Bush days bragging about him, Cheney, and the rest of the dark side on this BB while being obnoxious with the rest of us who had seen through W-and-the-gang's dog and pony show? I could, when you think about it, couldn't I?

If you were not one of those Bushies then you should not take offense because I'm not calling you out. But among the very posters in this thread, you can bet there have been those who were here and quite vocal about their heroes in the Bush administration. Whether they did it under their current user name or their 26th one is hard to prove, but I'm comfortable my speculation has merit.

And OBTW, Calling a Righty here a Bushie is not the same as calling a CP liberal a communist. Not even close.You didn't offend me one bit. Just trying to help is all. Now could it be that you are referring to just those among the attackers who spent their Bush days bragging about him, Cheney, and the rest of the dark side on this BB while being obnoxious with the rest of us who had seen through W-and-the-gang's dog and pony show?

I just don't get the point you were trying to make. I really don't think there was one to be made. Some very intelligent posters here hold high reverence for the MOH and were pretty pissed that Obama made a mistake about it. Being a Bush supporter past or present has NOTHING to do with it.

And that's a tactic from Mad Crapper's book. You could post something totally reasonable like, "The Republicans aren't doing as good of a job of proposing spending cuts as they claim to be" and Mad Crapper would call you a communist. Well, that's exactly what you just did. You're calling people communists.

Mad Crapper gets flamed all the time for using that tactic. And you get flamed just as often. You could probably avoid that if you tried. But hey, do what you want. I'm just putting that out there for ya.

Frankie
06-27-2011, 06:48 PM
I just don't get the point you were trying to make. I really don't think there was one to be made. Being a Bush supporter past or present has NOTHING to do with it.

The "point" was not specific to this thread alone. It was to point out that the "Bushies" in question would LOVE to be able to portray Obama and/or Biden as being in the same clownish league as Bush deservingly was. There have been numerous posts put up to that end in the last two years.

You may hate Obama's policies as I hate some of his methods,... but dumb? PUHLEEEEEZ!!!

RedNeckRaider
06-27-2011, 07:37 PM
The "point" was not specific to this thread alone. It was to point out that the "Bushies" in question would LOVE to be able to portray Obama and/or Biden as being in the same clownish league as Bush deservingly was. There have been numerous posts put up to that end in the last two years.

You may hate Obama's policies as I hate some of his methods,... but dumb? PUHLEEEEEZ!!!

Sorry Frankie but Barry showed very poor form on this and rather you are on the right or the left this is a shame~

mlyonsd
06-27-2011, 07:45 PM
The "point" was not specific to this thread alone. It was to point out that the "Bushies" in question would LOVE to be able to portray Obama and/or Biden as being in the same clownish league as Bush deservingly was. There have been numerous posts put up to that end in the last two years.

You may hate Obama's policies as I hate some of his methods,... but dumb? PUHLEEEEEZ!!!

Bush wasn't dumb. His grades at Yale were above whatever Obama ever scored in college.

FishingRod
06-28-2011, 09:31 AM
Bush wasn't dumb. His grades at Yale were above whatever Obama ever scored in college.

Bush was an Evil Genius. How else could he allow terrorists to get on the planes make all evidence of the plane hitting the pentagon disappear, Plant explosives in the twin towers before the planes hit so they would crumble later. Then make the plane that landed and all the people on it and all the people that knew this happened disappear. Not to mention faking the Moon landings and stop the rapture from happening with nothing but a faulty fetzser-valve and some 30-weight ball-bearings.

HonestChieffan
06-28-2011, 07:37 PM
Bush was an Evil Genius. How else could he allow terrorists to get on the planes make all evidence of the plane hitting the pentagon disappear, Plant explosives in the twin towers before the planes hit so they would crumble later. Then make the plane that landed and all the people on it and all the people that knew this happened disappear. Not to mention faking the Moon landings and stop the rapture from happening with nothing but a faulty fetzser-valve and some 30-weight ball-bearings.

Overlooked Creation of Katrina. I mean the dude rules the weather.