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NewChief
06-29-2011, 08:56 AM
No KC love? Really?


Really? Andrew Knowlton is always a pretentious little prick on Iron Chef American, anyway.

http://www.bonappetit.com/blogsandforums/blogs/bafoodist/2011/06/favorite-barbecue-joints-bbq.html

The Foodist's 5 Favorite Barbecue Joints in America
8:30 AM / JUNE 29, 2011 / POSTED BY Andrew Knowlton
FILED UNDER: Restaurants
Franklin Barbecue's lean (a.k.a. flat-side or flat-cut) brisket deserves a closer look.
Photograph by Dominique LaFond

In the current issue of Bon Appetit, we name Franklin's BBQ in Austin, Texas the best barbecue spot in the country. Bold? Right on the money? Out of our minds? The reactions have been all over the place. We expected nothing less. They say you shouldn't talk about religion or politics at the dinner table. I'll add barbecue to that list. No other food--not burgers, not pizza, not fried chicken--brings out fanatics like smoked meat. At the end of the day, it's ultimately about celebrating great food and recognizing passionate people who dedicate their lives to it. That's never a bad thing.

On that note, it's my belief that every barbecue lover should have a list of his or her favorite spots across the country. On that list should be the first spot where you fell in love with barbecue--even if it hasn't fared that well over time. Also on the list should be at least one spot located in the town you live, no matter if you live in Anchorage, Alaska or Augusta, Maine. Because people who really get barbecue would rather eat it than debate it....I think. With that, here's my highly personal, very subjective list of BBQ favorites.

Holcomb's Barbeque, White Plains, Georgia
This is the first barbecue I remember eating (chopped pork and Brunswick stew), and for that reason it will always be among the best. This place (at least, what I remember of it, since the last time I ate there was maybe 25 years ago) has all the classic barbecue joint qualities: no frills atmosphere, sawdust on the floor, out of the way location, and sweet iced tea.

Allen & Son, Chapel Hill, North Carolina
Again, it's all the about the chopped pork at this legendary spot. You can get the BBQ plate (with Brunswick stew and Q) but I prefer the simple sandwich piled high with pork and a some coleslaw for crunch and acidity. A bucket list sandwich if there ever was one.

Fette Sau, Brooklyn, New York
Great barbecue in Brooklyn, New York? Take it easy purists: Don't dismiss it until you've tried it. Yes, they do all the traditional styles (brisket, St. Louis pork ribs, pulled pork shoulder) and also cool stuff like Wagyu cheeks, pork belly, and sirloin tip. And unlike many spots, they use organic or small family-farmed heritage breed animals. Authenic? Who cares. It tastes good.

Big Apple Barbecue Block Party, New York, New York
For two days a year during this smoked meat miracle festival, New York City is without question the best place in the world to eat barbecue. Pitmasters from around the country gather in Madison Square Park as crowds swoon. My favorite barbecue gurus who make an annual appearance here include Mike Mills of 17th Street Bar and Grill (Murphysboro, Illinois), Patrick Martin of Martin's Bar-B-Que Joint (Nolensville, Tennessee), and Ed Mitchell, formerly of The Pit (Raleigh, North Carolina).

Podnah's Pit Barbecue, Portland, Oregon
I like Portland. I like Portland's food scene, especially the coffee, Andy Ricker's gutsy Thai cooking at Pok Pok, and Rodney Muirhead's BBQ at this temple to meat. Check the daily specials for stuff like smoke lamb ribs and bone in rib-roasts. His brisket is Texas-worthy and the pork spareribs smoked for four hours would make my granddaddy proud.

That's my list. What's yours?


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Demonpenz
06-29-2011, 08:57 AM
No taste at all

gblowfish
06-29-2011, 08:58 AM
Yeah, when I think of BBQ, I think Brooklyn, NY.

Count Zarth
06-29-2011, 08:58 AM
Just bring some really sweet sauce with you to those places, dump it on your plate, and you got KC BBQ.

MOhillbilly
06-29-2011, 09:00 AM
Chopped pork and tejas style BBQ can suck a dick.

NewChief
06-29-2011, 09:00 AM
Just bring some really sweet sauce with you to those places, dump it on your plate, and you got KC BBQ.

Or bring your lean pockets, microwave for 30 seconds, and you have a Clayton meal!

Demonpenz
06-29-2011, 09:00 AM
Just bring some really sweet sauce with you to those places, dump it on your plate, and you got KC BBQ.

Bring a bunch of stupid, alot of Virgin attributes, and dump them in a bag of skin you got GoChiefs

morphius
06-29-2011, 09:00 AM
Well, he probably wouldn't set foot in KC because we are flyover country.

KCUnited
06-29-2011, 09:01 AM
I'll admit to wanting to visit Fette Sau.

Fish
06-29-2011, 09:01 AM
F him.... more for us.....

eazyb81
06-29-2011, 09:02 AM
I'm shocked that a NY resident thinks the best restaurants reside in NY. New Yorkers have never been known to be elitist, self-absorbed snobs.

MOhillbilly
06-29-2011, 09:03 AM
Just bring some really sweet sauce with you to those places, dump it on your plate, and you got KC BBQ.

Dont play like you know shit, boy.

blaise
06-29-2011, 09:03 AM
Yeah, when I think of BBQ, I think Brooklyn, NY.

They always want to pick some place in NY or the Pacific NW like it shows they know all the places or something.
I bet half these lists have more to do with the guy making the list getting his ass kissed at some restaurant, or getting his photo on the wall or something stupid like that.

blaise
06-29-2011, 09:04 AM
Or bring your lean pockets, microwave for 30 seconds, and you have a Clayton meal!

As you masturbate in front of your computer.

NewChief
06-29-2011, 09:04 AM
They always want to pick some place in NY or the Pacific NW like it shows they know all the places or something.
I bet half these lists have more to do with the guy making the list getting his ass kissed at some restaurant, or getting his photo on the wall or something stupid like that.

Whoever said KC was "flyover country" nailed it. All of his BBQ is found on the coasts. He's probably never even been to KC.

eazyb81
06-29-2011, 09:04 AM
Bring a bunch of stupid, alot of Virgin attributes, and dump them in a bag of skin you got GoChiefs

Don't forget the nasty extra skin from losing hundreds of pounds of fat and a hatred of women because they never give him the time of day.

blaise
06-29-2011, 09:05 AM
One of his best places is a festival. Ok.

NewChief
06-29-2011, 09:05 AM
As you masturbate in front of your computer.

He goes "ethnic" with his meal by matching his lean pocket with his porn choice.

Teriyaki chicken lean pocket calls for some asian bukaka!

Dave Lane
06-29-2011, 09:06 AM
Yeah, when I think of BBQ, I think Brooklyn, NY.

And Portland Oregon ROFL

MOhillbilly
06-29-2011, 09:07 AM
Don't forget the nasty extra skin from losing hundreds of pounds of fat and a hatred of women because they never give him the time of day.

If he knew something about BBQ he could get pussy.

mlyonsd
06-29-2011, 09:07 AM
$50 says he's a Jets fan.

blaise
06-29-2011, 09:08 AM
$50 says he's a Jets fan.

And Yankees.

Count Zarth
06-29-2011, 09:10 AM
If he knew something about BBQ he could get pussy.

Luv gives it up for some burnt ends?

morphius
06-29-2011, 09:12 AM
Whoever said KC was "flyover country" nailed it. All of his BBQ is found on the coasts. He's probably never even been to KC.
Wow, I really don't post enough when as a mod I'm remembered as "whoever", lol

Fumblerooski
06-29-2011, 09:18 AM
Fuck him...

Bob Dole
06-29-2011, 09:20 AM
When he lists a place he hasn't set foot in for 25 years, it's apparent the list is going to be total crap.

And who the hell goes to a BBQ joint and orders fucking Brunswick stew?

MOhillbilly
06-29-2011, 09:20 AM
Luv gives it up for some burnt ends?

Dont know about that. I do know if you can BBQ it turns women on.

Stewie
06-29-2011, 10:12 AM
Anthony Bourdain needs to kick this guy's ass and set him straight.

morphius
06-29-2011, 10:17 AM
Wow, I really don't post enough when as a mod I'm remembered as "whoever", lol
nevermind, I just noticed that one of the people there made the same comment I did here.

WV
06-29-2011, 10:21 AM
Like most things, BBQ is more about what you grow up with or are accustomed to. To say one style is superior to another is purely opinion and I know there are some strong ones here about KC BBQ!

MOhillbilly
06-29-2011, 10:27 AM
Like most things, BBQ is more about what you grow up with or are accustomed to. To say one style is superior to another is purely opinion and I know there are some strong ones here about KC BBQ!

So are you sayin KC style isnt the be all to end all of BBQ?

Huffmeister
06-29-2011, 10:35 AM
Whoever said KC was "flyover country" nailed it. All of his BBQ is found on the coasts. He's probably never even been to KC.

Bingo. Part of me gets annoyed at that kind of east/west coaster attitude. But at the same time I think "Good, keep your pretentiousness the hell away from me."

bevischief
06-29-2011, 12:09 PM
Oh great another BBQ war... I hope free agency starts soon.

Demonpenz
06-29-2011, 01:04 PM
I will take night of the living sauce as my first round draft pick. I can put that on baked chicken stred it like Stevie Vai it takes rockin!

MOhillbilly
06-29-2011, 01:21 PM
3-99 a bottle seems super cheap.

the Talking Can
06-29-2011, 01:43 PM
a) he's a d-bag

b) his exposure to bbq is limited to childhood and hipster bbq (NY and Portland)

c) there is no bbq in georgia that would rank in the top 50 nationally...and I'm being kind

BigMeatballDave
06-29-2011, 01:46 PM
LMAO Hes got a place from Georgia on there. Fuck him.

Nothing from KC, Memphis, or Texas. Fucking moron

Warrior5
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
$50 says he's a Jets fan.

Nope... $50 says he hates football.

blaise
06-29-2011, 01:56 PM
When he lists a place he hasn't set foot in for 25 years, it's apparent the list is going to be total crap.

And who the hell goes to a BBQ joint and orders ****ing Brunswick stew?

Yeah, that's the dumbest part of the whole thing. He lists a place he hasn't been to in 25 years?

RNR
06-29-2011, 02:01 PM
I moved to North Carolina last year and realized quickly that good BBQ was one thing I had sacrificed. The locals brag about their vinegar based BBQ and go on an on about how nobody in the world can match their pork. I have tried enough of it to finally understand why they drink sweet tea. It is to wash down the bullshit they call BBQ~

blaise
06-29-2011, 02:08 PM
I moved to North Carolina last year and realized quickly that good BBQ was one thing I had sacrificed. The locals brag about their vinegar based BBQ and go on an on about how nobody in the world can match their pork. I have tried enough of it to finally understand why they drink sweet tea. It is to wash down the bullshit they call BBQ~

I can't lie. I love Carolina style BBQ vinegar sauce on pulled pork more than any other kind of BBQ.

NewChief
06-29-2011, 02:12 PM
I can't lie. I love Carolina style BBQ vinegar sauce on pulled pork more than any other kind of BBQ.

Yeah, I don't mind it, either. I'll confess, it's not that I think that KC BBQ is the BEST IN THE WORLD. When it comes to BBQ, I have a lot of love to spread around, and I don't really get that competitive about region. I love most of it. That being said, it pisses me off when they don't even include KC BBQ (one of the three great traditions of BBQ) in articles like this.

RNR
06-29-2011, 02:15 PM
I can't lie. I love Carolina style BBQ vinegar sauce on pulled pork more than any other kind of BBQ.

Well if you are ever in my nick of the woods I will gladly buy you a plate and some sweet tea to wash it down with :thumb: I do not care for either one~

blaise
06-29-2011, 02:15 PM
Yeah, I don't mind it, either. I'll confess, it's not that I think that KC BBQ is the BEST IN THE WORLD. When it comes to BBQ, I have a lot of love to spread around, and I don't really get that competitive about region. I love most of it. That being said, it pisses me off when they don't even include KC BBQ (one of the three great traditions of BBQ) in articles like this.

Yeah, the more I look at the article the lazier it seems. It's like he just went out to a NY BBQ festival, visited some friends in Portland and Austin, ate BBQ while he was there, and added in some place he remembers as a kid.

WV
06-29-2011, 02:18 PM
So are you sayin KC style isnt the be all to end all of BBQ?

Lots of people here think so! Understandably so....considering the location of most Chiefs fans. I don't really have a dog in the fight as I like many different styles of BBQ, but none would be high on my list given the choice of any foods.

eazyb81
06-29-2011, 02:26 PM
Yeah, I don't mind it, either. I'll confess, it's not that I think that KC BBQ is the BEST IN THE WORLD. When it comes to BBQ, I have a lot of love to spread around, and I don't really get that competitive about region. I love most of it. That being said, it pisses me off when they don't even include KC BBQ (one of the three great traditions of BBQ) in articles like this.

I'm not annoyed that a KC place is not listed, although I am a bit disappointed if KC is not listed prominently in any BBQ ranking. However, the fact that he completely excluded KC, Memphis, and other top spots, while including two - TWO - BBQ restaurants from NY is just laughable.

I've lived in New York; there is no way that any BBQ joint there can compare to quality BBQ I've had in KC and other top places. By listing two NY BBQ restaurants in his top five, he comes off as the typical elitist New Yorker that thinks they have the best of everything, which is how they help themselves rationalize paying $3000+/month in rent.

MOhillbilly
06-29-2011, 02:37 PM
Lots of people here think so! Understandably so....considering the location of most Chiefs fans. I don't really have a dog in the fight as I like many different styles of BBQ, but none would be high on my list given the choice of any foods.


Hoss, i feel bad for ya. If you are ever in the ozarks drop a dime and ill whip some shit up and see if we cant change your lifes blood about food & choices.

gblowfish
06-29-2011, 03:01 PM
I'm not annoyed that a KC place is not listed, although I am a bit disappointed if KC is not listed prominently in any BBQ ranking. However, the fact that he completely excluded KC, Memphis, and other top spots, while including two - TWO - BBQ restaurants from NY is just laughable.

I've lived in New York; there is no way that any BBQ joint there can compare to quality BBQ I've had in KC and other top places. By listing two NY BBQ restaurants in his top five, he comes off as the typical elitist New Yorker that thinks they have the best of everything, which is how they help themselves rationalize paying $3000+/month in rent.

Here's a picture of the guy.
Doubt if he's ever been to KC, Memphis or Austin.

NewChief
06-29-2011, 03:02 PM
Here's a picture of the guy.
Doubt if he's ever been to KC, Memphis or Austin.

He's a pretentious ass for sure. I do kind of like his commentary on Iron Chef America because sometimes pretentious asses are entertaining (especially when he gets snarky with the other judges for have differing opinions).

eazyb81
06-29-2011, 03:56 PM
Here's a picture of the guy.
Doubt if he's ever been to KC, Memphis or Austin.

I bet he eats ribs with a fork and knife.

gblowfish
06-29-2011, 05:42 PM
I had a late lunch/early dinner at a place called "Woodyard Bar-B-Que" in KCK today. First time I had been there. It's an old bombed out 1930's era house with a porch and a screen door and a one table dining room. It was one of the KC BBQ places featured last year on "Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives." It was certainly a dive. Pretty much the polar opposite of Jack Stack for "ambience." It's in an industrial section of KCK off Merriam Drive between I-635 and Lamar. Last thing in the world you'd expect to find in that part of town. But I tell you what. I had the smoked half chicken special for $6.95 and asked to try a "cup" of their "burnt ends chili" which was one of their specialties. The chicken reminded me of the old Stephenson's Restaurant smoked chicken. This chicken was smoked, man. Slow smoked, tender, just wonderful. I got an entire half chicken, two sides (I had beans and cheesy corn) and a big bakery roll for less than $7. You'd spend $6 at McDonalds on lunch easy. The "cup" of chili was $5, but it was a huge serving. It was one of the best things I've tasted in a KC BBQ joint in a long time. It was piping hot, but not greasy, wasn't soupy or runny, just the right balance and man, was it good. Would have been even better with some crackers, but no dice. Everything was served up in styrofoam (because I got it to go), they didn't have fries -no room in the house for a deep fryer I guess-, but no big deal, all the other sides I had were good. No pickles with the meal, which is very unusual for KC BBQ. Also, with it being a 95 degree day in KC today, the house was hot, no real AC inside, just a few fans, so it would have been uncomfortable to "dine in." All in all about 3.5 out of 4 stars. This is a real dive, that's for sure. But really excellent BBQ if you don't mind styrofoam. I'm definitely going back soon.

http://www.woodyardbbq.com/

BillSelfsTrophycase
06-29-2011, 05:50 PM
TWO New York joints in the top 5

Seriously?

Dave Lane
06-29-2011, 06:39 PM
I can't lie. I love Carolina style BBQ vinegar sauce on pulled pork more than any other kind of BBQ.

Well you fucking live in Texas. Duh.

Dave Lane
06-29-2011, 06:40 PM
I love that place. And the BBQ is pretty damn good. Thanks for the reminder to head back there.

I had a late lunch/early dinner at a place called "Woodyard Bar-B-Que" in KCK today. First time I had been there. It's an old bombed out 1930's era house with a porch and a screen door and a one table dining room. It was one of the KC BBQ places featured last year on "Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives." It was certainly a dive. Pretty much the polar opposite of Jack Stack for "ambience." It's in an industrial section of KCK off Merriam Drive between I-635 and Lamar. Last thing in the world you'd expect to find in that part of town. But I tell you what. I had the smoked half chicken special for $6.95 and asked to try a "cup" of their "burnt ends chili" which was one of their specialties. The chicken reminded me of the old Stephenson's Restaurant smoked chicken. This chicken was smoked, man. Slow smoked, tender, just wonderful. I got an entire half chicken, two sides (I had beans and cheesy corn) and a big bakery roll for less than $7. You'd spend $6 at McDonalds on lunch easy. The "cup" of chili was $5, but it was a huge serving. It was one of the best things I've tasted in a KC BBQ joint in a long time. It was piping hot, but not greasy, wasn't soupy or runny, just the right balance and man, was it good. Would have been even better with some crackers, but no dice. Everything was served up in styrofoam (because I got it to go), they didn't have fries -no room in the house for a deep fryer I guess-, but no big deal, all the other sides I had were good. No pickles with the meal, which is very unusual for KC BBQ. Also, with it being a 95 degree day in KC today, the house was hot, no real AC inside, just a few fans, so it would have been uncomfortable to "dine in." All in all about 3.5 out of 4 stars. This is a real dive, that's for sure. But really excellent BBQ if you don't mind styrofoam. I'm definitely going back soon.

http://www.woodyardbbq.com/

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-29-2011, 06:52 PM
Yeah, when I think of BBQ, I think Brooklyn, NY.

ROFL

Fish
06-29-2011, 08:15 PM
Long hairs in pink dress shirts should not comment on BBQ...

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-29-2011, 08:17 PM
Long hairs in pink dress shirts should not comment on BBQ...

Men should not wear pink. Ever. No, not at Easter either.

RJ
06-29-2011, 10:06 PM
[QUOTE=NewChief;7721044]No KC love? Really?


Really? Andrew Knowlton is always a pretentious little prick on Iron Chef American, anyway.

http://www.bonappetit.com/blogsandforums/blogs/bafoodist/2011/06/favorite-barbecue-joints-bbq.html


Big Apple Barbecue Block Party, New York, New York
For two days a year during this smoked meat miracle festival, New York City is without question the best place in the world to eat barbecue. Pitmasters from around the country gather in Madison Square Park as crowds swoon. My favorite barbecue gurus who make an annual appearance here include Mike Mills of 17th Street Bar and Grill (Murphysboro, Illinois), Patrick Martin of Martin's Bar-B-Que Joint (Nolensville, Tennessee), and Ed Mitchell, formerly of The Pit (Raleigh, North Carolina).


None of those guys are New Yorkers. But even if they were, why couldn't they make great BBQ?

Geography does not a pork butt make.

Just sayin'.

Bacon Cheeseburger
06-29-2011, 10:14 PM
Eh, the best BBQ out there isn't in a restaurant anyway.

Toadkiller
06-29-2011, 10:54 PM
I I eat at podnahs and it is good for a friggen portland oregon place but out It is not a top five place and probably not in the top ten. He does do a mean prime rib and catfish sometimes as a special. I think my pulled pork is just as good as his.

|Zach|
06-30-2011, 12:08 AM
As much as I love KC BBQ...The style of it with the focus on the sauce isn't my thing nearly as much. I am much more interested in the flavor of the meet...especially beef brisket and things of that nature. I go light or no sauce.

Iowanian
06-30-2011, 08:08 AM
Reading that list, I'm guessing it was developed from smoking a different kind of sausage.

Bwana
06-30-2011, 08:12 AM
NY and Portland, Oregon? ROFL Where does this guy go for a good steak, NJ? This clown must be hitting the meth pipe.

http://meth-kills.org/images/meth-pics/meth-pipe3.jpg

ReynardMuldrake
06-30-2011, 08:20 AM
Men should not wear pink. Ever. No, not at Easter either.

Did you know that pink used to be considered a masculine color? Before WWII they used to dress little girls up in blue and little boys in pink. After the war it got switched around the way it is today.

Dayze
06-30-2011, 12:16 PM
that's why we went to war in the first place; to switch up the colors.

Stewie
06-30-2011, 12:22 PM
As much as I love KC BBQ...The style of it with the focus on the sauce isn't my thing nearly as much. I am much more interested in the flavor of the meet...especially beef brisket and things of that nature. I go light or no sauce.

The misconception about KC BBQ is that it's the sauce. Are there places that focus on it? Yes! Arthur Bryant's for starters. AB is not KC BBQ, it's just been around a long time, but has fallen way down the list of the best.

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-30-2011, 02:53 PM
Did you know that pink used to be considered a masculine color? Before WWII they used to dress little girls up in blue and little boys in pink. After the war it got switched around the way it is today.

COCA-COOOOOLA, WUVNDER-BRAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Baby Lee
06-30-2011, 03:52 PM
As much as I love KC BBQ...The style of it with the focus on the sauce isn't my thing nearly as much. I am much more interested in the flavor of the meet...especially beef brisket and things of that nature. I go light or no sauce.

OK Joe's has meat that has the spices, smokiness, and tenderness to go sauceless. . . . They also have the best sauce around.

PunkinDrublic
06-30-2011, 04:34 PM
You really don't appreciate the BBQ culture of KC until you've been away for awhile. This douchebag doesn't need to be owned, it's him that has to live with eating inferior que.