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mlyonsd
06-30-2011, 02:30 PM
Why Don't We Hear About Soros' Ties to Over 30 Major News Organizations?

By Dan Gainor (http://www.foxnews.com/author/dan-gainor/index.html)
Published May 11, 2011
| FoxNews.com

Editor's note: This is the first of a two part series on George Soros and the media.

When liberal investor George Soros (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/george-soros.htm#r_src=ramp) gave $1.8 million to National Public Radio (http://www.soros.org/initiatives/usprograms/focus/transparency/news/npr-grant-20101018) , it became part of the firestorm of controversy that jeopardized NPR’s federal funding. But that gift only hints at the widespread influence the controversial billionaire has on the mainstream media. Soros, who spent $27 million trying to defeat President Bush (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-18/soros-says-obama-has-lost-control-of-the-agenda-.html) in 2004, has ties to more than 30 mainstream news outlets – including The New York Times, Washington Post, the Associated Press, NBC and ABC.

Prominent journalists like ABC’s Christiane Amanpour (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/reporters/christiane-amanpour.htm#r_src=ramp) and former Washington Post editor and now Vice President Len Downie serve on boards of operations that take Soros cash. This despite the Society of Professional Journalists' ethical code stating: “avoid all conflicts real or perceived.”

This information is part of an upcoming report by the Media Research Centers Business & Media Institute (http://www.mrc.org/bmi/commentary/2011/Unreported_Soros_Event_Aims_to_Remake_Entire_Global_Economy.html)which has been looking into George Soros and his influence on the media.

The investigative reporting start-up ProPublica (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/propublica.htm#r_src=ramp) is a prime example.

ProPublica, which recently won its second Pulitzer Prize, initially was given millions of dollars from the Sandler Foundation (http://www.slate.com/id/2175942/) to “strengthen the progressive infrastructure” – “progressive” being the code word for very liberal. In 2010, it also received a two-year contribution of $125,000 each year from the Open Society Foundations. In case you wonder where that money comes from, the OSF website is www.soros.org (http://www.soros.org/). It is a network of more than 30 international foundations (http://www.soros.org/initiatives/media/contact/coordinators), mostly funded by Soros, who has contributed more than $8 billion (http://www.soros.org/about/bios/staff/george-soros) to those efforts.

The ProPublica stories are thoroughly researched by top-notch staffers who used to work at some of the biggest news outlets in the nation. But the topics are almost laughably left-wing. The site’s proud list of “Our Investigations (http://www.propublica.org/investigations/)” includes attacks on oil companies, gas companies, the health care industry, for-profit schools and more. More than 100 stories on the latest lefty cause: opposition to drilling for natural gas by hydraulic fracking. Another 100 on the evils of the foreclosure industry.

Throw in a couple investigations making the military look bad and another about prisoners at Guantanamo (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/iraq/guantanamo.htm#r_src=ramp) Bay and you have almost the perfect journalism fantasy – a huge budget, lots of major media partners and a liberal agenda unconstrained by advertising.

One more thing: a 14-person Journalism Advisory Board (http://www.propublica.org/about/leadership/), stacked with CNN’s David Gergen and representatives from top newspapers, a former publisher of The Wall Street Journal and the editor-in-chief of Simon & Schuster. Several are working journalists, including:

• Jill Abramson, a managing editor of The New York Times;
• Kerry Smith, the senior vice president for editorial quality of ABC News;
• Cynthia A. Tucker, the editor of the editorial page of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
ProPublica is far from the only Soros-funded organization that is stacked with members of the supposedly neutral press.

The Center for Public Integrity is another great example. Its board of directors (http://www.iwatchnews.org/about/our-people/board-of-directors)is filled with working journalists like Amanpour from ABC, right along side blatant liberal media types like Arianna Huffington (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/reporters/arianna-huffington.htm#r_src=ramp), of the Huffington Post (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/the-huffington-post.htm#r_src=ramp) and now AOL.

Like ProPublica, the CPI board is a veritable Who’s Who of journalism and top media organizations, including:

• Christiane Amanpour – Anchor of ABC’s Sunday morning political affairs program, “This Week with Christiane Amanpour.” A reliable lefty, she has called tax cuts “giveaways (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2010/12/20/abc-s-amanpour-refers-tax-cuts-giveaways),” the Tea Party (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/tea-party.htm#r_src=ramp) “extreme (http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20101017090954.aspx),” and Obama “very Reaganesque. (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2011/01/26/amanpour-hails-obama-reaganesque-contended-tea-party-too-extreme-reagan)”
• Paula Madison – Executive vice president and chief diversity officer for NBC Universal, who leads NBC Universal’s corporate diversity initiatives, spanning all broadcast television, cable, digital, and film properties.
• Matt Thompson – Editorial product manager at National Public Radio and an adjunct faculty member at the prominent Poynter Institute.

The group's advisory board features:
• Ben Sherwood, ABC News president and former "Good Morning America" executive producer

Once again, like ProPublica, the Center for Public Integrity’s investigations are mostly liberal – attacks on the coal industry, payday loans and conservatives like Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/haley-barbour.htm#r_src=ramp). The Center for Public Integrity is also more open about its politics, including a detailed investigation into conservative funders David and Charles Koch and their “web of influence (http://www.iwatchnews.org/2011/04/06/3936/kochs-web-influence).”According to the center’s own 990 tax forms, the Open Society Institute gave it $651,650 in 2009 alone.

The well-known Center for Investigative Reporting follows the same template – important journalists on the board and a liberal editorial agenda. Both the board of directors and the advisory board contain journalists from major news outlets. The board features:

• Phil Bronstein (President), San Francisco Chronicle;
• David Boardman, The Seattle Times;
• Len Downie, former Executive Editor of the Washington Post, now VP;
• George Osterkamp, CBS News producer.

Readers of the site are greeted with numerous stories on climate change, illegal immigration and the evils of big companies. It counts among its media partners The Washington Post, Salon, CNN and ABC News. CIR received close to $1 million from Open Society from 2003 to 2008.

Why does it all matter? Journalists, we are constantly told, are neutral in their reporting. In almost the same breath, many bemoan the influence of money in politics. It is a maxim of both the left and many in the media that conservatives are bought and paid for by business interests. Yet where are the concerns about where their money comes from?

Fred Brown, who recently revised the book “Journalism Ethics: A Casebook of Professional Conduct for News Media,” argues journalists need to be “transparent” about their connections and “be up front about your relationship” with those who fund you.

Unfortunately, that rarely happens. While the nonprofits list who sits on their boards, the news outlets they work for make little or no effort to connect those dots. Amanpour’s biography page (http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/christiane-amanpour-biography-anchor-week-christiane-amanpour/story?id=11208824), for instance, talks about her lengthy career, her time at CNN and her many awards. It makes no mention of her affiliation with the Center for Public Integrity.

If journalists were more up front, they would have to admit numerous uncomfortable connections with groups that push a liberal agenda, many of them funded by the stridently liberal George Soros. So don’t expect that transparency any time soon.

Dan Gainor is the Boone Pickens Fellow and the Media Research Center’s Vice President for Business and Culture. He writes frequently for Fox News Opinion. He can also be contacted on FaceBook (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/facebook.htm#r_src=ramp) and Twitter (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/twitter.htm#r_src=ramp)&&&&&&

Why Is Soros Spending Over $48 Million Funding Media Organizations?

By Dan Gainor (http://www.foxnews.com/author/dan-gainor/index.html)
Published May 18, 2011
| FoxNews.com

Editor's note: This is the second part of a two part series by on billionaire investor George Soros and his ties to the U.S. media. To read Part 1 of the series, click here (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/11/dont-hear-george-soros-ties-30-major-news-organizations/).

It’s a scene journalists dream about – a group of coworkers toasting a Pulitzer Prize (http://www.propublica.org/article/a-note-on-propublicas-second-pulitzer-prize/single). For the team at investigative start-up ProPublica, it was the second time their fellow professionals recognized their work for journalism’s top honor.

For George Soros (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/george-soros.htm#r_src=ramp) and ProPublica’s other liberal backers, it was again proof that a strategy of funding journalism was a powerful way to influence the American public.

It’s a strategy that Soros has been deploying extensively in media both in the United States (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/u.s.htm#r_src=ramp) and abroad. Since 2003, Soros has spent more than $48 million funding media properties, including the infrastructure of news – journalism schools, investigative journalism and even industry organizations.

And that number is an understatement. It is gleaned from tax forms, news stories and reporting. But Soros funds foundations that fund other foundations in turn, like the Tides Foundation, which then make their own donations. A complete accounting is almost impossible because a media component is part of so many Soros-funded operations.

This information is part of an upcoming report by the Media Research Centers Business & Media Institute (http://www.mrc.org/bmi/commentary/2011/Unreported_Soros_Event_Aims_to_Remake_Entire_Global_Economy.html) which has been looking into George Soros and his influence on the media.

It turns out that Soros’ influence doesn’t just include connections to top mainstream news organizations (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/11/dont-hear-george-soros-ties-30-major-news-organizations/#comment) such as NBC, ABC, The New York Times and Washington Post. It’s bought him connections to the underpinnings of the news business. The Columbia Journalism Review, which bills itself as “a watchdog and a friend of the press in all its forms (http://www.cjr.org/about_us/mission_statement.php),” lists several investigative reporting projects funded by one of Soros foundations.

The “News Frontier Database (http://www.cjr.org/the_news_frontier_database/online-news-websites/institutional-support/open-society-institute.php)” includes seven different investigative reporting projects funded by Soros’ Open Society Institute. Along with ProPublica, there are the Center for Public Integrity, the Center for Investigative Reporting and New Orleans’ The Lens. The Columbia School of Journalism (http://www.cjr.org/about_us/masthead.php#MajorFunders), which operates CJR, has received at least $600,000 from Soros, as well.

Imagine if conservative media punching bags David and Charles Koch had this many connections to journalists. Even if the Kochs could find journalists willing to support conservative media (doubtful), they would be skewered by the left.

For Soros, it’s news, but it nothing new. According to “Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire (http://www.amazon.com/Soros-Life-Times-Messianic-Billionaire/dp/0375405852),” he has been fascinated by media from when he was a boy where early career interests included “history or journalism or some form of writing.” He served as “editor-in-chief, publisher, and news vendor of” his own paper, “The Lupa News” and wrote a wall newspaper in his native Hungary before leaving, wrote author Michael T. Kaufman, a 40-year New York Times veteran. The Communist Party “encouraged” such papers.

Now as one of the world’s richest men (No. 46 on Forbes’ list (http://www.forbes.com/wealth/billionaires/list)), he gets to indulge his dreams. Since those dreams seem to involve controlling media from the ground up, Soros naturally started with Columbia University’s School of Journalism. Columbia is headed by President Lee Bollinger (http://www.columbia.edu/cu/president/docs/bio/index.html), who also sits on the Pulitzer Prize board and the board of directors of The Washington Post.

Bollinger, like some of Soros’ other funding recipients (http://www.freepress.net/publicbroadcasting), is pushing for journalism to find a new sugar daddy or at least an uncle – Uncle Sam. Bollinger wrote in his book “Uninhibited, Robust, and Wide-Open: A Free Press for a New Century (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/019530439X?tag=theamericansp-20)” that government should fund media (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/019530439X?tag=theamericansp-20). A 2009 study by Columbia’s journalism program came to the same conclusion, calling for “a national fund for local news (http://www.journalism.columbia.edu/system/documents/1/original/Reconstruction_of_Journalism.pdf).”

Conveniently, Len Downie, the lead author of that piece, is on both the Post’s board and the board of the Center for Investigative Reporting, also funded by Soros.

Soros funds more than just the most famous journalism school in the nation. There are journalism industry associations like:
• The National Federation of Community Broadcasters;
• The National Association of Hispanic Journalists;
• And the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Readers unhappy with Soros’ media influence might be tempted to voice concerns to the Organization of News Ombudsmen – a professional group devoted to “monitoring accuracy, fairness and balance (http://newsombudsmen.org/about).” Perhaps they might consider a direct complaint to one such as NPR’s Alicia Shepard or PBS’s Michael Getler, both directors of the organization. Unfortunately, that group is also funded by Soros. At the bottom of the Organization of News Ombudsmen’s website front page is the line: “Supported by the Open Society Institute (http://newsombudsmen.org/),” a Soros foundation. It is the only organization so listed.

The group’s membership page lists 57 members from around globe and features:
• Deirdre Edgar, readers’ representative of The Los Angeles Times;
• Brent Jones, standards editor, USA Today;
• Kelly McBride, ombudsman, ESPN;
• Patrick Pexton, ombudsman, The Washington Post.

The site doesn’t address whether the OSI money creates a conflict of interest. But then, who could readers complain to anyway?

There’s more. The Open Society Institute is one of several foundations funding the Investigative News Network (INN) (http://investigativenewsnetwork.org/about/funders), a collaboration of 32 non-profit news organizations (http://investigativenewsnetwork.org/the-members)producing what they claim is “non-partisan investigative news.” The James L. Knight Foundation also backs the network and is possibly the most-well-known journalism foundation. Knight President and CEO Alberto Ibargüen is on the board of directors for ProPublica.

INN includes the Investigative Reporting Workshop at American University, the liberal web start-up MinnPost, National Institute for Computer-Assisted Reporting, National Public Radio, and the Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism. The network had included the liberal Huffington Post (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/the-huffington-post.htm#r_src=ramp) investigative operation among its grants, but HuffPo investigations merged with the possibly even more left-wing Center for Public Integrity (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/business/media/19nonprofit.html), on whose board (http://www.iwatchnews.org/about/our-people/board-of-directors) Arianna Huffington (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/reporters/arianna-huffington.htm#r_src=ramp) sits.

Liberal academic programs, left-wing investigative journalism and even supposedly neutral news organizations all paid for by a man who spends tens of millions of dollars (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-18/soros-says-obama-has-lost-control-of-the-agenda-.html) openly attacking the right. George Soros is teaching journalists that their industry has a future as long as he opens his wallet.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/18/soros-spending-48-million-funding-media-organizations/

blaise
06-30-2011, 03:15 PM
Because like FAUX NEWS AND STUFF!

alpha_omega
07-01-2011, 11:59 AM
This seemed appropriate for this thread....

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/07/01/media-matters-war-on-fox-news-and-me/?test=faces


At first glance “Media Matters” is a group that monitors the wild and crazy comments that are made on radio and television. There is nothing wrong with that. People should be accountable for their words – words have power.
Since they began work in 2004, however, the watchdog spirit of the group's founding has turned into an outright assault on its political opponents. That means they delight in attacking anyone with a conservative point of view on radio or TV. In fact, they have now announced they are engaged in a “war” against Fox News Channel and anyone who appears on their airwaves. They have also admitted to engaging in a despicable campaign to dig up dirt on Fox News executives and producers in an attempt to do personal damage to people who are guilty of offering the public political perspectives they find disagreeable.
That means they have targeted me. Yes, I am paid by Fox News to do political analysis. It is also true that on most issues I am left of center – what most on the far right call a liberal. And I go to political battle over ideas and policies by offering my views, hearing other viewpoints and often challenging conservative arguments on Fox.
Yet, apparently as part of their assault on Fox and its employees, Media Matters has targeted me for years for making what they smugly and fatuously call “false claims.” They cheered as I was fired from National Public Radio last October and praised NPR’s management for their courage. Their only complaint was that NPR did not also fire my friend and Fox News colleague Mara Liasson, at the same time.
Media Matters has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, courtesy of far-left donors like billionaire George Soros (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/george-soros.htm#r_src=ramp), to silence me and other media figures with whom they disagree under the guise of fighting back against the power of conservative media outlets.
But the honest way to win an argument is with ideas, facts and the power of persuasion. It is not about smearing people, playing “gotcha” over statements taken out of context and destroying news organizations.


Winning does not mean getting in the gutter by bullying sponsors in to pulling their advertising dollars from news outlets they do not like.


There are many words one could use to describe Media Matters but there is one thing they are not: liberal.

The people who run Media Matters do not believe in honest discourse or the free flow of ideas. They are in business to protect and promote one brand of political orthodoxy – far left -- by slandering and intimidating any voice in the media who disagrees with them. That is the opposite of free speech. And that means Media Matters is the opposite of liberal.
Real liberals do not try to destroy their opponents with character assassinations. Instead, they engage them in debate using facts and ideas. Real liberals favor intellect over invective. Real liberals like to win arguments by proving their case better than their opponent – they do not try to dig up dirt on executives and producers to undercut the legitimacy of media outlets that have a different editorial bent.
I am a proud liberal and secure enough in my beliefs to refrain from ad hominem attacks and dishonest cheap shots at conservatives whom I disagree with.
I cannot imagine the great liberal heroes of my life time like Thurgood Marshall (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/thurgood-marshall.htm#r_src=ramp), Bobby Kennedy (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/bobby-kennedy.htm#r_src=ramp) and Daniel Patrick Moynihan having anything but contempt for liberal bullies like Media Matters. With the manic obsession of a stalker, they record and monitor every hour of broadcasting on Fox looking for examples of conservative “misinformation.”
Every news organization makes mistakes. Check the corrections box in your local daily paper if you have any questions about it. But Media Matters focuses only on people they don't agree with at news outlets and sometimes twists comments for maximum outrage as they disseminate their slanted, context-free interpretation of conservative news and commentary to politicians, pundits and sympathizers in the mainstream media.
Their tactics and view of politics are more like those of the late Senator Joseph McCarthy (R-Wis.) who zealously accused anyone who disagreed with him of being a communist or a communist sympathizer.
Media Matters is run by the credulous David Brock, a former conservative writer whose previous claim to fame was admitting that he knowingly and repeatedly lied in articles he wrote for the conservative magazine, The American Spectator, in an attempt to destroy liberals. Now, Brock makes a living in service to trying to destroy conservative news organizations.
In an op-ed for the Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/21/gray-taxpayers-subsidization-of-war-on-fox-news/) last week, former White House (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/white-house.htm#r_src=ramp) Counsel C. Boyden Gray noted that the group is allowed to receive tax-deductible contributions because of its status as a 501 (c) (3). Gray suggested that the activities of Media Matters “do not merit tax-exempt status” and that by granting them this status, the IRS “may be infringing on Fox News’ First Amendment rights.”
The IRS should seriously reconsider Media Matters’ tax status. In the meantime, the rest of us can only call them out for their dishonest and underhanded tactics. Liberals should be in the forefront of every effort to use our freedom of speech to push back against their efforts to chill, in fact destroy, the free speech of others.
Juan Williams (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/reporters/juan-williams.htm#r_src=ramp) is a writer, author and Fox News political analyst. His new book is "Muzzled: The Assault On Honest Debate" (Crown/Random House) will be released on July 26.

Jenson71
07-01-2011, 12:01 PM
Word is he's going to buy MySpace, Fox, then FoxNews, and then the Wall Street Journal. Can you imagine a single person owning that?

LOCOChief
07-01-2011, 01:39 PM
This is what progressives have to do.

If the truth doesn't fit your agenda then you must fabricate and to fabricate you must own it.

I wonder why self proclaimed pregressives don't see this for what it is? An attempt by Soros to control ALL the information that is available to you.

ChiefsCountry
07-01-2011, 01:49 PM
George Soros is the biggest piece of shit in America.

BigCatDaddy
07-01-2011, 02:50 PM
Word is he's going to buy MySpace, Fox, then FoxNews, and then the Wall Street Journal. Can you imagine a single person owning that?

People still use MySpace?

CoMoChief
07-01-2011, 04:36 PM
People still use MySpace?

Yes.....they're all creepy bastards

mikey23545
07-01-2011, 04:59 PM
You're all crazy. There's no bias in the media.

BucEyedPea
07-01-2011, 05:51 PM
George Soros is the biggest piece of shit in America.

He should be shipped back to Greece where his own people will kill him in a riot! :evil:

ChiefsCountry
07-01-2011, 05:59 PM
He should be shipped back to Greece where his own people will kill him in a riot! :evil:

POS is from Hungary.

Jenson71
07-02-2011, 12:00 AM
This is what progressives have to do.

If the truth doesn't fit your agenda then you must fabricate and to fabricate you must own it.

I wonder why self proclaimed pregressives don't see this for what it is? An attempt by Soros to control ALL the information that is available to you.

So like . . . what's your take on Rupert Murdoch?

Mr. Kotter
07-02-2011, 10:19 AM
Rupert Murdoch publishes a story criticizing someone on the left that is less effective at doing what Murdoch himself is much more effective at doing...from the right.

PRICELESS... LMAO

Chiefshrink
07-02-2011, 12:30 PM
It's what Marxists do. Whoops! I mean it's what "Progressives do. Should we be surprised:shrug:

Chiefshrink
07-02-2011, 12:35 PM
[QUOTE=LOCOChief;7725299]
I wonder why self proclaimed pregressives don't see this for what it is?[QUOTE]

Because most of them 'unknowingly' are "useful idiots" but the Marxist Media are definitely 'knowingly' "useful idiots":thumb:

stevieray
07-03-2011, 01:29 PM
Rupert Murdoch publishes a story criticizing someone on the left that is less effective at doing what Murdoch himself is much more effective at doing...from the right.

PRICELESS... LMAO
Rupert Murdoch isn't pining for a managed decline of the US and the creation of a New World Order, is he?

..but by all means keep spewing your tiresome, my turd is better than your turd partisan BS.

Chiefshrink
07-03-2011, 01:56 PM
Rupert Murdoch isn't pining for a managed decline of the US and the creation of a New World Order, is he?

..but by all means keep spewing your tiresome, my turd is better than your turd partisan BS.

:thumb:

Chiefshrink
07-03-2011, 02:04 PM
So like . . . what's your take on Rupert Murdoch?

Noooooooooo, the question should really be what is youuuuuuuuuuuuuur take on Murdoch?

You Marxist Libs get a little competition (other side of the argument in the MSM- imagine that! A true debate of both sides of the argument from Murdoch and Ailes) from Fox News and you Lefty Marxists act like someone just pissed in your cheerios and you become "talking head tampons". :shake:

Jenson71
07-03-2011, 02:06 PM
Noooooooooo, the question should really be what is youuuuuuuuuuuuuur take on Murdoch?

You Marxist Libs get a little competition (other side of the argument in the MSM- imagine that! A true debate of both sides of the argument from Murdoch and Ailes) from Fox News and you Lefty Marxists act like someone just pissed in your cheerios and you become "talking head tampons". :shake:

Rupert Murdoch works for a systematic deconstruction of the United States in favor of a New Corporate World Order.

Chiefshrink
07-03-2011, 02:15 PM
Rupert Murdoch works for a systematic deconstruction of the United States in favor of a New Corporate World Order.

Sarcasm or are the "blinders" starting to come off??:shrug:

Jenson71
07-03-2011, 02:17 PM
Sarcasm or are the "blinders" starting to come off??:shrug:

Oh, you agree with me?

Chiefshrink
07-03-2011, 02:22 PM
Oh, you agree with me?

check your rep

Jenson71
07-03-2011, 02:24 PM
check your rep

"You nailed it!"

Are you seeing "Rupert Murdoch" but reading "George Soros"?

Brock
07-03-2011, 02:25 PM
"You nailed it!"

Are you seeing "Rupert Murdoch" but reading "George Soros"?

:LOL:

Jenson71
07-19-2011, 12:18 AM
Breaking News:

George Soros' organizations hack into private citizens cell phones. Conservatives outraged.

Jenson71
07-19-2011, 12:19 AM
We should start a thread: Murdoch and his fingers in your private accounts.

Quickie
07-19-2011, 03:44 PM
We should start a thread: Murdoch and his fingers in your private accounts.

You should start a thread on your follow up on the Camero Tye manslaughter.

You did do a follow up, right?

You were so concerned in the thread about him/her/it.