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The_Doctor10
07-08-2011, 10:50 PM
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/bachmann-signs-pledge-for-ban-on-porn-and-same-sex-marriage.html

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=30http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/michele-bachmanns-slavery-and-pornography-problem/2011/07/08/gIQAjz053H_blog.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/michele-bachmann-signs-anti-gay-pact-that-says-times-were-better-for-black-kids-during-slavery.html

I've recently begun subscribing to the philosophy that no matter who is in office, the odds that you'll notice a difference are slim to none at best; if you're waiting on a government policy to help you do better, you're fucking screwed no matter which side you're on; Dem or Repub.

That being said, how the fuck does anyone justify this nonsense? People are losing their jobs, homes etc and one of the leading candidates for the Republican nomination comes out with this nonsense???

In what way could this possibly make her appealing to anyone but far-right fruitcakes? I'm sorry, but as soon as you say that even though slavery was bad, at least the blacks had 2-parent homes, you've eliminated the black population from voting for you.

And never mind the impossibility of actually banning porn, in a time of economic crisis, you really want to try and criminalize an industry that out-earns every major sport in America combined? Good luck with that.

I won't even comment on the gay marriage stuff, because it's just silly and it's an inevitability; in 25 years, your kids are going to ask you why this was ever an issue to begin with...

Anyway, any help understanding this would be appreciated, as it seems to fly in the face of logic and any desire to achieve higher office.

HonestChieffan
07-08-2011, 11:03 PM
I doubt most thinking people will base the choice of candidate, R or D, based on the impact on the porn business. You assume blacks dont see some advantage to a two parent home? Porn out earns sports and this is an issue? Do you really think anyone gives a shit about the issues you point out regardless of the candidate?

The_Doctor10
07-08-2011, 11:10 PM
It's a freedom. She's trying to take away the freedom to jerk it to Jenna Haze.

What about liberty, god dammit? I don't need a fucking gun, I need to be able to pretend to cum on Sasha Grey's tits.

ROYC75
07-08-2011, 11:31 PM
If you are in Calgary Alberta,why does this bother you ?

Obviously she feels that single parenting is a bad / sad way for kids to grow up? That being gay is wrong? That porn is wrong ?

You know, she does have and is entitled to her opinion just as you are? I'm sure there are many American citizens that feel that way too.

It's just, opinions.

The_Doctor10
07-08-2011, 11:40 PM
If you are in Calgary Alberta,why does this bother you ?

Obviously she feels that single parenting is a bad / sad way for kids to grow up? That being gay is wrong? That porn is wrong ?

You know, she does have and is entitled to her opinion just as you are? I'm sure there are many American citizens that feel that way too.

It's just, opinions.

It's a curiosity for many up here to see moral issues like these get so much press during political campaigns. I'm no different.

And I'm not saying she's wrong about the single parent stuff, either. She is perfectly entitled to her opinion. Signing a declaration that she wants to make that stuff law seems bizarre to me. Personal opinion is fine; signing these sorts of things into law, or making appearances that you want to, seems like the sort of thing that epitomizes wasteful government.

SLAG
07-09-2011, 12:07 AM
Who?

patteeu
07-09-2011, 12:32 AM
What part don't you understand? It seems like the articles you linked explain the situation pretty well. I'll try to help though.

1. Blacks are more likely to vote for her after signing that pledge than before. She was going to get virtually no black support to begin with, but now she might at least get some support from a few blacks who value traditional families and who correctly see the epidemic of single parenthood as a destructive force. The only people who will take offense at the reference to slavery are the morons who either can't or won't bother to understand what's being said.

2. Even though I agree with you that gay marriage is inevitable, there's still nearly half of the population that opposes it. That's a pretty large constituency. It might be a loser if everyone in the country was a single issue voter on that issue, but that's not the case. In fact, I bet that out of those who are single issue voters on gay marriage, the majority oppose it. I favor gay marriage, but it's so far down on the priority list for me that I can easily overlook this difference if the candidate matches up well on the higher priority stuff.

Okie_Apparition
07-09-2011, 12:57 AM
Ralph Murdoch told her to

Cave Johnson
07-14-2011, 01:51 PM
Real genious, that Michelle Bachmann.

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patteeu
07-14-2011, 02:16 PM
Real genious, that Michelle Bachmann.

Real genious, that Barack Obama.

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Amnorix
07-14-2011, 03:07 PM
It exemplifies why Bachmann is a marginal candidate with no chance of winning. At most she can influence the debate in some areas, which may be all she really hopes to achieve (if she's realistic), similar to a Ron Paul.

As soon as more of that stuff gets publicized, her numbers will sink like the Titanic.

Baby Lee
07-14-2011, 03:09 PM
Ralph Murdoch told her to

Weird, the exact moment I read Murdoch's name, Alison Rosen said his name on Carolla's podcast playing on my PC.

Cave Johnson
07-15-2011, 12:57 PM
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Pitt Gorilla
07-15-2011, 10:51 PM
She has a lot of chutzpah.

BucEyedPea
07-16-2011, 09:50 AM
She left her church before announcing her candidacy and that church says the Pope is the anti-Christ.

Oh hell! This won't help her candidacy.

Cave Johnson
07-21-2011, 11:18 AM
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4237/66508258.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/66508258.jpg/)

Before Vice President Dick Cheney's visit this past summer, Bachmann's husband, Marcus, hit the stores -- "he's got a good sense of style" -- and came home with "a sleek, simple hourglass dress with a yoke collar in winter white." He even bought a matching coat and shoes. "I just slipped it on."

http://www.towleroad.com/2011/07/marcus-bachmann-acts-as-micheles-sometime-stylist.html#ixzz1Sl0c7dR5

Jaric
07-21-2011, 11:20 AM
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4237/66508258.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/66508258.jpg/)



http://www.towleroad.com/2011/07/marcus-bachmann-acts-as-micheles-sometime-stylist.html#ixzz1Sl0c7dR5

I wondered why my Ted Haggard alarm was going off.

King Tut
07-21-2011, 11:22 AM
I wondered why my Ted Haggard alarm was going off.

Pittsie wants him balls deep in his ass.

orange
07-22-2011, 03:15 AM
...

Banned on 4 posts!?! That HAS to be a record!

Rain Man
07-23-2011, 10:30 AM
Would she even ban the lesbian porn? I need to know.

banyon
07-23-2011, 10:39 AM
I doubt most thinking people will base the choice of candidate, R or D, based on the impact on the porn business.

I don't particularly care about her view on porn, I care about her fundamental misunderstanding of the first Amendment and desire to roll it back when she wants to censor things she doesn't like.

banyon
07-23-2011, 10:41 AM
Banned on 4 posts!?! That HAS to be a record!

That's pretty easy to tell that is Shtty.


But Saul and patty think he's a great poster, comments just like that, oh what an asset to this forum he was.

patteeu
07-23-2011, 11:46 AM
That's pretty easy to tell that is Shtty.


But Saul and patty think he's a great poster, comments just like that, oh what an asset to this forum he was.

Some of his posts are better than others, just like most of the rest of us. :)

banyon
07-23-2011, 02:04 PM
Some of his posts are better than others, just like most of the rest of us. :)

Where are these so-called "better" posts?

One where he actually discussed something productively in a civil way with someone who was on the other side of the aisle?

BucEyedPea
07-23-2011, 02:34 PM
Where are these so-called "better" posts?

One where he actually discussed something productively in a civil way with someone who was on the other side of the aisle?

Pot-Calling-Kettle when he calls some folks "fringe" from Mr. Hostility himself.

jiveturkey
07-28-2011, 04:57 PM
This seemed like good ole traditional hypocrisy.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/bachmann-upset-over-attacks-on-husband-but-slammed-michele-obama.php

Bachmann Declares Husband Off Limits In Campaign — After Slamming Michelle Obama In ‘08

Michele Bachmann isn't happy with the attention her husband, Marcus Bachmann, has been getting in the press lately over allegations his clinic practices gay conversion therapy. In fact, she thinks he should be kept out of the campaign entirely.

"I am extremely proud of my husband, I have tremendous respect for for him," Bachmann said at a luncheon in DC on Thursday. "I am running for the presidency of the United States. My husband is not running for the presidency. Neither are my children, neither is our business, neither are our foster children."

But Bachmann has a very different take when it comes to other candidates' spouses: She's repeatedly attacked Michelle Obama in the harshest terms and specifically challenged the press to join in on her condemnations.

Bachmann prominently cited Obama in her diatribe against "anti-American" Democrats on MSNBC during the 2008 campaign.

"Remember it was Michelle Obama who said she is only recently proud of her country and so these are very anti-American views," she said at the time. "That's not the way that most Americans feel about our country. Most Americans are wild about America and they are very concerned to have a president who doesn't share those values."

More recently Bachmann took to Laura Ingraham's radio show to condemn the First Lady's initiative to promote breastfeeding as an effort to enact a "nanny state" and said Obama's agenda was "very consistent with where the hard left is coming from." Moreover, she mused that the media was failing to address the issue out of a bias towards the White House.

"Can you imagine if Laura Bush was doing that, out trying to pass her legislation?" she said. "I think the media would have been after her."

Cannibal
07-28-2011, 05:12 PM
What about liberty, god dammit? I don't need a ****ing gun, I need to be able to pretend to cum on Sasha Grey's tits.

HA!

Baby Lee
07-28-2011, 05:15 PM
This seemed like good ole traditional hypocrisy.

There'd be a better case here, if Bachmann had commented on Michelle's mannerisms and stature, musing on her sexual orientation, as opposed to commenting on her initiatives, legislative proposals, and remarks regarding love of country.

orange
07-28-2011, 05:35 PM
There'd be a better case here, if Bachmann had commented on Michelle's mannerisms and stature, musing on her sexual orientation, as opposed to commenting on her initiatives, legislative proposals, and remarks regarding love of country.

You would have a lot better case here if Bachman hadn't made this statement as a direct response to a question about the Bachmann clinic's business: http://www.politico.com/largevideobox.html?id=1084807191001

patteeu
07-28-2011, 06:30 PM
This seemed like good ole traditional hypocrisy.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/bachmann-upset-over-attacks-on-husband-but-slammed-michele-obama.php

Bachmann Declares Husband Off Limits In Campaign — After Slamming Michelle Obama In ‘08

Michele Bachmann isn't happy with the attention her husband, Marcus Bachmann, has been getting in the press lately over allegations his clinic practices gay conversion therapy. In fact, she thinks he should be kept out of the campaign entirely.

"I am extremely proud of my husband, I have tremendous respect for for him," Bachmann said at a luncheon in DC on Thursday. "I am running for the presidency of the United States. My husband is not running for the presidency. Neither are my children, neither is our business, neither are our foster children."

But Bachmann has a very different take when it comes to other candidates' spouses: She's repeatedly attacked Michelle Obama in the harshest terms and specifically challenged the press to join in on her condemnations.

Bachmann prominently cited Obama in her diatribe against "anti-American" Democrats on MSNBC during the 2008 campaign.

"Remember it was Michelle Obama who said she is only recently proud of her country and so these are very anti-American views," she said at the time. "That's not the way that most Americans feel about our country. Most Americans are wild about America and they are very concerned to have a president who doesn't share those values."

More recently Bachmann took to Laura Ingraham's radio show to condemn the First Lady's initiative to promote breastfeeding as an effort to enact a "nanny state" and said Obama's agenda was "very consistent with where the hard left is coming from." Moreover, she mused that the media was failing to address the issue out of a bias towards the White House.

"Can you imagine if Laura Bush was doing that, out trying to pass her legislation?" she said. "I think the media would have been after her."

Have you heard Bachmann's husband speaking out on the campaign trail or giving speeches on behalf of his wife? I don't know, maybe he has, but it seems to me like that's a significant distinction. If the spouse is going to get involved in the campaign in that way, they're fair game. If they're just minding their own business, I don't have a problem with the candidate trying to protect them from the harsh scrutiny of the campaign gauntlet.

vailpass
07-28-2011, 06:34 PM
I need more data on Bachman in order to formulate an opinion.
Do we have pictures of her naked?

Brock
07-28-2011, 07:00 PM
Just another broad in need of some deep dicking.

Brainiac
07-28-2011, 08:13 PM
Just another broad in need of some deep dicking.

That reminds me of something a co-worker used to say whenever a woman pissed him off: Somebody needs to power f*ck that bitch!

Brock
07-28-2011, 08:42 PM
That reminds me of something a co-worker used to say whenever a woman pissed him off: Somebody needs to power f*ck that bitch!

Well, seriously, if she was getting it on a regular basis, she probably wouldn't be such a nosy shrew.

Inspector
07-29-2011, 03:27 PM
Seems to me we should be judging her on the important aspects she presents.

What I am taking about is this:

To me, she's pretty hot.

Radar Chief
07-29-2011, 03:46 PM
allegations his clinic practices gay conversion therapy.

Do they pray away the gay?

Cave Johnson
07-29-2011, 03:59 PM
Do they pray away the gay?

How else do you get rid of the gay?

jiveturkey
07-29-2011, 04:01 PM
How else do you get rid of the gay?Isn't there a spray or something?

Radar Chief
07-29-2011, 04:14 PM
How else do you get rid of the gay?

Dunno, I thought there was a shot like a vaccine or something.
Course I guess a prick in the ass is what they're trying to prevent.

BucEyedPea
07-29-2011, 04:34 PM
I have to say, as much as I don't like her on FP, I loved her speech on C-Span yesterday. She was awesome!

vailpass
07-29-2011, 04:52 PM
Seems to me we should be judging her on the important aspects she presents.

What I am taking about is this:

To me, she's pretty hot.

I concur but my vote isn't swayed by superficial issues alone.
What does she look like bent over?
Does she enjoy anal, or does she just do it out of duty?
Road head: fact or fiction?
These are the issues that define her. I sent requests for clarification on these same issues to Palin but have not yet heard back. I'm guessing my spam filter is to blame.

Cave Johnson
08-15-2011, 03:55 PM
Marcus Bachmann, large wiener enthusiast.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9126/mbcorndog.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/mbcorndog.jpg/)

Jaric
08-15-2011, 03:56 PM
How else do you get rid of the gay?

The same way my dad got me to quit smoking...

Cave Johnson
08-15-2011, 03:59 PM
The same way my dad got me to quit smoking...

Smoke a whole pack at a time?

Jaric
08-15-2011, 03:59 PM
Smoke a whole pack at a time?

That's one way to put it...

ChiTown
08-15-2011, 04:42 PM
She wasn't going to get my vote before the whole ban on porn thing, but that certainly seals it for me..........

Cave Johnson
08-15-2011, 05:06 PM
She wasn't going to get my vote before the whole ban on porn thing, but that certainly seals it for me..........

Someone needs to tell her red states consume more porn.

alnorth
08-15-2011, 06:12 PM
She wasn't going to get my vote before the whole ban on porn thing, but that certainly seals it for me..........

no kidding. I vaguely heard about Vander Plaats peddling some kind of pledge, but never looked into it.

That pledge is beyond insane, it is retarded. I will not, under any circumstances, vote for someone who signs that thing. If it is Bachmann vs Obama, I'll probably vote Libertarian.

Easy 6
08-15-2011, 06:19 PM
Just another broad in need of some deep dicking.

LMAO yep, she'd forget all about this nonsense after being forged in Scotties fire.

patteeu
08-15-2011, 06:23 PM
no kidding. I vaguely heard about Vander Plaats peddling some kind of pledge, but never looked into it.

That pledge is beyond insane, it is retarded. I will not, under any circumstances, vote for someone who signs that thing. If it is Bachmann vs Obama, I'll probably vote Libertarian.

I'm against a ban like that too, but it sure seems like an irrelevant issue when it's viewed in the context of the major issues facing our country (not to mention the fact that I'm very skeptical that it's anything more than the same old lip service that Republicans have been giving to social conservatives for decades). When I decide how to cast my vote, I usually do it on the basis of the big issues. To me, gay marriage, abortion, porn, the death penalty and copyright protection don't rate compared to big issues like foreign policy, supreme court appointments, and economic/tax philosophy.

I have no use at all for Michelle Bachmann's social conservatism (and for the most part consider it a negative), but she's good on most of the big issues I care about. My biggest problems with her are electability (is she already damaged goods and can a woman win?) and inexperience (would she be in over her head as the conservative version of Obama?).

alnorth
08-15-2011, 06:25 PM
Someone who is so openly hostile to the freaking 1st amendment can not be trusted with the presidency. What else will she do, with the armed forces if necessary, to protect us from what her Godly eyes see as harmful?

patteeu
08-15-2011, 06:31 PM
Someone who is so openly hostile to the freaking 1st amendment can not be trusted with the presidency. What else will she do, with the armed forces if necessary, to protect us from what her Godly eyes see as harmful?

I think that's quite an unjustifiable overreaction, but if you really believe this, I guess I can see why you would help bring Obama a second term by casting a protest vote. I don't think defense of the first amendment requires people to martyr themselves on porn hill. Besides, for any porn ban to be effective, she'd have to succeed at amending the Constitution so it wouldn't really be anything other than an attempt to carve out one of the less important forms of speech from the 1st Amendment.

alnorth
08-15-2011, 06:32 PM
At this point, I think one could reasonably rule out Bachmann and Perry. Either could win the nomination, but neither will beat Obama regardless of the economy, they are both simply too nuts.

Assuming Ron Paul cant win the nomination, it may be Romney or Obama.

alnorth
08-15-2011, 06:34 PM
I think that's quite an unjustifiable overreaction, but if you really believe this, I guess I can see why you would help bring Obama a second term by casting a protest vote. I don't think defense of the first amendment requires people to martyr themselves on porn hill.

Frankly, I don't see Obama as a terrible alternative that would justify electing some moron who thinks we should abolish entitlements or another moron who seemingly opposes the bill of rights. I'm not a tax zealot who is willing to burn the country to preserve record-low taxes, I'm willing to wait and see on Obamacare if it survives the supreme court, and I don't think Obama is responsible for this economy at all. I'm not a republican any longer, the party has left me far behind.

patteeu
08-15-2011, 06:48 PM
Frankly, I don't see Obama as a terrible alternative that would justify electing some moron who thinks we should abolish entitlements or another moron who seemingly opposes the bill of rights. I'm not a tax zealot who is willing to burn the country to preserve record-low taxes, I'm willing to wait and see on Obamacare if it survives the supreme court, and I don't think Obama is responsible for this economy at all. I'm not a republican any longer, the party has left me far behind.

Given that you seem to think that porn is the essence of the entire Bill of Rights, I don't think the Republican Party was ever where you are. :Poke:

Seriously though, it's hard for me to get my mind around the guy who finds Obama a reasonable second alternative next to Ron Paul in a field that contains Bachmann and, especially Perry, but I guess I'm probably underestimating your aversion to true-believing religious folks.

Reaper16
08-15-2011, 07:05 PM
Pat, a useless hypothetical for you: would you vote for Bachmann even if it also meant that pornography and same-sex marriage would be constitutionally banned?

patteeu
08-15-2011, 07:09 PM
Pat, a useless hypothetical for you: would you vote for Bachmann even if it also meant that pornography and same-sex marriage would be constitutionally banned?

vs. Obama - Yes

|Zach|
08-15-2011, 07:10 PM
LMAO

HonestChieffan
08-15-2011, 07:41 PM
Pat, a useless hypothetical for you: would you vote for Bachmann even if it also meant that pornography and same-sex marriage would be constitutionally banned?

In your view, can a President overrule the constitution? I mean come on, you are a smart guy.

patteeu
08-15-2011, 07:45 PM
In your view, can a President overrule the constitution? I mean come on, you are a smart guy.

I think he's just asking whether I'd vote for her even if I somehow knew that she'd be successful in getting a constitutional amendment to ban porn and gay marriage through the entire process of ratification.

PunkinDrublic
08-15-2011, 07:50 PM
Doesn't matter I think Rick Perry will beat her. I think Perry is better at pandering to the religious facists even though he's a phoney and Bachmann is more of a true believer.

alnorth
08-15-2011, 07:50 PM
vs. Obama - Yes

That, is freaking insane. Its not even about porn, if a president was in favor of banning all religions and enforcing mandatory atheism and he had a lot of voters agreeing with him, I'd rail against it even though I'm atheist.

When you have a president willing to throw away the first and tenth amendments, I'd rather see Carter win than that president.

Aries Walker
08-15-2011, 07:53 PM
At this point, I think one could reasonably rule out Bachmann and Perry. Either could win the nomination, but neither will beat Obama regardless of the economy, they are both simply too nuts.

Assuming Ron Paul cant win the nomination, it may be Romney or Obama.
I wouldn't discount Rick Perry so quickly. He may be extreme, but he's got some pretty serious campaigning and image-management skills.

I still think the only one who can beat Obama is Sarah Palin (or maybe Jon Huntsman, due to his centrist appeal, but who's kidding whom here). I used to think Palin was definitely going to run, but now I think it will depend on how strong a showing Perry makes; she has the luxury of being able to wait, for several election cycles if she really wants to.

Bachmann is this season's Pat Buchanan; radical right with a strong showing early, but too fringe-y and extremist to make a sustained run at it. Plus, she's a rampaging idiot and her husband is extraordinarily creepy.

patteeu
08-15-2011, 07:55 PM
That, is freaking insane. Its not even about porn, if a president was in favor of banning all religions and enforcing mandatory atheism and he had a lot of voters agreeing with him, I'd rail against it even though I'm atheist.

When you have a president willing to throw away the first and tenth amendments, I'd rather see Carter win than that president.

What are you talking about? You're going full Kotter here.

Mr. Kotter
08-15-2011, 08:03 PM
:spock:


LMAO

Radar Chief
08-15-2011, 10:37 PM
The same way my dad got me to quit smoking...

Smoke a whole pack at a time?

That's one way to put it...

/Rod Stewart

banyon
08-16-2011, 05:25 PM
She's Joe Biden-esque


SIGH: Why Does Michele Bachmann Always Sound So Dumb?
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Just to be clear, I am not saying she is dumb.

But why is it Michele Bachmann can't ever seem to get the most basic facts straight.

Here's today's flub.

Earlier today in South Carolina Bachmann took the stage and encouraged the crowd to say happy birthday to Elvis Presley. Happy Birthday!

Of course today is actually the 34th anniversary of Elvis's death.

Oops. Again.

Taken on its own the flub is not a big deal -- presumably knowing the date of Elvis's birth and death is not a requirement for being president. People make mistakes.

However, this is simply the latest in a long (long) line of factual inaccuracies on Bachmann's part and the cumulative effect is both tedious and disturbing. Also unnecessary.

If it was just a one-off, or the result of a long day campaigning, that would be one (very understandable) thing. But it's not. It's a pattern and it backs up Ryan Lizza's assessment in his long New Yorker profile last week that he'd "never seen a candidate so loose with facts." And that's the disturbing part. The sense one gets that facts are simply an annoyance for Bachmann and not to be taken seriously.

This is a 'top tier' GOP candidate for president. Also a woman candidate. There is very little I would like more at this stage of the election cycle than to turn on the TV and see a strong female candidate for president who isn't constantly messing up their facts (be they large or small). Someone who actually seems capable of running the country. Regardless of their party.

Instead we get Michele Bachmann making dumb flubs that could be easily avoided by a simple Google. Get an intern. Geez. This is basic stuff. It's not okay when Rachel Maddow does it and it's not okay when Michele Bachmann does it.

And it's definitely not okay for someone who is running for president to not at least surround themselves with people whose job it is to make sure they don't always sound like an idiot.

http://www.businessinsider.com/michele-bachmann-elvis-birthday-death-2011-8

Brock
08-16-2011, 06:13 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-16/bachmann-has-income-from-subsidized-farm.html

Seems like a tax attorney would know better, or at least wouldn't lie about it.

BucEyedPea
08-16-2011, 06:28 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-16/bachmann-has-income-from-subsidized-farm.html

Seems like a tax attorney would know better, or at least wouldn't lie about it.

Huffo Post also mentioned she benefited from a subsidized govt loan.

BucEyedPea
08-16-2011, 06:30 PM
Someone needs to tell her red states consume more porn.

The progressive in those states indulge in it to keep their spirits up. :D Or other things up. :)
Hey gotta find a way to keep happy.

BucEyedPea
08-16-2011, 06:44 PM
Pat, a useless hypothetical for you: would you vote for Bachmann even if it also meant that pornography and same-sex marriage would be constitutionally banned?

It's pretty difficult to get those things, even with other Republicans. It has to go to the states. However, if the left was not so eager to get the same-sex marriage issue to the SC, it's less likely someone like that would even try. I think Romney is just pandering when he says gay-marriage should be federalized as well. Bachmann's also dead wrong about only certain people only having certain rights under the Constitution which protects "people"—including foreigners who are here and charged with any crime.

Amnorix
08-16-2011, 11:28 PM
I doubt most thinking people will base the choice of candidate, R or D, based on the impact on the porn business. You assume blacks dont see some advantage to a two parent home? Porn out earns sports and this is an issue? Do you really think anyone gives a shit about the issues you point out regardless of the candidate?


It makes her seem like a whack job, which she is, which renders her unelectable, thank God.