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Cave Johnson
07-12-2011, 10:17 AM
Heckuva job, Tea Party.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc030754.php

With this in mind, letís consider the recent developments the way a Republican would. Hereís a chart showing private-sector job creation in the latter half of 2010, when stimulus money was still being spent, and when Democrats enjoyed the congressional majority.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5617/110708beforegop.jpg (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/110708beforegop.jpg/)

And hereís a chart showing private-sector job creation so far in 2011, after stimulus spending largely ended, Republicans took control of the U.S. House and most of the nationís gubernatorial offices, and the national discourse pivoted from jobs to the deficit and debt.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6920/110708aftergop.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/110708aftergop.jpg/)

patteeu
07-12-2011, 10:31 AM
When did the R's take over Congress?

Cave Johnson
07-12-2011, 10:36 AM
When did the R's take over Congress?

That's your response?

Brainiac
07-12-2011, 10:37 AM
That's your response?

Seems like a legitimate question to me, since the R's don't control either the Senate or the White House.

Garcia Bronco
07-12-2011, 10:38 AM
Republicans control the House. The Democrats hold the Senate. Both make up congress

Radar Chief
07-12-2011, 10:38 AM
Is there supposed to be an X axis to those charts or is the reader to apply them to whatever time frame they choose?

blaise
07-12-2011, 10:39 AM
Good things that happen while Obama is President = "Happened during my administration."

Bad things that happen while Obama is President = "Well, the Republicans...."

patteeu
07-12-2011, 10:39 AM
That's your response?

Yes. If you don't know the answer, go ask Harry Reid.

Chief Henry
07-12-2011, 10:41 AM
Debbie Wasserman Sgt. Schultz has said the Dems OWN the economy. Thats good enough for me.

HonestChieffan
07-12-2011, 10:41 AM
Superior thread.

Brainiac
07-12-2011, 10:47 AM
Superior thread.

Yes, it is pure genius.

Cave Johnson
07-12-2011, 10:48 AM
Superior thread.

Yes, it is pure genius.

Tons of substantive responses from y'all, per usual.

RNR
07-12-2011, 10:49 AM
That's your response?

LMAO

petegz28
07-12-2011, 10:50 AM
The R's don't control Congress. Last I checked the Dems still control the Senate. What did I miss?

RNR
07-12-2011, 10:51 AM
The R's don't control Congress. Last I checked the Dems still control the Senate. What did I miss?

My laughter was his response not yours~

petegz28
07-12-2011, 10:51 AM
If this is the argument you want to put forth then go look at things when the Dems took over Congress, yes reall took it over, in 2007. Then STFU.

Brainiac
07-12-2011, 10:52 AM
Tons of substantive responses from y'all, per usual.
You are accomplishing one thing with this thread. You are proving that you and Sportsshrink are basically the same guy, except that you are on opposite ends of the political spectrum.

He thinks the Tea Party is forcing Obama to bend to its will. You think the Tea Party is responsible for the failure of Obamanomics. You two are the same guy.

blaise
07-12-2011, 10:53 AM
Maybe we just need like 20 more stimulus packages.

blaise
07-12-2011, 10:55 AM
So, bascially, the stimulus worked for about a year and then all the positive effects are now running out? Is that the point here?

ROYC75
07-12-2011, 11:31 AM
That's your response?

You are insane.


Thread FAIL !:clap:

Extra Point
07-12-2011, 11:37 AM
Clunkers for Posts!

Saul Good
07-12-2011, 11:41 AM
Its interesting that, at its absolute peak, the stimulus has still only had 4 months where job creation kept pace with the expansion of the labor pool.

Hydrae
07-12-2011, 11:43 AM
Is there supposed to be an X axis to those charts or is the reader to apply them to whatever time frame they choose?

The part I enjoyed was how the y-axis has different values so you have to really look at it in detail to try to perform any comparisons.

Graphing fail.

FishingRod
07-12-2011, 11:45 AM
The Blue and the red chart do not use the same scale. Now why would that be?

Saul Good
07-12-2011, 11:52 AM
Ignoring the idiocy of the OP, the 6 months since the turnover have averaged around 150,000 jobs per month versus around 100,000 per month in the 8 months prior.

HonestChieffan
07-12-2011, 11:57 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dFvh8tUWwoY/Thrjos3ilII/AAAAAAAAyTw/YaDZa1upUTM/s400/theo1.jpg

mikey23545
07-12-2011, 12:01 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dFvh8tUWwoY/Thrjos3ilII/AAAAAAAAyTw/YaDZa1upUTM/s400/theo1.jpg

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

mikey23545
07-12-2011, 12:03 PM
This may be the stupidest post that Pissie has ever given birth to - and that's saying something...

vailpass
07-12-2011, 12:04 PM
LMAO Dear God Pittsie. Has it come down to this for the obots?

mikey23545
07-12-2011, 12:04 PM
OMG, he's asking for a "substantive reply" to it?!?!?!

LMAOLMAO

Cave Johnson
07-12-2011, 01:02 PM
He thinks the Tea Party is forcing Obama to bend to its will. You think the Tea Party is responsible for the failure of Obamanomics. You two are the same guy.

That's the kind of savvy analysis I expect from a guy with Macho Man as his avy.

I OBVIOUSLY don't believe in this argument. The point is, you can't have it both ways. If you think, as many on here do, that Obama taking office led to steep job losses, then the same logic should be applied to the R's takeover of the House (and statehouses).

vailpass
07-12-2011, 01:04 PM
That's the kind of savvy analysis I expect from a guy with Macho Man as his avy.

I OBVIOUSLY don't believe in this argument. The point is, you can't have it both ways. If you think, as many on here do, that Obama taking office led to steep job losses, then the same logic should be applied to the R's takeover of the House (and statehouses).

You left out the words "President Bush".

Cave Johnson
07-12-2011, 01:07 PM
You left out the words "President Bush".

I've repressed his name, and the only way I'll discuss it is with extensive doll therapy.

"Show me where the bad president touched you."

vailpass
07-12-2011, 01:09 PM
I've repressed his name, and the only way I'll discuss it is with extensive doll therapy.

"Show me where the bad president touched you."

LMAO

go bowe
07-12-2011, 01:10 PM
I've repressed his name, and the only way I'll discuss it is with extensive doll therapy.

"Show me where the bad president touched you."

LMAO LMAO LMAO

blaise
07-12-2011, 01:12 PM
They play little public service spots by Obama on the radio station I listen to. I don't know if it's just me but he seems like he whistles when he says the letter "s" like 10 times more than he did two years ago.

Bewbies
07-12-2011, 01:15 PM
Sorry Frankie, I forgot about Pittsie.

Brainiac
07-12-2011, 01:37 PM
That's the kind of savvy analysis I expect from a guy with Macho Man as his avy.

I OBVIOUSLY don't believe in this argument. The point is, you can't have it both ways. If you think, as many on here do, that Obama taking office led to steep job losses, then the same logic should be applied to the R's takeover of the House (and statehouses).
Your "logic" fails.

You apparently believe that the Republicans gaining control of the House while the Senate and the Presidency remain in control of the Democrats is exactly the same as one party controlling the Presidency, the Senate, and the House of Representatives.

You're wrong. That's why this thread is being ridiculed.

blaise
07-12-2011, 01:40 PM
I just hope Republicans don't start getting elected as mayors of most of our cities, otherwise they might start to fall into a decades long spiral of disrepair.

Cave Johnson
07-12-2011, 01:49 PM
Your "logic" fails.

You apparently believe that the Republicans gaining control of the House while the Senate and the Presidency remain in control of the Democrats is exactly the same as one party controlling the Presidency, the Senate, and the House of Representatives.

You're wrong. That's why this thread is being ridiculed.

a) Presidents can only pass bills that get through Congress.

b) What's cloture?

blaise
07-12-2011, 01:50 PM
So, if we get another stimulus bill going can we get another 6 months of jobs?

Brainiac
07-12-2011, 02:11 PM
a) Presidents can only pass bills that get through Congress.
The Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency for the first two years of Obama's presidency. How did that work out for the economy?

Now the Republicans control the House of Representatives. They can't undo what Obama and the Democrats did.

b) What's cloture?
I assume you are trying to make the point that nothing can get done now that the Republicans control the House, which means we are still stuck with the laws, rules, and regulations that the Democrats implemented when they and Obama had control of everything. Thanks for making my point for me.

Calcountry
07-12-2011, 02:13 PM
That's your response?A post as asinine as yours doesn't even deserve a response, but this retort, as if you are owed something intelligent deserves a response.

You are a complete dipshit. Do you know how the constitution works?

We have divided government now. Last year, the Dems had everything. They FUBAR the united states, and now the R's are like a mom covering her child in a bathtub in Joplin, and you say, "nice job".

ROFL

RNR
07-12-2011, 02:15 PM
The Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency for the first two years of Obama's presidency. How did that work out for the economy?

Now the Republicans control the House of Representatives. They can't undo what Obama and the Democrats did.


I assume you are trying to make the point that nothing can get done now that the Republicans control the House, which means we are still stuck with the laws, rules, and regulations that the Democrats implemented when they and Obama had control of everything. Thanks for making my point for me.

I assume or should I say hope he is playing dumb~

Radar Chief
07-12-2011, 02:24 PM
I assume or should I say hope he is playing dumb~

ROFL LMAO @ the name change. :thumb:

Calcountry
07-12-2011, 02:53 PM
a) Presidents can only pass bills that get through Congress.

b) What's cloture?Obama never had the consent of the governed. He pushed shit through on a partisan basis, without ever looking at what the bitch Nancy wrote.

He needs to now live with the massive pile of dogshit that HE is responsible for. I doubt that he has ever had to be responsible for anything in his life. Sorry, but, you asked for the job BO.

Cave Johnson
07-12-2011, 04:41 PM
Y'all are a predictibly educated bunch. How long did the D's actually have 60 votes in the Senate?

RNR
07-12-2011, 04:44 PM
ROFL LMAO @ the name change. :thumb:

I spit beer when I saw it. Well played by my friend Flop~

Saul Good
07-12-2011, 05:06 PM
Y'all are a predictibly educated bunch. How long did the D's actually have 60 votes in the Senate?

Long enough to not get anything accomplished.

Brainiac
07-12-2011, 05:20 PM
Y'all are a predictibly educated bunch. How long did the D's actually have 60 votes in the Senate?

I see what the standard is. You blame the Republicans for not fixing the economy when they controlled the House, but you excuse the Democrats for not fixing the economy when they controlled the Presidency and both houses of Congress because the Democrats didn't have a filibuster-proof majority?

How even-handed of you.

whoman69
07-12-2011, 05:33 PM
When did the R's take over Congress?

When they demanded that all legislation in the senate have to pass a 60 vote supermajority by use of their intention to filibuster. By crippling the ability of Congress to act, they took over Congress.

whoman69
07-12-2011, 05:38 PM
Y'all are a predictibly educated bunch. How long did the D's actually have 60 votes in the Senate?

Y'all ignore the fact that Republicans voted as a block on everything and were always able to get a few Dems to join them. It only took one. The Republicans, despite the fact they lost so horribly in the 2008 elections, still controlled Congress because they were able to cripple it. The rules have been changed to make a filibuster easier to do. It was never intended for the filibuster to be used like it has been.

Donger
07-12-2011, 05:41 PM
When they demanded that all legislation in the senate have to pass a 60 vote supermajority by use of their intention to filibuster. By crippling the ability of Congress to act, they took over Congress.

LMAO

"It's the GOP's fault that the Democrats can't count on their own members to vote for their crap in order to get it to pass."

Good Lord. Great synopsis of the state of liberalism in this country.

mlyonsd
07-12-2011, 05:51 PM
LMAO

"It's the GOP's fault that the Democrats can't count on their own members to vote for their crap in order to get it to pass."

Good Lord. Great synopsis of the state of liberalism in this country.The thing that really scares me about liberals is they truly believe they have a basic fundamental moral right to something someone else possesses. It's like they believe they own it and only government stands in their way of getting it.

Saul Good
07-12-2011, 06:28 PM
Y'all ignore the fact that Republicans voted as a block on everything and were always able to get a few Dems to join them. It only took one. The Republicans, despite the fact they lost so horribly in the 2008 elections, still controlled Congress because they were able to cripple it. The rules have been changed to make a filibuster easier to do. It was never intended for the filibuster to be used like it has been.

Damn the Republicans for passing Obamacare!

Saul Good
07-12-2011, 06:28 PM
Y'all ignore the fact that Republicans voted as a block on everything and were always able to get a few Dems to join them. It only took one. The Republicans, despite the fact they lost so horribly in the 2008 elections, still controlled Congress because they were able to cripple it. The rules have been changed to make a filibuster easier to do. It was never intended for the filibuster to be used like it has been.

Damn the Republicans for passing the stimulus!

Saul Good
07-12-2011, 06:29 PM
Damn the Republicans for passing Cash for Clunkers!

headsnap
07-12-2011, 06:31 PM
Damn the Republicans for passing Cash for Clunkers!
LOLOLOLOL

Calcountry
07-12-2011, 06:33 PM
Y'all ignore the fact that Republicans voted as a block on everything and were always able to get a few Dems to join them. It only took one. The Republicans, despite the fact they lost so horribly in the 2008 elections, still controlled Congress because they were able to cripple it. The rules have been changed to make a filibuster easier to do. It was never intended for the filibuster to be used like it has been.Because we happen to believe in freedom and liberty, not state imposed socialism and redistribution and by God we will fight for it with our last breath.

Calcountry
07-12-2011, 06:37 PM
Y'all are a predictibly educated bunch. How long did the D's actually have 60 votes in the Senate?Long enough for Massachusetts to elect a Republican to fill Ted Kennedy's seat to STOP Obamacare, tehn the lousy low lifes pushed it through ANYWAY. 2010 and the tea party, were a DIRECT result of this kind of raping of the American people.

Now the House stands in the way of further raping. Obama has not spent enough, he needs more. The stimulus wasn't big enough, the programs didn't go far enough, that is why the unemployment rate is still high.

When Obamacare doesn't work, the solution will be more, more state control, and more socialism. That is always the solution to its inevitable failure.

Liberty, freedom, the right to pursue happiness, that is what we want.

Bwana
07-12-2011, 07:21 PM
Wow

blaise
07-12-2011, 07:24 PM
Y'all ignore the fact that Republicans voted as a block on everything and were always able to get a few Dems to join them. It only took one. The Republicans, despite the fact they lost so horribly in the 2008 elections, still controlled Congress because they were able to cripple it. The rules have been changed to make a filibuster easier to do. It was never intended for the filibuster to be used like it has been.

If only the Democrats could have 100% of the offices they might be able to get things done. As it is now, all they can do is sit around and complain.

patteeu
07-13-2011, 05:40 AM
Y'all are a predictibly educated bunch. How long did the D's actually have 60 votes in the Senate?

Long enough to do whatever they wanted and long enough to disgust Massachusettians enough to send a Republican to Washington to replace Ted Kennedy.

patteeu
07-13-2011, 05:43 AM
When they demanded that all legislation in the senate have to pass a 60 vote supermajority by use of their intention to filibuster. By crippling the ability of Congress to act, they took over Congress.

That's how it's been for a really long time. Most majority parties work to get a few members of the opposition on board so they can hit that 60 mark. The democrats just haven't been interested in any level of bipartisanship unless it's the kind of bipartisanship where Republicans cave in and do things the way Reid and Obama say they're going to be done.

patteeu
07-13-2011, 05:47 AM
Y'all ignore the fact that Republicans voted as a block on everything and were always able to get a few Dems to join them. It only took one. The Republicans, despite the fact they lost so horribly in the 2008 elections, still controlled Congress because they were able to cripple it. The rules have been changed to make a filibuster easier to do. It was never intended for the filibuster to be used like it has been.

The rules were changed to make a filibuster easier to do... BY dEMOCRATS... WAY BACK IN 1975. Stop crying about fake problems. It's been used more because the majority has sought more radical legislation and has been less willing to compromise.

petegz28
07-13-2011, 06:35 AM
Q: Who controlled congress the last 2 years of the Bush admin???

A: The same people who controlled it the first 2 years of the Obama admin

Bewbies
07-13-2011, 07:53 AM
I never thought I'd see Republicans blamed for some of the stuff I've read here. Amazing.

patteeu
07-13-2011, 08:35 AM
I never thought I'd see Republicans blamed for some of the stuff I've read here. Amazing.

Pittsie is amazingly out of touch with real life.

Cave Johnson
07-13-2011, 09:16 AM
Pittsie is amazingly out of touch with real life.

I guess personal attacks make more sense than repudiating your "the economy tanked bc of the D's in 2007" theory.

Cave Johnson
07-13-2011, 09:18 AM
Damn the Republicans for passing the stimulus!

Which was 40% tax cuts. What happened? I though tax cuts were some magic combination of bringing Lazerus back from the dead and the 5 loaves/2 fish miracle?

blaise
07-13-2011, 09:20 AM
I guess personal attacks make more sense than repudiating your "the economy tanked bc of the D's in 2007" theory.

"All I know is that when Clinton was President we were doing great, but now look! Look at gas prices under Bush!"

patteeu
07-13-2011, 10:17 AM
I guess personal attacks make more sense than repudiating your "the economy tanked bc of the D's in 2007" theory.

Duh, some of durtyrute's ideas make more sense than that.

ROYC75
07-13-2011, 10:20 AM
Liberals remind me of the guy that picks his ball up and goes home when he doesn't get his / her way...... kinda like the Mn. Liberals did .

BigChiefFan
07-13-2011, 12:00 PM
BOTH PARTIES did this. QUIT blaming others and ACCEPT responsibilty for your side. We're all Americans being hood-winked and you all are arguing over the color blue or red. If either is so damn good, why are we in this mess? Party loyalists puke fest.

Quickie
07-13-2011, 12:30 PM
BOTH PARTIES did this. QUIT blaming others and ACCEPT responsibilty for your side. We're all Americans being hood-winked and you all are arguing over the color blue or red. If either is so damn good, why are we in this mess? Party loyalists puke fest.

Right, but you have to admit it, Pittsie is pretty stupid.

notorious
07-13-2011, 01:37 PM
:facepalm:

Saul Good
07-13-2011, 01:43 PM
Right, but you have to admit it, Pittsie is pretty stupid.

I'd recognize that mult anywhere. You're Kirstie Tynes. Admit it.

vailpass
07-13-2011, 02:20 PM
I'd recognize that mult anywhere. You're Kirstie Tynes. Admit it.

LMAO f****** nice.

Chiefshrink
07-13-2011, 02:37 PM
You are accomplishing one thing with this thread. You are proving that you and Sportsshrink are basically the same guy, except that you are on opposite ends of the political spectrum.

He thinks the Tea Party is forcing Obama to bend to its will. You think the Tea Party is responsible for the failure of Obamanomics. You two are the same guy.

Don't you wish. The Tea party could "f" O if the RINO elites would let them but they feel that "bi-partisan" is must at all times so as to be liked by the Marxist media even if it means "f"ing "We The People" because well you know the "little people" are just stupid.

I have said it many times that as this "conservative movement" begins to rise to the top our biggest enemy for now is not the "Brainiac useful idiots" but the RINO cowardly elites.

BTW, your avatar fits you perfectly. Total fantasy:D