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orange
07-31-2011, 12:19 PM
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The Tea Fragger Party
By Kathleen Parker, Published: July 29

Fragging: “To intentionally kill or wound (one’s superior officer, etc.), esp. with a hand grenade.”

Take names. Remember them. The behavior of certain Republicans who call themselves Tea Party conservatives makes them the most destructive posse of misguided “patriots” we’ve seen in recent memory.

If the nation defaults on its financial obligations, the blame belongs to the Tea Party Republicans who fragged their own leader, John Boehner. They had victory in their hands and couldn’t bring themselves to support his debt-ceiling plan, which, if not perfect, was more than anyone could have imagined just a few months ago. No new taxes, significant spending cuts, a temporary debt-ceiling solution with the possibility of more spending cuts down the line as well as action on their beloved balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution.

These people wouldn’t recognize a hot fudge sundae if the cherry started talking to them.

The tick-tock of the debt-ceiling debate is too long for this space, but the bottom line is that the Tea Party got too full of itself with help from certain characters whose names you’ll want to remember when things go south. They include, among others, media personalities who need no further recognition; a handful of media-created “leaders,” including Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips and Tea Party Patriots co-founders Jenny Beth Martin and Mark Meckler (both Phillips and Martin declared bankruptcy, yet they’re advising Tea Party Republicans on debt?); a handful of outside groups that love to hurl ad hominems such as “elite” and “inside the Beltway” when talking about people like Boehner when they are, in fact, the elite (FreedomWorks, Heritage Action, Club for Growth, National Taxpayers Union, Americans for Prosperity); and elected leaders such as Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, head of the Republican Study Committee, and South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint, who grandstand and make political assertions and promises that are sheer fantasy.

Meanwhile, freshman House members were targeted and pressured by some of the aforementioned groups to vote against Boehner’s plan. South Carolina’s contingent was so troubled that members repaired to the chapel Thursday to pray and emerged promising to vote no. Why? Not because Jesus told them to but because they’re scared to death that DeMint will “primary” them — find someone in their own party to challenge them.

Where did they get an idea like that? Look no further than Sarah Palin’s Facebook page, where she warned freshmen about contested primaries and urged them to “remember us ‘little people’ who believed in them, donated to their campaigns, spent hours tirelessly volunteering for them, and trusted them with our votes.” Her close: “P.S. Everyone I talk to still believes in contested primaries.” While they’re at it, they also should remember that Palin came to the Tea Party long after the invitations went out. The woman knows where to hitch a wagon.

Unfortunately for the country, which is poised to lose its place as the world’s most-trusted treasury and suffer economic repercussions we can ill afford, the stakes in this political game are too high to be in the hands of Tea Partyers who mistakenly think they have a mandate. Their sweep in the 2010 election was the exclusive result of anti-Obama sentiment and the sense that the president, in creating a health-care plan instead of focusing on jobs, had overplayed his hand. Invariably, as political pendulums swing, the victors become the very thing they sought to defeat.

Who’s overplaying their hand now?

It must be said that the Tea Party has not been monolithic — and the true grass-roots shouldn’t be conflated with leaders who disastrously signed on to the so-called “Cut, Cap and Balance” pledge. What is it with Republicans and their silly pledges? Didn’t they get enough Scouting? This pledge now has them hog-tied to a promise they can’t keep — the balanced-budget amendment. As many as a third desperately want a pardon from that commitment, according to sources close to the action.

Hubris is no one’s friend, and irony is a nag. The Tea Partyers who wanted to oust Barack Obama have greatly enhanced his chances for reelection by undermining their own leader and damaging the country in the process. The debt ceiling may have been raised and the crisis averted by the time this column appears, but that event should not erase the memory of what transpired. The Tea Party was a movement that changed the conversation in Washington, but it has steeped too long and has become toxic.

It’s time to toss it out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-tea-fragger-party/2011/07/29/gIQA23pAiI_story.html?fb_ref=NetworkNews

orange
07-31-2011, 12:20 PM
Posted at 08:00 PM ET, 07/30/2011
Senate kills Boehner bill; House kills Reid bill
By Jennifer Rubin

When last we left the proceedings, the Boehner bill had squeaked by in the House. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid ( D-Nev.) then promptly moved to table it. And with the assistance of Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and other Senate conservative hard-liners, it was relegated to the dustbin by a 59-41 vote. Understand what happened: House Speaker John Boehner moved heaven and earth to accommodate the extreme right in both the House and Senate and his reward was 22 “no” votes from hard-line House members. DeMint (who helped sink the original Boehner debt-ceiling bill) along with Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and David Vitter (R-La.) voted with Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) to kill Boehner’s handiwork in a matter of hours.

As of this posting, Reid and the White House are trying to figure out, finally, what could get through the House.

There are two lessons here. Boehner in the future should not accommodate the most extreme right-wingers in his caucus. It doesn’t help to modify his positions since they will never play ball. Second, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), DeMint and their troops are entirely out of the action, and they have demonstrated that, when it comes down to it, they can’t move either body. If you want to have leverage you eventually have to be willing to say “yes.” I will say this: Notice how few senators joined with DeMint on this one. He didn’t drag with him, for example, Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), James Inhofe (R-Okla.) and Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), who had previously signed the pledge not to back any bill without passage of the balanced budget amendment. If the upshot of all this would be to weaken the hand of the obstructionists, Boehner’s effort would not have been in vain.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn

BucEyedPea
07-31-2011, 12:21 PM
That Opinion Piece is an insult to Eleanor Roosevelt, orange. Shame on you!

BucEyedPea
07-31-2011, 12:22 PM
“A woman is like a tea bag – you never know how strong she is until she gets into hot water.” ~ Eleanor Roosevelt, America's First Tea Bagger.

ClevelandBronco
07-31-2011, 12:52 PM
If the nation defaults on its financial obligations, the victory belongs to the Tea Party Republicans...

Repaired

RINGLEADER
07-31-2011, 01:04 PM
I don't really believe they're as close as they're making it sound and I have no confidence that Obama won't drop his tax demands into the negotiations at the last minute.

Chiefshrink
07-31-2011, 01:43 PM
This is all a "sham" IMO. There will be a deal and it will be status quo "spending and "f"ing the little people "We The People".

KILLER_CLOWN
07-31-2011, 01:49 PM
This is all a "sham" IMO. There will be a deal and it will be status quo "spending and "f"ing the little people "We The People".

Yup, an opinion based on the fact this is always what happens.

dirk digler
07-31-2011, 04:40 PM
So I stopped paying attention to this on Friday and now I see Obama and the Congressional leaders are close to a deal.

I hope this is the end of it. I just read the Dem leadership has signed off on this so hopefully Boehner can convince his friends to as well.

Chocolate Hog
07-31-2011, 05:07 PM
Does Orange get paid by Huffpo to spam other sites with it's drivel?

orange
07-31-2011, 05:15 PM
Does Orange get paid by Huffpo to spam other sites with it's drivel?

You're in the wrong thread. Or maybe you just can't read.


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Chocolate Hog
07-31-2011, 07:09 PM
Question still stands.

Chiefshrink
07-31-2011, 08:01 PM
I don't really believe they're as close as they're making it sound and I have no confidence that Obama won't drop his tax demands into the negotiations at the last minute.

You are absolutely correct:thumb: They are not close at dealing with the "real debt" but they are veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery close to the continuance of "shafting" "We The People" because McConnell and Boehner are in the back pockets of Wall Street(get a deal done you RINO Mofos or we lose billions on Wall Street).

Ace Gunner
08-01-2011, 11:41 AM
This is all a "sham" IMO. There will be a deal and it will be status quo "spending and "f"ing the little people "We The People".

ya, except you forgot about the victory parades. man o man :thumb:

Brock
08-01-2011, 11:54 AM
You are absolutely correct:thumb: They are not close at dealing with the "real debt" but they are veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery close to the continuance of "shafting" "We The People" because McConnell and Boehner are in the back pockets of Wall Street(get a deal done you RINO Mofos or we lose billions on Wall Street).

Yeah, your tea party heroes won't be any different once they get safely ensconced in the DC power structure.

ROYC75
08-01-2011, 11:58 AM
Does Orange get paid by Huffpo to spam other sites with it's drivel?

Orange is a Huff Po Mo Fo.

ClevelandBronco
08-01-2011, 12:40 PM
Yeah, your tea party heroes won't be any different once they get safely ensconced in the DC power structure.

That I can believe.