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Donger
08-05-2011, 07:13 AM
http://www.space.com/12543-mars-mystery-slopes-salt-water.html

Salt water could be running down some slopes of Mars every spring, researchers suggest.

Such a finding would suggest new directions to search for any life that still existed on the Red Planet.

Clusters of dark, narrow lines that periodically emerge and lengthen on slopes in the warmer regions suggest briny water on Mars might still be flowing in a few rare places on the planet's surface.

"This is water today, not in the past," study co-author Alfred McEwen, a planetary scientist at the University of Arizona, told SPACE.com. [Photos: The Search for Water on Mars]

A great deal of evidence on the Martian surface suggests the planet was wet and perhaps capable of supporting life in the past. Although frozen water has been detected near the surface in many middle-to-high latitudes, there has been no definitive evidence that liquid water still runs across its surface.

"Water today on Mars was suggested previously, but it's not clear if those claims withstood follow-up studies," McEwen added. "That may prove true with this case as well, but for now, this is the best candidate for water today on Mars."

The scientists discovered the strange lines after a University of Arizona student used a computer algorithm on pictures of the Martian surface taken by the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRise) on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. The algorithm was capable of identifying subtle changes on Mars over time. The images covered a variety of latitudes and span across approximately three Martian years.

The student, Lujendra Ojha, said in a statement: "I was baffled when I first saw those features in the images after I had run them through my algorithm. We soon realized they were different from slope streaks that had been observed before. These are highly seasonal, and we observed some of them had grown by more than 200 meters [650 feet] in a matter of just two Earth months." [FAQ: What the Possibility of Water on Mars Means]

These finger-like streaks extend down some slopes during the warmest months of the Martian year. They fade in winter, then re-emerge in the spring.

"What's most interesting to me is that it took so long to discover these details from images that were seen or acquired long ago but not examined in detail long ago," McEwen said. "It makes me wonder how many other things we're missing."

These features, called "recurring slope lineae," reach down steep slopes such as the rims of impact craters, usually on sides facing the equator. While they can be hundreds of feet long, they are only about 1.6 to 16 feet (0.5 to 5 meters) wide, much narrower than gullies seen in the past on Martian slopes.

The scientists detail their findings in the Aug. 5 issue of the journal Science.

Donger
08-05-2011, 07:13 AM
http://i.space.com/images/i/11377/i02/mars-water-signs-newton-crater-gullies-110804.jpg?1312483871

Lzen
08-05-2011, 07:27 AM
That is very cool. Yes, I'm a space geek.

DMAC
08-05-2011, 07:30 AM
If that is water, there may be more than microbes there.

Dave Lane
08-05-2011, 07:35 AM
We need to take some life that thrives here on earth and let it loose they see if it will grow.

Sofa King
08-05-2011, 08:04 AM
We need to take some life that thrives here on earth and let it loose they see if it will grow.

If our organisms are anything like humans, they'll kill anything that's currently living there, destroy that environment, and then spread all over the planet.


That being said, we should send up Musk Thistle.

Donger
08-05-2011, 08:05 AM
We need to take some life that thrives here on earth and let it loose they see if it will grow.

Broncos' fans?

Sofa King
08-05-2011, 08:09 AM
Broncos' fans?

I like where you're going with this.

Donger
08-05-2011, 08:10 AM
I like where you're going with this.

Just imagine the bumper stickers: "This is BRONCOS PLANET!!!"

Sofa King
08-05-2011, 08:26 AM
Just imagine the bumper stickers: "This is BRONCOS PLANET!!!"

TEBOW FOR PRESIDENT!

Frankie
08-05-2011, 09:57 AM
We all thank our resident scientist for providing today what was all over the news media YESTERDAY.

Donger
08-05-2011, 10:00 AM
We all thank our resident scientist for providing today what was all over the news media YESTERDAY.

LMAO

The butthurt is strong with this one.

Shox
08-05-2011, 10:01 AM
Gov't/scientific community "Mars Publicity" campaign begins. You will see many of these kind of things for the next several years to help justify the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars they are going to spend on our next space project.

Donger
08-05-2011, 10:03 AM
Gov't/scientific community "Mars Publicity" campaign begins. You will see many of these kind of things for the next several years to help justify the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars they are going to spend on our next space project.

:spock:

Rausch
08-05-2011, 10:05 AM
Gov't/scientific community "Mars Publicity" campaign begins. You will see many of these kind of things for the next several years to help justify the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars they are going to spend on our next space project.

You really have no connection to reality or knowledge of the current state of the space program.

4th and Long
08-05-2011, 10:18 AM
Donger,

I have a money making idea and I'm letting you, and any other of CPs "space geeks", in on the ground floor. We just need a little funding and we'll be rich!

NEW! MARS SALT WATER TAFFY!

Each piece contains your daily allowance of Martian iron and other important space minerals. Not only good, but good FOR YOU.

durtyrute
08-05-2011, 10:19 AM
http://www.space.com/12543-mars-mystery-slopes-salt-water.html

Salt water could be running down some slopes of Mars every spring, researchers suggest.

Such a finding would suggest new directions to search for any life that still existed on the Red Planet.

Clusters of dark, narrow lines that periodically emerge and lengthen on slopes in the warmer regions suggest briny water on Mars might still be flowing in a few rare places on the planet's surface.

"This is water today, not in the past," study co-author Alfred McEwen, a planetary scientist at the University of Arizona, told SPACE.com. [Photos: The Search for Water on Mars]

A great deal of evidence on the Martian surface suggests the planet was wet and perhaps capable of supporting life in the past. Although frozen water has been detected near the surface in many middle-to-high latitudes, there has been no definitive evidence that liquid water still runs across its surface.

"Water today on Mars was suggested previously, but it's not clear if those claims withstood follow-up studies," McEwen added. "That may prove true with this case as well, but for now, this is the best candidate for water today on Mars."

The scientists discovered the strange lines after a University of Arizona student used a computer algorithm on pictures of the Martian surface taken by the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRise) on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. The algorithm was capable of identifying subtle changes on Mars over time. The images covered a variety of latitudes and span across approximately three Martian years.

The student, Lujendra Ojha, said in a statement: "I was baffled when I first saw those features in the images after I had run them through my algorithm. We soon realized they were different from slope streaks that had been observed before. These are highly seasonal, and we observed some of them had grown by more than 200 meters [650 feet] in a matter of just two Earth months." [FAQ: What the Possibility of Water on Mars Means]

These finger-like streaks extend down some slopes during the warmest months of the Martian year. They fade in winter, then re-emerge in the spring.

"What's most interesting to me is that it took so long to discover these details from images that were seen or acquired long ago but not examined in detail long ago," McEwen said. "It makes me wonder how many other things we're missing."

These features, called "recurring slope lineae," reach down steep slopes such as the rims of impact craters, usually on sides facing the equator. While they can be hundreds of feet long, they are only about 1.6 to 16 feet (0.5 to 5 meters) wide, much narrower than gullies seen in the past on Martian slopes.

The scientists detail their findings in the Aug. 5 issue of the journal Science.

Wait.....so you mean there is a chance that there is life on another planet besides this one........


http://rlv.zcache.com/like_no_way_dude_tshirt-p2353481965923592883o2f_400.jpg

Rausch
08-05-2011, 10:22 AM
World is flat.

Deal...

Donger
08-05-2011, 10:41 AM
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Shox
08-05-2011, 10:51 AM
You really have no connection to reality or knowledge of the current state of the space program.

Let's see what do I know....
1. The last space shuttle mission was just completed
2. They announced the next big thing for NASA will be Mars
3. In order to get to Mars is will take BILLIONS
4. This country is in a financial disaster of historic proportions

and we get this.....Mars has running water.

I may not know much, but I know when the publicity machine is turned on.

Hydrae
08-05-2011, 10:54 AM
What makes them think it is salt water rather than fresh water?

Frankie
08-05-2011, 11:15 AM
What makes them think it is salt water rather than fresh water?

Because they saw whales and sharks and no Guppies.

Donger
08-05-2011, 11:18 AM
What makes them think it is salt water rather than fresh water?

We've known that there was salt on Mars for a couple of years, and fresh water would freeze at the temperatures they are talking about.

lcarus
08-05-2011, 12:20 PM
I believe space exploration is awesome and necessary, but I get the feeling we will never find anything resembling intelligent life unless they find us. Not in the next several generations anyway.

DMAC
08-05-2011, 12:22 PM
I believe space exploration is awesome and necessary, but I get the feeling we will never find anything resembling intelligent life unless they find us. Not in the next several generations anyway.

They already found us. They live among us/ they are us!

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/11982/1727160-asdasd_super.jpg

Saul Good
08-05-2011, 12:32 PM
We all thank our resident scientist for providing today what was all over the news media YESTERDAY.

Not every thread is as brilliant as yor thread about the dangers of planes crashing into fields at 36,000 feet.

Incidentally that crash was in the news on July 30th yet you posted it on July 31st. I'm sure the irony of this fact will not be lost on a man of your tremendous aptitude.

Frankie
08-06-2011, 10:16 AM
Not every thread is as brilliant as yor thread about the dangers of planes crashing into fields at 36,000 feet.

Incidentally that crash was in the news on July 30th yet you posted it on July 31st. I'm sure the irony of this fact will not be lost on a man of your tremendous aptitude.

Was minor news compared to this. This one was ALL OVER the news. Thanks for playing. You noticed I let it go but you HAD to post this. :rolleyes:

Hydrae
08-06-2011, 11:44 AM
We've known that there was salt on Mars for a couple of years, and fresh water would freeze at the temperatures they are talking about.

True, the temperature should have been obvious to me. :banghead:

petegz28
08-06-2011, 11:47 AM
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ChiefsNow
08-06-2011, 02:18 PM
What makes them think it is salt water rather than fresh water?

There were salt shakers laying around on the bank.

Spicy McHaggis
08-06-2011, 03:14 PM
They already found us. They live among us/ they are us!

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/11982/1727160-asdasd_super.jpg

I don't know why but I implicitly trust this man.

notorious
08-06-2011, 03:37 PM
We need to take some life that thrives here on earth and let it loose they see if it will grow.

How do you think humans came to be?


Aliens landed on a lifeless planet millions of years ago. One of the Aliens notice that he has zog shit on his boots, wipes it off on a rock. Microbes and bacteria start doing the wildthing.



Next thing you know, evolution kicks in and bam humans emerge.

BossChief
08-06-2011, 06:19 PM
We need to send a few hummers to Mars to start the global warming and melt that ice.
/al gore