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Count Zarth
08-05-2011, 09:54 PM
Apparently he's not 285, just a stronger 270.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/05/3059945/gilberry-aims-to-be-a-total-defender.html

ST. JOSEPH | Chiefs pass rusher Wallace Gilberry, visibly thicker after an offseason devoted to bulking up, said Friday that he had worked on reshaping his body so that he might someday be known as a complete defensive end.

“To be called a pass rusher in this league means a lot to me,” Gilberry said. “But at the same time, I want to be a defensive end. When I leave here, I want to be known as a defensive end.

Later, he said he wanted to “improve my whole game.”

Gilberry, a former undrafted free agent from Alabama, had seven sacks in 2010, when he was mostly used as a pass-rush specialist. Coach Todd Haley said Friday that specialists are nice, but players need to be versatile.

Haley said Gilberry weighs only two pounds more than last year, and he’s listed at 268 pounds, but Haley said Gilberry’s weight had been redistributed into more bulk, which could help him help stop the run and plug gaps instead of being relegated only to a pass-rushing role.

“He has been a rotational player for us,” Haley said, “and when you get into game-day roster numbers, that’s a very important factor. I don’t know that we can have just a pass-rush guy, that that’s all he does.”

After Friday morning’s walk-through, Gilberry said he was interested to see how he felt after the afternoon’s full-speed practice. He said he was eager to learn how it affected his speed and agility, which contributed to his ability to get after quarterbacks last year and trail only outside linebacker Tamba Hali in sacks.

Gilberry practiced for the first time Thursday afternoon. He had been unable to participate with the team earlier in camp in accordance with new collective-bargaining rules, which state that free agents couldn’t join team workouts before Aug. 4. Gilberry signed his restricted free-agent tender July 31.

A day after his first practice, he said that if he was sluggish through practices, he might have to shed the weight.

I may have to lose it; you never know,” he said. “I just came in prepared for whatever, so hopefully I can keep it on. But if not, I’m willing to lose it.”

Gilberry added that he hoped the pursuit of being a complete defender wouldn’t undercut what he does so well.

“Right now, I feel good. I feel comfortable,” he said. “But at the same time, that’s what I do. The reason why I’m here is because I’m good at rushing the passer, so I can’t forget that myself. I think I’ve got it under control.”

Veteran official talks about rule changes

Veteran NFL referee Ed Hochuli was at camp and discussed eight rule changes that go into effect this season.

The most noteworthy change might be that teams will no longer be allowed to intentionally commit a penalty, such as a false start, to buy more time to consider challenging officials’ ruling. Now, if teams commit a penalty directly after a play, they will be ineligible from a replay challenge on that play.

Also among the changes is a rule that prohibits illegal launching into a defenseless opponent and a rule that states that hits to quarterbacks’ heads by an opponent’s hands, arms or other parts of the body will not be fouls unless forcible contact is made.

Coaches try to balance number of snaps

Now that the Chiefs’ camp roster is full, Haley said a new challenge has emerged: Finding a way to get everyone enough snaps, instead of making certain that players aren’t practicing too much, as was the case when veteran free agents were unable to practice.

“Just trying to get the right balance,” Haley said. “It’s a better situation than what we were in. You can get short pretty quick. Now we’re … just balancing the reps and making sure you’re getting guys the work that they need and the work we need to see in order to make good evaluations.”

Direckshun
08-05-2011, 09:57 PM
Aw. Here I was, buying the hype that Gilberry had bulked up to 285 like he said.

Well. He's still money in obvious passing situations.

Count Zarth
08-05-2011, 09:58 PM
Did he actually say 285 or just that he had added 15 lbs of muscle?

Direckshun
08-05-2011, 09:59 PM
Besides, this paves the way for more Allen Bailey, all the time. Plus a little Brandon Bair doing the yeoman's work.

Direckshun
08-05-2011, 09:59 PM
Did he actually say 285 or just that he had added 15 lbs of muscle?

I can't recall the quote. I read it on AP I think.

BossChief
08-05-2011, 10:08 PM
I wonder if Jackson makes the 53 man roster.

He surely has to show that he has vastly improved in preseason, one would think, before he will have earned a spot on this roster.

Lots of young guys that have a button of potential.

When Gilberry said "when I leave, I want to be known as a defensive end" I didnt like it.

not

one

bit

keg in kc
08-05-2011, 10:10 PM
I wonder if Jackson makes the 53 man roster.As a 3rd year player? That's not even in question.

BossChief
08-05-2011, 10:10 PM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/7/27/2297395/wallace-gilberry-kansas-city-chiefs

said 285

wazu
08-05-2011, 10:12 PM
WTF is he talking about maybe "shedding the weight", then? Gonna slim down to 255?

BossChief
08-05-2011, 10:13 PM
As a 3rd year player? That's not even in question.

You dont think so?

I think if he shows no improvement in preseason, he has a serious chance at being cut/traded.

Lets no assume that just because its his third year on the DL that he WILL make the assumed jump.

Im not saying he likely will get cut, just that its a real possibility.

wazu
08-05-2011, 10:15 PM
You dont think so?

I think if he shows no improvement in preseason, he has a serious chance at being cut/traded.

Lets no assume that just because its his third year on the DL that he WILL make the assumed jump.

Im not saying he likely will get cut, just that its a real possibility.

He could be an unmitigated disaster. He still makes this team. He was Pioli's first draft pick. #3 overall.

milkman
08-05-2011, 10:17 PM
You dont think so?

I think if he shows no improvement in preseason, he has a serious chance at being cut/traded.

Lets no assume that just because its his third year on the DL that he WILL make the assumed jump.

Im not saying he likely will get cut, just that its a real possibility.

I think I have better chance of dunking on Dwight Howard than Ty Jackson getting cut this year.

keg in kc
08-05-2011, 10:17 PM
You dont think so?

I think if he shows no improvement in preseason, he has a serious chance at being cut/traded.

Lets no assume that just because its his third year on the DL that he WILL make the assumed jump.

Im not saying he likely will get cut, just that its a real possibility.I don't think there's much possibility of that at all. I would say the most likely scenario is that he'll be starting. Which I don't think would require any kind of a jump in his performance.

Count Zarth
08-05-2011, 10:20 PM
Direckshun, did you write that article about me?

BossChief
08-05-2011, 10:22 PM
I think I have better chance of dunking on Dwight Howard than Ty Jackson getting cut this year.

you bought some shape ups?

Count Zarth
08-05-2011, 10:24 PM
Tyson Jackson is not getting cut and Gilberry is not starting at DE, I don't care what his body fat/muscle ratio is.

All reports on Jackson have been positive BTW.

BossChief
08-05-2011, 10:26 PM
All reports on Jackson have been positive BTW.

thats good news for us.

I need to stop with the IF stuff, people get the wrong idea some times.

milkman
08-05-2011, 10:32 PM
you bought some shape ups?

Sure.

What are shape ups?

wazu
08-05-2011, 10:32 PM
All reports on Jackson have been positive BTW.

Good to know, I haven't heard any either way. Honestly I had already written him off as a bust. At this point for me if he pulls a turnaround and becomes a good player that will be unbelievably awesome.

listopencil
08-05-2011, 11:10 PM
The most noteworthy change might be that teams will no longer be allowed to intentionally commit a penalty, such as a false start, to buy more time to consider challenging officials’ ruling. Now, if teams commit a penalty directly after a play, they will be ineligible from a replay challenge on that play.

That is very interesting. Sounds like a good rule.

Also among the changes is a rule that prohibits illegal launching into a defenseless opponent and a rule that states that hits to quarterbacks’ heads by an opponent’s hands, arms or other parts of the body will not be fouls unless forcible contact is made.

I like this. Incidental contact shouldn't be a penalty.

whoman69
08-05-2011, 11:47 PM
I still don't understand why those who resigned with their same team have to wait to practice. There's going to be a ton of injuries this pre-season.

If Gilberry can spell the starters or even replace one, its a bonus. If he becomes a run stopper in the process, even better.

BossChief
08-05-2011, 11:53 PM
Sucks that this will likely be his last year in KC.

GordonGekko
08-06-2011, 12:14 AM
He just needs to worry about getting to the qb and making plays happen back there. The rest will fall in line

Count Zarth
08-06-2011, 12:18 AM
Sucks that this will likely be his last year in KC.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b7/fullj.f97fdf96778cdeabfd3769f7eadff4af/f97fdf96778cdeabfd3769f7eadff4af-getty-120184571.jpg

BossChief
08-06-2011, 12:21 AM
what a monster.

He is bigger than a lot of players that do have pads on.

Count Zarth
08-06-2011, 12:31 AM
what a monster.

He is bigger than a lot of players that do have pads on.

He makes these guys look like children:

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/caneswatch/files/2010/04/allenbailey.jpg

http://tommeltonscouting.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/allen-bailey.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/830/247/allen_bailey_video_feature_display_image.jpg?1301926687

I hope he pans out because this could be my biggest man crush OF ALL TIME!

BossChief
08-06-2011, 12:33 AM
I bet Vince McMahon has contacted him.

chiefzilla1501
08-06-2011, 05:44 AM
I really like Gilberry, but am beginning to think he may be better suited for a 4-3. He may have bulked up, but he's still too small to be an every-down 3-4 DE.

In KC, he's still a situational defensive player, but he became pretty damn good at it. I'd hate to see him go after this season, but I have a feeling there will be quite a few 4-3 defenses knocking on his door.