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Saul Good
08-10-2011, 08:05 PM
US military to launch fastest-ever plane

Unmanned Falcon Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2 can travel from London to Sydney in less than an hour


By the time you finish reading this sentence, the Falcon HTV-2, the fastest plane ever built, could have flown 18 miles. It would get from London to Sydney in less than an hour, while withstanding temperatures of almost 2,000C, hotter than the melting point of steel.

At 3pm BST on Thursday , the US Defence Advance Research Projects Agency will launch the Falcon Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2 on the back of a rocket from the Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. If all goes to plan, engineers will launch the Falcon HTV-2 to the edge of space, before detaching the plane and guiding it on a hypersonic flight that will reach speeds of 13,000mph (about 20 times the speed of sound) on its return to Earth.

The Falcon started life in 2003, part of a US military research project to build a plane that could reach (and potentially deliver bombs to) any part of the world in less than an hour.

The plane has been tested in computer models and wind tunnels, but they can only simulate speeds up to Mach 15 (11,400mph). A real test is the only way to determine if the plane will remain flying at high speeds.

Thursday's flight will also test the carbon composite materials designed to withstand the extreme temperatures the plane will experience on its skin and also the navigation systems that will control its trajectory as it moves at almost four miles per second.

The design and flight pattern of the plane has been tweaked since an aborted test flight in April last year. Nine minutes into that mission, which succeeded in flying for 139 seconds at Mach 22 (16,700mph), the onboard computer detected an anomaly and ordered the plane to ditch into the ocean for safety reasons.

Unlike most other rocket launches, this one will not be shown live online, though it will be possible to follow the plane's progress via tweets from @DARPA_News.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/10/us-military-fastest-plane-falcon

Saul Good
08-10-2011, 08:05 PM
Ho Lee Shit

Bowser
08-10-2011, 08:06 PM
Holy fuck. Nice to know they've perfected the impulse drive.

kepp
08-10-2011, 08:07 PM
Wow...mach 20

Saul Good
08-10-2011, 08:11 PM
Wow...mach 20

The demo got to 22.

Radar Chief
08-10-2011, 08:12 PM
Holy fuck. Nice to know they've perfected the impulse drive.

I was assuming Scramjet.

chefsos
08-10-2011, 08:12 PM
If all goes to plan, engineers will launch the Falcon HTV-2 to the edge of space, before detaching the plane and guiding it on a hypersonic flight that will reach speeds of 13,000mph Is that flying, or essentially falling really fast?

Pants
08-10-2011, 08:14 PM
Is that flying, or essentially falling really fast?

You can't fall that fast, silly!



Can you?

Bowser
08-10-2011, 08:15 PM
Is that flying, or essentially falling really fast?

Yes

CoMoChief
08-10-2011, 08:16 PM
pfffft......i could fly it. aint no thang....

Rain Man
08-10-2011, 08:16 PM
They're just doing that so they don't have to serve meals and movies on long flights. Cheap b*****ds.

chefsos
08-10-2011, 08:16 PM
You can't fall that fast, silly!



Can you?Guess not, technically. Terminal velocity and all. But it reads like they're kind of imitating a shuttle re-entry.

Radar Chief
08-10-2011, 08:17 PM
You can't fall that fast, silly!



Can you?

Unless a vehicle leaves the atmosphere and re-enters at a high rate of speed I don't think it's possible to just fall in excess of the speed of sound.

Detoxing
08-10-2011, 08:17 PM
Suck it China!

ChiefaRoo
08-10-2011, 08:19 PM
I appreciate the Chinese Navy for building so many new potential targets for all our new toys.

Saul Good
08-10-2011, 08:19 PM
You can't fall that fast, silly!



Can you?

Without wind resistance, I suppose so. A person can only fall at about 200 MPH on earth. I don't know how fast that thing could fall on earth, but it's nowhere near that speed. The impact of gravity would be almost negligible compared to mach 22.

chefsos
08-10-2011, 08:20 PM
Suck it China!Meh. We've been doing this for years./North Korean Information Minister

CrazyPhuD
08-10-2011, 08:21 PM
Bah Mach 22, it's still not going to catch Jamaal in the open field.

KcMizzou
08-10-2011, 08:32 PM
Just think. This is what they're willing to talk about publicly. Imagine the shit that's kept secret.

Bowser
08-10-2011, 08:34 PM
Just think. This is what they're willing to talk about publicly. Imagine the shit that's kept secret.

Heh, I've said that ever since I found out that the gubment kept the SR-71 under wraps for nearly 30 years before going public with it. I'm convinced they've perfected warp drive and are currently working on quantum torpedoes.

BIG K
08-10-2011, 08:49 PM
Suck it China!

This.

All the while China is or has moved into the number one or two spot of superpower status, (albeit 10 years ago they were third world). Great movement for the U.S. How many weeks before China launches their own bird that rivals ours?

Funny, China still receives money from Japan for their world war two horrific acts though they are on par if not surpassing our current military strength....My brothers and sisters....China is our next enemy...

Huffmeister
08-10-2011, 08:50 PM
Let's just hope it doesn't snap in half in mid-air. Could you imagine?

Pants
08-10-2011, 08:53 PM
I appreciate the Chinese Navy buying so many new potential targets from Ukraine for all our new toys.

FYP

keg in kc
08-10-2011, 08:57 PM
Just think. This is what they're willing to talk about publicly. Imagine the shit that's kept secret.We probably couldn't even wrap our brains around some of it.

CrazyPhuD
08-10-2011, 09:16 PM
Just think. This is what they're willing to talk about publicly. Imagine the shit that's kept secret.

The mach 22 plane they'll talk about....it's the mach 22 sub that's STFU

BigMeatballDave
08-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Terminal Velocity for a human is like 150mph.

Saul Good
08-10-2011, 09:31 PM
Terminal Velocity for a human is like 150mph.

Its about 120 for a belly flop and 200 for a toothpick.

BigMeatballDave
08-10-2011, 10:03 PM
Its about 120 for a belly flop and 200 for a toothpick.Yeah, I meant 150mph was average. :)

JoeyChuckles
08-10-2011, 10:04 PM
Why is a UK site reporting this? I want to know how fast it can travel LA to NYC. American distances, fool.

Lzen
08-10-2011, 10:31 PM
:thumb:Let's just hope it doesn't snap in half in mid-air. Could you imagine?

:LOL:

CrazyPhuD
08-10-2011, 10:34 PM
Why is a UK site reporting this? I want to know how fast it can travel LA to NYC. American distances, fool.

let's just say you'd spend more time in LA traffic getting to your hotel than you would in flying to LA from NYC.

DA_T_84
08-10-2011, 11:00 PM
Okay gang,

Just got word, this puppy will be handling the fly-over for our home opener. It's looking for a place to land in Leawood right now.

dtrain
08-10-2011, 11:07 PM
Picture

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/undated-artists-rendition-released-defense-advanced-research-projects-photo-145830466.html

listopencil
08-10-2011, 11:18 PM
It looks like an arrowhead.

listopencil
08-10-2011, 11:19 PM
One of you needs to use your photoshop skills to get the Chiefs logo on that pic.

bowener
08-10-2011, 11:45 PM
Picture

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/undated-artists-rendition-released-defense-advanced-research-projects-photo-145830466.html

It looks like the long rumored Aurora project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft)) airplane thingy that is supposed to be a super speed spy plane...

teedubya
08-10-2011, 11:50 PM
The US could bomb someone in less than an hour anywhere in the world. That is frightening and awesome simultaneously.

BigMeatballDave
08-10-2011, 11:51 PM
Imagine the jetlag this thing would cause.

BigMeatballDave
08-10-2011, 11:53 PM
You could fly from NYC to LA in 20min. It's almost like time travel. :)

|Zach|
08-10-2011, 11:55 PM
Zooooooom

listopencil
08-10-2011, 11:56 PM
You could fly from NYC to LA in 20min. It's almost like time travel. :)

That would be bad ass, except I really hate NY and LA.

Dave Lane
08-11-2011, 12:20 AM
Without wind resistance, I suppose so. A person can only fall at about 200 MPH on earth. I don't know how fast that thing could fall on earth, but it's nowhere near that speed. The impact of gravity would be almost negligible compared to mach 22.

Its wind resistance that cuts down human falling speeds. This thing has to have major aerodynamics but that speed would make it hit the ground long before mach 20.

listopencil
08-11-2011, 12:24 AM
Its wind resistance that cuts down human falling speeds. This thing has to have major aerodynamics but that speed would make it hit the ground long before mach 20.

NVM, found it.

T-post Tom
08-11-2011, 12:35 AM
That's quite the powertrain:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MkA-r1qpKu4/TdPAAvYdAkI/AAAAAAAAAq4/-KsEYwL_SHQ/s1600/hamster.jpg

Bambi
08-11-2011, 12:57 AM
One of you needs to use your photoshop skills to get the Chiefs logo on that pic.

can do a better one tomorrow

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5640/chiefjet.jpg

teedubya
08-11-2011, 01:34 AM
Just think. This is what they're willing to talk about publicly. Imagine the shit that's kept secret.

Yeah... imagine the shit that's kept secret. :evil:

beach tribe
08-11-2011, 01:39 AM
Guess not, technically. Terminal velocity and all. But it reads like they're kind of imitating a shuttle re-entry.

What I'm thinking is: this Rocket goes up from US, comes down over target so fast it cannot be shot down.
Zoom goes the dynamite!!

Saul Good
08-11-2011, 07:06 AM
Yeah... imagine the shit that's kept secret. :evil:

Yep. We could totally fly one of those things into our own skyscrapers and blame terrorists. Amirite?

Donger
08-11-2011, 07:27 AM
Heh, I've said that ever since I found out that the gubment kept the SR-71 under wraps for nearly 30 years before going public with it. I'm convinced they've perfected warp drive and are currently working on quantum torpedoes.

They didn't.

Warrior5
08-11-2011, 07:31 AM
can do a better one tomorrow

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5640/chiefjet.jpg

This brings up a separate topic: what's the Arrowhead "clip" going to be this season before kickoffs?

Never liked the "Transformers" thing... was hoping they'd do something with an Ironman theme (colors match). Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Sorry for the hijack...

griZZly64
08-11-2011, 08:16 AM
let's just say you'd spend more time in LA traffic getting to your hotel than you would in flying to LA from NYC.

That doesn't help. You'd spend more time in LA traffic than 99% of anything else you do in life.

The 405 aka World's Largest Parking Lot. You cannot drive on that thing without sayin F M LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tooge
08-11-2011, 08:45 AM
If I left my house at 8:29, I could be tailgating at 8:30. Pretty solid.

mlyonsd
08-11-2011, 08:49 AM
I wonder how many games it could do flyovers for during one national anthem.

Reerun_KC
08-11-2011, 08:50 AM
Falcon Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2 needs more carries

Donger
08-11-2011, 09:20 AM
The rocket that boosts the vehicle to altitude is the Minotaur IV. That's a decommissioned and converted Peacekeeper ICBM.

Pants
08-11-2011, 09:30 AM
DARPA only has 2 of these, I guess, and if this one falls into the ocean like the first one did, they will scrap the project? Sounds like a huge waste should it happen.

Donger
08-11-2011, 09:40 AM
DARPA only has 2 of these, I guess, and if this one falls into the ocean like the first one did, they will scrap the project? Sounds like a huge waste should it happen.

I wouldn't think that these were designed to land (gracefully).

Valiant
08-11-2011, 09:51 AM
This.

All the while China is or has moved into the number one or two spot of superpower status, (albeit 10 years ago they were third world). Great movement for the U.S. How many weeks before China launches their own bird that rivals ours?

Funny, China still receives money from Japan for their world war two horrific acts though they are on par if not surpassing our current military strength....My brothers and sisters....China is our next enemy...

China is still a ways behind us. Also they are to the level they have too much to lose US and vice versa. China will eventually become our biggest ally again.

Valiant
08-11-2011, 09:52 AM
Personally, they need to put a giant fist on the thing. For a falcon punch.

Saul Good
08-11-2011, 10:43 AM
The second one just launched. Going well and will land in the ocean.

Pants
08-11-2011, 10:46 AM
The second one just launched. Going well and will land in the ocean.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/A73.jpg

Bob Dole
08-11-2011, 10:47 AM
The second one just launched. Going well and will land in the ocean.

"LOS ANGELES (AP) The U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency says contact with its experimental hypersonic glider was lost after launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base on the central California coast."

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/US-hypersonic-glider-launched-contact-lost-1867549.php

Donger
08-11-2011, 10:54 AM
"LOS ANGELES (AP) The U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency says contact with its experimental hypersonic glider was lost after launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base on the central California coast."

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/US-hypersonic-glider-launched-contact-lost-1867549.php

LMAO

Sofa King
08-11-2011, 10:57 AM
"LOS ANGELES (AP) The U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency says contact with its experimental hypersonic glider was lost after launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base on the central California coast."

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/US-hypersonic-glider-launched-contact-lost-1867549.php

And there goes 800 billion trillion bagillion dollars down the drain.

4th and Long
08-11-2011, 11:24 AM
Bummer.

If the thing had a Chiefs logo on it, I might be a little more upset.

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/today-in-the-sky/2011/08/11/hypersonicx-large.jpg

Bob Dole
08-11-2011, 11:29 AM
Downrange assets did not reacquire tracking or telemetry. #HTV2 has an autonomous flight termination capability. More to follow.
4 minutes ago via web

keg in kc
08-11-2011, 11:32 AM
Aliens shot it down.

Donger
08-11-2011, 11:34 AM
Aliens shot it down.

HAARP, actually.

Rooster
08-11-2011, 11:35 AM
Aliens shot it down.

Freaking Mexico... :mad:

keg in kc
08-11-2011, 11:37 AM
HAARP, actually.Aliens took control of HAARP and shot it down, and the hyperdimensional resonance from the attack reached the central chamber of the great pyramid at giza, which activated the great sphinx, causing it to raise its left paw, revealing to the world the long-hidden Chamber of Knowledge prophesied by Edgar Cayse.

Rooster
08-11-2011, 11:37 AM
And there goes 800 billion trillion bagillion dollars down the drain.

It's cool. We're covered.

Donger
08-11-2011, 11:38 AM
Aliens took control of HAARP and shot it down, and the hyperdimensional resonance reached the central chamber of the great pyramid at giza, which activated the great sphinx, causing it to raise its left paw, revealing to the world the long-hidden Chamber of Knowledge prophesied by Edgar Cayse.

LMAO

4th and Long
08-11-2011, 11:39 AM
Aliens took control of HAARP and shot it down, and the hyperdimensional resonance from the attack reached the central chamber of the great pyramid at giza, which activated the great sphinx, causing it to raise its left paw, revealing to the world the long-hidden Chamber of Knowledge prophesied by Edgar Cayse.

:LOL: LMAO

That's rep, baby!

ChiefButthurt
08-11-2011, 11:44 AM
Just think. This is what they're willing to talk about publicly. Imagine the shit that's kept secret.

Many years ago the US hired an unnamed company to experiment "creating" and guiding hurricanes and tornados. The unnamed department in the government spent a bunch of money on the experiment. I guess they thought why not use weather to battle the commies?

vailpass
08-11-2011, 12:17 PM
Let's just hope it doesn't snap in half in mid-air. Could you imagine?

It took 22 posts before this came out? Planet I am dissapoint.

ROYC75
08-11-2011, 12:18 PM
It traveled so fast it out ran all communications, forever, Gone in The Wind!

ROYC75
08-11-2011, 12:22 PM
One must wonder, if the 1st one lost communications and crashed into the ocean,did they find the 1st one ? BTW,crashing into the ocean at what speed ? Any damage ?

If this one lost communications, will they be able to find it before the rest of the world does?

That is some serious speed, the heat it should put off would be great.

Easy 6
08-11-2011, 05:45 PM
Just think. This is what they're willing to talk about publicly. Imagine the shit that's kept secret.

Exactly, by the time the publics heard of something they're already field testing something better.

Its a double edged sword, but i'm a defense spending lover... if the US isnt #1 in technology, an uglier alternative will be.

MIAdragon
08-12-2011, 02:39 PM
oops, Houston we have a problem.

http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2011/08/12/ultrafast_unmanned_glider_flies_then_crashes_in_sea/

CrazyPhuD
08-12-2011, 02:50 PM
It crashed because it was made in china wasn't it?