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Count Zarth
08-13-2011, 11:45 PM
This year Gif'd Up rides in HD.

http://i53.tinypic.com/51re6f.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2n18a5x.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2zh2kav.jpg


Starting tomorrow we'll do the Bucs game. And per last year's request we'll have separate threads for each game so the threads don't get too gif heavy.

Anyway...everything is in HD this year. http://i52.tinypic.com/fcmio8.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/1588rgn.jpg

BossChief
08-13-2011, 11:49 PM
hell to the YEAH

Dave Lane
08-13-2011, 11:56 PM
I want to see some OL jailbreaks but that might be the whole game.

MoreLemonPledge
08-14-2011, 12:05 AM
DON'T LOOK A GIF HORSE IN THE MOUTH

No, really, I'm glad the GIF horse has returned.

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 12:09 AM
DON'T LOOK A GIF HORSE IN THE MOUTH

No, really, I'm glad the GIF horse has returned.

http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/horse/images/lg/05d_noh_stallion.jpg

cdcox
08-14-2011, 12:11 AM
Baldwin is going to be a beast.

Bowe 6-2, Baldwin 6-4, and Moeaki 6-3 is going to present some real match up problems.

ReynardMuldrake
08-14-2011, 12:13 AM
I can't lie... that shit gave me a chubby.

lcarus
08-14-2011, 12:17 AM
That wasn't a catch but it was one hell of an effort.

aturnis
08-14-2011, 12:26 AM
That wasn't a catch but it was one hell of an effort.

No, it most definitely WAS a catch. Just not at the point GoChiefs shows it to be. If he showed the rest of the view from the replay, the ball leaves his hands, goes to his feet, he pushes it back up to his hands with his legs and holds onto it. He was out of bounds when he finally controlled the ball. Great effort.

DA_T_84
08-14-2011, 12:34 AM
HD Bowneherzz

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 12:36 AM
No, it most definitely WAS a catch. Just not at the point GoChiefs shows it to be. If he showed the rest of the view from the replay, the ball leaves his hands, goes to his feet, he pushes it back up to his hands with his legs and holds onto it. He was out of bounds when he finally controlled the ball. Great effort.

This, for sure. The ball didn't touch the ground.

http://i52.tinypic.com/14wgdpt.jpg

morphius
08-14-2011, 12:39 AM
No, it most definitely WAS a catch. Just not at the point GoChiefs shows it to be. If he showed the rest of the view from the replay, the ball leaves his hands, goes to his feet, he pushes it back up to his hands with his legs and holds onto it. He was out of bounds when he finally controlled the ball. Great effort.
Yup, exactly. Would have been incomplete on review because of gaining control out of bounds, but it never touched the ground.

Valiant
08-14-2011, 12:42 AM
This, for sure. The ball didn't touch the ground.

http://i52.tinypic.com/14wgdpt.jpg

Other then he was out of bounds you are correct.. It was an amazing try and great concentration but he bobbled it on the way down and did not get control until his head and other parts of his body were out of bounds..

aturnis
08-14-2011, 12:49 AM
This, for sure. The ball didn't touch the ground.

http://i52.tinypic.com/14wgdpt.jpg

Awww yeah! We excited for this! Claythan, we don't need no stinkin' saddle! We gonna ride you hard bareback. CAN'T WAIT! /Bart Scott

MoreLemonPledge
08-14-2011, 12:53 AM
Awww yeah! We excited for this! Claythan, we don't need no stinkin' saddle! We gonna ride you hard bareback. CAN'T WAIT! /Bart Scott

This...?

keg in kc
08-14-2011, 12:55 AM
Multiple threads definitely wins.

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 12:59 AM
This...?

http://regardinghorses.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/lion-riding-horse.jpg

KcMizzou
08-14-2011, 12:59 AM
Other then he was out of bounds you are correct.. It was an amazing try and great concentration but he bobbled it on the way down and did not get control until his head and other parts of his body were out of bounds..Yep. That's incomplete. Great sign for when the games count, though. Gotta like this kid, from what little we've seen.

ReynardMuldrake
08-14-2011, 01:01 AM
http://regardinghorses.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/lion-riding-horse.jpg

You're predicting... the Lions over the Broncos in the Super Bowl?

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 01:03 AM
You're predicting... the Lions over the Broncos in the Super Bowl?

http://saucesome.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/lion-horse-180x180.jpg

KurtCobain
08-14-2011, 01:21 AM
That's a pissed off lazy lion.

Rausch
08-14-2011, 03:14 AM
Multiple threads definitely wins.

Cross-thread humor is a difficult thing...

Rudy lost the toss
08-14-2011, 03:34 AM
I want to see some OL jailbreaks but that might be the whole game.

Lewis and Harr on that safety was comical. They have no business getting snaps that early.

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 03:42 AM
Who is that tall man

http://i53.tinypic.com/im5xe8.jpg

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 03:59 AM
Is this heaven?

NO IT'S IOWA

http://i52.tinypic.com/16acnxx.jpg

Rausch
08-14-2011, 04:03 AM
Who is that tall man

http://i53.tinypic.com/im5xe8.jpg

I didn't get to see the game.

Did Gaither play?

If so, where?...

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 04:31 AM
No.

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 05:38 AM
Ass whip of the year in Week 1?

http://i51.tinypic.com/igjdxg.jpg

Hog Farmer
08-14-2011, 06:40 AM
Baldwin is going to be a beast.

Bowe 6-2, Baldwin 6-4, and Moeaki 6-3 is going to present some real match up problems.


You got that right!!!!! I'm totally stoked about our O now. If the Gaither signing turns out to be a homerun we are a force to be reckoned with.

JASONSAUTO
08-14-2011, 06:44 AM
Ass whip of the year in Week 1?

http://i51.tinypic.com/igjdxg.jpg

nice pass though.

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 06:44 AM
http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/powe.gif

POWNED

By The Fake Joe Posnanski

Josh Johnson took off running up the middle and Jerrell Powe was on the other side of the field.

But somehow, some way, Powe knew he had to catch him or Johnson was going to score.

Powe began to pump his massive legs.

Run, Powe, run!

Johnson hit the 20-yard line. Powe lagged far behind, but knew he had to catch him, or Johnson was going to score.

Powe huffed and puffed.

Run, Powe, run!

Johnson hit the 10-yard line. Powe was losing the race but knew, deep down, only he could catch Johnson.

Powe saw Johnson slow up, avoiding a tackle. He was now three yards behind, his heart pumping so fast it might burst out of his chest.

But now, there was no one between Johnson and the end zone. Powe would catch him, or die trying.

Johnson cut back, right into the path of the beast stalking him. Powe saw his chance, and seized the moment like a great big slab of brisket.

With one desperate lunge, Powe launched his 340 pounds through the air and slammed into the small of Johnson's back, sending him flying forward. The collision separated Johnson's head from his body - no, wait, that was just his helmet. Johnson's head was buried deep into the Arrowhead turf as, for a brief second, he disappeared under Powe's massive girth.

Powned.

Powe and Johnson, now melded into a single being through pure force of impact, skidded to a halt at the two-yard line. Practically the entire Bucs bench emptied onto the field, fearing that Jerrell Powe, now lying on top of Johnson, had just killed the quarterback-turned-pancake via human compression.

"OH MY GOD, JOSH, ARE YOU ALRIGHT?"

"JOSH? SAY SOMETHING, MAN!"

"JOSH, CAN I HAVE YOUR TV?"

And Josh Johnson got up looking like he had just mowed the lawn.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2mcwzuw.jpg

Three snaps later the Chiefs held on fourth and goal and the Buccaneers went into halftime completely deflated, their momentum destroyed! All because Jerrell Powe pumped his massive legs and huffed and puffed as he ran until his heart might burst, catching Johnson in a mad 20-yard dash to preseason immortality.

Because no one else was going to catch Josh Johnson.

Hog Farmer
08-14-2011, 06:49 AM
POWNED! Love it !

cabletech94
08-14-2011, 07:22 AM
http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/powe.gif

might be your best evah!!!

nice job.

i'm gonna go into work monday and powned someone. HARD.

Bugeater
08-14-2011, 07:57 AM
Ok, I admit I'm not a big Xs and Os guy, so can one of you who are explain to me how the fuck Powe ended up where he was in in the beginning of that last gif? I thought the NT's job was to clog up the middle to help stop the run. He looks like he just ran onto the field.

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 07:59 AM
He was detaching himself from blockers to go get the QB. Those two guys in front of him had been blocking him.

Bugeater
08-14-2011, 08:02 AM
Maybe I need to see the entire play to understand what was going on. Something just seems weird about it.

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 08:13 AM
Maybe I need to see the entire play to understand what was going on. Something just seems weird about it.

1. Bootleg to the right.

2. Powe is occupied by two blockers who push him off to the left.

3. Powe disengages once he sees it's a bootleg.

Mr. Flopnuts
08-14-2011, 08:15 AM
Holy fuck! Loving the HD, and loving watching fools get POWNED!

the Talking Can
08-14-2011, 08:23 AM
shouldn't it be 'powened'

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 08:30 AM
shouldn't it be 'powened'

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/pwit/HorseKick.gif

Mr. Flopnuts
08-14-2011, 08:31 AM
That sounds more like powe-ned.

cabletech94
08-14-2011, 09:39 AM
shouldn't it be 'powened'

truth be told, it could very well be seen as "denewop".

:doh!:

Al Bundy
08-14-2011, 09:42 AM
Your name change should have been to "GIFBronco"

ChiefsCountry
08-14-2011, 09:52 AM
Is this heaven?

NO IT'S IOWA

http://i52.tinypic.com/16acnxx.jpg

BossChief after seeing this picture
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/Mysteri0n/Randy_Marsh_covered_in_ectoplasm.jpg

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 09:57 AM
Your name change should have been to "GIFBronco"

http://www.omgfunnypictures.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/20110813/25526_tap-it-bro1.gif

BossChief
08-14-2011, 10:10 AM
Clayborn is gonna be a fucking animal and I bet that front 4 is the second best in football if Bowers medical issues dont prove to be as serious as thought.

aturnis
08-14-2011, 10:12 AM
http://i52.tinypic.com/16acnxx.jpg

Clayborn: "I missed you Tony".

Moeaki: "Missed you too Adrian".

Clayborn: "Wish I could be a Chief too...."

Count Zarth
08-14-2011, 10:16 AM
Clayborn is gonna be a fucking animal and I bet that front 4 is the second best in football if Bowers medical issues dont prove to be as serious as thought.

Was Clayborn kicking backup Chief ass Friday night?

BossChief
08-14-2011, 10:30 AM
Was Clayborn kicking backup Chief ass Friday night?

who wasnt?

That was one of the things I would have liked to have seen... Albert go against Clayborn.

In 2009, Adrian was every bit as dominant as Suh in college...last year, teams doubled him all year and schemed their offenses away from him and it lead to other Iowa DL getting drafted (Klug and Ballard) due to increased exposure and better matchups.

TBs DL of Bowers, McCoy, Price and Clayborn could be just as good as Detroits DL...but they also have injury issues that could make them never be able to play at full strength.

Frankie
08-14-2011, 11:23 AM
http://i53.tinypic.com/2n18a5x.jpg

What happened? They didn't give him the catch?

Smed1065
08-14-2011, 11:28 AM
What happened? They didn't give him the catch?

Helmet out of bound IIRC.

Frankie
08-14-2011, 11:39 AM
Helmet out of bound IIRC.

The Chiefs NEVER get the benefit of the doubt on any call! That's damned frustrating when you see the sh!t Denver and some other teams get away with all the time.

Al Bundy
08-14-2011, 11:45 AM
Clayborn: "Wish I could be a Chief too...."

Haha.. No.

BossChief
08-14-2011, 11:47 AM
The Chiefs NEVER get the benefit of the doubt on any call! That's damned frustrating when you see the sh!t Denver and some other teams get away with all the time.

It wasnt a catch by the description of what is a catch by NFL standards.

I dont understand why some are bitching about it.

If he had full possession of the ball when he went OOB, it would have been a catch...but he bumbled the ball and even though it never hit the ground...he didnt have full possession.

Frankie
08-14-2011, 11:55 AM
It wasnt a catch by the description of what is a catch by NFL standards.

I dont understand why some are bitching about it.

If he had full possession of the ball when he went OOB, it would have been a catch...but he bumbled the ball and even though it never hit the ground...he didnt have full possession.

My bitching is not really about the technicalities. It's about almost never getting a break. I have seen other teams like Denver and Indi get breaks from refs all the time on things like this. I realize I'm being a whiny homer, but it sure seems a lot like what I'm saying.

COchief
08-14-2011, 12:52 PM
In 2009, Adrian was every bit as dominant as Suh in college.

This might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on CP, and that is saying something. Suh in college looked like a HS senior playing against Jr high kids, plus he came out and DOMINATED NFL lineman as a rookie which is almost unheard of as a DT.

Your boy may be a decent player, but no one in probably the last 20 years can be compared to Suh.

/Non-Nebraska fan

aturnis
08-14-2011, 12:59 PM
This might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on CP, and that is saying something. Suh in college looked like a HS senior playing against Jr high kids, plus he came out and DOMINATED NFL lineman as a rookie which is almost unheard of as a DT.

Your boy may be a decent player, but no one in probably the last 20 years can be compared to Suh.

/Non-Nebraska fan

This.

BossChief
08-14-2011, 01:12 PM
This might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on CP, and that is saying something. Suh in college looked like a HS senior playing against Jr high kids, plus he came out and DOMINATED NFL lineman as a rookie which is almost unheard of as a DT.

Your boy may be a decent player, but no one in probably the last 20 years can be compared to Suh.

/Non-Nebraska fan2009

Suh had 24 tackles for loss and 12 sacks
Clayborn had 20 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks

yeah, the comment was obviously foolish.

Try not to comment on things you know NOTHING about.

You OBVIOUSLY didn't see a single game from Clayborns 2009 season.

DBOSHO
08-14-2011, 01:18 PM
Lets trade tyson for clayborn.

Al Bundy
08-14-2011, 01:31 PM
Lets trade tyson for clayborn.

Fuck off.

DBOSHO
08-14-2011, 01:52 PM
**** off.

o:-)

JoeyChuckles
08-14-2011, 01:53 PM
This thread is awesome. Now I just need the guy that posted the live streams last year to post those again. Anyone remember who that was?

DBOSHO
08-14-2011, 02:34 PM
Grandllama. Havent seen him in awhile, but most of those streaming sites were shut down.

rocknrolla
08-14-2011, 03:29 PM
This, for sure. The ball didn't touch the ground.

http://i52.tinypic.com/14wgdpt.jpg

God damn! His eyes never left the ball. NEVER gave up on it. He's gonna give Bowe a run for his money. I'm sooooooo impressed.

rocknrolla
08-14-2011, 03:38 PM
http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/powe.gif

"It's the ****ing Catalina wine mixer! POWE! POWE!

COchief
08-14-2011, 06:00 PM
2009

Suh had 24 tackles for loss and 12 sacks
Clayborn had 20 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks

yeah, the comment was obviously foolish.

Try not to comment on things you know NOTHING about.

You OBVIOUSLY didn't see a single game from Clayborns 2009 season.

In the 2000 NFL season Eric Hicks matched Jason Taylor for sack totals, obviously Hicks was just as good as Taylor right???

Your dumbshit player might be OK, but if he was even comparable to Suh in any way he wouldn't have made it out of the top 3 picks, nonetheless sitting around until the 20s. Stats don't tell every story, Suh was and is a man amongst boys.

BossChief
08-14-2011, 06:23 PM
In the 2000 NFL season Eric Hicks matched Jason Taylor for sack totals, obviously Hicks was just as good as Taylor right???

Your dumbshit player might be OK, but if he was even comparable to Suh in any way he wouldn't have made it out of the top 3 picks, nonetheless sitting around until the 20s. Stats don't tell every story, Suh was and is a man amongst boys.

I said that they had an equally as dominant 2009.

Nothing else.

keg in kc
08-14-2011, 09:07 PM
shouldn't it be 'powened'My thought exactly.

Direckshun
08-14-2011, 09:07 PM
I've never had more consecutive erections while my team gets blown out.

DaFace
08-14-2011, 09:09 PM
I've never had more consecutive erections while my team gets blown out.

ROFL

Count Zarth
08-15-2011, 09:32 AM
http://i53.tinypic.com/2qbzjex.jpg

Pestilence
08-15-2011, 09:39 AM
Houston on the other side of Hali is going to be awesome.

Chiefnj2
08-15-2011, 09:39 AM
Grandllama. Havent seen him in awhile, but most of those streaming sites were shut down.

Grandllama was a god last year. I hope he can keep up his good deeds this year.

Count Zarth
08-15-2011, 09:41 AM
Houston on the other side of Hali is going to be awesome.

Well, that's a backup OT he's toasting.

But still, that guy doesn't TOUCH Houston.

Pestilence
08-15-2011, 09:58 AM
Well, that's a backup OT he's toasting.

But still, that guy doesn't TOUCH Houston.

Well I don't expect him to throw up 14 sacks.....but he's got an awesome first step.

DJ's left nut
08-15-2011, 10:05 AM
Houston on the other side of Hali is going to be awesome.

Based on that clip? Not so much.

Terrible lean on that play to not be able to turn the corner. His first step was decent but he had his man beat badly and just didn't lean or get that outside foot planted to allow himself to finish the play.

That was, as near as I can tell, an almost completely useless attempt at rushing the passer. Sure, the tackle didn't touch him, but he didn't really have to either as Houston was running parallel to the play.

The only thing that made it not look completely embarrassing was the fact that the QB started from the gun. If that were a 3 step drop (or even a 5), Houston is probably never anywhere near him.

InChiefsHell
08-15-2011, 10:07 AM
I have high hopes for Houston of course...but that RT just totally sucked. Maybe Houston was just that fast, but that guy who was blocking him to me looked suckier than Houston looked good...if that makes sense...

Fish
08-15-2011, 10:22 AM
Based on that clip? Not so much.

Terrible lean on that play to not be able to turn the corner. His first step was decent but he had his man beat badly and just didn't lean or get that outside foot planted to allow himself to finish the play.

That was, as near as I can tell, an almost completely useless attempt at rushing the passer. Sure, the tackle didn't touch him, but he didn't really have to either as Houston was running parallel to the play.

The only thing that made it not look completely embarrassing was the fact that the QB started from the gun. If that were a 3 step drop (or even a 5), Houston is probably never anywhere near him.

That's what I'm thinking. He beat his man around the corner, but he took himself out of the play in doing so. And with no pressure coming up the middle, that didn't really affect anything.

Count Zarth
08-15-2011, 10:26 AM
That's what I'm thinking. He beat his man around the corner, but he took himself out of the play in doing so. And with no pressure coming up the middle, that didn't really affect anything.

The pressure affected the play for sure.

Shit, we had 1 guy who could beat an OT from the LB position this year....

DJ's left nut
08-15-2011, 10:28 AM
That's what I'm thinking. He beat his man around the corner, but he took himself out of the play in doing so. And with no pressure coming up the middle, that didn't really affect anything.

And that's the thing - the reason there was no pressure up the middle was he took a 5 step drop from the shotgun formation - the dude was 10 yards behind the LOS at the back of his drop so of course there isn't going to be much pressure up the middle.

Houston's job would've been to plant a foot, engage his blocker and try to drive him back to prevent that deep stop; with his momentum he could've done that. Or he could've actually shown the proper lean, made the turn and finished the play. Instead he did exactly what the line wanted him to, ran himself way the hell out of the play and let the QB step up into that massive hole in the middle that the 10 yard drop was designed to create.

Houston couldn't have made that any easier for TB had he just sat down at the snap - it was almost completely useless.

Fish
08-15-2011, 10:32 AM
And that's the thing - the reason there was no pressure up the middle was he took a 5 step drop from the shotgun formation - the dude was 10 yards behind the LOS at the back of his drop so of course there isn't going to be much pressure up the middle.

Houston's job would've been to plant a foot, engage his blocker and try to drive him back to prevent that deep stop; with his momentum he could've done that. Or he could've actually shown the proper lean, made the turn and finished the play. Instead he did exactly what the line wanted him to, ran himself way the hell out of the play and let the QB step up into that massive hole in the middle that the 10 yard drop was designed to create.

Houston couldn't have made that any easier for TB had he just sat down at the snap - it was almost completely useless.

Kawika Mitchell used to be the master at that....

Chiefnj2
08-15-2011, 10:39 AM
It looks like everyone on the DL does a a good job getting up field except for the NT. The RDE draws a double team, Bailey powers his guy back, and Houston should have had a sack if he dipped his shoulder.

DJ's left nut
08-15-2011, 10:45 AM
It looks like everyone on the DL does a a good job getting up field except for the NT. The RDE draws a double team, Bailey powers his guy back, and Houston should have had a sack if he dipped his shoulder.

That was Toribio and that was pathetic.

He immediately loses leverage and then gives his guy some garbage little 1-handed shove.

That was exactly the kind of play I'm talking about when I saw that this team absolutely slept through that game. They weren't at all ready to play physical football and it showed.

Haley's making a mistake here, IMO. These guys just aren't aggressive enough.

tooge
08-15-2011, 11:48 AM
http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/powe.gif

WRONG! It's mambulamse, not ambulance

JASONSAUTO
08-15-2011, 11:55 AM
That's what I'm thinking. He beat his man around the corner, but he took himself out of the play in doing so. And with no pressure coming up the middle, that didn't really affect anything.

the Qb had to pay attention to houston and step up,

doesnt that make a difference in the play?

Fish
08-15-2011, 12:06 PM
the Qb had to pay attention to houston and step up,

doesnt that make a difference in the play?

Whatever difference it made seemed pretty irrelevant. The QB felt the pressure, took a step up into a huge pocket, and formed a comfortable stance without so much as a glance at Houston. Eyes on the left side of the field the entire time.

Count Zarth
08-15-2011, 08:37 PM
Stanzi lovers unite.

http://i55.tinypic.com/10opj6t.jpg

BossChief
08-15-2011, 09:45 PM
Stanzi lovers unite.

http://i55.tinypic.com/10opj6t.jpg

Lets hope Cassel starts throwing fire like that this year.

"You cant expect him to make plays when hes under pressure like that. He had two guys in his face as soon as the ball was snapped. Look at who he was throwing to"

My favorite was when Stanzi was hit for a loss/no gain and he dumped it off while going down to Battle who took it 15 yards. Heads up play.

DJ's left nut
08-15-2011, 09:51 PM
Stanzi lovers unite.

http://i55.tinypic.com/10opj6t.jpg

Once again - it's really interesting to see how much easier it looks for Stanzi.

That's just a simple, calm little flip to get the ball about 30-35 yards downfield. He doesn't have a Farvian howitzer or anything, but those downfield throws he does make just look much easier for him than they do for Cassel. I really think that speaks well to his ability to make things happen when the pocket breaks down and his mechanics can't be perfect.

Cassel just looks strained to get the ball that far. Trent Green did as well, but at least Trent put the ball where it was supposed to be.

Stanzi just looks fairly effortless on those deeper balls.

BossChief
08-15-2011, 10:00 PM
You know what the best part of this is gonna be?

Cassel and Stanzi are gonna push each other to get better.

They are both competitors that are team players. If Ricky sees something he thinks can benefit Cassel, he will let him know...and vice versa.

DJ's left nut
08-15-2011, 10:02 PM
You know what the best part of this is gonna be?

Cassel and Stanzi are gonna push each other to get better.

They are both competitors that are team players. If Ricky sees something he thinks can benefit Cassel, he will let him know...and vice versa.

The respective ceilings aren't comparable, IMO.

Stanzi has both more physical ability and much more time to learn than Cassel.

If they push each other at the same rate, Stanzi will be the starter by September of 2013.

Count Zarth
08-15-2011, 10:09 PM
Stanzi looks SO MUCH like Croyle on that play it's scary.

keg in kc
08-15-2011, 10:14 PM
Stanzi's ceiling may well be higher than Cassel's but that still doesn't mean his ceiling is NFL starter calibre. Is he the next backup QB legend on the roster that half the fanbase falls in love with or the guy who gets his shot and then we're talking about replacing in 5 years or the next Jeff Smoker?

DJ's left nut
08-15-2011, 10:22 PM
Stanzi looks SO MUCH like Croyle on that play it's scary.

Much less panic.

Croyle wouldn't have stopped to set his feet. He'd have thrown it on the run, at 100 mph with no arc and it would've come in low enough for the safety to make a play on the ball.

That play shows some pretty polished footwork by Stanzi. He stopped as soon as he had space, stood tall and was able to get just enough of his lower body into that throw to put the proper arc on it.

If you honestly saw Croyle in that throw, it's because that's what you wanted to see. That wasn't at all how Croyle would've handled that situation.

Count Zarth
08-15-2011, 10:24 PM
Much less panic.

Croyle wouldn't have stopped to set his feet. He'd have thrown it on the run, at 100 mph with no arc and it would've come in low enough for the safety to make a play on the ball.

That play shows some pretty polished footwork by Stanzi. He stopped as soon as he had space, stood tall and was able to get just enough of his lower body into that throw to put the proper arc on it.

If you honestly saw Croyle in that throw, it's because that's what you wanted to see. That wasn't at all how Croyle would've handled that situation.

Good point.

If there were no rushers at all, that's how Brodie would throw it. :D

DJ's left nut
08-15-2011, 10:25 PM
Stanzi's ceiling may well be higher than Cassel's but that still doesn't mean his ceiling is NFL starter calibre. Is he the next backup QB legend on the roster that half the fanbase falls in love with or the guy who gets his shot and then we're talking about replacing in 5 years or the next Jeff Smoker?

I disagree.

Cassel's ceiling, as much as it pains me to admit, is a starting NFL quarterback. It's not an upper echelon one, but at the very least one of the top 30 quarterbacks in the NFL.

When things are comfortable, Cassel can make the throws. His problem is that he lacks the physical skills to make plays in the face of chaos; those times when he can't make his body do exactly what he needs it to do and raw athleticism takes over. As such, that makes him a potential starting quarterback, but a limited one.

If Stanzi's ceiling is higher than Cassel's (and I believe it is), then it's clearly starting caliber.

Time will tell.

keg in kc
08-15-2011, 10:28 PM
If Stanzi's ceiling was that high, he would have been drafted long before the fifth round.

aturnis
08-15-2011, 10:33 PM
It's b/c he's skinny and 13 almost looks like 12. period.

By the way. Why did Stanzi take 13 instead of his college #12?

Is it b/c the Chiefs didn't want to tip their hand that they weren't resigning Croyle?

b/c Pioli had had more than enough of the Stanzi/Brady comparisons and didn't think they needed to look just alike also, especially by the time Stanzi grew his hair back out?

or is it b/c Stanzi didn't want to be compared to Brady anymore?

BossChief
08-15-2011, 10:34 PM
If Stanzi's ceiling was that high, he would have been drafted long before the fifth round.

He made a lot of mistakes as a sophomore and junior at Iowa.

Count Zarth
08-15-2011, 10:35 PM
It's b/c he's skinny and 13 almost looks like 12. period.

Yeah, but I see something similar in the way they move their feet and their throwing motions.

Croyle had very quick feet. Looks like Stanzi has a bit more foot speed.

aturnis
08-15-2011, 10:35 PM
If Stanzi's ceiling was that high, he would have been drafted long before the fifth round.

Yeah, we shouldn't get excited about Powe either. He's a career backup at best...

DJ's left nut
08-15-2011, 10:35 PM
If Stanzi's ceiling was that high, he would have been drafted long before the fifth round.

Okay - educate me: Why isn't it?

Is Matt Cassel presently a starting caliber NFL quarterback? Personally, I would say yes, he is one of the best 30 QBs in the league, probably top 20 even.

Now, what is it in Stanzi's physical skill-set, background, work ethic and training that makes it impossible for him to reach the level of Matt Cassel?

Physically, he appears to be more gifted than Cassel. His arm is stronger and I'd say his body can easily carry the same weight as Cassel's with additional age/strength training.

Mentally, his intelligence has been seen as one of his stronger attributes and he's been lauded as a gym rat. Further, while his decisionmaking was knocked at times at Iowa, he was also considered to be a superlative leader and a guy that improved with every season under center. If put in an offense as vanilla as Cassel's, why couldn't he run it?

His training -- well hell, he actually has some. Cassel never played a down in college. Stanzi played in a very traditional, pro-style offense. There's no reason at all that a kid that's what, 6 years younger than Cassel who's been a 3 year starter at a major program can't develop every bit as much, if not more, polish than Matt Cassel.

So by all means - enlighten me. What exactly have you seen from Ricky Stanzi that says he can't reach Matt Cassel's level, if not exceed it.

Count Zarth
08-15-2011, 10:36 PM
So I guess this thread should be renamed Stanzi'd up because goddamn.

aturnis
08-15-2011, 10:39 PM
He made a lot of mistakes as a sophomore and junior at Iowa.

He played like Brett Favre those years. Not comparing him in any way to Favre except for the fact that he went out there and he started slingin'. Sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. He made PLENTY of mistakes, probably the ones Kegger has so well engrained in his memory, but he won a lot of games with his arm those years also.

I don't understand why Keg can't look at his Senior year TD/INT ratio and entertain the fact that he may have grown as a player. Obviously it was part of the plan, much like Cassel, to make more smart throws and not try to force anything. Still though, he proved he could do it.

KC Tattoo
08-15-2011, 10:41 PM
If Stanzi's ceiling was that high, he would have been drafted long before the fifth round.

Not true. Untill they play several seasons and shows what he is capable of he has plenty ceiling to get. Draft picks can have a high ceiling no matter what the round is. Called hard work and determination, having a good coaching can go a long ways too.

aturnis
08-15-2011, 10:46 PM
So by all means - enlighten me. What exactly have you seen from Ricky Stanzi that says he can't reach Matt Cassel's level, if not exceed it.

He's a Michigan fan. Just like RustShack hates him b/c he's a Iowa State fan.

keg in kc
08-15-2011, 11:32 PM
It doesn't have anything to do with being a Michigan fan or anything like that. I don't hate Stanzi and I hope he ultimately performs well beyond his perceived ceiling, because that would be of tremendous benefit to the team.

The fact is he's a 5th round pick. Despite the fact that he was a 3-year starter at in a major program in a BCS conference, despite having no red flags (that I'm aware of) in terms of character or work ethic, he fell all the way to the 5th. Why is that? Because he is not an elite quarterback prospect. It's really that simple. If he was, he'd have gone much earlier. And I'm not saying "you can't ever find a good QB anywhere but the first round." I'm just saying that if the NFL believed that his ceiling was truly high, he would have at least gone in the second or the third. And that means that the NFL saw his ceiling in the same light that I did, as somebody who'll probably have a good, long career as a #2 quarterback.

I am not saying he can't ever or won't ever be a starting quarterback in the NFL. I am simply saying that if he does, he'll be (grossly) outplaying his draft position. And that does happen. It certainly happened with Brady who I watched for years at Michigan. When he came out, even as a Michigan fan, I would have told you his ceiling was the same ballpark as Stanzi's: career backup, at the best. Because I couldn't ever envision the player I saw at Michigan turning into the quarterback who I'd call the best player of the last decade.

And that's where I am with Stanzi, I just don't see him as more than a backup in the long term. Maybe he exceeds my expectations.

It is fun to tweak you Stanzi homers a little, though. o:-)

But, honestly, I hope that 5 years from now all that "next Brady" garbage has turned out to be true, because that would be fan-freaking-tastic for the Chiefs.

I'm just not willing to bank on it.

keg in kc
08-15-2011, 11:40 PM
So I guess this thread should be renamed Stanzi'd up because goddamn.Sorry, sorry, I was having some fun pushing buttons. I'll behave now.

:fire:

Count Zarth
08-15-2011, 11:48 PM
Sorry, sorry, I was having some fun pushing buttons. I'll behave now.

:fire:

Hey, THEY started it.

But I'm trademarking that phrase.

Everytime a thread goes off on a Stangent...this shit got stanzi'd up :grr:

Frankie
08-16-2011, 12:07 AM
Lets hope Cassel starts throwing fire like that this year.

"You cant expect him to make plays when hes under pressure like that. He had two guys in his face as soon as the ball was snapped. Look at who he was throwing to"

My favorite was when Stanzi was hit for a loss/no gain and he dumped it off while going down to Battle who took it 15 yards. Heads up play.

Sure looks like he has a quicker release than Cassel.

Frankie
08-16-2011, 12:19 AM
If Stanzi's ceiling was that high, he would have been drafted long before the fifth round.

Talk to Mr. Brady about that, sir.

kysirsoze
08-16-2011, 01:25 AM
Talk to Mr. Brady about that, sir.

Way to read the thread. Also, way to pick one incredibly unlikely aberration and base an argument off it. Just a really solid post.

Frankie
08-16-2011, 12:52 PM
Way to read the thread. Also, way to pick one incredibly unlikely aberration and base an argument off it. Just a really solid post.

Incredibly unlikely?!

OK, then don't talk to Mr. Brady. Talk to Mr. Warner.

keg in kc
08-16-2011, 02:26 PM
Talk to Mr. Brady about that, sir.How about I talk to Jay Barker. Or Kevin Daft. Or Tee Martin. Or Mike McMahon. Or A.J. Feeley. Or Randy Fasani. Or Kurt Kittner. Or Brandon Doman. Or Craig Nall. Or Brian St. Pierre. Or Craig Krenzel. Or Dan Orlovsky. Or Adrian McPherson. Or Ingle Martin. Or Omar Jacobs. Or Jeff Rowe. Or Troy Smith. Or John David Booty. Or Dennis Dixon.

loochy
08-16-2011, 02:31 PM
What capture card are you using? Did you end up getting the Colossus?

Count Zarth
08-16-2011, 02:37 PM
What capture card are you using? Did you end up getting the Colossus?

No, I got the Avermedia HD DVR. It captures in more flexible formats. And it was $50 cheaper.

vailpass
08-16-2011, 02:39 PM
No, I got the Avermedia HD DVR. It captures in more flexible formats. And it was $50 cheaper.

How much was your license to reproduce these NFL properties?

loochy
08-16-2011, 02:40 PM
How much was your license to reproduce these NFL properties?

:facepalm: A billion dollars

Brock
08-16-2011, 02:41 PM
Incredibly unlikely?!

OK, then don't talk to Mr. Brady. Talk to Mr. Warner.

Talk to a lottery winner about how he knew all along he'd end up a millionaire.

Molitoth
08-16-2011, 02:42 PM
How much was your license to reproduce these NFL properties?

Party Pooper.

vailpass
08-16-2011, 02:50 PM
Party Pooper.

My name is Jacob Stein. I'm from the American Federation of Music. I've been sent to see if you gentlemen are carrying your permits.

Frankie
08-16-2011, 03:57 PM
How about I talk to Jay Barker. Or Kevin Daft. Or Tee Martin. Or Mike McMahon. Or A.J. Feeley. Or Randy Fasani. Or Kurt Kittner. Or Brandon Doman. Or Craig Nall. Or Brian St. Pierre. Or Craig Krenzel. Or Dan Orlovsky. Or Adrian McPherson. Or Ingle Martin. Or Omar Jacobs. Or Jeff Rowe. Or Troy Smith. Or John David Booty. Or Dennis Dixon.

How about Trent Green? :D

You are arguing that since some late rounders never amounted to anything then Stanzi has no chance.

I say some players are late rounders legitimately because of their talent limitations. On the other side of the coin there are those who are not yet NFL ready in their development when they come up for draft. A couple of more years of development under good coaching may turn them into a first rounder's value.

Who knows if Stanzi is not one of those?

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-17-2011, 02:42 PM
This is awesome, Clay. You are The Man.

Now; gimmie as much pre season Stanzi as you can, please. :D

InChiefsHell
08-17-2011, 02:52 PM
My name is Jacob Stein. I'm from the American Federation of Music. I've been sent to see if you gentlemen are carrying your permits.

Nice. REP.

vailpass
08-17-2011, 03:26 PM
Nice. REP.

Lead singer, and driver of the Winnebago.

milkman
08-17-2011, 03:39 PM
That was Toribio and that was pathetic.

He immediately loses leverage and then gives his guy some garbage little 1-handed shove.

That was exactly the kind of play I'm talking about when I saw that this team absolutely slept through that game. They weren't at all ready to play physical football and it showed.

Haley's making a mistake here, IMO. These guys just aren't aggressive enough.

JFC, you're pointing to guy (Toribio) who played exactly the same damn way last year in the regular season when he got snaps to prove a non existent point?

Blick
08-17-2011, 03:47 PM
And that's the thing - the reason there was no pressure up the middle was he took a 5 step drop from the shotgun formation - the dude was 10 yards behind the LOS at the back of his drop so of course there isn't going to be much pressure up the middle.

Houston's job would've been to plant a foot, engage his blocker and try to drive him back to prevent that deep stop; with his momentum he could've done that. Or he could've actually shown the proper lean, made the turn and finished the play. Instead he did exactly what the line wanted him to, ran himself way the hell out of the play and let the QB step up into that massive hole in the middle that the 10 yard drop was designed to create.

Houston couldn't have made that any easier for TB had he just sat down at the snap - it was almost completely useless.

:spock:

So useless that he hit the QB and forced the throw to be off.

I get what you're saying though. He'll learn that he can't just run around NFL tackles.

milkman
08-17-2011, 03:50 PM
How about Trent Green? :D

You are arguing that since some late rounders never amounted to anything then Stanzi has no chance.

I say some players are late rounders legitimately because of their talent limitations. On the other side of the coin there are those who are not yet NFL ready in their development when they come up for draft. A couple of more years of development under good coaching may turn them into a first rounder's value.

Who knows if Stanzi is not one of those?

That isn't what he's arguing at all.

Count Zarth
08-17-2011, 03:57 PM
Stanzi lovers, gather 'round, gather 'round

http://i55.tinypic.com/np1hdc.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-17-2011, 04:09 PM
Stanzi lovers, gather 'round, gather 'round

http://i55.tinypic.com/np1hdc.jpg

You will notice the lack of "IEEEEEEEE!!! SHITMYPANTS-SHITMYPANTS"(!)-in that beautiful display of evasion.

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-17-2011, 04:09 PM
Oh, and REP.

DJ's left nut
08-17-2011, 04:11 PM
JFC, you're pointing to guy (Toribio) who played exactly the same damn way last year in the regular season when he got snaps to prove a non existent point?

If you honestly believe that the Chiefs played with the same level of effort and intensity as the bucs, I'm not going to convince you otherwise.

I simply don't see how one can take that position given what we witnessed.

keg in kc
08-17-2011, 04:12 PM
You are arguing that since some late rounders never amounted to anything then Stanzi has no chance. Not at all, I'm simply arguing that the odds historically are very, very far against Stanzi. But not impossible. And I in fact really, really want him to succeed, I just don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he will based on two weeks of camp and a quarter-and-a-half of preseason football against (and with, out of fairness) players who for the most part won't ever be regular-down contributors on an NFL team, a quarter-and-a-half where we were not able to actually ascertain anything other than he's able to run away from endless waves of pressure. Which is nice, by the way, but doesn't mean he can actually operate (much less excel in the operation of) an NFL offense.

Which I know is blasphemy in the face of people who believe he's the second coming of Joe Montanamath.

In any case, if you want to keep bringing up the 2 or 3 players who are the exception to the rule, I think it's wise to also bring up the other 99% of that equation. Neither outcome is guaranteed, and I think it's good to be aware of them both. But I'm admittedly a fan of realistic expectations.

DJ's left nut
08-17-2011, 04:14 PM
:spock:

So useless that he hit the QB and forced the throw to be off.

I get what you're saying though. He'll learn that he can't just run around NFL tackles.

Quarterbacks get that kind of contact on 1/2 the plays they run - it was, at best, nominally disruptive. Football is a game of chaos, a base level amount of contact and disruption is expected on any given play - that barely exceeded said base level.

Color me unimpressed by the play.

DJ's left nut
08-17-2011, 04:15 PM
Not at all, I'm simply arguing that the odds historically are very, very far against Stanzi. But not impossible.

Which I know is blasphemy in the face of people who believe he's the second coming of Joe Montanamath.

Second coming?

They were merely prophets to the coming of Stanzi.

Joe Montana. Johnny Unitas. Joe Namath. John the Baptist - they all have first names that start with J. Coincidence? Hardly.

BossChief
08-17-2011, 05:32 PM
Stanzi lovers, gather 'round, gather 'round

http://i55.tinypic.com/np1hdc.jpg

The best part of that gif. was when he was still in the grasp of the defender, but was fighting it off...his eyes almost NEVER came off his receivers.

Lets hope Cassel learns things from the rook, if he is to take the next step.

"see, Matt...look at how Stanzi does that"

these two are make each other better through competition.

milkman
08-17-2011, 05:36 PM
The best part of that gif. was when he was still in the grasp of the defender, but was fighting it off...his eyes almost NEVER came off his receivers.

Lets hope Cassel learns things from the rook, if he is to take the next step.

"see, Matt...look at how Stanzi does that"

these two are make each other better through competition.

The one thing that Stanzi did that he could've done differently was on the attempted fourth down conversion.

He had the room when he broke containment to get the necessary yardage with his legs, but he threw to a tightly covered receiver.

In that situation, you take the sure thing.

BossChief
08-17-2011, 06:09 PM
The one thing that Stanzi did that he could've done differently was on the attempted fourth down conversion.

He had the room when he broke containment to get the necessary yardage with his legs, but he threw to a tightly covered receiver.

In that situation, you take the sure thing.

Totally agree, that play was a bit frustrating.

There are positives and negatives from that situation, though.

The good: it shows he is focused on his receivers and not so much on the rush....the more he does that, the more he will grow as a passer and that is what will help him win games in this league.

The bad: he should have been aware enough to just angle himself out of bounds to avoid a hit while picking up the first down and extending the drive.

Those are the types of things Zorn will focus on to make he and Cassel better players.

JoeyChuckles
08-17-2011, 06:34 PM
How about I talk to Jay Barker. Or Kevin Daft. Or Tee Martin. Or Mike McMahon. Or A.J. Feeley. Or Randy Fasani. Or Kurt Kittner. Or Brandon Doman. Or Craig Nall. Or Brian St. Pierre. Or Craig Krenzel. Or Dan Orlovsky. Or Adrian McPherson. Or Ingle Martin. Or Omar Jacobs. Or Jeff Rowe. Or Troy Smith. Or John David Booty. Or Dennis Dixon.

LOL at John David Booty.

He sounds like a gay pirate.

Blick
08-17-2011, 07:04 PM
Quarterbacks get that kind of contact on 1/2 the plays they run - it was, at best, nominally disruptive. Football is a game of chaos, a base level amount of contact and disruption is expected on any given play - that barely exceeded said base level.

Color me unimpressed by the play.

You couldn't even see the end of the hit to see how disruptive it was, but ok.

The throw going out of bounds tells you that it was disruptive enough.

Rudy lost the toss
08-17-2011, 07:58 PM
The one thing that Stanzi did that he could've done differently was on the attempted fourth down conversion.

He had the room when he broke containment to get the necessary yardage with his legs, but he threw to a tightly covered receiver.

In that situation, you take the sure thing.

I believe on a play or two before he took a sack when he could have easily thrown it away. Frustrating because he avoided a sack earlier in the play and managed to scramble towards the sideline

Count Zarth
08-18-2011, 09:01 AM
FAIL on Studebaker. Berry cleaned it up.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2h86d5y.jpg

the Talking Can
08-18-2011, 09:07 AM
The best part of that gif. was when he was still in the grasp of the defender, but was fighting it off...his eyes almost NEVER came off his receivers.

Lets hope Cassel learns things from the rook, if he is to take the next step.

"see, Matt...look at how Stanzi does that"

these two are make each other better through competition.

you can't see his eyes in the clip...or the receivers

BigCatDaddy
08-18-2011, 09:21 AM
you can't see his eyes in the clip...or the receivers

May God have mercy on your soul.

rocknrolla
08-18-2011, 09:22 AM
Stanzi lovers, gather 'round, gather 'round

http://i55.tinypic.com/np1hdc.jpg

He gives me the most hope for a franchise QB I have ever seen with this team. JIMP!

Omaha
08-18-2011, 09:22 AM
It wasnt a catch by the description of what is a catch by NFL standards.

I dont understand why some are bitching about it.

If he had full possession of the ball when he went OOB, it would have been a catch...but he bumbled the ball and even though it never hit the ground...he didnt have full possession.

This. It wasn't even close. Great effort, but he was clearly OB when he finally caught it.

DJ's left nut
08-18-2011, 09:25 AM
FAIL on Studebaker. Berry cleaned it up.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2h86d5y.jpg

In fairness to Stude, you couldn't find a worse matchup for him than Blount and you probably couldn't find a worse spot for him to be in than head up to a FB, then trying to take on a power runner.

Stude's just not a real big guy. He's going to have a difficult time with those power runs directly at him, and he's going to have a really difficult time with running backs that pack the punch that Blount has.

I think we'll be pleased with him in run support against guys like McFadden or Moreno, but power backs like Blount are going to give him fits, especially if they're tucked behind a fullback and running right at him.

Frankie
08-18-2011, 10:04 AM
He gives me the most hope for a franchise QB I have ever seen with this team. JIMP!

If he ever becomes the franchise QB, we have to do something about that first name. Suggestions?

Frankie
08-18-2011, 10:07 AM
This. It wasn't even close. Great effort, but he was clearly OB when he finally caught it.

I have since watched the 2nd half of the game and I now agree it was NOT a catch. Great effort though. One of these days a catch like that in a real game might just win us that game. Looks like the guy is for real.

Los Pollos Hermanos
08-18-2011, 10:09 AM
Stanzi lovers, gather 'round, gather 'round

http://i55.tinypic.com/np1hdc.jpg

Ricky fights like a switchblade so no one can take him down.

BigCatDaddy
08-18-2011, 10:11 AM
If he ever becomes the franchise QB, we have to do something about that first name. Suggestions?

What's wrong with his name, Frankie?

Frankie
08-18-2011, 01:18 PM
What's wrong with his name, Frankie?

Ricky 'gee-me-fie-minutes-to-splain' is just not a tough version of Richard.

My comment was tongue-in-cheek, anyway.

aturnis
08-18-2011, 01:31 PM
Ricky 'gee-me-fie-minutes-to-splain' is just not a tough version of Richard.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l56cqqmM2d1qcbtgpo1_100.gif

Why don't you say it to my face?

tooge
08-18-2011, 01:39 PM
Ricky 'gee-me-fie-minutes-to-splain' is just not a tough version of Richard.

My comment was tongue-in-cheek, anyway.

Frankie is not a tough version of Frank. It's sort of like Francis. :)

MOhillbilly
08-18-2011, 01:42 PM
Frankie is not a tough version of Frank. It's sort of like Francis. :)

now hes gonna keeelllll youuuuu.

BigCatDaddy
08-18-2011, 01:44 PM
Ricky 'gee-me-fie-minutes-to-splain' is just not a tough version of Richard.

My comment was tongue-in-cheek, anyway.

Is Rick tough enough for you?

Detoxing
08-18-2011, 01:45 PM
Ricky 'gee-me-fie-minutes-to-splain' is just not a tough version of Richard.

My comment was tongue-in-cheek, anyway.

We could just call him Dick.

Take it old school, ya know.

Dick Stanzi.

Now that's bad ass.

Dick Stanzi, a real American Hero.

Sofa King
08-18-2011, 01:56 PM
We could just call him Dick.

Take it old school, ya know.

Dick Stanzi.

Now that's bad ass.

Dick Stanzi, a real American Hero.

Actually, that is pretty badass.

DJ's left nut
08-18-2011, 01:58 PM
Actually, that is pretty badass.

Seconded.

I don't see how this can possibly fail to stick.

Direckshun
08-18-2011, 02:02 PM
In fairness to Stude, you couldn't find a worse matchup for him than Blount and you probably couldn't find a worse spot for him to be in than head up to a FB, then trying to take on a power runner.

Stude's just not a real big guy. He's going to have a difficult time with those power runs directly at him, and he's going to have a really difficult time with running backs that pack the punch that Blount has.

I think we'll be pleased with him in run support against guys like McFadden or Moreno, but power backs like Blount are going to give him fits, especially if they're tucked behind a fullback and running right at him.

I love the gif, but I think the real fail is on Anthony Toribio and Dion Gales here.

Stude stands up the FB and makes Blount dance, almost bringing him in. Jackson commands a double team and floats out to clog up the space out where Blount is running. Williams darts around TJax's left shoulder instead of dodging inside. If Williams darts inside, it forces Blount to go farther out where either Jax can corral him in or Berry can force him out for close to no gain. So between Stude, Jax, and Williams, this play is pretty well covered, especially since Berry can pretty much do everything.

But if you watch the gif, Toribio and Gales are getting destroyed on the LOS, when if they had played it like Jax, Blount would truly have nowhere to go.

It's hard to blame Gales because he starts the play on the other side, but Toribio definitely should have been there.

But how much did Blount gain here? Basically nothing.

Direckshun
08-18-2011, 02:04 PM
By the way, that play is the prime example of why people like me say Jax is going to be good.

Jax got the worst OL assignment of the play, both the RT and the RG, your run blocking specialists, double-teaming him. Meanwhile Gales and Toribio are getting blown up.

Jax handles the double-team with aplomb, even gets all the way out to the edge, occupying both blockers the entire time without giving up yardage.

And it literally frees up Williams to get to Blount and force him inside.

This is how two-gap is played, and Jax gets an A+.

DJ's left nut
08-18-2011, 02:09 PM
I love the gif, but I think the real fail is on Anthony Toribio and Dion Gales here.

Stude stands up the FB and makes Blount dance, almost bringing him in. Jackson commands a double team and floats out to clog up the space out where Blount is running. Williams darts around TJax's left shoulder instead of dodging inside. If Williams darts inside, it forces Blount to go farther out where either Jax can corral him in or Berry can force him out for close to no gain. So between Stude, Jax, and Williams, this play is pretty well covered, especially since Berry can pretty much do everything.

But if you watch the gif, Toribio and Gales are getting destroyed on the LOS, when if they had played it like Jax, Blount would truly have nowhere to go.

It's hard to blame Gales because he starts the play on the other side, but Toribio definitely should have been there.

But how much did Blount gain here? Basically nothing.

Toribio gets destroyed virtually every snap he takes.

I can't believe how awful that guy is.

Detoxing
08-18-2011, 02:10 PM
Toribio gets destroyed virtually every snap he takes.

I can't believe how awful that guy is.

Good. Won't be long till Powe is 2nd on the depth chart.

Direckshun
08-18-2011, 02:11 PM
Toribio gets destroyed virtually every snap he takes.

I can't believe how awful that guy is.

He is pretty fucking horrendous.

If Kelly Gregg wasn't 85 years old, I'd cut his ass. But Gregg's advanced age basically demands two backup nose tackles.

Frankie
08-18-2011, 02:46 PM
Frankie is not a tough version of Frank. It's sort of like Francis. :)

Yeah but I'm not aspiring to QB the Chiefs.

Frankie
08-18-2011, 02:48 PM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l56cqqmM2d1qcbtgpo1_100.gif

Why don't you say it to my face?

Out your face on the screen, AND I WILL!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DwIlqHiVmvE/ScLi8uOLXMI/AAAAAAAAAGs/nmcnP0gLqvM/s400/fool.jpg

:D

Frankie
08-18-2011, 02:50 PM
now hes gonna keeelllll youuuuu.



I weel keeck heem first.LMAO

Frankie
08-18-2011, 02:50 PM
Is Rick tough enough for you?

Better. Rich maybe?

the Talking Can
08-18-2011, 02:59 PM
We could just call him Dick.

Take it old school, ya know.

Dick Stanzi.

Now that's bad ass.

Dick Stanzi, a real American Hero.



yes

talastan
08-18-2011, 03:02 PM
Dick has my vote of approval! :thumb:

"Don't mess with Dick and his Stanzi City Chiefs!!" / Mitch Holtus.

Count Zarth
08-18-2011, 03:03 PM
We could just call him Dick.

Take it old school, ya know.

Dick Stanzi.

Now that's bad ass.

Dick Stanzi, a real American Hero.

http://i51.tinypic.com/ab2q1j.jpg

Count Zarth
08-18-2011, 03:04 PM
But how much did Blount gain here? Basically nothing.

About 4.5 yards.

DJ's left nut
08-18-2011, 03:09 PM
Dick has my vote of approval! :thumb:

"Don't mess with Dick and his Stanzi City Chiefs!!" / Mitch Holtus.

Dick doesn't work on it's own.

It has to be Dick Stanzi.

Dickstanzi even.

I think Detoxing needs to lay claim to it in his signature; it's the CP version of a copyright.

Count Zarth
08-18-2011, 03:14 PM
This happens every time Dick Stanzi drops back to pass:

<iframe width="600" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/pV1cttqcofo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DJ's left nut
08-18-2011, 03:19 PM
This happens every time Dick Stanzi drops back to pass:
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r1/705ezi/jimp.gif

FYP.

BossChief
08-18-2011, 05:55 PM
you can't see his eyes in the clip...or the receivers

you dont need to

just look at the direction his facemask is pointed before the pressure and then where it goes back to the second he is able to gain his feet.

His is clearly seeing if the receiver he was targeting before the pressure had broken open.

no question

DA_T_84
08-18-2011, 05:59 PM
you dont need to

just look at the direction his facemask is pointed before the pressure and then where it goes back to the second he is able to gain his feet.

His is clearly seeing if the receiver he was targeting before the pressure had broken open.

no question

Did you prosecute Casey Anthony?

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 01:42 PM
look at that tankass burrow

http://i51.tinypic.com/msg9kw.jpg

DJ's left nut
08-19-2011, 01:50 PM
look at that tankass burrow

http://i51.tinypic.com/msg9kw.jpg

Holy crap - that was pretty awesome.

They singled him and he absolutely blasted the center of the line.

That is very very good to see.

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 01:51 PM
MOAR

http://i53.tinypic.com/27yn43k.jpg

the Talking Can
08-19-2011, 01:52 PM
you dont need to

just look at the direction his facemask is pointed before the pressure and then where it goes back to the second he is able to gain his feet.

His is clearly seeing if the receiver he was targeting before the pressure had broken open.

no question

that's made up nonsense

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 01:56 PM
This one's nice. Classic NT play.

http://i53.tinypic.com/14v5xdx.jpg

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 01:59 PM
lol

Next one is going to result in buckets of CP jizz

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 02:07 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/28ivq68.jpg

DJ's left nut
08-19-2011, 02:16 PM
Holy crap, man.

I remembered thinking he looked good, but I don't remember him looking this good.

If they singled him, he raped them. If they doubled him, he at least held the point of attack. He even showed a little agility and solid burst off the line.

True, that wasn't the Buc's A team, but he looks a shitload better than Toribio's useless ass did.

Direckshun
08-19-2011, 02:17 PM
look at that tankass burrow

http://i51.tinypic.com/msg9kw.jpg

Great play by Powe, this is what he should be doing on a regular basis by the end of the year. Absolute destruction of the center, and really good anticipation of the snap.

Whoever was calling the blocking assignments for Tampa Bay ****ed up. The two OL over Brandon Bair ignored him -- one went to the second level, the other scooted outside to stymie Erik Bakhtiari. To make matters worse, the fullback steams ahead seemingly unaware that a 6'7" defensive end has been left unblocked.

That's where the play was directed, right at Bair, but no one blocks him. RB redirects to the other side but Powe got so much penetration he shut that option down.

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 02:19 PM
Holy crap, man.

I remembered thinking he looked good, but I don't remember him looking this good.


http://www.gifflix.com/files/2c19ae1518fe.gif

Direckshun
08-19-2011, 02:20 PM
MOAR

http://i53.tinypic.com/27yn43k.jpg

Amon Gordon and Powe are starting to look like really solid DL depth.

Powe coils soooo well in this gifs. His first punch is so violent, he is destroying the center when he's not getting doubled.

the Talking Can
08-19-2011, 02:20 PM
This one's nice. Classic NT play.

http://i53.tinypic.com/14v5xdx.jpg


that's what we want...move the line of scrimmage back, even a yard


dude already has the strength, and perfect body shape, just needs to keep working on technique...

Direckshun
08-19-2011, 02:23 PM
This one's nice. Classic NT play.

http://i53.tinypic.com/14v5xdx.jpg

This is two-gap football to a T. Again, Gordon and Powe looking very strong holding up multiple OLmen. Miller doing his best on the edge, too.

I think this play was another one designed to go right at Bair at RDE. Bair gets washed decently, but then Justin Houston absolutely storms the fullback. This is above and beyond what Studebaker did earlier in this thread -- he's not here to occupy the fullback, he's here to destroy shit.

GREAT play by Houston and the left side of the DL. Absolutely loving Powe at the 0-tech.

Edit: I think that might be Amara Kamara (#60), not Justin Houston (#50). Matter of fact, I'm certain of it.

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 02:23 PM
The center in one of these plays is Jeremy Zuttah, who is decent. I mean he's not going to any Pro Bowls, but he's not preseason fodder.

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 02:24 PM
Amon Gordon and Powe are starting to look like really solid DL depth.


What did I tell you about Gordon?

Allen Bailey isn't ready....Gordon is going to be Jackson's primary backup. I'd bet money on it.

Direckshun
08-19-2011, 02:27 PM
lol

Next one is going to result in buckets of CP jizz

http://i55.tinypic.com/28ivq68.jpg

Man. You are NOT kidding, brother. Defense is looking deeper and stronger than before.

Absolutely great penetration by Powe. Bair holds the LOS. Bakhtiari plays the edge brilliantly and forces the RB inside for help. Kamara storms in and Powe's great mobility is again on display.

Jizzzzzzzzz

Direckshun
08-19-2011, 02:28 PM
What did I tell you about Gordon?

Allen Bailey isn't ready....Gordon is going to be Jackson's primary backup. I'd bet money on it.

You called it. Credit where it's due.

DJ's left nut
08-19-2011, 02:33 PM
Man. You are NOT kidding, brother. Defense is looking deeper and stronger than before.

Absolutely great penetration by Powe. Bair holds the LOS. Bakhtiari plays the edge brilliantly and forces the RB inside for help. Kamara storms in and Powe's great mobility is again on display.

Jizzzzzzzzz

It took me a couple time to notice this, but the most impressive part of that play is the very end.

Look at how quickly he covers the last 5 yards to the RB. He plants that right foot and is shockingly quick to get back to speed and close on the play.

I'd need to see some plays where he failed to really get a feel for his performance, but damn if he doesn't look fantastic on the plays where he succeeds.

Direckshun
08-19-2011, 02:35 PM
It took me a couple time to notice this, but the most impressive part of that play is the very end.

Look at how quickly he covers the last 5 yards to the RB. He plants that right foot and is shockingly quick to get back to speed and close on the play.

I'd need to see some plays where he failed to really get a feel for his performance, but damn if he doesn't look fantastic on the plays where he succeeds.

Between Powe and Bakhtiari, this play isn't going anywhere.

Kamara does a great job with the Eric Berry role, flying in and cleaning up. But Powe's great work here steals the show.

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 02:36 PM
It took me a couple time to notice this, but the most impressive part of that play is the very end.

Look at how quickly he covers the last 5 yards to the RB. He plants that right foot and is shockingly quick to get back to speed and close on the play.

I'd need to see some plays where he failed to really get a feel for his performance, but damn if he doesn't look fantastic on the plays where he succeeds.

That's one thing Ron Edwards always struggled with.

He could beat linemen but he was lost in space.

Direckshun
08-19-2011, 02:46 PM
Rewatching that play, you can tell the left guard for the Bucs pulled out too far and tried to run the far side around Bair. Amara Kamara comes screaming in the near side. Hysterical to watch the guard realize that.

Doesn't matter anyway. Even if the guard picked up Kamara, Powe's too close to the hole for the play to develop.

I think that play was designed for the edge anyway based on how the RB is trying to use the LT who is getting his ass handed to him by Bakhtiari. And maybe that's some sort of small victory for Bair along with Bakhtiari, in that he kept pushing the edge farther and farther to the sideline.

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-19-2011, 04:17 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/28ivq68.jpg

My God; between Powe and Dick Stanzi, this team is making my balls grow bigger by the second...

booger
08-19-2011, 04:25 PM
anytime they can shed a block like that and make a tackle themselves it's impressive for a 2gap DLmen. Not going to get overly excited but those gifs remind me of Smith last year playing DE. Dorsey too. Actually saw Jackson make some of those plays in the SD game before getting hurt. Anyway, that's a great sign of coaching and how he is learning how to play they want him too. Playing the way he is coached will only lead to more snaps as well.

Frankie
08-19-2011, 09:39 PM
On the subject of Dick Stanzi, I just googled his middle name for maybe better name choices and found this:

"Ricky Stanzi Middle name is Bobby".... :facepalm: :D

http://www.chacha.com/question/what-is-ricky-stanzi-middle-name

BossChief
08-19-2011, 09:48 PM
HOLD THE FUCK ON

Ricky Bobby?

No fucking way

I wanna throw fast!