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Tribal Warfare
08-15-2011, 02:27 AM
Chiefs' Haley not changing approach to preseason (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/14/3076777/chiefs-coach-haley-not-changing.html)
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

ST. JOSEPH | The Chiefs looked unprepared for Friday night’s exhibition opener compared with their opponents, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The fact the Chiefs were dominated in a 25-0 defeat was perhaps inevitable given that they spent the previous two weeks of training camp working more on conditioning than football.

They may be in for more of the same Friday night when the preseason schedule continues with a game against the Ravens in Baltimore. Coach Todd Haley said he won’t alter the approach this week as camp resumes at Missouri Western.

The Chiefs returned to practice Sunday afternoon.

“I feel really good about the plan,” Haley said. “I said it after the game, it was the first one and not the last one, and I’m going all the way to the last one of the season. We’re in training camp, and as I keep telling the players, there’s no light at the end of the tunnel. Each and every day counts for us and for them to getting this team where it needs to be to start the season.

“I feel good about what we’re doing. We have a plan for this week. We’re going to have another game Friday at Baltimore. But the plan is again going to revolve more about us than anything else right now.”

The Chiefs were in full pads Sunday for the entire practice for the first time at camp. There was some contact but not to the normal standards for a padded practice at camp.

Haley said he is preparing for the Chiefs for the regular season, which begins Sept. 11 against Buffalo at Arrowhead Stadium. He indicated the route he’s taking for the Chiefs is best given the lack of offseason practice and conditioning sessions because of the lockout.

The Chiefs didn’t practice in pads or hold as many contact drills as several other NFL teams during the first two weeks of camp. Haley said he wants all players on equal footing with regard to physical conditioning before he turns them loose in practice.

“I don’t think we’re out of the woods as far as where we are physically,” Haley said. “We’ve got a couple of new, new guys on the roster in addition to some guys that weren’t quite there as last week wound down. That’s still the No. 1 thing for us and for me as the head coach is to get this team taking every day possible to physically get these guys into a position to succeed and hold up for what we hope is a good, long season.

“This time of year, you’re used to being in pads a little more and you’re used to doing things a little differently but (this year) it’s a different set of circumstances. The goal is to be ready for Sept. 11. That’s all really that I’m focused on, and these other things will take care of themselves.”

Haley said some of his assistants had been pushing him to do more in practice. At least one member of the staff, defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel, said he understood the situation because it’s been such a strange year for both players and coaches.

“Every team is doing things different,” Crennel said. “Everybody is trying to figure it out. You do what you feel like is best and you go from there. That’s what we’re doing. We think we can be ready Sept. 11.”

Haley resisted the urging from his assistants to bring the Chiefs along faster.

“As the head coach, you have to look at the big picture all the time,” Haley said. “I’ve been an assistant coach and I know how assistant coaches think … they have their area or their agenda that they have to worry about first and foremost, but it’s my job to look at the big picture.

“We’ve got a great, experienced coaching staff. We have great conversations, but there hasn’t been a time when we’ve left any meeting or gone to spread the message to the players that we’re not all on the same page.”

Haley said that after watching the video of the Tampa Bay game, the situation wasn’t as bad as it looked at first glance. On offense, the Chiefs had just 137 yards and had trouble blocking for their quarterbacks.

On defense, the Chiefs missed some tackles. Both are symptoms of when a team hasn’t adequately prepared, at least from a physical standpoint.

“When you watch a game live, when there’s a jailbreak offensively and the quarterback is under great duress, you tend to think it’s everybody,” Haley said. “But it was one guy here, one guy there. It wasn’t three or four guys all with breakdowns.

“It was the same defensively. Our defense only works if everybody is doing their job first. We had some instances where one guy got out of place, and that then made a lot of guys look like maybe they weren’t doing that they’re supposed to.”

michaelj_58
08-15-2011, 03:18 AM
I just hope there doing the right thing.

Renegade
08-15-2011, 05:06 AM
Oh boy we will lose 35-0 this week

MIAdragon
08-15-2011, 06:31 AM
Oh boy we will lose 35-0 this week

It's ok, it's only practice.

Dave Lane
08-15-2011, 06:40 AM
This is a major risk for the soft early part of the season, we can't afford to give away any of our early games because we aren't ready. This is a risky approach and I'm surprised Pioli went along with it.

Reerun_KC
08-15-2011, 06:49 AM
This is a major risk for the soft early part of the season, we can't afford to give away any of our early games because we aren't ready. This is a risky approach and I'm surprised Pioli went along with it.

Little upset that we arent winning practice?

suds79
08-15-2011, 06:53 AM
I'm okay with the Chiefs approach. These games don't mean anything.

Just more than ever I wish there was a 2 game preseason. 3 more games to go like this sounds like a long time.

Blick
08-15-2011, 07:08 AM
The Chiefs were in full pads Sunday for the entire practice for the first time at camp. There was some contact but not to the normal standards for a padded practice at camp.

This doesn't jive with the tough, physical team that Haley wants.

Would be a great approach if we were in a 7 on 7 flag league.

I think the team is getting set up for a slow start.

Marcellus
08-15-2011, 07:16 AM
This doesn't jive with the tough, physical team that Haley wants.

Would be a great approach if we were in a 7 on 7 flag league.

I think the team is getting set up for a slow start.

These guys have done nothing for 7 months. No OTA's and I imagine limited conditioning since it had to be done on their own.

If they were going full bore right now and guys were getting hurt people would be screaming about Haley being an ignorant dumbass like they were after his first TC and all the conditioning they were doing.

Hydrae
08-15-2011, 07:21 AM
I like this approach and think it makes a lot of sense to ensure conditioning as a base to build on. I am hopeful this will allow us to get through the season with less injury issues than other teams.

Chiefnj2
08-15-2011, 07:22 AM
I don't think the Chiefs are a good enough or experienced enough team to take the approach Haley is taking (assuming the next game is like the first).

I understand resting and not playing guys who showed up a day or so ago, or guys who were injured, but this isn't an experienced team that can afford the luxury of taking game time off. There is limited contact with the new rules in place, so they aren't ever going to "catch up" to other teams. All the other games I saw had a lot of starters beginning the game and playing like regular season.

The Chiefs can't afford a slow start to the season.

Deberg_1990
08-15-2011, 07:27 AM
Why dont fans ever get stoked when the Royals win the Arizona Cactus League every year?

Blick
08-15-2011, 07:48 AM
These guys have done nothing for 7 months. No OTA's and I imagine limited conditioning since it had to be done on their own.

If that's true, then we have a team full of unprofessional, lazy ****s.

Every other team was in the same boat, and other teams are hitting each other in practice.

If they were going full bore right now and guys were getting hurt people would be screaming about Haley being an ignorant dumbass like they were after his first TC and all the conditioning they were doing.

I think Haley's approach is going to put guys at risk for injury too. It seems like they are just going to try to "flip the switch" when the regular season starts and I think that's a dangerous approach with a young team like Chiefnj2 points out.

Marcellus
08-15-2011, 07:58 AM
If that's true, then we have a team full of unprofessional, lazy ****s.

Every other team was in the same boat, and other teams are hitting each other in practice.



I think Haley's approach is going to put guys at risk for injury too. It seems like they are just going to try to "flip the switch" when the regular season starts and I think that's a dangerous approach with a young team like Chiefnj2 points out.

What tells you this? You think it's going to be daycare until the season starts? They still have 4 weeks to get ramped up. No need to go full on now, they can bring them up to full speed in time.

Lzen
08-15-2011, 08:00 AM
I'm hoping they will be ready to start doing some more pads and hitting in practice by next week. But I don't blame Haley for taking this approach. Time will tell if it is the right one. Anyone remember what was the Chiefs preseason record last year? 1-3?

Blick
08-15-2011, 08:10 AM
What tells you this? You think it's going to be daycare until the season starts? They still have 4 weeks to get ramped up. No need to go full on now, they can bring them up to full speed in time.

The way Haley is talking about getting the team prepared. The fact that yesterday was the first time they've gone full pads. Other teams are going full speed and hitting, and you can tell.

While we are being "brought up to full speed", other teams are already going full speed. We could be behind when the season starts, and you can't catch up during the season. That's what I'm worried about.

13and3
08-15-2011, 08:26 AM
Healthy and Injury free is the way to go. All the teams trying to do to much to fast will most likely pay for it with key injuries in the preseason. I am hoping Phillis Rivers get his head taken off, b4 the preseason is over.

ReynardMuldrake
08-15-2011, 08:33 AM
The way Haley is talking about getting the team prepared. The fact that yesterday was the first time they've gone full pads. Other teams are going full speed and hitting, and you can tell.

While we are being "brought up to full speed", other teams are already going full speed. We could be behind when the season starts, and you can't catch up during the season. That's what I'm worried about.

Of course you can catch up during the season. Meanwhile those other teams will be trying to get caught up on injuries. I'd rather take it easy and get everyone conditioned and healthy than crap my pants worrying about the Bills.

Blick
08-15-2011, 08:47 AM
Of course you can catch up during the season. Meanwhile those other teams will be trying to get caught up on injuries. I'd rather take it easy and get everyone conditioned and healthy than crap my pants worrying about the Bills.

How? You get less than one full pad practice per week now during the regular season.

So, you're taking it easy during the pre-season, and you're taking it easy during the week in the regular season to keep guys healthy...and then expect guys to turn it on for the real games without getting hurt?

boogblaster
08-15-2011, 08:50 AM
easy ....

ReynardMuldrake
08-15-2011, 10:27 AM
How? You get less than one full pad practice per week now during the regular season.

So, you're taking it easy during the pre-season, and you're taking it easy during the week in the regular season to keep guys healthy...and then expect guys to turn it on for the real games without getting hurt?

Obviously, you have to strike a balance somewhere in between. This season, I think conditioning and staying healthy is going to be even more important than it has been in the past.

rocknrolla
08-15-2011, 10:42 AM
Oh boy we will lose 35-0 this week

Who cares. I just hope Haley is doing the right thing.

Chiefnj2
08-15-2011, 10:42 AM
Obviously, you have to strike a balance somewhere in between. This season, I think conditioning and staying healthy is going to be even more important than it has been in the past.

If other teams are hitting then don't they have the edge in conditioning?

Okie_Apparition
08-15-2011, 10:48 AM
There is no proven trail to follow, just hacking a path with machettes.

Mr. Laz
08-15-2011, 11:01 AM
This doesn't jive with the tough, physical team that Haley wants.

Would be a great approach if we were in a 7 on 7 flag league.

I think the team is getting set up for a slow start.
If we get off to a slow start we are screwed.

The second half of the season we face several legit Super Bowl caliber teams.

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we could lose all 5 of these even playing our best. We also play @San Diego in week 3 and @indy week 5 where we could get our asses handed to us.

DenverDanChiefsFan
08-15-2011, 11:06 AM
The way Haley is talking about getting the team prepared. The fact that yesterday was the first time they've gone full pads. Other teams are going full speed and hitting, and you can tell.

While we are being "brought up to full speed", other teams are already going full speed. We could be behind when the season starts, and you can't catch up during the season. That's what I'm worried about.How many of the 10 ruptured achillies in NFL training camps have come from the Chiefs? STFU

Cave Johnson
08-15-2011, 11:08 AM
PK, ever the moron.

Today, Kansas City Chiefs (St. Joseph, Mo.). Losing 25-0 to Tampa Bay at home Friday night will make for an uncomfortable practice day, I would imagine.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/08/15/camps/index.html#ixzz1V7OVMfAt

Epic Fail 007
08-15-2011, 11:14 AM
I hate anything preseason,its means nothing

Blick
08-15-2011, 11:18 AM
Obviously, you have to strike a balance somewhere in between. This season, I think conditioning and staying healthy is going to be even more important than it has been in the past.

If other teams are hitting then don't they have the edge in conditioning?

Good point here by Chiefnj2.

Also, we have to stop being scared of injuries. It's part of the game. The Packers won the Super Bowl last year with like 16 guys on IR or something like that. Good teams battle through injuries.

Epic Fail 007
08-15-2011, 11:19 AM
I'm okay with the Chiefs approach. These games don't mean anything.

Just more than ever I wish there was a 2 game preseason. 3 more games to go like this sounds like a long time.

I wish there were only 2 preseason games 4 is way too many.

Chiefnj2
08-15-2011, 11:27 AM
How many of the 10 ruptured achillies in NFL training camps have come from the Chiefs? STFU

There were 9 last year in the NFL preseason.

LOCOChief
08-15-2011, 11:27 AM
I'm alll for Haley's approach. Look at some of the names popping up on other teams injury report today. If we had played Charles, DJ or Hali and one of them came up hurt Friday this place would go balistic.

we'll be fast and healthy for Buffalo

Blick
08-15-2011, 11:31 AM
If we get off to a slow start we are screwed.

The second half of the season we face several legit Super Bowl caliber teams.

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we could lose all 5 of these even playing our best. We also play @San Diego in week 3 and @indy week 5 where we could get our asses handed to us.

Worrying about the schedule is like worrying about injuries to me.

We have some tough games? So what...we're supposed to be a good team.

We might have some injuries? So what...we're supposed to be a good team.

Things rarely go perfectly for good teams. Good teams are usually the teams that handle adversity the best.

Since the Chiefs were unusually healthy last year, it seems like Haley is hoping for that again this year. That's just unrealistic, IMO.

Messier
08-15-2011, 11:32 AM
There were 9 last year in the NFL preseason.

In the whole preseason? because these all happened before any preseason games were played.

Blick
08-15-2011, 11:33 AM
How many of the 10 ruptured achillies in NFL training camps have come from the Chiefs? STFU

Wouldn't even be a story if it wasn't for the lockout.

Season-ending injuries happen every year.

Chiefnj2
08-15-2011, 11:36 AM
In the whole preseason? because these all happened before any preseason games were played.

Whole preseason. If every other team has players dropping like flies and KC comes out sharp the first 4 games, then Haley will be correct and 30 other head coaches wrong.

Messier
08-15-2011, 11:38 AM
I expect more of the same this week. Unlike most years, I think the Chiefs are going to slowly ramp up to the regular season, with week four having much more importance than a regular preseason game four.

Rausch
08-15-2011, 11:38 AM
These guys have done nothing for 7 months. No OTA's and I imagine limited conditioning since it had to be done on their own.

If they were going full bore right now and guys were getting hurt people would be screaming about Haley being an ignorant dumbass like they were after his first TC and all the conditioning they were doing.

I think it's a smart plan.

And I'm as big a critic as Haley's got...

Messier
08-15-2011, 11:42 AM
Whole preseason. If every other team has players dropping like flies and KC comes out sharp the first 4 games, then Haley will be correct and 30 other head coaches wrong.

Are the Chiefs the only team in the NFL doing it this way? You know this? I have no idea how the Colts, or the Jags are running their training camps, but if you know the other teams are all operating differently I'll take your word for it.

Hydrae
08-15-2011, 11:43 AM
Whole preseason. If every other team has players dropping like flies and KC comes out sharp the first 4 games, then Haley will be correct and 30 other head coaches wrong.

Maybe even 31. :)

lcarus
08-15-2011, 11:45 AM
I just hope Cassel gets a lot of work in with Bowe, Breaston, and Baldwin as his 3 WRs.

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-15-2011, 11:50 AM
If that's true, then we have a team full of unprofessional, lazy ****s. Every other team was in the same boat, and other teams are hitting each other in practice.



I think Haley's approach is going to put guys at risk for injury too. It seems like they are just going to try to "flip the switch" when the regular season starts and I think that's a dangerous approach with a young team like Chiefnj2 points out.

Give me a break. You should know better than that by now with this Chiefs team.

Renegade
08-15-2011, 11:59 AM
Who cares. I just hope Haley is doing the right thing.

I really don't care if we lose 70-0. What does matter is that the young guys are given a proper evaluation. The "game" last week did not do anything for evaluating our talent, so how do we know who the "right 54" are. I just think proper evaluation can't be determined if it isn't actual full speed contact in a game situation

Blick
08-15-2011, 12:06 PM
Give me a break. You should know better than that by now with this Chiefs team.

That's why it's disappointing that Haley is holding back so much and worrying so much about conditioning. The guys should be in good shape, and we should have been able to hit the ground running after the lockout, IMO.

Reerun_KC
08-15-2011, 12:08 PM
That's why it's disappointing that Haley is holding back so much and worrying so much about conditioning. The guys should be in good shape, and we should have been able to hit the ground running after the lockout, IMO.

Well their not and they can't, so why bitch to Haley that they should be running things your way?

Youre not making much sense here.

Deberg_1990
08-15-2011, 12:19 PM
What does matter is that the young guys are given a proper evaluation. The "game" last week did not do anything for evaluating our talent, so how do we know who the "right 54" are. I just think proper evaluation can't be determined if it isn't actual full speed contact in a game situation

How do you know it did nothing? Are you a position coach for the Chiefs?

Micjones
08-15-2011, 12:28 PM
This is the right idea. It does seem risky, but so does pushing these guys to the limit and losing a key player for the season due to injury.

Chiefnj2
08-15-2011, 12:30 PM
Maybe even 31. :)

I thought NE held back a lot of starters. However, their backups (unlike KC's) were very prepared.

Reerun_KC
08-15-2011, 12:34 PM
I thought NE held back a lot of starters. However, their backups (unlike KC's) were very prepared.

This is the best rebuttal you can come up with?

:huh:

Cave Johnson
08-15-2011, 12:36 PM
I thought NE held back a lot of starters. However, their backups (unlike KC's) were very prepared.

NE, a team that had the luxury of taking a talented but unneeded QB in the 3rd, has better backups than the Chiefs? You don't say...

Carlota69
08-15-2011, 12:37 PM
I thought NE held back a lot of starters. However, their backups (unlike KC's) were very prepared.

Question(And I am truly asking, not being sarcastic): Do we know how many of NE backups are rookies? I ask because I think NE is one of those teams that was going to survive the lockout better than most due to the nucleus of the team. I think the same of Pittsburgh. We still have a ton of newbies on our 2nd and 3rd teams. We as a team are not even close to the consistency in NE. or PITT.

FWIW, I dont mind Haley taking this approach, it just sucks to watch.

Chiefnj2
08-15-2011, 12:38 PM
This is the best rebuttal you can come up with?

:huh:

Rebuttal to what? Somebody questioned why I said 30 coaches were taking a certain approach to the games and not 31.

ReynardMuldrake
08-15-2011, 12:38 PM
Worrying about the schedule is like worrying about injuries to me.

We have some tough games? So what...we're supposed to be a good team.

We might have some injuries? So what...we're supposed to be a good team.

Things rarely go perfectly for good teams. Good teams are usually the teams that handle adversity the best.

Since the Chiefs were unusually healthy last year, it seems like Haley is hoping for that again this year. That's just unrealistic, IMO.

I couldn't disagree more. If we had to play with our 2nd string O-line we would lose 16 games. Keeping our starters healthy is absolutely critical.

This season more than most will be a war of attrition. If we can stay ahead of the league on the injury list I think we're halfway there.

Chiefnj2
08-15-2011, 12:39 PM
NE, a team that had the luxury of taking a talented but unneeded QB in the 3rd, has better backups than the Chiefs? You don't say...

Not a matter of "better" backups, just ones that were prepared.

Did Mallett learn more his first game, or did Stanzi?

stevieray
08-15-2011, 12:41 PM
two years ago, Haley was too hard on the players....and he was losing the team!!!!!1OMGWTF?, now all of a sudden, he's too soft?

meh. not arguing style points.

Messier
08-15-2011, 12:55 PM
Not a matter of "better" backups, just ones that were prepared.

Did Mallett learn more his first game, or did Stanzi?

Oh, I'll say Stanzi. I even thought this at the time. Every time Stanzi came off the field he looked frustrated but Cassel and Zorn were right there to teach and encourage. Maybe you don't believe in the trial by fire theory. I kept thinking Stanzi will be better for experiences like this.

dannybcaitlyn
08-15-2011, 01:01 PM
Crickets will be in attendance at the next home game.

crazycoffey
08-15-2011, 01:29 PM
It's ok, it's only practice.


would you prefer, "you play to win the game!!!"?

OnTheWarpath58
08-15-2011, 01:33 PM
would you prefer, "you play to win the game!!!"?

Did you see that Scott set the draft date?

crazycoffey
08-15-2011, 01:37 PM
Did you see that Scott set the draft date?

en-route to see it now...

crazycoffey
08-15-2011, 01:38 PM
Did you see that Scott set the draft date?

same location?

rocknrolla
08-15-2011, 01:41 PM
Question(And I am truly asking, not being sarcastic): Do we know how many of NE backups are rookies? I ask because I think NE is one of those teams that was going to survive the lockout better than most due to the nucleus of the team. I think the same of Pittsburgh. We still have a ton of newbies on our 2nd and 3rd teams. We as a team are not even close to the consistency in NE. or PITT
FWIW, I dont mind Haley taking this approach, it just sucks to watch.

IMO. NE and PITT have had the luxury of building their teams through the draft for a much longer time. We have only started since Carl's departure. So their second and third teams are much more experienced. I really like what Haley is doing. IMO, conditioning is the key to avoiding injuries.

Blick
08-15-2011, 01:42 PM
I couldn't disagree more. If we had to play with our 2nd string O-line we would lose 16 games. Keeping our starters healthy is absolutely critical.

This season more than most will be a war of attrition. If we can stay ahead of the league on the injury list I think we're halfway there.

You're not looking at injuries realistically. How likely is it that all 5 of our starting O-linemen get injured at the same time? Normally, you plug in one guy here...another guy there.

How did we look against Seattle last year with Richardson filling in for Albert at LT and O'Failaghan filling in at RT?

OnTheWarpath58
08-15-2011, 01:46 PM
same location?

I believe so, but unconfirmed. Even if no one else shows, you're more than welcome to.

crazycoffey
08-15-2011, 01:56 PM
I believe so, but unconfirmed. Even if no one else shows, you're more than welcome to.

Did I tell you we bought a new house? I think we're closer to you, we're certainly closer to JR's work, that area.

And we just got a pool table. I need to put part of the floor down and then level the table so I can get started on the bar area.

Sidenote - See phobia, I told you I wouldn't get started as early as I previously stated. I'm such a slacker.

Carlota69
08-15-2011, 02:05 PM
IMO. NE and PITT have had the luxury of building their teams through the draft for a much longer time. We have only started since Carl's departure. So their second and third teams are much more experienced. I really like what Haley is doing. IMO, conditioning is the key to avoiding injuries.

Thats pretty much what I was thinking...we are still a very young team and this offseason, or lack thereof, is going to affect teams like ours more than NE or PITT. Im not gonna freak over preseason games, especially this year.

scott free
08-15-2011, 03:46 PM
In Haley I Trust... he's not going to cut corners & rush guys into injuries, would i have liked to see him personally body slam Raheem Morris? yes, but as has already been said eleventybillion times, its just preseason.

One step at a time.

BigMeatballDave
08-15-2011, 04:35 PM
Good God. LMAO @ at the bleeding vaginas in this thread.

BryanBusby
08-15-2011, 04:39 PM
Why dont fans ever get stoked when the Royals win the Arizona Cactus League every year?

A typical fan will. A typical fan also has an IQ of less than a houseplant, though.

There should be no surprise that people are losing their fucking minds over one pre-season game after an unusual offseason and many altered rules.

veist
08-15-2011, 05:37 PM
PK, ever the moron.



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/08/15/camps/index.html#ixzz1V7OVMfAt

Yeah, to phrase things like that douche: Is Peter King biggest hack in sports journalism? Quite possibly.

DTLB58
08-15-2011, 05:39 PM
I wish there were only 2 preseason games 4 is way too many.

And here I thought the CBA negotiations were over. ;)

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-15-2011, 05:46 PM
Good God. LMAO @ at the bleeding vaginas in this thread.

Typical thread, eh?

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-15-2011, 05:51 PM
two years ago, Haley was too hard on the players....and he was losing the team!!!!!1OMGWTF?, now all of a sudden, he's too soft?

meh. not arguing style points.

HE'S LOST CHARLES OMG 11!!!11!!!!!

Okie_Apparition
08-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Good God. LMAO @ at the bleeding vaginas in this thread.

They'll be starting food threads in a few months. They'll catch a Stanzi performance while ovulating

TEX
08-15-2011, 07:41 PM
The Chiefs looked unprepared even for a practice...
BUT IF that was "the plan" then they achieved perfection!

philfree
08-15-2011, 08:30 PM
What exactly Haleys approach anyway? To read Teicher you'd think that Haley's plan is to not have any hitting in practice and no starters(Alot of them anyway.) play in any preseson game. That's what he's done so far so that must be his plan all the way up to the season opener. :)

BossChief
08-15-2011, 08:35 PM
1 Sep 11 BUF @ KC
2 Sep 18 KC @ DET
3 Sep 25 KC @ SD
4 Oct 02 MIN @ KC

If we can get to Stafford...we could probably win 3/4 of our first stretch of games on talent and coaching alone.

If the gamble pays off, we should be able to really start to catch fire going into the tough stretch to close the year and hopefully have momentum going into the playoffs...especially if we stay relatively healthy and other teams that look strong on paper catch the injury bug because they are pushing too hard.