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L.A. Chieffan
08-18-2011, 11:50 AM
it wasn't his fault, it was the system trying to keep him down

Pestilence
08-18-2011, 11:51 AM
No.

ChiefsCountry
08-18-2011, 11:55 AM
Buffalo would make alot of sense for Pryor. He would fit Chan Gailey's mold for a QB, no real pressure to play right away with Fitzpatrick and Thiggy.

L.A. Chieffan
08-18-2011, 11:55 AM
ya hes a niner fo sho

Mr. Laz
08-18-2011, 11:58 AM
as long as it's a 5th or later ... i don't care.

maybe he can be our wildcat guy and losing Palko doesn't mean shit.

Chocolate Hog
08-18-2011, 11:58 AM
Buffalo would make alot of sense for Pryor. He would fit Chan Gailey's mold for a QB, no real pressure to play right away with Fitzpatrick and Thiggy.

I agree. Inaccurate QB to compete with Tyler Thigpen who's also inaccurate.

L.A. Chieffan
08-18-2011, 11:59 AM
as long as it's a 5th or later ... i don't care.

maybe he can be our wildcat guy and losing Palko doesn't mean shit.

a fifth?

Hydrae
08-18-2011, 11:59 AM
No

tooge
08-18-2011, 12:01 PM
no, nope, nah, no way, no how, uh uh, never, nada, nil, no sireee, niet.

Sofa King
08-18-2011, 12:04 PM
Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.

WV
08-18-2011, 12:04 PM
Not no, but hell no.

NaptownChief
08-18-2011, 12:06 PM
If he wants to play a Dallas Clark type of role otherwise I wouldn't give a used jock strap for him as a QB.

Mr. Laz
08-18-2011, 12:07 PM
a fifth?
what's your point? Would you just say it instead of this bullshit.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6661247

Per the NFL's release, Pryor is eligible to be selected in the supplemental draft, but he will NOT be allowed to practice or play in the first five games of the 2011 season.

Forcing Pryor to remain off the field for roughly a third of the season will have a definite impact on his draft stock. I've spoken to several teams with interest in the dynamic running/passing threat, with many teams suggesting that a middle round pick was likely needed to secure his services. Ineligible to play for that long could push Pryor into the fifth round. Of the remaining players in the draft, McAdoo and King are the likeliest to also get drafted, though both appear to have late round prospects, at best.

L.A. Chieffan
08-18-2011, 12:09 PM
what's your point? Would you just say it instead of this bullshit.

would i just say what? are you ok laz? whats the matter, no shiatsu this morning?

BigMeatballDave
08-18-2011, 12:16 PM
He should lose weight and compete as a WR. He'll never make it as a QB.

Saul Good
08-18-2011, 12:19 PM
I'd use an 8th round pick on him.

BigMeatballDave
08-18-2011, 12:21 PM
If this kid played in Colombia, Lawrence, Manhatten, or Lincoln, he would be a God around here. :)

BigCatDaddy
08-18-2011, 12:23 PM
I'd prefer Tim Tebow :facepalm:

Pestilence
08-18-2011, 12:26 PM
Buffalo would make alot of sense for Pryor. He would fit Chan Gailey's mold for a QB, no real pressure to play right away with Fitzpatrick and Thiggy.

This.

I figure Buffalo or Oakland will take a shot on him.

tooge
08-18-2011, 12:33 PM
a fifth?

I'll have to drink a fifth if they draft this guy

Urc Burry
08-18-2011, 12:57 PM
Is he as bad as everyones making him out to be?

65% 2,700 yards 8.5 avg and 27 tds to 11 int's doesn't seem that bad

HoneyBadger
08-18-2011, 12:59 PM
Is he as bad as everyones making him out to be?

65% 2,700 yards 8.5 avg and 27 tds to 11 int's doesn't seem that bad

And what are his NFL stats?

BigCatDaddy
08-18-2011, 01:08 PM
Is he as bad as everyones making him out to be?

65% 2,700 yards 8.5 avg and 27 tds to 11 int's doesn't seem that bad

You have to consider the conference he played in.

Count Zarth
08-27-2013, 11:46 PM
wo

http://i.imgur.com/0cNiUcH.gif

-King-
08-27-2013, 11:54 PM
How the fuck?! LMAO

AussieChiefsFan
08-27-2013, 11:56 PM
wo

http://i.imgur.com/0cNiUcH.gifThat looks like something out of a movie. LMAO

Count Zarth
08-27-2013, 11:57 PM
That is a sick fucking throw.

I wish we had a kid like that on the roster.

KC Tattoo
08-27-2013, 11:59 PM
People would say "fake" if that was posted in EPIC win/fail threads.

GordonGekko
08-27-2013, 11:59 PM
Looks like a high school football game play.

lcarus
08-28-2013, 12:02 AM
Textbook

GordonGekko
08-28-2013, 12:04 AM
Textbook

Exactly. Part of me, because this is Raiders football after all, wonders if this is a 'designed' play.

lcarus
08-28-2013, 12:06 AM
Exactly. Part of me, because this is Raiders football after all, wonders if this is a 'designed' play.

God lets hope so. Passes like that will get taken yard a good majority of the time.

GordonGekko
08-28-2013, 12:08 AM
God lets hope so. Passes like that will get taken yard a good majority of the time.

Dude, honestly, this play looks unstoppable. Even if we had clones of James Hasty as our DB's, and Rod Woodson clones at safety, I don't think this is defensible?... Could be wrong.

chiefzilla1501
08-28-2013, 12:29 AM
Is he as bad as everyones making him out to be?

65% 2,700 yards 8.5 avg and 27 tds to 11 int's doesn't seem that bad

I watch a lot of Big 10 football. A freakish athlete with a complete pea brain. If you think leadership and football smarts are unimportant, then he's your guy. He's basically Cam Newton but with half the athletic talent, and half the intelligence.

Pryor is fast, but he's more of a glider and he shies away from contact. He would rather run the ball out of bounds 5 yards before the sticks on 3rd down then take contact to get a first. Horribly inaccurate passer who throws a ball that nosedives into the ground.

He is the epitome of a QB who can only win if he's beating you with his legs. Because everything about his passing game sucks.

AdumbGuy
08-28-2013, 04:40 AM
I watch a lot of Big 10 football. A freakish athlete with a complete pea brain. If you think leadership and football smarts are unimportant, then he's your guy. He's basically Cam Newton but with half the athletic talent, and half the intelligence.

Pryor is fast, but he's more of a glider and he shies away from contact. He would rather run the ball out of bounds 5 yards before the sticks on 3rd down then take contact to get a first. Horribly inaccurate passer who throws a ball that nosedives into the ground.

He is the epitome of a QB who can only win if he's beating you with his legs. Because everything about his passing game sucks.

Hah, you must be an Ohio state fan too.

Well, from what I've seen - he doesn't get rattled under pressure like the Cassholes of the world. Throwing mechanics are definitely off, Tebow-esque even, but seems to have a much stronger arm.

Watching him last week, he moves like vick, but he's 6'6. Raiders are maybe going to win 6 games with their shoddy O-line and depth, but I kinda envy them, because the kid is fucking electric when he's in. Me and my friend used to say Rex Grossman was the most exciting player in football because his every play seemed like either a perfect 50 yard bomb or a pick 6 or a fumble. Pryor should be the same, but with scrambles!

Chronic
08-28-2013, 04:59 AM
People say he cant throw- I dunno.. he threw some pretty nice strikes last week, that one to his TE for a TD, was perfect- threaded it and put the ball where only his TE could get it-

He reminds me a lot of Randall Cunningham

AdumbGuy
08-28-2013, 05:24 AM
People say he cant throw- I dunno.. he threw some pretty nice strikes last week, that one to his TE for a TD, was perfect- threaded it and put the ball where only his TE could get it-

He reminds me a lot of Randall Cunningham

yeah, his passes don't seem that bad even though his delivery can be awkward. The week before, he had a perfect deep throw under pressure that the WR couldn't hang on to.

Definitely Cunningham like. Will have to catch more Raider games this year.

ChiefGator
08-28-2013, 06:02 AM
Nice interview with Pryor on NFL AM this morning. He was asked to compare himself to the read-option players in the league and he said they are more accurate then him with the ball. He identified the problem and has been trying to do everything in his power to get better at his weakness.

I'ld almost like the kid if I didn't despise Ohio State just slightly less than the Raiders.

lawrenceRaider
08-28-2013, 08:18 AM
I watch a lot of Big 10 football. A freakish athlete with a complete pea brain. If you think leadership and football smarts are unimportant, then he's your guy. He's basically Cam Newton but with half the athletic talent, and half the intelligence.

Pryor is fast, but he's more of a glider and he shies away from contact. He would rather run the ball out of bounds 5 yards before the sticks on 3rd down then take contact to get a first. Horribly inaccurate passer who throws a ball that nosedives into the ground.

He is the epitome of a QB who can only win if he's beating you with his legs. Because everything about his passing game sucks.

Hah, you must be an Ohio state fan too.

Well, from what I've seen - he doesn't get rattled under pressure like the Cassholes of the world. Throwing mechanics are definitely off, Tebow-esque even, but seems to have a much stronger arm.

Watching him last week, he moves like vick, but he's 6'6. Raiders are maybe going to win 6 games with their shoddy O-line and depth, but I kinda envy them, because the kid is ****ing electric when he's in. Me and my friend used to say Rex Grossman was the most exciting player in football because his every play seemed like either a perfect 50 yard bomb or a pick 6 or a fumble. Pryor should be the same, but with scrambles!

Pryor has drastically improved his passing ability. He said something this off season about never really learning to pass the ball properly (throwing motion). Fairly crazy to think he hadn't been properly taught this from HS through college, and a few years in the pro's. I think he worked with Tom Brady's QB coach this past off season.

As far as him shying away from contact, I've seen zero evidence of that so far in his Raider career. Not sure he's the answer to the Raider QB problem long term, but if he continues to improve he might be. In any case, Pryor playing will at least make Raider football watchable in 2013.

Rausch
08-28-2013, 08:21 AM
Nice interview with Pryor on NFL AM this morning. He was asked to compare himself to the read-option players in the league and he said they are more accurate then him with the ball. He identified the problem and has been trying to do everything in his power to get better at his weakness.

I'ld almost like the kid if I didn't despise Ohio State just slightly less than the Raiders.

Seems like an intelligent and honestly good guy.

Shame he's in a $#ithole...

Thig Lyfe
08-28-2013, 08:33 AM
I'd trade Alex Smith for him in a heartbeat

L.A. Chieffan
08-28-2013, 08:35 AM
I'd trade Alex Smith for him in a heartbeat

Blasphemous

AdumbGuy
08-28-2013, 08:56 AM
I'd trade Alex Smith for him in a heartbeat

TASFTP!!

Dave Lane
08-28-2013, 09:00 AM
Pryor has drastically improved his passing ability. He said something this off season about never really learning to pass the ball properly (throwing motion). Fairly crazy to think he hadn't been properly taught this from HS through college, and a few years in the pro's. I think he worked with Tom Brady's QB coach this past off season.

As far as him shying away from contact, I've seen zero evidence of that so far in his Raider career. Not sure he's the answer to the Raider QB problem long term, but if he continues to improve he might be. In any case, Pryor playing will at least make Raider football watchable in 2013.

The raiders are going to be historically bad unless Pryor puts on a show.

Dave Lane
08-28-2013, 09:01 AM
I'd trade Alex Smith for him in a heartbeat

I'd trade AS for a Long John Silver combo meal and feel like we ripped them.

Rausch
08-28-2013, 09:02 AM
I'd trade Alex Smith for him in a heartbeat

You're fucking retarded...

L.A. Chieffan
08-28-2013, 09:03 AM
I'd trade AS for a Long John Silver combo meal and feel like we ripped them.

:facepalm: Theres so much trans-fat in that

chiefzilla1501
08-28-2013, 09:14 AM
Hah, you must be an Ohio state fan too.

Well, from what I've seen - he doesn't get rattled under pressure like the Cassholes of the world. Throwing mechanics are definitely off, Tebow-esque even, but seems to have a much stronger arm.

Watching him last week, he moves like vick, but he's 6'6. Raiders are maybe going to win 6 games with their shoddy O-line and depth, but I kinda envy them, because the kid is ****ing electric when he's in. Me and my friend used to say Rex Grossman was the most exciting player in football because his every play seemed like either a perfect 50 yard bomb or a pick 6 or a fumble. Pryor should be the same, but with scrambles!

I spent lots of time in browns country. So I've seen plenty of osu games. Pryor is what he is. He is a freakish athlete with a decent arm, horrible accuracy, and a pea brain.

The guy doesn't have the work ethic or intelligence to know the game mentally. He isn't a guy his teammates will respect. And he has horrible accuracy and throws a very ugly ball. His mechanics may have improved that, but the rest... That's not coach able.

I bet Pryor puts together a few good games, then turns into shit as either fame gets to his head or more than likely, because he doesn't have the work ethic or intelligence to figure out defenses who learn how to scheme him. I'm not even a fan of cam Newton, but he is essentially a dumber, far less accurate version of cam.

lawrenceRaider
08-28-2013, 09:59 AM
I spent lots of time in browns country. So I've seen plenty of osu games. Pryor is what he is. He is a freakish athlete with a decent arm, horrible accuracy, and a pea brain.

The guy doesn't have the work ethic or intelligence to know the game mentally. He isn't a guy his teammates will respect. And he has horrible accuracy and throws a very ugly ball. His mechanics may have improved that, but the rest... That's not coach able.

I bet Pryor puts together a few good games, then turns into shit as either fame gets to his head or more than likely, because he doesn't have the work ethic or intelligence to figure out defenses who learn how to scheme him. I'm not even a fan of cam Newton, but he is essentially a dumber, far less accurate version of cam.

Definitely a bitter OSU fan.

chiefzilla1501
08-28-2013, 10:01 AM
Definitely a bitter OSU fan.

I haven't spoken badly about any osu player. I call it like it is. Feel free to check out any scouting report. Many believed he was better suited to play receiver.

But I suppose every scout is a bitter osu fan.

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-28-2013, 10:19 AM
Is there ANY possibility we can make another team richer while fucking ourselves in this?

Those are my terms.

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-28-2013, 10:21 AM
I'd trade AS for a Long John Silver combo meal and feel like we ripped them.

LMAO I'm low-balling; one A&W root beer float seals this deal.

AdumbGuy
08-28-2013, 10:41 AM
I spent lots of time in browns country. So I've seen plenty of osu games. Pryor is what he is. He is a freakish athlete with a decent arm, horrible accuracy, and a pea brain.

The guy doesn't have the work ethic or intelligence to know the game mentally. He isn't a guy his teammates will respect. And he has horrible accuracy and throws a very ugly ball. His mechanics may have improved that, but the rest... That's not coach able.

I bet Pryor puts together a few good games, then turns into shit as either fame gets to his head or more than likely, because he doesn't have the work ethic or intelligence to figure out defenses who learn how to scheme him. I'm not even a fan of cam Newton, but he is essentially a dumber, far less accurate version of cam.

Wait, wait, wait. By all accounts from his coaches, pryor is a hard worker with a great work ethic. I don't know about his leadership per se, but from what I've seen in preseason and his 1 start, he had complete control of the huddle. Where are you getting all this stuff from?

Two seconds of googling later:
"Pryor received rave reviews from quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo after last week's rookie minicamp.

"The first thing is, everybody knows how hard he's working," DeFilippo told Comcast SportsNet Bay Area. "He's going to give himself a chance to be a good player in this league, because of his work ethic. He and I are in communication every day. He's a gym rat here in this building. He loves being here, loves talking football, loves being around, playing the game. He's getting better everyday. "

lawrenceRaider
08-28-2013, 12:38 PM
Wait, wait, wait. By all accounts from his coaches, pryor is a hard worker with a great work ethic. I don't know about his leadership per se, but from what I've seen in preseason and his 1 start, he had complete control of the huddle. Where are you getting all this stuff from?

Two seconds of googling later:
"Pryor received rave reviews from quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo after last week's rookie minicamp.

"The first thing is, everybody knows how hard he's working," DeFilippo told Comcast SportsNet Bay Area. "He's going to give himself a chance to be a good player in this league, because of his work ethic. He and I are in communication every day. He's a gym rat here in this building. He loves being here, loves talking football, loves being around, playing the game. He's getting better everyday. "

He's pulling it out of his arse for the most part, though many did feel Pryor would need to change positions in the NFL. The leadership side I think is drastically off, in Oakland anyway. Last year in the finale, you could see the team work harder for Pryor than they had for Palmer, and the same thing this year in the preseason. Players are on record as prefering Pryor, and feeling he's been a leader even when it was assumed he would be the backup QB.

Thig Lyfe
08-28-2013, 12:39 PM
TASFTP!!

I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

mcaj22
08-28-2013, 01:46 PM
i got flamed on here for saying Pryor would eventually be the starter for the Raiders this season.

looks like I was right

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-28-2013, 01:47 PM
i got flamed on here for saying Pryor would eventually be the starter for the Raiders this season.

looks like I was right

Rightness-Rep.

Ceej
08-28-2013, 02:21 PM
i got flamed on here for saying Pryor would eventually be the starter for the Raiders this season.

looks like I was right

Thanks Mecca.

Chronic
08-28-2013, 05:55 PM
Critics talk about his accuracy- It's not that bad.. his QB rating his pretty high.. Everyone wants to look at his college stats and disregard what he's doing in the NFL, and he's doing very well

I got this rot gut feeling he's gonna end up a pretty damn good QB thats gonna be real hard to defend

Raiders OL is dogshit now that Veldheer is out,,,they need to add a couple players on that OL and if McFadden can stay healthy, eh....

Those douche nozzles are 55 million under the cap next year, they are gonna go all ape sh*t on bringing in big FA's

What would really blow is if Pryor goes off but they dont win many games because of that defense then they draft Clowney and have 55 million dollars to spend in free agency

Fark me

Rausch
08-28-2013, 05:58 PM
Wait, wait, wait. By all accounts from his coaches, pryor is a hard worker with a great work ethic. I don't know about his leadership per se, but from what I've seen in preseason and his 1 start, he had complete control of the huddle. Where are you getting all this stuff from?

This.

He's super raw and might not ever work out but he's no t00l...

bkkcoh
08-28-2013, 06:32 PM
Not just a no. But a hell no.

chiefzilla1501
08-28-2013, 09:05 PM
JFC. Hype around a QB because he had some preseason success and because his coaches said nice things about him.

You guys will be really disappointed when he has defenses that actually know how to stop his legs and that throw confusing defensive looks at him.

ChiefAshhole20
08-28-2013, 09:19 PM
They need to stop fucking around and just make him a WR already.

Thig Lyfe
08-28-2013, 09:23 PM
They need to stop fucking around and just make him a WR already.

TPWR!!!!

ChiefGator
08-29-2013, 02:45 AM
TPWR!!!!

BALG!!!

KC Tattoo
08-29-2013, 02:52 AM
I'd trade AS for a Long John Silver combo meal and feel like we ripped them.


I'd trade Alex Smith for a doughnut


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm8/barneygabriel/doughnut.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/barneygabriel/media/doughnut.jpg.html) mmmm doughnut

KC Tattoo
08-29-2013, 02:53 AM
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg45/xxiHeartJonathanxx/doughnut.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/xxiHeartJonathanxx/media/doughnut.jpg.html)

KC Tattoo
08-29-2013, 02:54 AM
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q441/mygoddess77/doughnut.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/mygoddess77/media/doughnut.jpg.html)

KC Tattoo
08-29-2013, 02:55 AM
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m331/Sw33tGyal26/Doughnut.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/Sw33tGyal26/media/Doughnut.jpg.html)

KC Tattoo
08-29-2013, 02:57 AM
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o594/zzbbswife/food%20and%20drink/doughnut.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/zzbbswife/media/food%20and%20drink/doughnut.jpg.html)

AdumbGuy
08-29-2013, 03:54 AM
Damn dude, so you made up this complete lie about him:

The guy doesn't have the work ethic or intelligence to know the game mentally. ... That's not coach able.


which is directly refuted by his quarterbacks coach:

"Pryor received rave reviews from quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo after last week's rookie minicamp.

"The first thing is, everybody knows how hard he's working," DeFilippo told Comcast SportsNet Bay Area. "He's going to give himself a chance to be a good player in this league, because of his work ethic. He and I are in communication every day. He's a gym rat here in this building. He loves being here, loves talking football, loves being around, playing the game. He's getting better everyday. "

which in turn contradicts what you said earlier:

I haven't spoken badly about any osu player. I call it like it is.

And now you've decided us to set us straight about what's really going to happen:

JFC. Hype around a QB because he had some preseason success and because his coaches said nice things about him.

You guys will be really disappointed when he has defenses that actually know how to stop his legs and that throw confusing defensive looks at him.

Hahaha, tell us more about this Pryor, oh wise, not-at-all bitter-hypocritical-and-manipulative one

AdumbGuy
08-29-2013, 03:58 AM
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o594/zzbbswife/food%20and%20drink/doughnut.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/zzbbswife/media/food%20and%20drink/doughnut.jpg.html)

I wasn't sure after the 2nd donut picture, but this is irrefutable. Trade Alex Smith for a Donut!

TASFD!!!

chiefzilla1501
08-29-2013, 05:57 AM
You're basing everything on a compliment a QBs coach made about his guy. Because QB coaches have a history of saying bad things about their players. I'm actually not sure why I said I never spoke badly about OSU players. I can't remember the last OSU player I pimped out. I don't think any recently.

I will say this. It does look like he fixed his mechanics. Good for him. Maybe he has changed his behavior. Good for him. But sorry, when it comes to attitude adjustments, I've been consistently tough on players. I've been critical of Bray's attitude too and have laughed at Chiefs' fans who claim he's a changed man because coaches have talked nicely about him. So let's not pretend I'm talking about a double standard.

Pryor looked very, very sharp against Chicago. But I need to see more to believe it. What I saw in OSU is he couldn't read defenses, stared down his first read, had a knack for mind-numbingly bad decisions especially when he starts throwing on the run or tries to make cross-body throws or make the impossible happen, he tends to take off at the first sign of duress, and he was an absolute mechanical nightmare when moving around and I sense that will come out once defenses start throwing things at him. And when things go bad, and in the NFL, things can get frustratingly bad real quick... is he going to be the spoiled, pouty guy he was at OSU? We'll see. For now, I say "yes."

If he figures it out, yes, he could be a scary player. Defenses will eventually scheme him. To me, that's when we figure out if Pryor has changed. For now, good for him for earning a starting job. But it's going to take more than preseason games against 2nd and 3rd team defenses to prove he's changed.


Damn dude, so you made up this complete lie about him:



which is directly refuted by his quarterbacks coach:



which in turn contradicts what you said earlier:



And now you've decided us to set us straight about what's really going to happen:



Hahaha, tell us more about this Pryor, oh wise, not-at-all bitter-hypocritical-and-manipulative one

lawrenceRaider
08-29-2013, 06:51 AM
Excellent back track and hedge.


You're basing everything on a compliment a QBs coach made about his guy. Because QB coaches have a history of saying bad things about their players. I'm actually not sure why I said I never spoke badly about OSU players. I can't remember the last OSU player I pimped out. I don't think any recently.

I will say this. It does look like he fixed his mechanics. Good for him. Maybe he has changed his behavior. Good for him. But sorry, when it comes to attitude adjustments, I've been consistently tough on players. I've been critical of Bray's attitude too and have laughed at Chiefs' fans who claim he's a changed man because coaches have talked nicely about him. So let's not pretend I'm talking about a double standard.

Pryor looked very, very sharp against Chicago. But I need to see more to believe it. What I saw in OSU is he couldn't read defenses, stared down his first read, had a knack for mind-numbingly bad decisions especially when he starts throwing on the run or tries to make cross-body throws or make the impossible happen, he tends to take off at the first sign of duress, and he was an absolute mechanical nightmare when moving around and I sense that will come out once defenses start throwing things at him. And when things go bad, and in the NFL, things can get frustratingly bad real quick... is he going to be the spoiled, pouty guy he was at OSU? We'll see. For now, I say "yes."

If he figures it out, yes, he could be a scary player. Defenses will eventually scheme him. To me, that's when we figure out if Pryor has changed. For now, good for him for earning a starting job. But it's going to take more than preseason games against 2nd and 3rd team defenses to prove he's changed.

AdumbGuy
08-29-2013, 09:09 AM
You're basing everything on a compliment a QBs coach made about his guy. Because QB coaches have a history of saying bad things about their players. I'm actually not sure why I said I never spoke badly about OSU players. I can't remember the last OSU player I pimped out. I don't think any recently.

I will say this. It does look like he fixed his mechanics. Good for him. Maybe he has changed his behavior. Good for him. But sorry, when it comes to attitude adjustments, I've been consistently tough on players. I've been critical of Bray's attitude too and have laughed at Chiefs' fans who claim he's a changed man because coaches have talked nicely about him. So let's not pretend I'm talking about a double standard.

Pryor looked very, very sharp against Chicago. But I need to see more to believe it. What I saw in OSU is he couldn't read defenses, stared down his first read, had a knack for mind-numbingly bad decisions especially when he starts throwing on the run or tries to make cross-body throws or make the impossible happen, he tends to take off at the first sign of duress, and he was an absolute mechanical nightmare when moving around and I sense that will come out once defenses start throwing things at him. And when things go bad, and in the NFL, things can get frustratingly bad real quick... is he going to be the spoiled, pouty guy he was at OSU? We'll see. For now, I say "yes."

If he figures it out, yes, he could be a scary player. Defenses will eventually scheme him. To me, that's when we figure out if Pryor has changed. For now, good for him for earning a starting job. But it's going to take more than preseason games against 2nd and 3rd team defenses to prove he's changed.

Well, no, that was just the first thing that came up when I googled terrelle pryor and work ethic. I've heard that said repeatedly about him that he's a hard worker. And you have to admit, that's not a cursory "player x is a solid prospect for us." The guy goes out of his way to praise him and the work he's doing. Also, just looked at it again, and that praise was from last year.

From this year:

"During the offseason, Pryor took it upon himself to keep improving by hiring three personal QB coaches to help him work on his mechanics. Included in the trio was Tom House, a former pitcher turned QB throwing coach who has worked with many NFL quarterbacks, including Tom Brady."

And from a Bill Williamson article on espn: Allen said Pryor is one of the teamís hardest workers and that his work ethic has exceeded Allen's expectations.

As for the rest of your response, now you're talking. Before that, I was starting to wonder if you were just parroting some hackneyed stereotype bullshit about black quarterback = dumb and lazy. Didn't get to see him much in OSU so all I know is that he won a lot and then had a scandal. I think his interception in the first preseason game came from a cross-body throw through like you mentioned so that'll be interesting to see if that's just a bad habit he needs to break.

I fully expect him to struggle, but I think he'll be exciting as hell to watch just from what I've seen so far. Definitely pulling for him now and hoping Bray can turn out similarly.

chiefzilla1501
08-29-2013, 10:09 AM
Excellent back track and hedge.

It isn't backtracking. He had enormous attitude and mechanical issues in college, and was terrible at reading defenses even against inferior B1G schools. Maybe he's matured. Maybe he's fixed those problems. The preseason game is encouraging in that the mechanics look better. Reports of his work ethic are encouraging, though of course his own brass is going to talk positively about him.

But we've seen this before. Players who light it up in the preseason then look lost when the defenses start dialing it up and adjusting to your game. We've seen egos like cam Newton taste success and then the attitude comes back.

There is too much of a story still left to write. I agree that what you are seeing is encouraging. But I need to see him piece this together for a sustained period of real regular season time before I start to believe it.

lcarus
08-29-2013, 11:15 AM
I wasn't sure after the 2nd donut picture, but this is irrefutable. Trade Alex Smith for a Donut!

TASFD!!!

Don't put any ideas in Andy's head. He damn well might do it. You get it? Because he's fat! LOL! :drool:

AdumbGuy
08-29-2013, 11:41 AM
Don't put any ideas in Andy's head. He damn well might do it. You get it? Because he's fat! LOL! :drool:

Hah, I'm fairly sure those reports that he was in love with McCluster was just a reporter mishearing McNuggets.

Mavericks Ace
08-29-2013, 11:46 AM
Hah, I'm fairly sure those reports that he was in love with McCluster was just a reporter mishearing McNuggets.

I heard it was he actually thought someone said he loved a CLUSTER of Ribs, and Brisket.....

and some how it came out as McCluster is a great FIT....

Jiu Jitsu Jon
08-29-2013, 06:59 PM
wo

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Down, Down+forward, forward + pass. Like the fireball motion on Street Fighter.