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KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 09:06 PM
That's pretty much what we wanted to see from him, isn't it? He made a couple rookie mistakes, (losing containment)... but he was beating guys he should beat. Sacked the QB... got a lot of pressure... Caused a fumble on ST.

I think his arrow's pointing up.

MIAdragon
08-19-2011, 09:07 PM
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Mr. Arrowhead
08-19-2011, 09:09 PM
and that play where taylor got around him, the only other qb that would have made that play is Vick

DA_T_84
08-19-2011, 09:10 PM
and that play where taylor got around him, the only other qb that would have made that play is Vick

racist

RedThat
08-19-2011, 09:11 PM
Definately the most impressive draft pick thus far. No question.

He is making the most of his opportunity. Losing containment on the QB is not a bad mistake. That happens even to the best of them.

Fish
08-19-2011, 09:18 PM
Taylor juked him pretty good. But he'll learn...

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 09:22 PM
Rewatching the game....Houston also stripped the ball on the Ravens punt fumble.

-King-
08-19-2011, 09:23 PM
That's pretty much what we wanted to see from him, isn't it? He made a couple rookie mistakes, (losing containment)... but he was beating guys he should beat. Sacked the QB... got a lot of pressure... Caused a fumble on ST.

I think his arrow's pointing up.

Rewatching the game....Houston also stripped the ball on the Ravens punt fumble.

Yah?

Shaid
08-19-2011, 09:25 PM
Rewatching the game....Houston also stripped the ball on the Ravens punt fumble.

I think that's why the OP said "caused a fumble on special teams" :thumb:

BossChief
08-19-2011, 09:26 PM
The kids first step is uncoachable.

You either have that or you dont.

Zeke
08-19-2011, 09:27 PM
I think that's why the OP said "caused a fumble on special teams" :thumb:

Careful, GoChiefs has been waiting to use his can all night.

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BossChief
08-19-2011, 09:31 PM
notice the cans empty

ba
dum
psssshhh

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 09:32 PM
The kids first step is uncoachable.

You either have that or you dont.

He's honestly going to be unfair against right tackles with Hali on the other edge....

BossChief
08-19-2011, 09:33 PM
laz called me a dumbass for calling 8-10 sacks for Houston as a rookie.

haha

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 09:35 PM
They should get Houston a few snaps with the 1st team next week.

Zeke
08-19-2011, 09:35 PM
He's honestly going to be unfair against right tackles with Hali on the other edge....

If anything, I would hope it'll open things up more for Dorsey and *gasp* Jackson to get more of an interior push in 1v1 matchups on Guards. Let's hope...

DTLB58
08-19-2011, 09:42 PM
They should get Houston a few snaps with the 1st team next week.

Yep, didn't they sneak him in on one play where he lined up next to Stude? He rushed unblocked but it was stopped cause of a illegal procedure or he would have knocked Flacco's lights out.

Frankie
08-19-2011, 09:42 PM
That's pretty much what we wanted to see from him, isn't it? He made a couple rookie mistakes, (losing containment)... but he was beating guys he should beat. Sacked the QB... got a lot of pressure... Caused a fumble on ST.

I think his arrow's pointing up.

"DON'T LOOK, ETHEL!!!"

Demonpenz
08-19-2011, 09:47 PM
yeah he is a baller.

Tribal Warfare
08-19-2011, 09:48 PM
Don't forget Powe " The Dragon Warrior" made some nice plays also to free him up too.

keg in kc
08-19-2011, 09:49 PM
Kinda hoping both he and Sheffield push Studebaker down the depth chart after tonight.

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 09:51 PM
Don't forget Powe " The Dragon Warrior".

The fuck?

I don't think this is catching on.

Chiefs Pantalones
08-19-2011, 09:51 PM
Kinda hoping both he and Sheffield push Studebaker down the depth chart after tonight.

Yeah was I the only one or did Studebaker look a little slow tonight to anyone else?

Demonpenz
08-19-2011, 09:52 PM
Rude Stude

keg in kc
08-19-2011, 09:52 PM
Yeah was I the only one or did Studebaker look a little slow tonight to anyone else?It's not just tonight.

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 09:54 PM
yeah he is a baller. I always have to second guess everything you post. Don't wanna get 'Penzed...lol

Demonpenz
08-19-2011, 09:56 PM
Vernon Golston will have to play 10 more years to get Houstons stats

Demonpenz
08-19-2011, 09:57 PM
the sack he got he was able to free and and attack at remarkable speed, pushed the dude off with one hand and attacked the qb in a milisecond it was impressive

DA_T_84
08-19-2011, 09:57 PM
Houston and Sheff both looked fast as hell.

Damn... we are just missing ONE starting piece on defense, and that is a MLB opposite DJ to help with coverage in that short 5-8 yard zone.

If we can get that, and add quality depth... dizammn.

Brock
08-19-2011, 10:00 PM
I think this defense will be adequate.

Tribal Warfare
08-19-2011, 10:02 PM
The fuck?

I don't think this is catching on.

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Kung Fu Panda, "Po"

BossChief
08-19-2011, 10:04 PM
haha, no.

aturnis
08-19-2011, 10:05 PM
Don't forget Powe " The Dragon Warrior" made some nice plays also to free him up too.

:spock:

Brock
08-19-2011, 10:06 PM
:spock:

Yeah, that's brutal.

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 10:07 PM
:spock:He's trying to beat Holthus for the "Worst Nick Names Ever" title.

Count Zarth
08-19-2011, 10:07 PM
Nothing like a nickname no one gets.

Tribal is going to use it all year I'm sure.

Tribal Warfare
08-19-2011, 10:07 PM
:spock:

post #31 explains it

Brock
08-19-2011, 10:08 PM
Oh, we get it.

RedThat
08-19-2011, 10:15 PM
I think this defense will be adequate.

Adequate? I'd like to know your reasoning.

This defense pretty much has all the components necessary to be really successful.

The DL looks good. We finally have a pretty good nose tackle that should make a difference.

We have the passrushers that can wreak havoc in the backfield.

Two stud corners, and a beast of a safety. Plus, a def co-ordinator that outscheme the **** out of anyone.

The only exception that I can think of is linebacker. We may not have the greatest set of interior linebackers but they aren't horrible either.

The only other setback I can think of for the defense is the offense.
Maybe we might see games where the offense stinks up the joint and the defense is forced to bail them out half the time or they are just on the field too long where they get tired and can't perform as well as they normally would? I don't know.

But I think this could be a top 10 D. The talent level is there.

Phobia
08-19-2011, 10:16 PM
I think he caused that fumble on special teams. I'm pretty sure.

But he got embarrassed too. Hopefully he'll learn from it.

Brock
08-19-2011, 10:17 PM
Adequate? I'd like to know your reasoning.

This defense pretty much has all the components necessary to be really successful.

The DL looks good. We finally have a pretty good nose tackle that should make a difference.

We have the passrushers that can wreak havoc in the backfield.

Two stud corners, and a beast of a safety. Plus, a def co-ordinator that outscheme the **** out of anyone.

The only exception that I can think of is linebacker. We may not have the greatest set of interior linebackers but they aren't horrible either.

The only other setback I can think of for the defense is the offense.
Maybe we might see games where the offense stinks up the joint and the defense is forced to bail them out half the time or they are just on the field too long where they get tired and can't perform as well as they normally would? I don't know.

But I think this could be a top 10 D. The talent level is there.

:facepalm:

Shaid
08-19-2011, 10:18 PM
:facepalm:

LMAO That's what I thought.

Phobia
08-19-2011, 10:18 PM
Don't forget Powe " The Dragon Warrior" made some nice plays also to free him up too.

Powe "The Bi-lingual Quasi-ninja Nazi Terminator" flows a little bit better, methinks.

RedThat
08-19-2011, 10:18 PM
:facepalm:

So, whats your reason as to why you think this will be an average D?

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 10:19 PM
:facepalm:Yeah... I got it.

Insert "over the head" gif or something?

Brock
08-19-2011, 10:19 PM
So, whats your reason as to why you think this will be an average D?

:facepalm: God, you're dumb.

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 10:20 PM
So, whats your reason as to why you think this will be an average D?He was understating it, intentionally.

RedThat
08-19-2011, 10:21 PM
He was understating it, intentionally.

well how the heck am I supposed to know that?

-King-
08-19-2011, 10:21 PM
So, whats your reason as to why you think this will be an average D?

Adequate =/= average

Brock
08-19-2011, 10:22 PM
well how the heck am I supposed to know that?

You probably better doggy paddle your way back over to the shallow end, Corky.

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 10:22 PM
well how the heck am I supposed to know that?Intarbweb savvy?

I dunno... you just know. :)

BossChief
08-19-2011, 10:24 PM
well how the heck am I supposed to know that?

The same way everybody else did.

Common sense.

aturnis
08-19-2011, 10:26 PM
well how the heck am I supposed to know that?

Common sense?

Phobia
08-19-2011, 10:26 PM
well how the heck am I supposed to know that?

Get with it, n00b!

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 10:27 PM
Common sense?That too.

RedThat
08-19-2011, 10:32 PM
I guess I don't know him that well. You guys probably know him better than me?

I don't come here often and hangout here all day long to catch on or to get a feel for how some posters are.

Tribal Warfare
08-19-2011, 10:35 PM
Nothing like a nickname no one gets.

Tribal is going to use it all year I'm sure.

Indeed, now you know why I tagged it that way

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 10:36 PM
I guess I don't know him that well. You guys probably know him better than me?

I don't come here often and hangout here all day long to catch on or to get a feel for how some posters are.It happens. Don't sweat it.

ArrowheadMagic
08-19-2011, 10:37 PM
Loses containment.... isnt going to set an edge against the run... but there arent many RT's in the league that will be able to deal with him rushing off the edge.

RedThat
08-19-2011, 10:37 PM
It happens. Don't sweat it.

True enough.

Phobia
08-19-2011, 10:43 PM
I don't come here often and hangout here all day long to catch on or to get a feel for how some posters are.

Oh, so now we're pathetic no-lifes? Shut up n00b!

RedThat
08-19-2011, 10:48 PM
Oh, so now we're pathetic no-lifes? Shut up n00b!

:grouphug: lets just all get along, okay?

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 10:50 PM
:grouphug: lets just all get along, okay?Phob's usually up for a "Dutch Rudder", if you're game.

Frankie
08-19-2011, 10:54 PM
Houston and Sheff both looked fast as hell.

Damn... we are just missing ONE starting piece on defense, and that is a MLB opposite DJ to help with coverage in that short 5-8 yard zone.

If we can get that, and add quality depth... dizammn.

Can Lofa Tatupu play 34? Did he sign anywhere?

ARROW2
08-19-2011, 10:56 PM
It's not just tonight.




Now does everybody see why I was so upset when he wasn't in camp? He is WAAAAAAAY more talented than Studebaker and it's not even close...

Tribal Warfare
08-19-2011, 11:00 PM
Now does everybody see why I was so upset when he wasn't in camp? He is WAAAAAAAY more talented than Studebaker and it's not even close...

Yes, the buttrape will be great for the opposition, when he truly gets the speed of the game down.

mcaj22
08-19-2011, 11:08 PM
Sheffield and Houston > Studebaker.

it's not even close

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 11:09 PM
Sheffield and Houston > Studebaker.

it's not even closeWell, that's two guys against one.

mcaj22
08-19-2011, 11:10 PM
Well, that's two guys against one.


so you're saying: Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles > Baldwin?

BossChief
08-19-2011, 11:12 PM
Sheffield and Houston > Studebaker.

it's not even close

as pass rushers, no question.

KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 11:14 PM
so you're saying: Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles > Baldwin?Yes?

WTF?

mcaj22
08-19-2011, 11:14 PM
as pass rushers, no question.



would you really say Studebaker is better against the run? I guess he wins by default in pass coverage but I don't know, Houston and Sheffield have a chance to learn pass coverage. Studebaker does not have that pass rush talent those guys can bring.

aturnis
08-19-2011, 11:14 PM
Can Lofa Tatupu play 34? Did he sign anywhere?

I don't know. Do you have a computer? Internet access?



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KcMizzou
08-19-2011, 11:15 PM
Keep it simple. I'm easily confused.

O.city
08-19-2011, 11:15 PM
our defense is gonna be very dynamic this year. And btw Belcher is a pretty good thumper in the middle. FFS he's in his third? full year and he looks better every game. He's gonna be a good one. Let him be

BossChief
08-19-2011, 11:20 PM
would you really say Studebaker is better against the run? I guess he wins by default in pass coverage but I don't know, Houston and Sheffield have a chance to learn pass coverage. Studebaker does not have that pass rush talent those guys can bring.

Right now, its all opinion because none of us have seen Andy as a starter before, nor have they seen Sheffield or Houston in that role...but I think Studebaker is better prepared to play the run at LOLB for now....Houston got his pants puled down a couple times tonight against the run. I didnt watch Sheffield as much against the run to make an accurate statement.

I wouldnt be a bit surprised to see Houston as a 3 down LOLB by years end. He needs to stay on the path he is on right now. He isnt ready to play against opposing starters and anchor against the run at this point.

O.city
08-19-2011, 11:22 PM
betting he will be in on pass downs and will be pinning his ears back like a dirty boi.

L.A. Chieffan
08-20-2011, 12:48 AM
im pumped about this dude. gonna go spark one up to celebrate

L.A. Chieffan
08-20-2011, 12:54 AM
That's pretty much what we wanted to see from him, isn't it? He made a couple rookie mistakes, (losing containment)... but he was beating guys he should beat. Sacked the QB... got a lot of pressure... Caused a fumble on ST.

I think his arrow's pointing up.

bro he had 2 sacks and almost had 4

Chocolate Hog
08-20-2011, 02:36 AM
Best player in this years draft.

suzzer99
08-20-2011, 03:29 AM
Lock for HOF

kstater
08-20-2011, 04:07 AM
Vernon Golston will have to play 10 more years to get Houstons stats

LMAO

xztop12
08-20-2011, 05:31 AM
I was incredibly impressed with Powe, nothing houston has done yet has surprised me. Just wait till he times one of those edge rushes and causes a pick 6

Smed1065
08-20-2011, 05:59 AM
He's honestly going to be unfair against right tackles with Hali on the other edge....

Nice to hear, from our team.

Smed1065
08-20-2011, 06:02 AM
Houston and Sheff both looked fast as hell.

Damn... we are just missing ONE starting piece on defense, and that is a MLB opposite DJ to help with coverage in that short 5-8 yard zone.

If we can get that, and add quality depth... dizammn.

Nice post. Been a while since we could even think that on D.

Smed1065
08-20-2011, 06:05 AM
well how the heck am I supposed to know that?


CP and sarcasm, Might be a new trend.

the Talking Can
08-20-2011, 06:12 AM
Houston causes priapism

CoMoChief
08-20-2011, 06:12 AM
we need a pot smoking game with Houston....he's the new kyle davies drinking game.

except everytime Houston makes a good defensive play, makes a sack, tackle, etc......you gotta spark one up and take a hit.

Should make Chiefs games more interesting to say the least.....

waddya yall say?

Justin Houston Pot Smoking Game?

griZZly64
08-20-2011, 06:31 AM
Who calls it pot nowadays? Are you like 50?

Smed1065
08-20-2011, 06:52 AM
OMG too funny.

milkman
08-20-2011, 07:19 AM
Right now, its all opinion because none of us have seen Andy as a starter before, nor have they seen Sheffield or Houston in that role...but I think Studebaker is better prepared to play the run at LOLB for now....Houston got his pants puled down a couple times tonight against the run. I didnt watch Sheffield as much against the run to make an accurate statement.

I wouldnt be a bit surprised to see Houston as a 3 down LOLB by years end. He needs to stay on the path he is on right now. He isnt ready to play against opposing starters and anchor against the run at this point.

The funny thing about Studebaker is that he's gotten a lot of mileage out of a couple of big plays against the Steelers a couple of years ago, plays that have perpetuated this myth that he is a great coverage backer.

Is he better than Houston and Sheffield at this point.

Yeah, but he isn't really all that good at it, finding himself out of position more often than not.

Those plays against the Steelers were both plays in which he was out of position.

Pure dumb luck.

philfree
08-20-2011, 09:19 AM
I like the play where Houston and Sheffield met at the QB. Didn't get the sack but Flacco almost threw a pick in the middle of the scrum.

YayMike
08-20-2011, 09:52 AM
I think this will be the year where we dont have to send more than 4 or 5 guys (Hali and Houston) to generate enough pressure to impact the quarterback. it will be a huge relief, and it will actually allow our DBs to have an extra LB dropping into coverage to limit the big plays. Over the past two years it seems all the big plays against our defense have come over the middle (see Heap in the playoff game last year) where an extra LB should be dropping but instead we have been sending that extra LB on the blitz. Just my two worthless cents..

durtyrute
08-20-2011, 10:10 AM
The fuck?

I don't think this is catching on.

Kung fu Panda....:thumb:

gblowfish
08-20-2011, 10:14 AM
He played great until his bong buzz wore off...

JASONSAUTO
08-20-2011, 10:27 AM
So now he's "the nickname whisperer" also?

it sucks as bad as his qb takes
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Von Dumbass
08-20-2011, 10:34 AM
The Ravens let Houston rush free to the QB and gave their third string FB the responsibility of blocking Houston on his sack. I want to see what he can do against a FIRST string RIGHT TACKLE.....

Halfcan
08-20-2011, 10:46 AM
The Ravens let Houston rush free to the QB and gave their third string FB the responsibility of blocking Houston on his sack. I want to see what he can do against a FIRST string RIGHT TACKLE.....

Oh you will see it- As teblow or Orton get smashed to the ground until they piss their pants and the mere sight of him!!!!!!!

Messier
08-20-2011, 10:51 AM
The Ravens let Houston rush free to the QB and gave their third string FB the responsibility of blocking Houston on his sack. I want to see what he can do against a FIRST string RIGHT TACKLE.....

The Ravens don't have a third string FB.

I think the Broncos might improve this year. Do you think they can climb up to finishing third in the division? I don't know. The Raiders will have to take a pretty big step back for the Broncos to overtake them. We'll see. Have a great season!

boogblaster
08-20-2011, 10:53 AM
think he'll be used for pass-rush .. covering wont be his cup of tea ....

DBOSHO
08-20-2011, 11:04 AM
The Ravens let Houston rush free to the QB and gave their third string FB the responsibility of blocking Houston on his sack. I want to see what he can do against a FIRST string RIGHT TACKLE.....

Whats miller done in the preseason?

Let me guess, blow past the starting right tackle every other play?

Mr. Laz
08-20-2011, 11:23 AM
think he'll be used for pass-rush .. covering wont be his cup of tea ....
we don't need another specialist

we need a linebacker that can stay out there on every play. Crennel has got to be tired of having guys who can only play one particular aspect of defense.

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-20-2011, 11:28 AM
The Ravens let Houston rush free to the QB and gave their third string FB the responsibility of blocking Houston on his sack. I want to see what he can do against a FIRST string RIGHT TACKLE.....

He'll waste that scrub Denver is trotting out there soon enough

RedThat
08-20-2011, 11:33 AM
we don't need another specialist

we need a linebacker that can stay out there on every play. Crennel has got to be tired of having guys who can only play one particular aspect of defense.

I wish we had a true mike backer. I think we lack a true field general on defense.

Im not sold on Belcher. I think he is backup/special team material.

Halfcan
08-20-2011, 11:44 AM
Who calls it pot nowadays? Are you like 50?

:D Like Far Out Man, maybe he can score a lid of Grass dude-lol

Buckweath
08-20-2011, 11:47 AM
I wish we had a true mike backer. I think we lack a true field general on defense.

Im not sold on Belcher. I think he is backup/special team material.

Every single team in the NFL has at least one starter that is at Belcher's level. Go take a look at madden ratings, you'll see every team has at least one defensive starter that is rated 77, just like Belcher.

You cannot have star players at every position, the important is that you have a few dominant players and the rest need to be good enough... no major liability.

The good thing with Belcher is that he is young and might still be improving a bit but we know he'll never be anything special.

IMO, the Chiefs defense is on the verge of being elite and there is no need to add any particular player at a certain position. I'm really not concerned with the rushing defense, really the only thing that is unsure is whether Justin Houston, Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey can improve a bit their passrushing game so that the passing defense can also be top 10.

Mr. Laz
08-20-2011, 11:50 AM
You cannot have star players at every position,
hate this saying

You should never stop TRYING to have a star player at every position.

jspchief
08-20-2011, 11:51 AM
Every single team in the NFL has at least one starter that is at Belcher's level. Go take a look at madden ratings, you'll see every team has at least one defensive starter that is rated 77, just like Belcher.

It's true. Madden rankings prove it.

Pablo
08-20-2011, 11:52 AM
hate this saying

You should never stop TRYING to have a star player at every position.Yeah man. We should just like, you know, buy the Pro-Bowl team. It's pretty easy to have a star at every position.

milkman
08-20-2011, 12:00 PM
I wish we had a true mike backer. I think we lack a true field general on defense.

Im not sold on Belcher. I think he is backup/special team material.

Belcher looks like he's ready to take the next step.

He didn't get lost in pass coverage last night, and he has outstanding discipline, instincts, and is a thumper against the run.

You need to watch a little closer.

Buckweath
08-20-2011, 12:02 PM
hate this saying

You should never stop TRYING to have a star player at every position.

The great defenses in the history of the game didn't have a star at every position.

I mean if the Chiefs can find a better player than Belcher in next year's draft, do it. But it's not like Belcher is really bad and what's more, he might improve.

NJChiefsFan
08-20-2011, 12:11 PM
The funny thing about Studebaker is that he's gotten a lot of mileage out of a couple of big plays against the Steelers a couple of years ago, plays that have perpetuated this myth that he is a great coverage backer.

Is he better than Houston and Sheffield at this point.

Yeah, but he isn't really all that good at it, finding himself out of position more often than not.

Those plays against the Steelers were both plays in which he was out of position.

Pure dumb luck.

I really agree with this. I am not saying Studebaker can't improve, but that near pick 6 against PIT for example, I always felt it was just a horrible pass more so than a great defensive play. I don't think anybody is really better for 3 downs right now, but I see no reason why Sheffield and Houston won't get the passing situations.

Count Zarth
08-20-2011, 12:14 PM
http://i51.tinypic.com/67rreg.jpg

RedThat
08-20-2011, 12:17 PM
Every single team in the NFL has at least one starter that is at Belcher's level. Go take a look at madden ratings, you'll see every team has at least one defensive starter that is rated 77, just like Belcher.

Yeah so what does that have to with anything? Big deal. I could of rated Tyson Jackson 77 last year or even Kendrick Lewis for that matter.


You cannot have star players at every position, the important is that you have a few dominant players and the rest need to be good enough... no major liability.

I agree. But I never said we have to have star players at every position.
We have some guys on this defense that have the potential to be dominant. But realistically, how many were probowlers last year? Zero. Thats right. Although, I do think hali was snubbed, and Berry will eventually get there.
Those two guys are our best players on D without a doubt.


The good thing with Belcher is that he is young and might still be improving a bit but we know he'll never be anything special.

True.

IMO, the Chiefs defense is on the verge of being elite and there is no need to add any particular player at a certain position. I'm really not concerned with the rushing defense, really the only thing that is unsure is whether Justin Houston, Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey can improve a bit their passrushing game so that the passing defense can also be top 10.

I agree we are on the verge of being an elite defense. The talent level is there at many positions. But you think there is no need to add any particular player at a certain position? Come on. You are not serious are you? We could definately use a MLB. And all Im saying is that I would want for my MLB to be damn good. Look, we were 14th in the league in rush defense last year. Not exactly good but not great either. If we had a MLB and a NT, those numbers would improve drastically. We improved at the nose, but I dont think we have the MLB to top it off.

Im not asking to have probowlers at every position on defense, and I think we have a lot of nice players on defense(who aren't stars btw) but good players. Dorsey, Gregg, Flowers, Carr, DJ, Houston are all nice players. But why not have a superstar at a critical position? MLB. If I'd like a star on defense, I'd like for it to be there. just imagine how GOOD this defense would be if we had a superstar MLB.

Von Dumbass
08-20-2011, 12:22 PM
Whats miller done in the preseason?

Let me guess, blow past the starting right tackle every other play?

Von Miller has played 10 snaps so far this preseason. VONDOOOOM are going to play the entire first quarter tonight so watch out!

Count Zarth
08-20-2011, 12:23 PM
Von Miller has played 10 snaps so far this preseason. VONDOOOOM are going to play the entire first quarter tonight so watch out!

You will be held to this. If Von Miller disappears, you will be roasted.

Von Dumbass
08-20-2011, 12:24 PM
He'll waste that scrub Denver is trotting out there soon enough

Franklin isn't known for his pass blocking and word in Denver is Von Miller is eating Franklin for lunch in 1 on 1 passrush drills.

Frankie
08-20-2011, 12:26 PM
The funny thing about Studebaker is that he's gotten a lot of mileage out of a couple of big plays against the Steelers a couple of years ago, plays that have perpetuated this myth that he is a great coverage backer.

Is he better than Houston and Sheffield at this point.

Yeah, but he isn't really all that good at it, finding himself out of position more often than not.

Those plays against the Steelers were both plays in which he was out of position.

Pure dumb luck.
Hey maybe we have a potential trade bait there before the trading deadline.

Von Dumbass
08-20-2011, 12:27 PM
You will be held to this. If Von Miller disappears, you will be roasted.

You should make a gif of Von Miller's first sack tonight.

Frankie
08-20-2011, 12:32 PM
Von Miller has played 10 snaps so far this preseason. VONDOOOOM are going to play the entire first quarter tonight so watch out!

"VONDOOOOM!!!!" ROFL

You know, I liked him in the draft, but aren't you shooting your wad a bit too prematurely?

Von Dumbass
08-20-2011, 12:33 PM
"VONDOOOOM!!!!" ROFL

You know, I liked him in the draft, but aren't you shooting your wad a bit too early?

Maybe, but this is the first top 5 pick Denver has had in almost 30 years I'm just excited to see what we got.

RedThat
08-20-2011, 12:34 PM
Belcher looks like he's ready to take the next step.

He didn't get lost in pass coverage last night, and he has outstanding discipline, instincts, and is a thumper against the run.

You need to watch a little closer.

Yes, but is he good enough to make this defense dominant?

I know that may sound dumb, or may be expecting to much at this point.

I want this defense to be elite. Like a really dominanting defense because as far as Im concerned we need to make up for not having the "quarterback."

*I can't see this team going in another direction at QB. We're stuck with Cassel. If we are stuck with him, Im hoping that we can be great everywhere else. Im looking at this from a grand scale.

Sorry for opening up a new can of worms there.

milkman
08-20-2011, 12:46 PM
Yes, but is he good enough to make this defense dominant?

I know that may sound dumb, or may be expecting to much at this point.

I want this defense to be elite. Like a really dominanting defense because as far as Im concerned we need to make up for not having the "quarterback."

*I can't see this team going in another direction at QB. We're stuck with Cassel. If we are stuck with him, Im hoping that we can be great everywhere else. Im looking at this from a grand scale.

Sorry for opening up a new can of worms there.

I can tell you this.

I saw a real raw kid that looked lost in his rookie season, but who showed some real promise with his atletic ability grown into a credible starter in his second, but who still looked lost in pass coverage.

Last night, I saw a kid who looked like he has grown in pass coverage, who was right there with his man when the pass was thrown.

This kid is coachable, has learned his responsibility, and has taken steps each season.

I absolutely believe he has the tools and the work ethic to get where he needs to be to help this defense get where it needs to be.

KChiefs1
08-20-2011, 12:49 PM
Houston and Sheff both looked fast as hell.

Damn... we are just missing ONE starting piece on defense, and that is a MLB opposite DJ to help with coverage in that short 5-8 yard zone.

If we can get that, and add quality depth... dizammn.

Siler?

-King-
08-20-2011, 12:50 PM
Our defense is solid. Tyson Jackson is really the only question mark out there and he's looked alright so far. Houston will be starting by week 5 and we can start raping shit.

KChiefs1
08-20-2011, 12:53 PM
Von Miller has played 10 snaps so far this preseason. VONDOOOOM are going to play the entire first quarter tonight so watch out!

I've been wanting to watch him...I know I really hoped the Chiefs would end up with him.

milkman
08-20-2011, 12:54 PM
Yes, but is he good enough to make this defense dominant?

I know that may sound dumb, or may be expecting to much at this point.

I want this defense to be elite. Like a really dominanting defense because as far as Im concerned we need to make up for not having the "quarterback."

*I can't see this team going in another direction at QB. We're stuck with Cassel. If we are stuck with him, Im hoping that we can be great everywhere else. Im looking at this from a grand scale.

Sorry for opening up a new can of worms there.

Think about this.

While the first unit defense was on the field, including DJ and Belcher, Ray Rice averaged about 3 yards a carry.

With Silar, who I like, and DeMorrio Williams out there, Rice busted out his 26 yard TD, which featured Williams losing his gap discipline.

Belcher and DJ, both, did an outstanding job of maitaining their gap discipline, and Rice never found a hole to run to.

Siler?

BossChief
08-20-2011, 05:40 PM
The funny thing about Studebaker is that he's gotten a lot of mileage out of a couple of big plays against the Steelers a couple of years ago, plays that have perpetuated this myth that he is a great coverage backer.

Is he better than Houston and Sheffield at this point.

Yeah, but he isn't really all that good at it, finding himself out of position more often than not.

Those plays against the Steelers were both plays in which he was out of position.

Pure dumb luck.

Question.

On both of those plays, it seemed he simply dropped back into a zone and once Ben started his throwing motion, he made a move toward the closest receiver and then made a play on the ball. Granted that it didnt take a big move and on one of them the ball was basically thrown right at him...but he made the play.

What gives you the impression that he was out of position those plays? To me, both looked like he just dropped into his cover 2 zone.

Also, I read a report that showed that either 10 or 11 of Halis sacks came while Studebaker was on the field with him and only 4 1/2 of them were when Vrabel was on the field. That has to account for something as well....but Houston has basically made that a mot point, I guess.

milkman
08-20-2011, 05:45 PM
Question.

On both of those plays, it seemed he simply dropped back into a zone and once Ben started his throwing motion, he made a move toward the closest receiver and then made a play on the ball. Granted that it didnt take a big move and on one of them the ball was basically thrown right at him...but he made the play.

What gives you the impression that he was out of position those plays? To me, both looked like he just dropped into his cover 2 zone.

Can't remember both plays exactly, but on the one, he was in his zone, but to far outside when the receiver came into his area.

Had Hali not hit Roethlisberger's elbow on that play, Studebaker would not have been nearly close enough to make a play.

The other one, he nearly tripped over his own feet trying to keep up, and Roethlisberger just made a bad read.