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Jim Jones
08-26-2011, 02:07 PM
I've got the No. 3 pick in a big money draft tonight...almost 100% sure Foster and Peterson go 1 and 2...3rd spot I'm in a bit of a pickle. CJ seems like the obvious choice but I'm worried about his holdout and workload over the last couple years, combined with Titans having no passing game to speak of.


Would it be completely insane to take Ray Rice over him?

Pestilence
08-26-2011, 02:11 PM
Ray Rice > Chris Johnson

epitome1170
08-26-2011, 02:12 PM
Ray Rice > Chris Johnson

Yet, you think Rodgers is greater than Ray Rice?

Jim Jones
08-26-2011, 02:17 PM
Ray Rice > Chris Johnson

Out of curiosity, do you think Ray Rice could have a bigger year than Peterson? I just realized I may pick 2nd instead. It's a coin flip between me and another guy. I'm assuming Foster goes 1.

Pestilence
08-26-2011, 02:21 PM
I don't like Adrian Peterson this year....but that's my opinion. McNabb is fucking done and people are going to be stacking the box against the Vikings. Ray Rice has a better offensive line, a better QB and a better group of WRs.

Predarat
08-26-2011, 02:23 PM
This Chris Johnson thing is probably going to linger into the season, so I would not take him at all in the 1st round and would even have to consider passing him in the 2nd round, though im sure someone will grab him in the 1st.

SNR
08-26-2011, 02:27 PM
I love having the 3rd pick in one of my leagues. I get possibly the best fantasy player (it's a toss up between Foster and Rice, IMO) and I get a chance to grab a great WR on the turnaround in the 2nd.

MoreLemonPledge
08-26-2011, 03:34 PM
I would honestly choose Rice #1 regardless of format. He's in a good, run-first offense with a great run-blocking offensive line, but Flacco has a good enough arm that defenses won't be able to constantly stack the box. He just got the best run-blocking FB in the entire NFL. The Ravens have a great defense so theoretically they won't be throwing the ball to catch up very often. He is also a plus pass catcher.

The biggest thing about Rice, however, is McGahee is gone. Ricky Williams is absolutely no threat to steal goal line carries (or any carries at all, really). The Ravens coaching staff flat out said that they will not take Rice out of the game unless he specifically asks.

I haven't done the math, but I'm sure if you add up all production from Ravens RBs since Rice entered the league you would find the best overall RB in fantasy. This is his year to break out.

OnTheWarpath58
08-26-2011, 03:43 PM
I've done three mocks today, and he's been taken 2nd once and 3rd twice.

Sofa King
08-26-2011, 03:45 PM
I've done three mocks today, and he's been taken 2nd once and 3rd twice.

I've also seen Blount going in the 2nd round. LMAO

People just don't give a shit on the mock drafts.

OnTheWarpath58
08-26-2011, 03:52 PM
I've also seen Blount going in the 2nd round. LMAO

People just don't give a shit on the mock drafts.

You could justify Rice going Top 3.

You absolutely, under no circumstances, could justify Blount going in R2.

Brock
08-26-2011, 03:52 PM
The Ravens will be much, much better offensively than the Titans will. That said, I expect CJ to hit the ground running.

MoreLemonPledge
08-26-2011, 03:56 PM
I like Blount this year. I could see somebody justifying him early round 3 definitely.

He ran for 1,007 yds and scored 6 TDs last year... but he didn't get double digit carries until week 7. And he was a rookie. And he didn't get signed to TB until late in the preseason last year if memory serves correct. And he has no legit threat to steal carries. And he's been catching more balls in the preseason. And his QB has a hell of an arm.

Blount has plenty of upside.

Old Dog
08-27-2011, 03:19 PM
You absolutely, under no circumstances, could justify Blount going in R2.

His ADP is currently 3.02 in 12 team leagues, so he isn't far out of R2.
I'm NOT saying I would take him there, but apparently a lot of folks do.

SNR
08-27-2011, 05:30 PM
For some reason Blount looked slow in our preseason opener

ChiefsandO'sfan
08-31-2011, 11:53 AM
ChrisJohnson28Chris Johnson

Can these fake Titan fans STFU on my timeline I don't have a regular job so don't compare me to you and I can care less if uthink I'm greedy

SNR
08-31-2011, 04:23 PM
I'm drafting 3rd in one league. The two guys ahead of me are by-the-book players who will likely go in order of the rankings. That meant Ray Rice was as good as mine, which I was pleased as punch about. Unfortunately Arian's going out of the mix. I may have to reach on McCoy/Charles now.

Pestilence
08-31-2011, 04:31 PM
I'm drafting 3rd in one league. The two guys ahead of me are by-the-book players who will likely go in order of the rankings. That meant Ray Rice was as good as mine, which I was pleased as punch about. Unfortunately Arian's going out of the mix. I may have to reach on McCoy/Charles now.

I'm at #4 and Peterson/Foster are guaranteed to go #1/#2. I'm trying to play as many mind games as possible with the guy at #3. I keep texting him that he better not draft Charles.

MoreLemonPledge
08-31-2011, 04:37 PM
I got him in an auction for less than Foster (out for 3-4 weeks), Rice (who I admit is a stud), Charles, Peterson, Mendenhall, and $2 less than Gore. Seriously. Fucking value pick.

Urc Burry
08-31-2011, 04:40 PM
Chris Johnson this year reminds me a lot of the year Larry Johnson held out

MoreLemonPledge
08-31-2011, 04:52 PM
Chris Johnson this year reminds me a lot of the year Larry Johnson held out

Not even close.

Urc Burry
08-31-2011, 04:57 PM
Not even close.

Year 1: Both have ridiculous year YPC wise
Year 2: Both get force fed the ball... YPC drops
Year 3: Both holdout through camp..LJ plays in 8 games disappointment. I feel thats coming for CJ this year


Chris Johnson's body can not take the amount of carriers they are giving him, it will catch up with him

Bump
08-31-2011, 11:42 PM
take Jamaal Charles or Tom Brady IMO

Setsuna
09-02-2011, 12:47 PM
Ray Rice. He has Leach to make those huge gaps. Essentially Arian Foster did so well because of Leach. He will still do well, but not as well.

ngoc
09-07-2011, 02:45 AM
RB's like Ray Rice and Jamal Charles will be more valuable. In my league, all TD's are 6 points so I always go for a big time QB. I have found I can piece together a RB core that is serviceable enough to win games.