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Jenson71
09-10-2011, 07:16 PM
Last November, someone gave my girlfriend a bottle of Belgium, flavored beer. It's been sitting on the counter, not the fridge, since that time, including during hot summer with no air conditioner.

Should this still taste right? I won't be able to tell myself, because to me, all beer tastes pretty bad.

Baconeater
09-10-2011, 07:17 PM
No, but you should drink it anyway.

ChiefsNow
09-10-2011, 07:19 PM
It depends, how are you and your girlfriend getting along?

kstater
09-10-2011, 07:20 PM
What's the beer?

threebag02
09-10-2011, 07:21 PM
Never save beer.






Drink it ASAP.

Bwana
09-10-2011, 07:22 PM
Last November, someone gave my girlfriend a bottle of Belgium, flavored beer. It's been sitting on the counter, not the fridge, since that time, including during hot summer with no air conditioner.

Should this still taste right? I won't be able to tell myself, because to me, all beer tastes pretty bad.

First of all, beer foul! Second, chill it down and give it a shot, it's not like it will hurt you, if it has a little skunk. If that's the case, give it a toss.

DaFace
09-10-2011, 07:25 PM
In most cases, it should be fine. Depends on the type of beer, though.

Jenson71
09-10-2011, 07:25 PM
What's the beer?

Framboise Lambic

AustinChief
09-10-2011, 07:25 PM
It really depends on a what beer it is.. if it is "bottle-conditioned" it is probably better aged... if not, it is probably not gonna be too good.

Luckily, quite a few Belgian beers are, so you may be in good shape.

kstater
09-10-2011, 07:26 PM
Framboise Lambic

You'll be fine.

Bwana
09-10-2011, 07:26 PM
In most cases, it should be fine. Depends on the type of beer, though.

Yep, if it's a clear bottle, he's likely hosed, if not, he should be ok.

Jenson71
09-10-2011, 07:27 PM
You'll be fine.

:clap:

Good news. Thanks for the information, gentlemen. I will be more careful in the future.

Jenson71
09-10-2011, 07:27 PM
Yep, if it's a clear bottle, he's likely hosed, if not, he should be ok.

Good, it's a dark bottle.

ThatRaceCardGuy
09-10-2011, 07:29 PM
Only a p***y would ask if a beer is okay to drink after sitting around for a year..a real man would just...WAIT, did you just really say you dont like beer?

DaFace
09-10-2011, 07:29 PM
Framboise Lambic

Hmm...I'd wonder about a lambic. The fruit juices in there probably aren't very happy with being left out for so long. What's the % ABV? Alcohol is a preservative, so if it's a high-end beer that's 10% alcohol, you're probably fine. If it is a little 4% kind of deal, it's probably too late.

Regardless, I'd still give it a try, but it may not be optimal.

KcMizzou
09-10-2011, 07:30 PM
Never save beer.

Drink it ASAP.

Beer spoils overnight. That's why you have to be sure you drink it all.

Jenson71
09-10-2011, 07:30 PM
Only a p***y would ask if a beer is okay to drink after sitting around for a year..a real man would just...WAIT, did you just really say you dont like beer?

I like free, cold beer at weddings.

Baconeater
09-10-2011, 07:31 PM
Beer spoils overnight. That's why you have to be sure you drink it all.
Words to live by. :thumb:

ThatRaceCardGuy
09-10-2011, 07:32 PM
I like free, cold beer at weddings.

I like beer...beer likes me...its a symbiotic relationship

AustinChief
09-10-2011, 07:33 PM
Framboise Lambic

Not only should it be good, it has aged in the bottle and is probably even better then if you had it last year.

stevieray
09-10-2011, 07:33 PM
...they drink warm beer in Bavaria.

...do a shot after each drink to squelch any preconcieved notions of spoiling...o:-)

MIAdragon
09-10-2011, 07:34 PM
just put some salt n it.

AustinChief
09-10-2011, 07:34 PM
Hmm...I'd wonder about a lambic. The fruit juices in there probably aren't very happy with being left out for so long. What's the % ABV? Alcohol is a preservative, so if it's a high-end beer that's 10% alcohol, you're probably fine. If it is a little 4% kind of deal, it's probably too late.

Regardless, I'd still give it a try, but it may not be optimal.

It "should" be bottle-conditioned so it will actually age in the bottle and create a smoother more "rounded" beer over the course of a few years... I think it has a 5 year shelf life... but don't quote me on that.

JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 07:35 PM
I dont like beer. Never have. just the smell will just about make me toss my cookies.
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Jenson71
09-10-2011, 07:35 PM
Hmm...I'd wonder about a lambic. The fruit juices in there probably aren't very happy with being left out for so long. What's the % ABV? Alcohol is a preservative, so if it's a high-end beer that's 10% alcohol, you're probably fine. If it is a little 4% kind of deal, it's probably too late.

Regardless, I'd still give it a try, but it may not be optimal.

Yeah, it's 4%.

DaFace
09-10-2011, 07:35 PM
It "should" be bottle-conditioned so it will actually age in the bottle and create a smoother more "rounded" beer over the course of a few years... I think it has a 5 year shelf life... but don't quote me on that.

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm digging around, and it appears that most of those are. So...regardless...it's beer. Drink it.

DaFace
09-10-2011, 07:36 PM
Yeah, it's 4%.

If it's bottle conditioned like others have mentioned, I bet it's higher than that now. :)

MIAdragon
09-10-2011, 07:36 PM
I dont like beer. Never have. just the smell will just about make me toss my cookies.
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AustinChief
09-10-2011, 07:36 PM
Yeah, you're probably right. I'm digging around, and it appears that most of those are. So...regardless...it's beer. Drink it.

truer words have never been spoken!

Red Beans
09-10-2011, 07:36 PM
No, but you should drink it anyway.

Do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwana
09-10-2011, 07:37 PM
I dont like beer. Never have. just the smell will just about make me toss my cookies.
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Ok Jason, turn it in! :D

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoH_JYgqJoS4vgFJXB5JOKCPRpncyb21mwM5ery93Ph2ifOMls3Q

Jenson71
09-10-2011, 07:37 PM
Well guys, I think I'm going to put it in the fridge for the Chiefs game tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it goes.

ThatRaceCardGuy
09-10-2011, 07:38 PM
Well guys, I think I'm going to put it in the fridge for the Chiefs game tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it goes.


You cant now...your man license just got revoked.

Jenson71
09-10-2011, 07:39 PM
You cant now...your man license just got revoked.

It's either drink that, or my usual strawberry daquiri wine cooler.

RJ
09-10-2011, 07:40 PM
If you neglect your beer your beer will neglect you.

MIAdragon
09-10-2011, 07:41 PM
Well guys, I think I'm going to put it in the fridge for the Chiefs game tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it goes.

well now know you know if you vomit tomorrow it wont be from the beer.

AustinChief
09-10-2011, 07:42 PM
You cant now...your man license just got revoked.

Just to be clear here... that is the "beer" of choice from my girlfriend before the last one... it is FAR FAR from being a beer... think of it as an old school European version of a Mike's Hard Lemonade ...

It is extremely fruity.

In Jenson's defense... free "beer" is free beer....

PS Framboise translates to Raspberry

JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 07:43 PM
Ok Jason, turn it in! :D

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoH_JYgqJoS4vgFJXB5JOKCPRpncyb21mwM5ery93Ph2ifOMls3Q

Trust me it sucks.

Getting drunk would be much cheaper.

I bet I can drink with the best cp has to offer buddy lol
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JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 07:45 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sU9vHZVWJTE/TcBiaEH2QLI/AAAAAAAAA-w/EdbOCHuikrw/s1600/skirt.jpg
Yeah I'm a tequila straight guy.
Or straight vodka.

Or straight jack.

I think I'm allright
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Bwana
09-10-2011, 07:45 PM
Trust me it sucks.

Getting drunk would be much cheaper.

I bet I can drink with the best cp has to offer buddy lol
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LMAO

Let me guess, Crown?

http://www.aspiringgentleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/crown-royal.jpg

JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 07:47 PM
LMAO

Let me guess, Crown?

http://www.aspiringgentleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/crown-royal.jpg
Not usually. But it will work.

I can drink literally ANYTHING else. And lots of it. But just not beer. Never have been able to.
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Bwana
09-10-2011, 07:48 PM
Yeah I'm a tequila straight guy.
Or straight vodka.

Or straight jack.

I think I'm allright
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Damn! You get your man card back.

ThatRaceCardGuy
09-10-2011, 07:48 PM
LMAO

Let me guess, Crown?

http://www.aspiringgentleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/crown-royal.jpg

This is what gets me going in the AM!

Bwana
09-10-2011, 07:49 PM
This is what gets me going in the AM!

Breakfast of champions. :eek:

JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 07:51 PM
Damn! You get your man card back.

And it doesn't matter what kind. Cheapest most expensive ill hit em all. It's my favorite right now.
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threebag02
09-10-2011, 07:51 PM
Well guys, I think I'm going to put it in the fridge for the Chiefs game tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it goes.

Get Joosed

Jenson71
09-10-2011, 07:52 PM
Get Joosed

That stuff is banned in my state, I think.

Bwana
09-10-2011, 07:54 PM
And it doesn't matter what kind. Cheapest most expensive ill hit em all. It's my favorite right now.
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At one point, years ago, I did shots of "ta kill ya" but it's not my thing at this point in life. They only thing I can't drink is Sothern Comfort/Yukon Jack. I got sick on SC when I was 18, and just the smell of that will damn near make me yack, to this day.

threebag02
09-10-2011, 07:56 PM
That stuff is banned in my state, I think.

Might cover up the taste.

threebag02
09-10-2011, 07:57 PM
At one point, years ago, I did shots of "ta kill ya" but it's not my thing at this point in life. They only thing I can't drink is Sothern Comfort/Yukon Jack. I got sick on SC when I was 18, and just the smell of that will damn near make me yack, to this day.

This. Or even just seeing it being shaken in the bottle.

Bwana
09-10-2011, 07:59 PM
This. Or even just seeing it being shaken in the bottle.

It's some nasty vile swill, for sure. :Lin:

JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 08:05 PM
At one point, years ago, I did shots of "ta kill ya" but it's not my thing at this point in life. They only thing I can't drink is Sothern Comfort/Yukon Jack. I got sick on SC when I was 18, and just the smell of that will damn near make me yack, to this day.

See beer did that to me when I was 12.

First time drinking and went WAY overboard.
Drank got real drunk.
Ran from the police got caught punched up a little and then drank quite a bit more.

Then puked for what seemed like a month.

My friends are all a coupleof years older so I had to keep up to be respected, and I did. Always.

We all are still good friends, hell one works for me, and we all had a great laugh over it at my house on labor day.


Good times.
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Bwana
09-10-2011, 08:14 PM
See beer did that to me when I was 12.

First time drinking and went WAY overboard.
Drank got real drunk.
Ran from the police got caught punched up a little and then drank quite a bit more.

Then puked for what seemed like a month.

My friends are all a coupleof years older so I had to keep up to be respected, and I did. Always.

We all are still good friends, hell one works for me, and we all had a great laugh over it at my house on labor day.


Good times.
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Yeah, I was at a keg and had a big bottle of Southern Comfort with me. I was drinking that, along with a lot of beer. I downed about half of it, while draining numerous brews. I remember things starting to spin, before talking to the beast. That was the last time I have ever yacked from alcohol and also the last time I had SC. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/211077_227768027257039_40936_n.jpg

ThatRaceCardGuy
09-10-2011, 08:19 PM
See beer did that to me when I was 12.

First time drinking and went WAY overboard.
Drank got real drunk.
Ran from the police got caught punched up a little and then drank quite a bit more.

Then puked for what seemed like a month.

My friends are all a coupleof years older so I had to keep up to be respected, and I did. Always.

We all are still good friends, hell one works for me, and we all had a great laugh over it at my house on labor day.


Good times.
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I got drunk one night off of Crazy horse and MD 20/20 when I was 16 ..aint been right sense..

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
09-10-2011, 08:23 PM
Yeah, I was at a keg and had a big bottle of Southern Comfort with me. I was drinking that along with a lot of beer. I downed about half of it, along with the beer. I remember things starting to spin, before talking to the beast. That was the last time I have ever yacked from alcohol and also the last time I had SC. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/211077_227768027257039_40936_n.jpg


Darn you all about your talk of beer and whiskey.

Now I had to go pour myself a double of "Old Pulteney" 12 Single Malt.

Bwana
09-10-2011, 08:24 PM
Darn you all about your talk of beer and whiskey.

Now I had to go pour myself a double of "Old Pulteney" 12 Single Malt.

Nice! :thumb:

JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 08:28 PM
only other one would be jager.

my buddy owned a bar and loved that shit. 27 shots in and I thought I was gonna die. A couple of days of puking and shitting black put an end to my jaeger days
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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
09-10-2011, 08:30 PM
Nice! :thumb:

Well, it was either that or open the bottle of Pendryn Gold (Welsh Single Malt) or the Yamakazi 12 (Japanese Single Malt).

Really, really enjoy the Pendryn and I've heard a lot of good stuff about Japanese single malts.

Already know I like the Irish (Redbreast) and the New Zealand (Milford) ones.

kysirsoze
09-10-2011, 08:33 PM
It "should" be bottle-conditioned so it will actually age in the bottle and create a smoother more "rounded" beer over the course of a few years... I think it has a 5 year shelf life... but don't quote me on that.

This applies at cellar temperatures. Sitting through a hot summer with no AC is a HUGE variable. It probably killed of the yeast left in there. I know when brewing, yeast that gets too warm can go "wild" and ruin a beer. I doubt it would be that severe in the bottle since it's deprived of oxygen, but I'm not really sure. I do know that heat can mess with the alpha acid from hops which makes the beer taste skunky. The again, that's not a remotely hoppy beer so...

Bottom line: Just drink it and you tell us.

JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 08:34 PM
I went to a kroenke wedding a couple of years ago. And got hooked on patron. Good shit.

We partied like a mother fucker that night buddy. Free drinks from like 5 pm until we hit the shuttle to the hotel at 5 am and they were handing us bottles on the way out the door.

probably the most awesome thing I've ever witnessed, the caterers had done a coors family wedding a couple of weeks prior and said we drank them under the table.

Supposedly like a 10 million dollar wedding
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RJ
09-10-2011, 08:40 PM
At one point, years ago, I did shots of "ta kill ya" but it's not my thing at this point in life. They only thing I can't drink is Sothern Comfort/Yukon Jack. I got sick on SC when I was 18, and just the smell of that will damn near make me yack, to this day.


Heh, same here with the SC. My 18th birthday was the only time in my life I blacked out. I was sick for 3 days. Haven't taken a sip of the stuff since.

crispystl420
09-10-2011, 08:47 PM
I went to a kroenke wedding a couple of years ago. And got hooked on patron. Good shit.

We partied like a mother ****er that night buddy. Free drinks from like 5 pm until we hit the shuttle to the hotel at 5 am and they were handing us bottles on the way out the door.

probably the most awesome thing I've ever witnessed, the caterers had done a coors family wedding a couple of weeks prior and said we drank them under the table.

Supposedly like a 10 million dollar wedding
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Damn sounds like a good freaking time.

JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 08:49 PM
Damn sounds like a good freaking time.

Dude it was. Damn...
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BillSelfsTrophycase
09-10-2011, 08:51 PM
Drink first, ask questions later grasshopper

JASONSAUTO
09-10-2011, 08:52 PM
I had to get something from the hotel and kareem rush and his s.o. Are on the shuttle with me. Shes wasted and I end up helping him get her to the room and ride the shuttle back with him to party some more.

IT was EARLY at that point, like nine lol
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Mr. Laz
09-10-2011, 08:52 PM
skunk beer never hurt anybody ... just chug that shit

Jenson71
09-12-2011, 11:08 PM
Update: It tasted great. Almost like grape pop.

Reaper16
09-12-2011, 11:14 PM
Update: It tasted great. Almost like grape pop.
That's exactly what Lindemans Framboise is (I am assuming that you drank Lindemans, as it is by far the most widely available "lambic") -- a raspberry soda pop (with some alcohol).

It tastes fine, but it is not a good example of Lambic. True Lambic beer is never sugared up with artificial sweetener like Lindemans or Boon or etc. lambics are.

If you want true Lambic -- one of Earth's best beverages -- find a bottle from brewers/blenders like Cantillon or Drie Fonteinen.

Jenson71
09-12-2011, 11:24 PM
Yep, it was Lindemans. I suppose I could try the real stuff sometime. I think there is a grocer here that has tons of beer from all over the world. http://www.johnsgrocery.com/

Jenson71
09-12-2011, 11:25 PM
Here are my options:

Cantillion Classic Geuze Belgium Lambic $14.99 (750ml)
Cantillion Gueze Belgium Lambic $8.99 (375 ml)
Cantillion Kriek Belgium Lambic $16.99 (1-750 mL)
Cantillon Rose de Gambriuns Belgium Lambic $16.99 (1-750 mL.)
Cassissona Italy Lambic $11.99 (1-750 mL.)
Cherish Framboise Belgium Lambic $2.99 (1-8.5 oz)
Cherish Kriek Belgium Lambic $2.99 (1-8.5 oz)
Cuvee De Ranke Belgium Lambic $12.99 (750 ml)
Drie Fonteinen Doesje Belgium Lambic $29.99 (1-750 ml)
Drie Fonteinen Gueuze Belgium Lambic $17.99 (1-750 mL)
$9.99 (1-375 mL)
Drie Fonteinen Kriek Belgium Lambic $11.99 (1-375 mL)
Drie Fonteinen Schaerbeekse Kriek Belgium Lambic $39.99 (1-750 mL)
Haandbakk Norway Lambic $9.99 (1-16.9 oz)
Hanssens Experimental Cassis Belgium Lambic $14.99 (1-375 mL)
Hanssens Experimental Raspberry Belgium Lambic $14.99 (1-375 mL)
Hanssens Kriek Belgium Lambic $16.99 (1-750 mL)
Hanssens Oudbeitje Belgium Lambic $10.99 (1-375 mL)
$104.99 (12-375 mL)
Hanssens Oude Gueuze Belgium Lambic $17.99 (1-750 mL)
Hanssens Scar Kriek Belgium Lambic $22.99 (1-375 mL)
Liefman's Cuvee Brut Belgium Lambic $9.99 (1-750 mL)
Liefman's Fruitesse Belgium Lambic $8.99 (1-750 mL)
Liefman's Gouden Belgium Lambic $9.99 (1-750 mL)
Lindemans Cases Belgium Lambic $109.99 (12-750 mL)
Lindemans Cassis Belgium Lambic $9.99 (1-750 mL)
Lindeman's Cassis Belgium Lambic $6.99 (1-375ml)
Lindemans Cuvee Rene Belgium Lambic $10.99 (1-750 mL)
Lindemans Cuvee Rente Belgium Lambic $6.99 (1-12 oz)
Lindemans Faro Belgium Lambic $5.99 (1-12 oz)
Lindemans Framboise Belgium Lambic $6.99 (1-375 mL)
$9.99 (1-750 mL)
Lindemans Kriek Belgium Lambic $109.99 (12-750 mL)
$6.99 (1-375 mL)
$8.99 (1-750 mL)
Lindemans Peche Belgium Lambic $109.99 (12-750 mL)
$6.99 (1-375 mL)
$8.99 (1-750 mL)
Lindemans Pomme Belgium Lambic $8.99 (1-750 mL)
$6.99 (1-375 mL)
Oud Beersel Framboise Belgium Lambic $9.99 (1-375 mL)
Oud Beersel Oude Gueze Belgium Lambic $13.99 (1-750 mL)
Oud Beersel Oude Kriek Belgium Lambic $15.99 (1-750 mL)
St Louis Peche Belgium Lambic $6.99 (1-375 mL)
St. Louis Fruit Lambics Belgium Lambic $9.99 (1-750 mL)
$9.99 (1-750 mL)
St. Louis Kriek Belgium Lambic $9.99 (1-750 mL)

Reaper16
09-12-2011, 11:31 PM
Cantillon, Drie Fonteinen, and Hannsens are the real deal. Extremely complex, dry, funky, sour Lambic.

I love John's Grocery. I dropped $300 last November at John's, because they had tons of Cantillon and Fantome and Drie Fonteinen that had been sold out for a long time in Kansas City (or pretty much elsewhere). They had some bottles of 2003 Fantome Pissenlit (a farmhouse ale brewed with dandelions), and I bought all six of them without a second's hesitation.

Jenson71
09-12-2011, 11:32 PM
I'm going to buy this for my Lambic

http://www.johnsgrocery.com/Images/ProductShots/Breweriana/Full/Flute_Lindemans.jpg

Reaper16
09-12-2011, 11:34 PM
Champagne flutes are good lambic glasses. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have that exact Lindemans-branded flute.

Bump
09-12-2011, 11:34 PM
Never save beer.






Drink it ASAP.

not always true.

I'm aging some imperial IPA's right now and have been for almost a year. It shouldn't be kept in high heat though, but if it has enough alcohol content, some beers can get better with age.

Reaper16
09-12-2011, 11:38 PM
not always true.

I'm aging some imperial IPA's right now and have been for almost a year. It shouldn't be kept in high heat though, but if it has enough alcohol content, some beers can get better with age.
Which IIPAs? That is a style that, except for a rare few cases that take on a Barleywine character with age, gets markedly worse by the week, let alone the month.