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ChiefsandO'sfan
09-11-2011, 03:59 PM
Berry's injury could be serious





Chiefs safety Eric Berry left Sunday's game in the first half with a knee injury, and he didn't return in Kansas City's 41-7 loss to Buffalo.

Chiefs coach Todd Haley said afterward that he didn't yet know the extent of Berry's injury.

But there was concern inside the locker room that the injury could be serious. Berry was tended to earlier in the contest before returning; a few minutes later, the second-year safety was helped off the field.

Bwana
09-11-2011, 04:00 PM
Well shit.

Josef Mengele
09-11-2011, 04:00 PM
Probably better if it is serious. I am not sure his hype could justify being on the field with the rest of those pud lickers.

Phobia
09-11-2011, 04:01 PM
It's okay. I really enjoy watching McGraw playing LB.

CrazyPhuD
09-11-2011, 04:01 PM
Well if you're going to fuck a season, no sense in doing it half assed.

Rain Man
09-11-2011, 04:01 PM
Any time a guy goes down without being touched, it's usually serious. However, Berry didn't appear to be in a lot of pain, so I'm hoping this is the exception to the rule.

But if he is out, we've got Piscitelli to step in and ... oh, who am I kidding? We're screwed.

beach tribe
09-11-2011, 04:02 PM
OMG. If Berry is seriously hurt we are in real trouble. I want to kill S. Johnson right now.

Count Alex's Losses
09-11-2011, 04:02 PM
I'd like to see Stevie Johnson suffer a career ending injury. In this career and future careers.

Micjones
09-11-2011, 04:02 PM
I hope it's not.
Safety might be the position with the worst depth quality on the entire team.

CrazyPhuD
09-11-2011, 04:02 PM
It's okay. I really enjoy watching McGraw playing LB.

Is it too late to trade a 7th for Taylor Mays? Our 7th should almost be a 6th.

Thig Lyfe
09-11-2011, 04:02 PM
He's just doing his part to help us get Luck.

Easy 6
09-11-2011, 04:03 PM
McGoo, Scabby & Jerry Lewis... and i had such high hopes for the year.

beach tribe
09-11-2011, 04:03 PM
Any time a guy goes down without being touched, it's usually serious. However, Berry didn't appear to be in a lot of pain, so I'm hoping this is the exception to the rule.

But if he is out, we've got Piscitelli to step in and ... oh, who am I kidding? We're screwed.

He was touched. S. Johnson cut blocked him right in the side of the knee.

Gravedigger
09-11-2011, 04:04 PM
That reciever who took his legs out from behind needs to be castrated for being a bitch.

KC native
09-11-2011, 04:04 PM
We're fucked if he's out for the season or an extended period of time. Once he went out, the bills went right at mcgraw and piscatelli.

Rain Man
09-11-2011, 04:04 PM
He was touched. S. Johnson cut blocked him right in the side of the knee.

The first time he was down? I couldn't see what happened. I was thinking about the second time.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 04:04 PM
I would be pretty upset if it's serious.

He's my favorite defensive player in the league. That's just me personally. I love his upside. I love his potential. I love his physical play, and playmaking ability. I've been following him since his freshman year at Tennessee. He's amazing.

I would feel similar to how Colts fans feel about not getting to see Manning play this year.

Bewbies
09-11-2011, 04:05 PM
If he's out for the year you can probably add 3-4 games to our loss column because of how far our defense will fall.

Von Dumbass
09-11-2011, 04:05 PM
Damn that sucks. Dude played every defensive/special teams snap of every game last year and he goes out and gets hurt in the first game of the season.

BigMeatballDave
09-11-2011, 04:06 PM
If he's out for the year you can probably add 3-4 games to our loss column because of how far our defense will fall.More excuses for Matt Cassel.

Thig Lyfe
09-11-2011, 04:07 PM
If he's out for the year you can probably add 3-4 games to our loss column because of how far our defense will fall.

So 19-20 games?

Bewbies
09-11-2011, 04:07 PM
More excuses for Matt Cassel.

I would trade an 0-16 season to get rid of him. Probably throw in Dorsey, Bowe and someone else that's good too if it would help. LMAO

Bowser
09-11-2011, 04:08 PM
Damn that sucks. Dude played every defensive/special teams snap of every game last year and he goes out and gets hurt in the first game of the season.

It's the way he went down. Steve Johnson totally blindsided him with a cut block twenty yards down the field.

FAX
09-11-2011, 04:09 PM
Damn. Not good.

FAX

Bewbies
09-11-2011, 04:10 PM
So 19-20 games?

I suppose 0-20 is possible if you count the preseason. :D

beach tribe
09-11-2011, 04:11 PM
We're ****ed if he's out for the season or an extended period of time. Once he went out, the bills went right at mcgraw and piscatelli.

This. I know I've been hard on the people who have given up on the season, but if Berry is out, we're in deep shit.

KCChiefsFan88
09-11-2011, 04:13 PM
Pioli has some great karma going on with his first rounders...

Baldwin is out, Berry is now out and T Jackson plays like he's out.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 04:14 PM
Pioli has some great karma going on with his first rounders...

Baldwin is out, Berry is now out and T Jackson plays like he's out.

Yeah cause Pioli broke Baldwins thumb, and Pioli took out Berry's knees.

You're a fucking dumb ass cum guzzling fuck stick. Fuck your mother, and die in a fucking aids tree fire.

Okie_Apparition
09-11-2011, 04:15 PM
They let him play on it & he couldn't for long. I'll wait for the official word before pissing & moaning

HBKChiefs
09-11-2011, 04:15 PM
Seemed to me like it could have been a torn ligament.

Rain Man
09-11-2011, 04:16 PM
Pioli has some great karma going on with his first rounders...

Baldwin is out, Berry is now out and T Jackson plays like he's out.

You should've gone with "Baldwin is out, Berry is now out and T Jackson's not."

Bowser
09-11-2011, 04:16 PM
Seemed to me like it could have been a torn ligament.

Pretty safe statement, considering he collapsed without being touched.

Psyko Tek
09-11-2011, 04:16 PM
If he's out for the year you can probably add 3-4 games to our loss column because of how far our defense will fall.

we cannot have negative number of wins

KCChiefsFan88
09-11-2011, 04:17 PM
Yeah cause Pioli broke Baldwins thumb, and Pioli took out Berry's knees.

You're a ****ing dumb ass cum guzzling **** stick. **** your mother, and die in a ****ing aids tree fire.

Dumb shit clean up in the "Head up Clark Hunt's Ass" aisle.

You are probably one of the braindead zombies who were expecting something different than what transpired today.

Dickless Chiefs homers such as yourself deserve today.

Tribal Warfare
09-11-2011, 04:36 PM
The loss today sucks ,but if Berry is seriously injured that just makes me sick to my stomach in how much that will fuck up the defense

Demonpenz
09-11-2011, 04:38 PM
Pioli was serious when he said he wanted a saftey like Bob Sanders

KC Hawks
09-11-2011, 04:40 PM
I would be pretty upset if it's serious.

He's my favorite defensive player in the league. That's just me personally. I love his upside. I love his potential. I love his physical play, and playmaking ability. I've been following him since his freshman year at Tennessee. He's amazing.

I would feel similar to how Colts fans feel about not getting to see Manning play this year.

I feel the exact same way. I'm expecting a monster season out of him, and I would be devastated if he is seriously injured. Moreso than anyone else on the team.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 04:42 PM
Pioli was serious when he said he wanted a saftey like Bob Sanders

:shake:

Thats not even funny.

lcarus
09-11-2011, 04:43 PM
Pioli was serious when he said he wanted a saftey like Bob Sanders

LMAO

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 04:43 PM
:shake:

Thats not even funny.

LMAO

You're not helping.

Tribal Warfare
09-11-2011, 04:44 PM
:shake:

Thats not even funny.

this

Chiefs Pantalones
09-11-2011, 04:44 PM
Speaking of injuries, is it wrong of me to hope Cassel gets injured so we don't have to see his crappy play anymore? Lol

lcarus
09-11-2011, 04:45 PM
You all aren't seeing the Scott Pioli secret master evil plan. He's saying **** this season. Berry faked an injury so we can save him for next year. In the meantime, he's gonna allow Cassel to get killed (wouldn't be surprised if he was assassinated by a sniper from the jumbotron...you think a guy named Pioli doesn't have ties to assassins?). Then we can get Luck next year. Boom. Multiple Super Bowls.

lcarus
09-11-2011, 04:46 PM
You're not helping.

Sorry I just have to laugh at things to help me cover up the anger and disappointment.

JASONSAUTO
09-11-2011, 04:48 PM
Pioli was serious when he said he wanted a saftey like Bob Sanders

Might as well just stop with this shit. Werent you the one who said he would be out with an acl before he got cut blocked?
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Demonpenz
09-11-2011, 04:54 PM
Might as well just stop with this shit. Werent you the one who said he would be out with an acl before he got cut blocked?
Posted via Mobile Device

With Berry with an ACL torn sucks because they may not be the same when they come back.

notorious
09-11-2011, 05:02 PM
Johnson should have his knee taken out, too.

CaliforniaChief
09-11-2011, 05:04 PM
Johnson should have his knee taken out, too.

This. That was really out of line, in my opinion.

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 05:04 PM
With Berry with an ACL torn sucks because they may not be the same when they come back.

Can you just shut the fuck up already?

JASONSAUTO
09-11-2011, 05:06 PM
Can you just shut the fuck up already?

This
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BmoreBills
09-11-2011, 05:08 PM
I'd like to see Stevie Johnson suffer a career ending injury. In this career and future careers.

So you are blaming Stevie Johnson because Berry was injured after planting his foot wrong and not being touched, in addition to wishing a player be hurt???

Wow. Just wow.

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 05:09 PM
So you are blaming Stevie Johnson because Berry was injured after planting his foot wrong and not being touched, in addition to wishing a player be hurt???

Wow. Just wow.

You watched the play you stupid bastard. He was hurt on the Johnson bullshit cut block and then tried to play through it.

kcpasco
09-11-2011, 05:09 PM
With all the cluster fuck that happened today.

Berry being hurt concerns me the most.

notorious
09-11-2011, 05:09 PM
So you are blaming Stevie Johnson because Berry was injured after planting his foot wrong and not being touched, in addition to wishing a player be hurt???

Wow. Just wow.

Johson fucking cutblocked the side of his knee the play before.


Dirty fucking piece of shit!

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 05:10 PM
You watched the play you stupid bastard. He was hurt on the Johnson bullshit cut block and then tried to play through it.

Shouldn't that have been a penalty anyways?

Demonpenz
09-11-2011, 05:11 PM
So you are blaming Stevie Johnson because Berry was injured after planting his foot wrong and not being touched, in addition to wishing a player be hurt???

Wow. Just wow.

It's just one of those weeks dude. Nothing personal. You will see alot of wishing for Bills to get aids and such on here

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 05:11 PM
Shouldn't that have been a penalty anyways?

Should be. He came behind Berry on the play.

notorious
09-11-2011, 05:12 PM
Shouldn't that have been a penalty anyways?

Yes, but how often are illegal cut blocks called in the open?

Demonpenz
09-11-2011, 05:13 PM
Yes, but how often are illegal cut blocks called in the open?

you can't block below the waste

BmoreBills
09-11-2011, 05:14 PM
Johson ****ing cutblocked the side of his knee the play before.


Dirty ****ing piece of shit!

I disagree... it was a physical play that ended badly for Berry on which there was NO penalty on (because it is still illegal) and Stevie Johnson has no prior examples of dirty play to speak of.

I don't see it... he's not Bill Romanowski!!!!

kcpasco
09-11-2011, 05:16 PM
So when can we expect an injury report on Berry?

Demonpenz
09-11-2011, 05:16 PM
I disagree... it was a physical play that ended badly for Berry on which there was NO penalty on (because it is still illegal) and Stevie Johnson has no prior examples of dirty play to speak of.

I don't see it... he's not Bill Romanowski!!!!

even if Johnson was a dirty player the league probably would just be like Meh it's buffalo, they'll be toronto's problem soon

notorious
09-11-2011, 05:16 PM
I disagree... it was a physical play that ended badly for Berry on which there was NO penalty on (because it is still illegal) and Stevie Johnson has no prior examples of dirty play to speak of.

I don't see it... he's not Bill Romanowski!!!!

Taking a shot at our best players knee in the open is the very definition of a dirty play.


Dirty play = Dirty Player


Besides, there isn't a player in NFL history that can compare to Criminowski.


I am very frustrated, but that play really set me off. There was no reason for him to go at his knee like he did.

notorious
09-11-2011, 05:17 PM
Helmet-to-helmet hit = 50,000



Blowing up a players knee with a cheap shot = Nothing to see here

mcaj22
09-11-2011, 05:18 PM
yea that play was worse than when shitty Joe Mays went after Tony Moeaki with club elbow to the helmet on an onside kick last season

Chiefs Pantalones
09-11-2011, 05:18 PM
So when can we expect an injury report on Berry?

Never. Even if he is out for the year the mofia won't tell you lol

Count Alex's Losses
09-11-2011, 05:19 PM
I disagree... it was a physical play that ended badly for Berry on which there was NO penalty on (because it is still illegal) and Stevie Johnson has no prior examples of dirty play to speak of.

I don't see it... he's not Bill Romanowski!!!!

He is now.

I hope Stevie Johnson transforms into a plane and crashes into a building made out of Stevie Johnson clones.

BmoreBills
09-11-2011, 05:28 PM
Taking a shot at our best players knee in the open is the very definition of a dirty play.


Dirty play = Dirty Player


Besides, there isn't a player in NFL history that can compare to Criminowski.


I am very frustrated, but that play really set me off. There was no reason for him to go at his knee like he did.

I don't think you'd see it that way if Dwayne Bowe did it to Drayton Florence, because to me it is football if there is no flag and no mention of it after the game and beyond. It is only mentioned here... I don't get it.

notorious
09-11-2011, 05:30 PM
I don't think you'd see it that way if Dwayne Bowe did it to Drayton Florence, because to me it is football if there is no flag and no mention of it after the game and beyond. It is only mentioned here... I don't get it.

Come on, man. Really?


The Bills dominated today, and showed that they are a far better team. As for cheap shots, I am the first one to get pissed at Chiefs players if they do it. It's Bush League, and there is no room for that shit on the field.

HBKChiefs
09-11-2011, 05:34 PM
He is now.

I hope Stevie Johnson transforms into a plane and crashes into a building made out of Stevie Johnson clones.

Real classy 9/11 reference there douchbag. ITS JUST FOOTBALL! Get over yourself!

Chocolate Hog
09-11-2011, 05:39 PM
Real classy 9/11 reference there douchbag. ITS JUST FOOTBALL! Get over yourself!

Shutup you Vag.

WilliamTheIrish
09-11-2011, 05:41 PM
So you are blaming Stevie Johnson because Berry was injured after planting his foot wrong and not being touched, in addition to wishing a player be hurt???

Wow. Just wow.

Are you serious? Johnson cut him on the first drive. Went right at his knee.

Easy 6
09-11-2011, 05:42 PM
God, if its even half serious... with whats behind him?

Crushing.

WilliamTheIrish
09-11-2011, 05:44 PM
I'd also like to say that I can't gauge intent, so burning a SJ in effigy is a little premature.

Chocolate Hog
09-11-2011, 05:54 PM
I'd also like to say that I can't gauge intent, so burning a SJ in effigy is a little premature.

What about giving up on this season?

Chiefaholic
09-11-2011, 05:56 PM
Leave it to our "classy" Bills fans to act as if it wasn't a sorrry ass cheap shot that takes out our best guy on defense with a shot that has the potential to end a guy's career. Berry is one of the few bright spots on this team and I hope Johnson gets a similar injury of his own by a different cheap shot artist in the league.

WilliamTheIrish
09-11-2011, 06:03 PM
What about giving up on this season?

If the season needs to burn in effigy, I can do that.

O.city
09-11-2011, 06:04 PM
Any news on this front?

Dayze
09-11-2011, 06:06 PM
Real classy 9/11 reference there douchbag. ITS JUST FOOTBALL! Get over yourself!

:rolleyes:
GMAFB

Frosty
09-11-2011, 06:27 PM
Berry was standing on the sideline in uniform during the second half. Seems like if it was serious, he wouldn't have been out there.

notorious
09-11-2011, 06:29 PM
Berry was standing on the sideline in uniform during the second half. Seems like if it was serious, he wouldn't have been out there.

Thank God.


If he blew his knee all the way, he wouldn't have came back on the field, either.



.....holding my breath........

Priest31kc
09-11-2011, 06:33 PM
Thank God.


If he blew his knee all the way, he wouldn't have came back on the field, either.



.....holding my breath........

Hopefully its just a sprain or something.....seems like he could be out a few weeks no matter what tho. Which blows.

BossChief
09-11-2011, 07:01 PM
Cheapshot?

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/berry.gif

should be shot up with antifreeze 4 this one

Bump
09-11-2011, 07:03 PM
100% of throws towards our safeties were completed. Every fucking time.

Eric Berry is to our defense what Peyton Manning is to the Colts.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 07:03 PM
Berry was standing on the sideline in uniform during the second half. Seems like if it was serious, he wouldn't have been out there.

So was Moeaki, I believe.

Chocolate Hog
09-11-2011, 07:03 PM
And we didn't get back at Johnson? Fuck this soft ass team.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 07:04 PM
100% of throws towards our safeties were completed. Every fucking time.

Eric Berry is to our defense what Peyton Manning is to the Colts.

Even Flowers wasn't quite the same.

notorious
09-11-2011, 07:04 PM
Fags

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 07:04 PM
And we didn't get back at Johnson? Fuck this soft ass team.

No we let that bitch score a TD.

O.city
09-11-2011, 07:04 PM
And we didn't get back at Johnson? **** this soft ass team.

No shit. Someone should have picked him on the back end when he stopped a route and put a helmet on his knee.

mcaj22
09-11-2011, 07:05 PM
cut scabby piscitelli (official thread)

stony
09-11-2011, 07:22 PM
wow, w/ the video, it looks even more clean. wipe your vag.

Agent V
09-11-2011, 07:24 PM
wow, w/ the video, it looks even more clean. wipe your vag.

Helmet to the leg is clean?

iowachieffan
09-11-2011, 07:27 PM
Can we just tank the rest of the season and get Luck??????

Rain Man
09-11-2011, 07:29 PM
Eh, it wasn't a dirty hit. Not manly, but not dirty.

Let's worry more about winning the next 15 games.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 07:35 PM
Eh, it wasn't a dirty hit. Not manly, but not dirty.

Let's worry more about winning the next 15 games.

What do you think of the intent?

Mr_Tomahawk
09-11-2011, 08:15 PM
Are there any updates on this?

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 08:17 PM
How do we already have updates on Kaeding and Castillo, but not Berry?

Oh yeah, we're fans of the Chiefs.

DRU
09-11-2011, 08:17 PM
Has it been confirmed his knee is the problem? I was thinking it looked like a groin from what I saw at the game.

The first time he came off he was holding his groin (I thought) and walking around the way you would with that sort of an injury.

He tried to play through it and fell, again limping the way I've seen people limp with a groin problem.

While on the sideline it looked like they were working his knee, but I think that's just the same sort of motion you use to work the groin.

So I could be completely wrong, but my call is a groin. How bad is anybody's guess.

O.city
09-11-2011, 08:19 PM
He had ice on the outside of his knee. hopefully it is just a bruise or something from the helmet to the knee.

O.city
09-11-2011, 08:19 PM
He walked around the sideline in the first half, sit on the table, talked to Lewis and other dbacks. He didn't come back out in the second half I don't think. I dunno by then I didn't really care about hte game much.

DRU
09-11-2011, 08:20 PM
He had ice on the outside of his knee. hopefully it is just a bruise or something from the helmet to the knee.

Oh. Didn't see that.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 08:20 PM
Go Chiefs...Can you make a gif of Berry the second time he went down? His knee just collapsed. Did NOT look good at all. Looked very weak after taking the cut block.

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 08:20 PM
They aren't icing an ACL tear, nor is the guy standing on the sidelines with it.

It's probably a sprain.

OctoberFart
09-11-2011, 08:26 PM
Stay down bitch! Quoted from go queer

Discuss Thrower
09-11-2011, 08:28 PM
Looked to me that it was a calf problem with the way they iced his leg but what do I know.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 08:29 PM
They aren't icing an ACL tear, nor is the guy standing on the sidelines with it.

It's probably a sprain.

What are the signs and symptoms of a possible ACL tear?

The famous "pop" is the most telling symptom of an ACL injury, although you may have a tear without ever experiencing the pop. The injury is usually followed by considerable pain and swelling within the first several hours. You may develop a feeling of instability in the knee or "giving way", making walking difficult.
What should I do if I think I have an ACL tear?

Immediately after an injury think RICE: Rest Ice Compression Elevation. Then see your doctor.

http://nemsi.uchc.edu/clinical_services/orthopaedic/sportsmedicine/faqs/faqs_acl.html#diagnosis2

It's gotta be an ACL tear.

I already hate this season.

DA_T_84
09-11-2011, 08:30 PM
It hit Outside and pushed Inside.. Is that ACL typically?

Chocolate Hog
09-11-2011, 08:31 PM
They said Moeakis was a calf at first too on 101.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 08:34 PM
It hit Outside and pushed Inside.. Is that ACL typically?

Ask Tom

http://www.foundrysportsmedicine.com/Portals/65775/images/1220844151.jpg

Brainiac
09-11-2011, 08:35 PM
It hit Outside and pushed Inside.. Is that ACL typically?

Yes. Doesn't necessarily mean it's torn, though.

Messier
09-11-2011, 08:42 PM
Can we stop the, Welp, that's it... he's out for the year, talk until we know something?

DA_T_84
09-11-2011, 08:42 PM
well fuck

Mr_Tomahawk
09-11-2011, 08:43 PM
Welp... :hmmm:

lcarus
09-11-2011, 08:43 PM
Can we stop the, Welp, that's it... he's out for the year, talk until we know something?

The way our franchise gives info to the media, we may not know Berry is out for the season until the ****ing season is over. "Yep...he was out for season"

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 08:44 PM
The way our franchise gives info to the media, we may not know Berry is out for the season until the ****ing season is over. "Yep...he was out for season"

LMAO Yep. That's the problem. They might never tell us. Just keep him on the injury report making us think he has a chance to come back.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-11-2011, 08:45 PM
The way our franchise gives info to the media, we may not know Berry is out for the season until the ****ing season is over. "Yep...he was out for season"

See: Johnathan Baldwin

lcarus
09-11-2011, 08:47 PM
LMAO Yep. That's the problem. They might never tell us. Just keep him on the injury report making us think he has a chance to come back.

That actually may be the smart thing to do for once. Last thing we want is for our opponents to know we'll be starting Piscitelli and McGraw at safety. Shit, list Berry as ****ing probable every week for all I care. At least don't let the other team know they hit the "passing game jackpot" until they're out on the field.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 08:47 PM
See: Johnathan Baldwin

"Baldwin did not play tonight due to injury. Baldwin did not play tonight due to injury."

Q: Did Thomas Jones and Baldwin have an altercation in the locker room?

A: "I don't understand the question"

LMAO

Thig Lyfe
09-11-2011, 08:51 PM
http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/berry.gif

Hmm, his knee looks a lot like Homer's in that episode where he tears his ACL. I'd say he's done.

BmoreBills
09-11-2011, 08:52 PM
Eh, it wasn't a dirty hit. Not manly, but not dirty.

Let's worry more about winning the next 15 games.

Still even now there are NO stories of Steve Johnson laying out a 'cheap block' to Berry, not in the press conferences, not in the local papers, not in national stories. I'm sorry, but he's innocent of the charges of playing dirty...

BryanBusby
09-11-2011, 08:54 PM
Oh tell me more Armchair Doctors

Bewbies
09-11-2011, 08:58 PM
Still even now there are NO stories of Steve Johnson laying out a 'cheap block' to Berry, not in the press conferences, not in the local papers, not in national stories. I'm sorry, but he's innocent of the charges of playing dirty...

Go away.

Urc Burry
09-11-2011, 08:59 PM
I'll guess it's an acl sprain and he's out 5-6 weeks... I don't think the trainers would of let him back in the game if it was that bad

Gadzooks
09-11-2011, 09:01 PM
Can we just tank the rest of the season and get Luck??????

Welcome to ChiefsPlanet.

mcaj22
09-11-2011, 09:11 PM
Ill guess tommy john surgery in his throwing arm and he wont be back until December 2012.

Chiefaholic
09-11-2011, 09:32 PM
Still even now there are NO stories of Steve Johnson laying out a 'cheap block' to Berry, not in the press conferences, not in the local papers, not in national stories. I'm sorry, but he's innocent of the charges of playing dirty...

Do you really have to read somebody's opinion when there's a gif right above your previous post where you can come to your own conclusion? I personally hope this is his last season in the NFL. I could give a rats ass if the hit is technically "legal", that shit ends careers and needs addressed if kickoff returns was a problem.

WhiteWhale
09-11-2011, 09:35 PM
When Moeaki got injured I posted something elsewhere that it happens and all that shit.

I went on to use Berry as an example of a season ending injury that would ruin our entire season completely.

I hope to god he's not injured too badly. Berry was the main catalyst for our improvement last season on defense, and with those two clowns back there giving up big plays we're going to go backwards really far, really fast.

One really weak position in the secondary can ruin an entire defense.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 09:35 PM
:deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::dee vee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee:

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 09:38 PM
When Moeaki got injured I posted something elsewhere that it happens and all that shit.

I went on to use Berry as an example of a season ending injury that would ruin our entire season completely.

I hope to god he's not injured too badly. Berry was the main catalyst for our improvement last season on defense, and with those two clowns back there giving up big plays we're going to go backwards really far, really fast.

One really weak position in the secondary can ruin an entire defense.

Having 2 suck ass safeties will make our great CB's look like shit because they will be forced to play even further off the LOS. Because if a receiver gets behind them, it's game over. Kendrick Lewis is ok. But he's gonna have to realllly step up. He's not physical enough to me. Not a good tackler. The best tackler on our team might be Brandon Flowers, or maybe Tamba Hali.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 09:38 PM
Cut blocks are legal as long as the player has an opportunity to hurdle the block. They are only really illegal when done from behind and at the LOS.

DA_T_84
09-11-2011, 09:40 PM
Cut blocks are legal as long as the player has an opportunity to hurdle the block. They are only really illegal when done from behind and at the LOS.

He comes from the side and behind.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 09:41 PM
Cut blocks are legal as long as the player has an opportunity to hurdle the block. They are only really illegal when done from behind and at the LOS.

lol. They have to have an opportunity to "hurdle" the block. I love it.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 09:43 PM
He comes from the side and behind.

So being about five yards in front of him is behind..so now in football we have to make sure that if the player isn't looking we can't hit them...It was a legal and clean hit..like it or now.

Gadzooks
09-11-2011, 09:43 PM
:deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::dee vee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee:

The Buffalo Sabres suck balls.
How's your MLB team doing?

Bewbies
09-11-2011, 09:44 PM
As if getting Cassel wasn't punishment enough, Benard Pollard has bit us in the ass again.

WhiteWhale
09-11-2011, 09:44 PM
Having 2 suck ass safeties will make our great CB's look like shit because they will be forced to play even further off the LOS. Because if a receiver gets behind them, it's game over. Kendrick Lewis is ok. But he's gonna have to realllly step up. He's not physical enough to me. Not a good tackler. The best tackler on our team might be Brandon Flowers, or maybe Tamba Hali.

The best tackler on our team, imo, is Eric Berry. He's totally textbook. Flowers is great as well.

Lewis made some pretty costly mistakes today.

We simply can't play good defense without Eric Berry. Not with this roster. If he's out for an extended period, it's going to hurt. You can't scheme to cover up that kind of deficiency. No DC is that good.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 09:46 PM
The Buffalo Sabres suck balls.
How's your MLB team doing?

Educated response huh...my mlb team is in first place in the American League!! Go Yankees!! Next response please!!

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 09:47 PM
The best tackler on our team, imo, is Eric Berry. He's totally textbook. Flowers is great as well.

Lewis made some pretty costly mistakes today.

We simply can't play good defense without Eric Berry. Not with this roster. If he's out for an extended period, it's going to hurt. You can't scheme to cover up that kind of deficiency. No DC is that good.

Yeah EB is a great tackler. I'm actually basing what I said off of a fact of last year. Brandon Flowers missed 1 tackle all season in 2010. That's why I named him.

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 09:48 PM
So being about five yards in front of him is behind..so now in football we have to make sure that if the player isn't looking we can't hit them...It was a legal and clean hit..like it or now.

What the fuck are you even watching?

He was behind him and cracked back. How the fuck could Berry even have the chance to avoid the block?

shsabres
09-11-2011, 09:50 PM
What the **** are you even watching?

He was behind him and cracked back. How the **** could Berry even have the chance to avoid the block?

It's called "Field Awareness". You know if it was the other way around you would be celebrating your player for a "great hit". No matter what. I think that Eric Berry going down is the LEAST of your issues. At least from what I was watching.

Rams Fan
09-11-2011, 09:51 PM
:deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::dee vee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee:

How about that Ryan Miller?
owait.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 09:52 PM
Cut Block Rule:
Cut blocks are legal mainly in the open field. This allows the defensive player an opportunity to avoid or hurdle the block. The main area in which a cut block is not legal is in the trenches. The trenches are considered the area where offensive and defensive linemen square off against one another at the line of scrimmage

shsabres
09-11-2011, 09:53 PM
How about that Ryan Miller?
owait.

Hockey season hasn't' started...and who says that I am a Buffalo Sabres fan?? Swing and a miss....just cus my name has sabres in it...hahahahahhahaha

Dayze
09-11-2011, 09:55 PM
Hockey season hasn't' started...and who says that I am a Buffalo Sabres fan?? Swing and a miss....just cus my name has sabres in it...hahahahahhahaha

you Buffalo folk...so sly. lol!!!11111lzzzz.

WhiteWhale
09-11-2011, 09:56 PM
It's called "Field Awareness". You know if it was the other way around you would be celebrating your player for a "great hit". No matter what. I think that Eric Berry going down is the LEAST of your issues. At least from what I was watching.

You are an idiot who obviously doesn't realize how many yards the Bills gained as a direct result of Berry NOT being there.

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 09:56 PM
It's called "Field Awareness". You know if it was the other way around you would be celebrating your player for a "great hit". No matter what. I think that Eric Berry going down is the LEAST of your issues. At least from what I was watching.

You clearly are fucking stupid and understand very little about football if you think that losing a stud safety, who covers those TEs, and is the most sure tackler on the team isn't a huge issue.

It was a dirty hit, but I woudn't expect a fan of the opposing team to recognize that. Enjoy your 6 days in the sun. Congrats on the win.

But at the end of the day, you're a Buffalo fan. Have fun in Canada in a few years.

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 09:57 PM
Hockey season hasn't' started...and who says that I am a Buffalo Sabres fan?? Swing and a miss....just cus my name has sabres in it...hahahahahhahaha

Yes, how stupid of us for thinking you are a sabres fan because you have sabres in your name.

You know what else? We think Ram fan like the Rams.

Clearly, we are the dumb ones.

Go fucking break your ankle on your sloped field.

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 09:59 PM
Cut Block Rule:
Cut blocks are legal mainly in the open field. This allows the defensive player an opportunity to avoid or hurdle the block. The main area in which a cut block is not legal is in the trenches. The trenches are considered the area where offensive and defensive linemen square off against one another at the line of scrimmage

So when Warren Sapp cut blocked Chad Clifton a few years ago, that was legal too?

It was a dirty hit. Shove your bullshit explanations up your ass.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:00 PM
I am not surprised to see the whining. I forgot you guys were Super Bowl bound with Berry. Maybe you lost because your Defense couldn't stop our TIGHT END!! Maybe because you coughed the ball up. No, it was one hit to knock out one player. There is no "i" in team is there. It's humorous how you were supposed to absolutely annihilate the Bills, yet you came short because one of your players was injured. Hey how about our starting DB down with an injury, but we still managed to hold it together. I think if your team is HORRIBLE because you lost ONE player, then you need to just turn of your tv's now because its going to be a LOOOOOOONG season.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:01 PM
Yes, how stupid of us for thinking you are a sabres fan because you have sabres in your name.

You know what else? We think Ram fan like the Rams.

Clearly, we are the dumb ones.

Go ****ing break your ankle on your sloped field.

T-O-O-L

WhiteWhale
09-11-2011, 10:01 PM
So when Warren Sapp cut blocked Chad Clifton a few years ago, that was legal too?

It was a dirty hit. Shove your bullshit explanations up your ass.

Warren Sapp didn't cut block Clifton.

CaliforniaChief
09-11-2011, 10:02 PM
Some quotes from a Bills board:

"I missed it. Did it look intentional on Stevie's part? Those guys on the chiefs board are calling for him to suffer career ending injuries and be castrated.."

"Their nuts over there. You never wish an injury on a player and their hoping he dies over on the thread. Kansas City has some messed up fans. That's why I like the Bills. Were Classy"

"You're telling me. Holy cow those guys are such whiny babies on there...they're even arguing amongst themselves and telling each other to die in a fire lol."

"wow. reading some of their comments to each other makes them sound wildly unintelligent.
"Yeah cause Pioli broke Baldwins thumb, and Pioli took out Berry's knees.
You're a ****ing dumb *** cum guzzling **** stick. **** your mother, and die in a ****ing aids tree fire."

LMAO

Jayhawkerman2001
09-11-2011, 10:02 PM
We're fooked no matter what....

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:03 PM
Yes, how stupid of us for thinking you are a sabres fan because you have sabres in your name.

You know what else? We think Ram fan like the Rams.

Clearly, we are the dumb ones.

Go ****ing break your ankle on your sloped field.

You know what happens when you assume LMAO

Bewbies
09-11-2011, 10:04 PM
Some quotes from a Bills board:

"I missed it. Did it look intentional on Stevie's part? Those guys on the chiefs board are calling for him to suffer career ending injuries and be castrated.."

"Their nuts over there. You never wish an injury on a player and their hoping he dies over on the thread. Kansas City has some messed up fans. That's why I like the Bills. Were Classy"

"You're telling me. Holy cow those guys are such whiny babies on there...they're even arguing amongst themselves and telling each other to die in a fire lol."

"wow. reading some of their comments to each other makes them sound wildly unintelligent.
"Yeah cause Pioli broke Baldwins thumb, and Pioli took out Berry's knees.
You're a ****ing dumb *** cum guzzling **** stick. **** your mother, and die in a ****ing aids tree fire."

LMAO

That sounds like a friendly conversation over here. LMAO

NY isn't known for good schools...

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:04 PM
Some quotes from a Bills board:

"I missed it. Did it look intentional on Stevie's part? Those guys on the chiefs board are calling for him to suffer career ending injuries and be castrated.."

"Their nuts over there. You never wish an injury on a player and their hoping he dies over on the thread. Kansas City has some messed up fans. That's why I like the Bills. Were Classy"

"You're telling me. Holy cow those guys are such whiny babies on there...they're even arguing amongst themselves and telling each other to die in a fire lol."

"wow. reading some of their comments to each other makes them sound wildly unintelligent.
"Yeah cause Pioli broke Baldwins thumb, and Pioli took out Berry's knees.
You're a ****ing dumb *** cum guzzling **** stick. **** your mother, and die in a ****ing aids tree fire."

LMAO

:fear: Go say something then

Dayze
09-11-2011, 10:06 PM
:fear: Go say something then

knock yourself out Tiger.

Dayze
09-11-2011, 10:07 PM
I think it's important to note, that the Bills fans.......are FANS OF ****ING BUFFALO.


LMAO.


Buffalo. lmao.
holy shit.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:07 PM
That sounds like a friendly conversation over here. LMAO

NY isn't known for good schools...

And yet their school system ranks higher than Missouri!!

KCtotheSB
09-11-2011, 10:08 PM
I am not surprised to see the whining. I forgot you guys were Super Bowl bound with Berry. Maybe you lost because your Defense couldn't stop our TIGHT END!! Maybe because you coughed the ball up. No, it was one hit to knock out one player. There is no "i" in team is there. It's humorous how you were supposed to absolutely annihilate the Bills, yet you came short because one of your players was injured. Hey how about our starting DB down with an injury, but we still managed to hold it together. I think if your team is HORRIBLE because you lost ONE player, then you need to just turn of your tv's now because its going to be a LOOOOOOONG season.

Sabres suck too, you twat.

Bewbies
09-11-2011, 10:08 PM
And yet their school system ranks higher than Missouri!!

Oh shit, I've been owned. I'm going to go cry now.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 10:09 PM
LMAO We are so wild and crazy. Buffalo fans are so classy. Sheesh.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:09 PM
Oh shit, I've been owned. I'm going to go cry now.

You do that...looks like you all haven't stopped since the loss.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:10 PM
Sabres suck too, you twat.

But what sabres...can't get it through your heads its not the BUFFALO SABRES...

boogblaster
09-11-2011, 10:12 PM
i hope he's ok ... shit shit shit ....

Dayze
09-11-2011, 10:13 PM
Buffalo

LMAO


just think about it.....BUFFALO

LMAO

like the Jets and Giants retarded step-brother.


BUFFALO......lmao....

Spott
09-11-2011, 10:13 PM
That sounds like a friendly conversation over here. LMAO

NY isn't known for good schools...

Mostly just know as a state full of rude assholes.

JD10367
09-11-2011, 10:14 PM
As a third-party observer, I think Buffalo fans clearly have a right to crow after that ass kicking. They came into your house, kicked ass against the odds, and shocked almost everyone.

However, as a Patriots fan, I think Buffalo fans need to remember that their team has sucked balls for a decade, and the odds are pretty good that this was their "Super Bowl" (as opposed to this being a sign of actual improvement and an indication of a good season).

So, Chiefs fans, after beating your wife and kicking your dog (or kicking your wife and beating your dog), try to go to sleep secure in the slight and cold comfort that, more than likely, the Bills will soon be getting their asses handed to them by the Pats, Jets, and a bunch of others. At which point, you won't have to worry about hearing from them any more for a while. They'll all jack off tonight and dust off their long-buried Jim Kelly jerseys and Marv Levy posters, but the cold slap of reality will ruin their season as usual, I'd bet.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:14 PM
Mostly just know as a state full of rude assholes.

Thank god I don't live there then!!

CaliforniaChief
09-11-2011, 10:15 PM
Yes guys I cannot believe those Chiefs fans. They are so mean! I mean some of them are actually talking about drinking anti-freeze over there! I heard some of them talking about giving Stevie Johnson the AIDS virus, some new method of transferring it through a tree. A tree! At least were classy.

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:15 PM
As a third-party observer, I think Buffalo fans clearly have a right to crow after that ass kicking. They came into your house, kicked ass against the odds, and shocked almost everyone.

However, as a Patriots fan, I think Buffalo fans need to remember that their team has sucked balls for a decade, and the odds are pretty good that this was their "Super Bowl" (as opposed to this being a sign of actual improvement and an indication of a good season).

So, Chiefs fans, after beating your wife and kicking your dog (or kicking your wife and beating your dog), try to go to sleep secure in the slight and cold comfort that, more than likely, the Bills will soon be getting their asses handed to them by the Pats, Jets, and a bunch of others. At which point, you won't have to worry about hearing from them any more for a while. They'll all jack off tonight and dust off their long-buried Jim Kelly jerseys and Marv Levy posters, but the cold slap of reality will ruin their season as usual, I'd bet.

That was almost clever....almost LMAOLMAO

Dayze
09-11-2011, 10:15 PM
Thank god I don't live there then!!

ah. Troll then. got it.

;)

Bewbies
09-11-2011, 10:17 PM
Who can blame Bills fans for coming out of the closet this week? I'm sure Chiefs fans trolled like crazy last year when we won a game for what felt like the first time in a decade too.

Dayze
09-11-2011, 10:18 PM
Who can blame Bills fans for coming out of the closet this week? I'm sure Chiefs fans trolled like crazy last year when we won a game for what felt like the first time in a decade too.

NTTAWWT

shsabres
09-11-2011, 10:19 PM
Who can blame Bills fans for coming out of the closet this week? I'm sure Chiefs fans trolled like crazy last year when we won a game for what felt like the first time in a decade too.

Whats that say about your team then???

Chiefs4Croyle
09-11-2011, 10:19 PM
I sure hope this isn't true. I said earlier today that I would go into a fetal position and cry if we lost Charles or Berry... and I wasn't kidding.

(I hope I didn't jinx us)

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 10:20 PM
Who on here besides GoChiefs likes to troll other boards? I think it's kinda lame. I mean, I usually find a board of whoever we are playing and I'll see what they are discussing. Maybe something interesting? But I've never actually made an account just to be a douchebag on another board.

Otter
09-11-2011, 10:21 PM
Any time a guy goes down without being touched, it's usually serious. However, Berry didn't appear to be in a lot of pain, so I'm hoping this is the exception to the rule.

But if he is out, we've got Piscitelli to step in and ... oh, who am I kidding? We're screwed.

Maybe he was drunk Rain Man. Ever think of that? I've gone down many times unassisted and woke up fine.

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 10:21 PM
I sure hope this isn't true. I said earlier today that I would go into a fetal position and cry if we lost Charles or Berry... and I wasn't kidding.

(I hope I didn't jinx us)

4Croyle? Which one?

Kelli or Brodie?

Dayze
09-11-2011, 10:22 PM
Who on here besides GoChiefs likes to troll other boards? I think it's kinda lame. I mean, I usually find a board of whoever we are playing and I'll see what they are discussing. Maybe something interesting? But I've never actually made an account just to be a douchebag on another board.

yeah, cause you're probably not a d-bag.


that's what makes d-bags "d-bags".

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 10:23 PM
yeah, cause you're probably not a d-bag.


that's what makes d-bags "d-bags".

Oh. I see. I just think it's lame. Although when GC stirrs up shit at the Mane it can be a little funny.

Dayze
09-11-2011, 10:25 PM
Oh. I see. I just think it's lame. Although when GC stirrs up shit at the Mane it can be a little funny.

case in point: the s....sabre d-bag.


aka Johnny come lately.

Chiefs4Croyle
09-11-2011, 10:27 PM
4Croyle? Which one?

Kelli or Brodie?

Brodie. He is my cousin, and though this name is no longer relevant, I do like it

Fat Elvis
09-11-2011, 10:30 PM
Maybe he was drunk Rain Man. Ever think of that? I've gone down many times unassisted and woke up fine.

Eric Berry was drunk on the Cassell Kool-Aid.

Chief Spoon
09-11-2011, 10:33 PM
The problem with losing Berry is that our safeties aren't very good anyways. Without him, we'll never stop a TE pass [see AFC Wildcard game]

BigMeatballDave
09-11-2011, 10:50 PM
Brodie. He is my cousin, and though this name is no longer relevant, I do like itHave you seen his wifes tits?

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 10:51 PM
Have you seen his wifes tits?

lol. Geez.

big cahones
09-11-2011, 10:53 PM
That sounds like a friendly conversation over here. LMAO

NY isn't known for good schools...

actually new york is known for how good their schools are. do you just post non-sense without actually knowing what you're talking about? what a fucking buffoon.

Chiefs4Croyle
09-11-2011, 10:56 PM
Have you seen his wifes tits?


Actually yes o:-)

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 10:57 PM
Actually yes o:-)

Pics or it didn't happen.

BossChief
09-11-2011, 10:58 PM
LOL @ all the dumbshits here acting as if losing Berry today had ANYTHING AT ALL to do with Chandler having a career day.

NEWSFLASH:

Eric Berry was 100% when Heap had a HUGE day against us in the WC game and plenty of other instances last year.

If we dont find a way to cover opposing tight ends without sacrificing elsewhere to do it, we are totally fucked.

EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL knows it by now.

JD10367
09-11-2011, 11:00 PM
That was almost clever....almost LMAOLMAO

Wow. What a snappy comeback, Pee Wee Herman. Your wit is astounding. I sincerely hope you're around 12. Otherwise, you have the IQ of a used condom. If it's due to sniffing glue, then kudos, mission accomplished; if it's just natural, I'm truly sorry.

big cahones
09-11-2011, 11:01 PM
I like smart football fans.

Chiefs4Croyle
09-11-2011, 11:05 PM
Pics or it didn't happen.

I could be persuaded

Dr. Gigglepants
09-11-2011, 11:08 PM
Let me know when shit gets real

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 11:09 PM
Let me know when shit gets real

Tomorrow when Berry goes on IR.

Reverse Karma guys

Messier
09-11-2011, 11:11 PM
Tomorrow when Berry goes on IR.

Reverse Karma guys

I hope your reverse karma works, because if he goes on IR I'm blaming you.

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:12 PM
I could be persuaded

whats it gonna take?

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 11:14 PM
LOL @ all the dumbshits here acting as if losing Berry today had ANYTHING AT ALL to do with Chandler having a career day.

NEWSFLASH:

Eric Berry was 100% when Heap had a HUGE day against us in the WC game and plenty of other instances last year.

If we dont find a way to cover opposing tight ends without sacrificing elsewhere to do it, we are totally ****ed.

EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL knows it by now.

Yes, because we all know that Heap and Chandler are basically the same player.

Eric Berry was a rookie playing against a veteran TE. Sorry, the situations have zero parallels.

KcMizzou
09-11-2011, 11:17 PM
I hope "Stevie" Johnson gets hit by a bus tomorrow.

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:19 PM
Yes, because we all know that Heap and Chandler are basically the same player.

Eric Berry was a rookie playing against a veteran TE. Sorry, the situations have zero parallels.

bullshit bad guy

TEs KILLED us ALL YEAR last year.

Dont turn a blind eye to that fact just to make some people feel like losing Berry was the reason another tight end ate our lunch.

KC Hawks
09-11-2011, 11:19 PM
I hope "Stevie" Johnson gets hit by a bus tomorrow.

Well we know God hates him, so it could happen.

WhiteWhale
09-11-2011, 11:21 PM
bullshit bad guy

TEs KILLED us ALL YEAR last year.

Dont turn a blind eye to that fact just to make some people feel like losing Berry was the reason another tight end ate our lunch.

It wasn't just the TE.

Watch how many times 42 and 47 show up on pass completions. They went at them all day long regardless of the match-up.

No, I don't think that would have happened quite the same with Eric Berry in there. I don't have a crystal ball, but I know he makes a difference.

big cahones
09-11-2011, 11:21 PM
I hope "Stevie" Johnson gets hit by a bus tomorrow.

I hope eric berry can't play the rest of the year. oh wait.......

you stupid ****s realize he went back out on the field after he was hit right?

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:23 PM
Fact is, we NEED to add 2 more good safeties if we are to ever be a real contender.

Defenses are only as strong as their weakest link and even Lewis got ate up today.

I LOVE the idea of adding Darren Sharper to this unit...even on his last legs, he would be the second best safety we have.

Ugly Duck
09-11-2011, 11:24 PM
Is this a legal play?

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big cahones
09-11-2011, 11:26 PM
I guess i'll post this again for you.

"Cut blocks are mainly legal in the open field where the defender can hurdle the offensive player but not at the line of scrimmage, where the tactic is particularly dangerous, sometimes causing career-threatening injuries."

Urc Burry
09-11-2011, 11:26 PM
Is this a legal play?

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Technically yes...but it is fucking dirty

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:28 PM
I hope eric berry can't play the rest of the year. oh wait.......

you stupid ****s realize he went back out on the field after he was hit right?

pure heart

Kid wouldnt let himself believe that he was really injured and not just hurt like had happened many times in the past.

Happens a lot.

I dont think it was as serious as some here think, though.

He walked down the steps by himself to the trainers room when he left the field...if the medical staff really felt he completely tore something, no way they let him walk down steps within minutes of a tear.

He also returned to the sideline with his shoulder pads still on...is he had a tear, that likely wouldnt be the case.

If he has a tear in any of the three ligaments of his knee, I will be pretty shocked.

I will also be equally as shocked if he plays anytime in the next month.

NWTF
09-11-2011, 11:28 PM
Somewhere in Florida Charlie Weiss is smiling

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:31 PM
I guess i'll post this again for you.

"Cut blocks are mainly legal in the open field where the defender can hurdle the offensive player but not at the line of scrimmage, where the tactic is particularly dangerous, sometimes causing career-threatening injuries."

NOT FROM BEHIND as was the case, here.

Watch the fucking play, man.

Ive agreed with a lot of what you've had to say today, but ffs anytime a player tries to put his helmet into the side of another players knee...its an intentionally dirty hit.

No way around that conclusion.

</post>
09-11-2011, 11:31 PM
Somewhere in Florida Charlie Weiss is smiling

Deepthroat a Cactus

Ugly Duck
09-11-2011, 11:32 PM
I guess i'll post this again for you.

"Cut blocks are mainly legal in the open field where the defender can hurdle the offensive player but not at the line of scrimmage, where the tactic is particularly dangerous, sometimes causing career-threatening injuries."

I'm just having a hard time absorbing it. If its legal to come up behind someone & drive your helmet or shoulder-pad down into the back of someone's leg, why doesn't everyone do it to put the other players on IR?

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:33 PM
Somewhere in Florida Charlie Weiss is smiling

Wouldn't you be if you could work with your son to teach him to be one of the best in his field?

fucking trolls

big cahones
09-11-2011, 11:33 PM
if the trainers thought he was seriously hurt after that hit, there's no doubt in my mind that they wouldn't have let him back on the field. i have never once said it wasn't dirty but i have been saying it was legal.

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:34 PM
I'm just having a hard time absorbing it. If its legal to come up behind someone & drive your helmet or shoulder-pad down into the back of someone's leg, why doesn't everyone do it to put the other players on IR?

read the quote he posted.

Common sense dictates that hitting a players knee from behind on a cut block is illegal.

The key is the part I bolded in my prior quote of his post.

WhiteWhale
09-11-2011, 11:34 PM
NOT FROM BEHIND as was the case, here.

Watch the ****ing play, man.

Ive agreed with a lot of what you've had to say today, but ffs anytime a player tries to put his helmet into the side of another players knee...its an intentionally dirty hit.

No way around that conclusion.

Was his helmet in front of his knee when the block took place?

Asking your opinion. It looks like the helmet is in front to me.

If the helmet is in front, they'll rule it legal. I don't like it, because it's pretty easy to get the helmet in front and come from behind, but Denver did it for decades.

mcaj22
09-11-2011, 11:34 PM
if the trainers thought he was seriously hurt after that hit they would not have let him back on the field.


lol wat

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:36 PM
if the trainers thought he was seriously hurt after that hit, there's no doubt in my mind that they wouldn't have let him back on the field. i have never once said it wasn't dirty but i have been saying it was legal.

It wasnt legal.

and they sure as hell wouldn't let him walk down steps on his own.

Berry will be back in 4 or less games IMO.

Iconic
09-11-2011, 11:36 PM
Im on my phone so I'm to lazy to copy and paste shit but check out johnson's twitter feed....

big cahones
09-11-2011, 11:36 PM
lol wat

re-read, it's been edited because i am buzzed

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 11:37 PM
bullshit bad guy

TEs KILLED us ALL YEAR last year.

Dont turn a blind eye to that fact just to make some people feel like losing Berry was the reason another tight end ate our lunch.

Week 1 - Gates 5/76 1 TD
Week 2 - Watson 4/62
Week 3 - Vernon Davis 3/22
Week 5- Dallas Clark 3/20
Week 6- Owen Daniels 5/76
Week 7 - Mercedes Lewis 3/44
Week 8 - David Nelson 3/25
Week 9 - Brandon Myers 3/20
Week 10 - No TE catches
Week 11- Ben Patrick 3/24
Week 12 - Jon Carlson 1/3
Week 13 - Dan Gronkowski 1/8
Week 14- Randy McMichael 2/26
Week 15 - Dan Fells 4/47
Week 16 - Jared Cook 5/96 1 TD
Week 17 - Zach Miller 5/31
WC Game - Todd Heap 10/108

So for the season, the Chiefs gave up more than 50 yards receiving to a TE just 5 times - with 4 of them coming from vet. TE's .

Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit. Yeah, Berry really doesn't make a difference covering TEs. Where did they kill us again?

The Bad Guy
09-11-2011, 11:39 PM
I guess i'll post this again for you.

"Cut blocks are mainly legal in the open field where the defender can hurdle the offensive player but not at the line of scrimmage, where the tactic is particularly dangerous, sometimes causing career-threatening injuries."

You can post it 100x. It doesn't apply when the receiver is coming up from behind the defensive player.

God, fuck you and your sabres.

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:40 PM
Was his helmet in front of his knee when the block took place?

Asking your opinion. It looks like the helmet is in front to me.

If the helmet is in front, they'll rule it legal. I don't like it, because it's pretty easy to get the helmet in front and come from behind, but Denver did it for decades.

he came from behind to make the block.

The rule states that its legal if the defender has a chance to hurdle the offensive player.

You cant do that if the offensive player is behind you.

Id like to see a high res screen shot of the moment the contact takes place.

I wish I was home so I could freeze it at the moment that happens...but its hard to do with my road laptop Im using.

Ugly Duck
09-11-2011, 11:40 PM
Common sense dictates that hitting a players knee from behind on a cut block is illegal.

The key is the part I bolded in my prior quote of his post.

OK... that makes sense. A player cannot "hurdle" when a cutblocker sneaks up behind him. Its gotta be illegal, otherwise players would all be sneaking up behind people to blow their knees up. Teams would need a roster bigger than 53 to last a whole year if that was a legal play....

big cahones
09-11-2011, 11:41 PM
You can post it 100x. It doesn't apply when the receiver is coming up from behind the defensive player.

God, **** you and your sabres.

who mentioned anything about the sabres asshole?

KcMizzou
09-11-2011, 11:42 PM
he came from behind to make the block.

The rule states that its legal if the defender has a chance to hurdle the offensive player.

You cant do that if the offensive player is behind you.

Id like to see a high res screen shot of the moment the contact takes place.

I wish I was home so I could freeze it at the moment that happens...but its hard to do with my road laptop Im using.WTF?

KCrockaholic
09-11-2011, 11:46 PM
Im on my phone so I'm to lazy to copy and paste shit but check out johnson's twitter feed....

Too lazy to even specify which Johnson too.

BossChief
09-11-2011, 11:56 PM
Week 1 - Gates 5/76 1 TD
Week 2 - Watson 4/62
Week 3 - Vernon Davis 3/22
Week 5- Dallas Clark 3/20
Week 6- Owen Daniels 5/76
Week 7 - Mercedes Lewis 3/44
Week 8 - David Nelson 3/25
Week 9 - Brandon Myers 3/20
Week 10 - No TE catches
Week 11- Ben Patrick 3/24
Week 12 - Jon Carlson 1/3
Week 13 - Dan Gronkowski 1/8
Week 14- Randy McMichael 2/26
Week 15 - Dan Fells 4/47
Week 16 - Jared Cook 5/96 1 TD
Week 17 - Zach Miller 5/31
WC Game - Todd Heap 10/108

So for the season, the Chiefs gave up more than 50 yards receiving to a TE just 5 times - with 4 of them coming from vet. TE's .

Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit. Yeah, Berry really doesn't make a difference covering TEs. Where did they kill us again?lots of big first downs in there, but admittedly I thought opposing tight ends hurt us a lot more than that.

I dont feel like going back through box scores to see what the teams #2 TE options did to us, but even without anything....about 600 yards given up to tight ends is above average.

The point is that Berrys job as a SS isnt covering a tight end that is coming across the field and thats what hurts us.

WTF?

what part would you like to be clarified?

The Bad Guy
09-12-2011, 12:12 AM
lots of big first downs in there, but admittedly I thought opposing tight ends hurt us a lot more than that.

I dont feel like going back through box scores to see what the teams #2 TE options did to us, but even without anything....about 600 yards given up to tight ends is above average.

The point is that Berrys job as a SS isnt covering a tight end that is coming across the field and thats what hurts us.



what part would you like to be clarified?

Berry absolutely would have been covering the TE's that Pissthebed did today. Berry got beaten up by Gates and Heap, but held his own against everyone else.

BossChief
09-12-2011, 12:44 AM
Berry absolutely would have been covering the TE's that Pissthebed did today. Berry got beaten up by Gates and Heap, but held his own against everyone else.Jon McGraw was Berrys replacement iirc...but admittedly, I was watching a stream on the road laptop and not watching at home where this would be much clearer.

According tro ESPNs box score (http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=310911012&period=0) and whole game play by play...only one pass to Chandler was credited to McGraws coverage (Berrys replacement) and the rest were credited to other defenders...mostly Piscatelli.

They were attacking our weakest link on defense constantly...that was Gaileys MO.

Once Berry went down, that weakest link seemed to be sabby more often than not.

Rausch
09-12-2011, 12:53 AM
They were attacking our weakest link on defense constantly...that was Gaileys MO.

Isn't that what any coach with a brain would do?...

BossChief
09-12-2011, 12:57 AM
Isn't that what any coach with a brain would do?...

well, on defense we didnt even try to attack their crap OTs and on offense we only had 18 rushing attempts against last years worst rated run defense.

So, yeah.

It was like we schemed to lose this game badly.

To answer your question...absolutely, but today it seemed we didnt have any brains that you speak of.

Rausch
09-12-2011, 01:02 AM
well, on defense we didnt even try to attack their crap OTs and on offense we only had 18 rushing attempts against last years worst rated run defense.

So, yeah.

It was like we schemed to lose this game badly.

To answer your question...absolutely, but today it seemed we didnt have any brains that you speak of.

That's my point.

Last year's no 1 rushing team didn't ever try to establish the run.

At all. Constantly throwing on first down, giving us 2nd and long, and shooting ourselves in the foot.

WE ARE NOT A PASSING TEAM. PERIOD.

Haley's game day coaching is like a frustrated 13 year old playing Madden...

BossChief
09-12-2011, 01:08 AM
Im not sure which was more puzzling:

not running on last years worst rated rush defense

or

not unleashing what could be a very productive pass rush against a team that will likely give up a shit ton of sacks

Iconic
09-12-2011, 01:30 AM
Too lazy to even specify which Johnson too.

Steve Johnson... I'd assume that would have been obvious since this entire thread has been about him and berry.

Ugly Duck
09-12-2011, 03:26 AM
Interesting article on cut blocking from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

"The block is illegal if it comes from behind a defender"

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07294/827221-66.stm#ixzz1XiyThd43

TEX
09-12-2011, 07:28 AM
This is the kind of thing that won't let you "bounce back" from a 34 point loss at home to a scrub team. It sets the tome for the entire season. This is gonna be UGLY...

WhiteWhale
09-12-2011, 08:06 AM
Interesting article on cut blocking from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

"The block is illegal if it comes from behind a defender"

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07294/827221-66.stm#ixzz1XiyThd43

Looks like the 'helmet in front of the knee' that I was talking about only applies in the trenches where it's legal to cut from the side. I wasn't aware cutting from the side (which I'm totally opposed to) was only legal in the trenches.

That was an illegal block.

durtyrute
09-12-2011, 08:07 AM
WE SUCK AGAIN!!!

Mr_Tomahawk
09-12-2011, 08:08 AM
Any updates?

Chiefs Pantalones
09-12-2011, 10:26 AM
Anything?

GoHuge
09-12-2011, 11:29 AM
Any updates?GoChiefs found out he isn't pregnant..........so you're off the hook!

ChiefsandO'sfan
09-12-2011, 12:58 PM
getnickwrightnick wright

For those asking about Berry, I'm working on confirmation, but what I'm hearing isn't good. Really not good. #Chiefs

Pants
09-12-2011, 01:00 PM
Is "really not good" better than "really bad"?

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-12-2011, 01:00 PM
Sounding more and more like Moeaki's injury. I believe he came back and stood on the sideline as well.

Okie_Apparition
09-12-2011, 01:01 PM
Buffalo hate maybe born

cabletech94
09-12-2011, 01:01 PM
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tboss27
09-12-2011, 01:04 PM
getnickwrightnick wright

For those asking about Berry, I'm working on confirmation, but what I'm hearing isn't good. Really not good. #Chiefs

I may be putting what's left of my season tickets up for sale this afternoon. There's no chance this team wins more than a handful of games without Berry.