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Saul Good
10-19-2011, 08:29 AM
MU fans are not butthurt.

It's called getting the last laugh.

Your coach? Fired in disgrace.
Your AD? Resigned in disgrace.
Your team? Is a disgrace.
Your conference? Crumbling.

Congratulations on that Orange Bowl, though. I'm sure your MWC will be impressed.

Pants
10-19-2011, 08:37 AM
It's called getting the last laugh.

Your coach? Fired in disgrace.
Your AD? Resigned in disgrace.
Your team? Is a disgrace.
Your conference? Crumbling.

Congratulations on that Orange Bowl, though. I'm sure your MWC will be impressed.

What's called getting the last laugh? Acting butthurt?

Coach fired in disgrace.
AD resigned in disgrace.
Our trophy display is not a barren wasteland.
Team is a disgrace. A coaching hire away from being fixed.
Crumbling Conference? Not as long as UT and OU are here. :D

Thanks for the congratulations. No amount of your butthurt will ever take that trophy away from KU. MWC? Maybe and maybe not. I guess we'll see, but I'm not too worried about it right now.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 08:38 AM
It's called getting the last laugh.

Your coach? Fired in disgrace.
Your AD? Resigned in disgrace.
Your team? Is a disgrace.
Your conference? Crumbling.

Congratulations on that Orange Bowl, though. I'm sure your MWC will be impressed.

oh man, I sucks to be a Kansas fan!

You've shown me the light.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 08:41 AM
What's called getting the last laugh? Acting butthurt?

Coach fired in disgrace.
AD resigned in disgrace.
Our trophy display is not a barren wasteland.
Team is a disgrace. A coaching hire away from being fixed.
Crumbling Conference? Not as long as UT and OU are here. :D

Thanks for the congratulations. No amount of your butthurt will ever take that trophy away from KU. MWC? Maybe and maybe not. I guess we'll see, but I'm not too worried about it right now.

I was gonna go for:

"120 years of an athletic department in disgrace"

But yours works too.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 08:48 AM
History...err...the PAC 10 plane awaits!

Pants
10-19-2011, 08:49 AM
History...err...the PAC 10 plane awaits!

I don't understand how MU fans can throw the PAC-10 thing around. We're not the school that was all "See ya fags!" only to find out they had been played.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 08:53 AM
Tom Shatel kills it in this article. Believe it or not, he actually uses logic instead of womanly emotion to make his point. CRAZY!

http://sports.omaha.com/2011/10/18/m-i-z-s-e-c-y-e-s/

M-I-Z, S-E-C, Y-E-S

BY Tom Shatel (http://sports.omaha.com/author/tshatel/) | 10:43 pm, Tuesday, Oct. 18

Mizzou to the SEC? Yes, if possible. Absolutely. Tomorrow. Whenever.

Iíve had some requests to comment on this story, since I may have spent some time in Missouri, or so the rumor goes.

I hesitate to jump on this for one simple reason: itís not a done deal yet.
Lots of folks are talking and writing like this is going to happen by Friday. But nothing is over until the fat lady sings. Or leaves Shakespeareís.

So letís go with a small disclaimer: IF the SEC is offeringÖ

Then this is a no-brainer. And I donít say that lightly.

Iím a son of the Big Eight Conference. Grew up in KC. I was raised on the Big Eight Holiday tournament, then post-season shindig starting in 1977. I saw Kim Anderson and Jim Kennedy fly over the press table against KU, saw Stan Ray take down K-State, Derrick Chievous and Lee Coward take on everyone. That tournament, in that town, is one of the great events in college sports. Iíve never been to the Big East shindig at MSG, but I canít see how it could be better, more passionate, more electric than when the sparks that fly when MU-KSU-KU get together.

Mizzou heads south and that tourney changes, even if it stays. All of MUís old Big Eight rivalries/series are gone. Probably even with Kansas, the border war that goes back to the Civil War. All that history is history. I donít take it lightly. I understand the significance.

But I think a move south is a natural move, and Iíll go over a few points and then we can get back to watching Minnesota film.

1. If you turn it down, youíre betting your future that the Big 12 stays together. What has recent history taught us? Texas and Oklahoma hold the league together. Texas will do whatever is best for Texas. So will OU. You canít trust Texas. And now you canít trust Oklahoma. Just last month, OU was gone. Leaving. If the Pac-12 had bit its lip on the Longhorn Network, there would be no Big 12 today. The Pac-12′s last-minute stonewall doesnít change that. Things could change in a year, three years. It happens. OU could leave again. So could Texas.

Yes, the TV tier one and two rights have been promised, and Texas canít leave as long as the LHN is tethered to Bevoís tail like an anchor. But how long will the LHN last? Whoís going to watch it, whoís going to distribute it nationally? I could be wrong on this. But I donít see a long future for the LHN. And when UT and ESPN settle the money and say it was a nice try, then Bevo is free to entertain all offers.

Why would Texas leave the Big 12? Why did Texas want out of the SWC? At some point, Bevo gets tired of carrying the water for TCU, Baylor and the rest, and now ISU, KSU and KU are along for the ride. Moreover, Texas lives on the cutting edge, always pushing the envelope. Texas will eventually get bored in the Big 12.

Thatís my opinion. But if youíre Missouri, do you really trust your future on Texas and Oklahoma saying theyíre staying put?

Answer: If KU, K-State or Iowa State could leave, theyíd do it.

2. Okay, so the Big 12 breaks up one day. What happens to Mizzou?

This notion that the Big Ten is going to be there to scoop up Olí Mizzou is a reach, and possibly a catastrophic miscalculation, in my opinion. Look, Jim Delany isnít going to pick up teams like scraps to fill out a 16-hole scorecard. He may have to go 16 if the Pac-16 does, but would you bet on it? The Big Ten marches to its own drummer. Delany is very particular about who gets invited to The Club.

If the Big Ten does go to 16, Iíd be willing to bet a $70 parking space across from Camp Randall Stadium that Delany already has a plan on paper somewhere in his desk. And if that plan included Missouri, why werenít the Tigers taken last year?

If Mizzou is part of the Big Tenís plan, why wouldnít you step in now and take MU before the SEC does?

More than likely, because MU is not part of the Big Tenís plan. Now. Or ever.

Maybe the Tigers would get saved by Delany. But if youíre MU, would you bet the future on that? And, wouldnít you already have done some research with the folks in Chicago to see if that was the case?

3. This notion that Missouri football is going to get buried in the SEC is ridiculous. And short-sighted.

Historically, Missouri football can compete with anyone. It just does it in doses. Alabama? The Tigers went to Dixie and beat Bear Bryant in the opener in 1975. In 1978, Mizzou led ĎBama ó a Bryant team that would win the national championship that year ó at the half before succumbing in the second half. MU seemed to win everywhere back then ó USC, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Nebraska, then come home and lose to Kansas.

Mizzou football at its best, historically, has beaten the best. The problem
has always been consistency. And mismanagement. Coaches like John Cooper, LaVell Edwards and Joe Gibbs were passed over early in their careers for Warren Powers and Woody Widenhofer.

Thereís absolutely no reason ó none ó that Mizzou canít compete and beat Arkansas, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Vanderbilt and Kentucky ó and Iíll throw in Georgia and South Carolina at the moment. LSU? ĎBama? These things go in cycles. Back in the 1990′s, ĎBama and LSU werenít doing much. The power was Florida and Tennessee. Whoís to say Missouri couldnít have its run?

This will put extreme heat on Gary Pinkel. Heís built a nice program, but heís done it in the Big 12 North. Heíll have to upgrade the run game and defense or else. But imagine Pinkelís offensive imagination with a reliable run game and defense.

Missouri has long been considered a sleeping giant, an underachiever, much like Texas A&M. Pinkel has done a better job at in-state recruiting. The facilities are there. Imagine what MU could do with the SEC brand, and later an SEC Network, and so many games on ESPN and CBS. Instead of Fx.

Meanwhile, Missouri hoops would do very well in the SEC. It would be one of the big dogs right away. The other sports? Challenges, sure. But the SEC isnít really an upgrade from the Big 12 across the board of Olympic sports. In fact, you could argue that, this season, Big 12 football is deeper in quality.

Sure, going to the SEC is a risk, an all-in gamble, but life in the fast lane could be just what the program needs to get to the next level. Iím sure the good folks down south donít fear either MU or A&M. But what if those two realize their potential in the fast lane? Could be a scary thought.

Hereís a scarier thought and a bigger gamble: staying put, then watching Texas fly the coop in six years. And watching Delany turn to the east coast, or, scoop up Texas and Notre Dame and call it good.

If those things donít happen, and the Big 12 lives, then historians will say Missouri blew it. Except that Missouri will still be in the SEC, an equal partner in a national power, rather than waiting to see if Texas wants 10 teams or 12 teams or all home games.

The only gamble here is not taking the gamble. Pass the grits.

Frazod
10-19-2011, 08:56 AM
I'm not sure what's funnier - Raiders trolls trying desperately to defend Carson Palmer or KU trolls and their love/hate/love/fuck you/don't leave me/we backed into a BCS bowl once endless loop of fail.

It's nearly a toss up at this point.

Pants
10-19-2011, 08:58 AM
I'm not sure what's funnier - Raiders trolls trying desperately to defend Carson Palmer or KU trolls and their love/hate/love/**** you/don't leave me/we backed into a BCS bowl once endless loop of fail.

It's nearly a toss up at this point.

Once again, different KU fans think differently. We're not a hive mind, frazod. I'm pretty sure we all have our minds made up. There is no loop that is not propagated by both parties.

Frazod
10-19-2011, 09:04 AM
Once again, different KU fans think differently. We're not a hive mind, frazod.

Looks like you and Wickedson are making up your own hive.

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:06 AM
Looks like you and Wickedson are making up your own hive.

Uhh, no. I've been saying since day one, that if you guys have an offer from the SEC and it involves your school making a crapton more money, you would be fools not to leave the B12.

Sometimes Wickedson posts facts along with his opinions. Just because I post the same facts, doesn't mean I agree with all of his opinions. I'm sorry that those facts sting you, but they are what they are.

But you can go ahead and think whatever it is you want to think. :thumb:

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 09:10 AM
I don't understand how MU fans can throw the PAC-10 thing around. We're not the school that was all "See ya pillowbiters!" only to find out they had been played.

KU is as loyal as its options. If you could get the fuck out of town, you would. If

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:14 AM
KU is as loyal as its options. If you could get the **** out of town, you would. If

We already covered this. But since you like these "endless loops" so much, I'll say it again... yes, if B12 was crumbling like it looked to be a couple months ago, I would want KU to GTFO if any sort of possibility presented itself. Now? Not so much.

And it has nothing to do with loyalty. I'm a pragmatist. I don't like to delve into the ****ing drama of loyalties and scorned wives, that shit you guys do is ridiculous. I want KU to stay in the B12 because it's the best fit geographically and culturally for our fans.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 09:22 AM
If the Big XII-2-1-1 were crumbling?

The BYU, Texas, and West Virginia culture is the best fit for Kansas?

Just wow

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:27 AM
If the Big XII-2-1-1 were crumbling?

The BYU, Texas, and West Virginia culture is the best fit for Kansas?

Just wow

I'm sorry, did I not say that as long as UT and OU are in the B12, it will remain viable? Is that not the opposite of crumbling?

I don't know about BYU, but West Virginia is culturally a Missourah clone with a better athletic program, so yeah, I'm down with them. And yeah, I think KU is a better fit with other Midwestern schools than the white-hood-wearing deep South.

Frazod
10-19-2011, 09:30 AM
I'm sorry, did I not say that as long as UT and OU are in the B12, it will remain viable? Is that not the opposite of crumbling?

I don't know about BYU, but West Virginia is culturally a Missourah clone with a better athletic program, so yeah, I'm down with them. And yeah, I think KU is a better fit with other Midwestern schools than the white-hood-wearing deep South.

LMAO

Yeah, no butthurt here. None at all.

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:31 AM
LMAO

Yeah, no butthurt here. None at all.

There really isn't.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 09:32 AM
I'm sorry, did I not say that as long as UT and OU are in the B12, it will remain viable? Is that not the opposite of crumbling?

I don't know about BYU, but West Virginia is culturally a Missourah clone with a better athletic program, so yeah, I'm down with them. And yeah, I think KU is a better fit with other Midwestern schools than the white-hood-wearing deep South.

And dumbass posts like this is why you constantly get lumped in with Wickeddumb.

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:34 AM
And dumbass posts like this is why you constantly get lumped in with Wickeddumb.

Which part do you disagree with?

P.S. I like Wicked. I like how he completely makes you guys lose your shit.

Frazod
10-19-2011, 09:36 AM
Which part do you disagree with?

P.S. I like Wicked. I like how he completely makes you guys lose your shit.

And he reduces every KU fan that posts in this thread to a window-licking retard.

But hey, if you guys need a figurehead, that's your business.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 09:37 AM
And dumbass posts like this is why you constantly get lumped in with Wickeddumb.

heh, I'm so hurt.

Wouldn't trade places with you for anything.

Well, maybe some national titles, conference titles and BCS...

But except for those things I would trade places with you.

Come join the lump!

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:37 AM
And he reduces every KU fan to a window-licking retard.

But hey, if you guys need a figurehead, that's your business.

I can't speak for other fans, but he's not my figurehead.

evenfall
10-19-2011, 09:38 AM
I'm sorry, did I not say that as long as UT and OU are in the B12, it will remain viable? Is that not the opposite of crumbling?

I don't know about BYU, but West Virginia is culturally a Missourah clone with a better athletic program, so yeah, I'm down with them. And yeah, I think KU is a better fit with other Midwestern schools than the white-hood-wearing deep South.

You guys aren't going to understand until Texas and Oklahoma leave you in a mid major conference, which they would do tomorrow if they could.

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:38 AM
You guys aren't going to understand until Texas and Oklahoma leave you in a mid major conference, which they would do tomorrow if they could.

Where are they going to go?

Bambi
10-19-2011, 09:38 AM
And he reduces every KU fan that posts in this thread to a window-licking retard.

But hey, if you guys need a figurehead, that's your business.

Please .

I've got 3,000 posts and make you lay awake at night fuming.

It's almost too much for. Makes me feel guilty.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 09:40 AM
You guys aren't going to understand until Texas and Oklahoma leave you in a mid major conference, which they would do tomorrow if they could.

Oklahoma is sending the volleyball team to Pullman?

Frazod
10-19-2011, 09:40 AM
I can't speak for other fans, but he's not my figurehead.

Oh he most definitely is.

Thank God there is no MU equivalent. But if there was, you can rest assured that I wouldn't find his antics cute just because his rampant level of idiocy annoyed other posters.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 09:41 AM
You guys aren't going to understand until Texas and Oklahoma leave you in a mid major conference, which they would do tomorrow if they could.

But ku is a mid-major school and their fans own it. They don't fear ending up in an actual mid-major conference. They love having a shit football program if they can excel in one secondary sport, and frankly they fit in with commuter schools like Memphis, Louisville, and Cincinnati more than large land-grant universities.

It is for the best that this is all happening.

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:41 AM
Oh he most definitely is.


Not really.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 09:42 AM
I'm sorry, did I not say that as long as UT and OU are in the B12, it will remain viable? Is that not the opposite of crumbling?

I don't know about BYU, but West Virginia is culturally a Missourah clone with a better athletic program, so yeah, I'm down with them. And yeah, I think KU is a better fit with other Midwestern schools than the white-hood-wearing deep South.

So you're not a fit with the deep South, so you're hitching your wagon to Texas and Oklahoma. That makes sense.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 09:43 AM
Not really.

I never speak for any other KU fan.

Making that assumption just shows how shortsighted a person really is.

Either that or simple blinding anger.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 09:43 AM
So you're not a fit with the deep South, so you're hitching your wagon to Texas and Oklahoma. That makes sense.

They have ties going back to the mid 90's, they wouldn't dream of breaking that tradition to join a major conference.

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:44 AM
But ku is a mid-major school and their fans own it. They don't fear ending up in an actual mid-major conference. They love having a shit football program if they can excel in one secondary sport, and frankly they fit in with commuter schools like Memphis, Louisville, and Cincinnati more than large land-grant universities.

It is for the best that this is all happening.

See, frazod, this is what butthurt looks like.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 09:44 AM
See, frazod, this is what butthurt looks like.

What do I have to be butthurt about? Just explaining the ku mindset.

BigCatDaddy
10-19-2011, 09:45 AM
But ku is a mid-major school and their fans own it. They don't fear ending up in an actual mid-major conference. They love having a shit football program if they can excel in one secondary sport, and frankly they fit in with commuter schools like Memphis, Louisville, and Cincinnati more than large land-grant universities.

It is for the best that this is all happening.

Are you seriously trying to lump mens's basketball in with all the other "secondary sports"?

Frazod
10-19-2011, 09:45 AM
Please .

I've got 3,000 posts and make you lay awake at night fuming.

It's almost too much for. Makes me feel guilty.

You're the dumbest sonofabitch ever to post here. You make CoMo look like a Rhodes scholar. You make Hootie look dignified and mature. You are the BB laughingstock and viewed as a pariah by nearly all of your fellow KU types, and the only person who tolerates your antics is a guy who just thinks it's funny that your dumbassery annoys other people.

Yeah, you must be really proud. LMAO

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:46 AM
What do I have to be butthurt about? Just explaining the ku mindset.

Well saying something as retarded as "They love having a shit football program" can only be ascribed to a butthurt cunt. I know you're not stupid so that leaves me with only one other possibility, does it not?

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 09:47 AM
Are you seriously trying to lump mens's basketball in with all the other "secondary sports"?

Of course. Men's basketball revenue is much closer to men's baseball than football. Football drives the bus and funds the rest of the teams at most schools.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 09:48 AM
You're the dumbest sonofabitch ever to post here. You make CoMo look like a Rhodes scholar. You make Hootie look dignified and mature. You are the BB laughingstock and viewed as a pariah by nearly all of your fellow KU types, and the only person who tolerates your antics is a guy who just thinks it's funny that your dumbassery annoys other people.

Yeah, you must be really proud. LMAO

Maybe its time you rounded up the Wicked 21 again.

Talk about maturity.

Frazod
10-19-2011, 09:49 AM
Well saying something as retarded as "They love having a shit football program" can only be ascribed to a butthurt cunt. I know you're not stupid so that leaves me with only one other possibility, does it not?

Yet accusing an entire conference of being pointy-hat wearing racists and likening Missouri (or, as you put it, "Missourah") to West Virginia was enlightened and well-reasoned, correct?

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 09:49 AM
Well saying something as retarded as "They love having a shit football program" can only be ascribed to a butthurt ****. I know you're not stupid so that leaves me with only one other possibility, does it not?

The commitment to football from the university and fanbase is the same as the commuter schools I mentioned, if not worse.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 09:49 AM
Of course. Men's basketball revenue is much closer to men's baseball than football. Football drives the bus and funds the rest of the teams at most schools.

And yet your school has less than KU.

I wonder why that is...... hmmmmmmmmm

Frazod
10-19-2011, 09:50 AM
Maybe its time you rounded up the Wicked 21 again.

Talk about maturity.

Are those the same 21 guys who'll get your rep back in the green? ROFL

Bambi
10-19-2011, 09:53 AM
Well saying something as retarded as "They love having a shit football program" can only be ascribed to a butthurt ****. I know you're not stupid so that leaves me with only one other possibility, does it not?

If KU has a "shit program" then what does MU have?

Did MU get good all of a sudden?

What is their record this year?

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:54 AM
So you're not a fit with the deep South, so you're hitching your wagon to Texas and Oklahoma. That makes sense.

I'm hitching my wagon to the Midwest (which is admittedly much more barren now, seeing as 90% of the Midwestern teams have left) and to the Southwest.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 09:54 AM
And yet your school has less than KU.

I wonder why that is...... hmmmmmmmmm

I would guess it is because 1) you are thrilled with excelling in a secondary sport and pour everything into it, and 2) Big 12 football TV contracts are very weak. Both points have been discussed constantly in this thread so try to think before posting again in the future.

Kansas football, a program your fanbase couldn't care less about, still brings in more revenue than basketball. Hmmmmm indeed.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 09:54 AM
Are those the same 21 guys who'll get your rep back in the green? ROFL

Get it going.

I want to see if you can find more than 21 this time around.

You put so much time into I'd feel terrible if your efforts weren't rewarded this time.

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 09:55 AM
But ku is a mid-major school and their fans own it. They don't fear ending up in an actual mid-major conference. They love having a shit football program if they can excel in one secondary sport, and frankly they fit in with commuter schools like Memphis, Louisville, and Cincinnati more than large land-grant universities.

It is for the best that this is all happening.


Again, we do excel at a secondary sport. And it sucks to constantly be in the National Title talk in that sport nearly every year. I know you aren't used to talking about being in the National Title hunt, but it's fun....even if it is just basketball.

You guys can enjoy....well, whatever the fuck a football team that is 1 game ahead of lowly KU in the shitty Big 12 enjoys.

Good luck in the SEC. I'm sure with all the domination of the Big 12 you guys have had, your 1st SEC championship is just right around the corner.

Frazod
10-19-2011, 09:57 AM
Get it going.

I want to see if you can find more than 21 this time around.

You put so much time into I'd feel terrible if your efforts weren't rewarded this time.

I hate to break it to you, but I really don't even remember what the "Wicked 21" is, other than having something to do with the Douche of the Year poll that you thought I was attempting to rig.

However, I feel like you've really distinguished yourself this year, and will definitely be one of front runners in 2012.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 09:58 AM
I would guess it is because 1) you are thrilled with excelling in a secondary sport and pour everything into it, and 2) Big 12 football TV contracts are very weak. Both points have been discussed constantly in this thread so try to think before posting again in the future.

Kansas football, a program your fanbase couldn't care less about, still brings in more revenue than basketball. Hmmmmm indeed.

Plenty of people go to football games at Kansas.

Sure when the team is not very good you will see a lull in attendance (the case for about 95% of college football teams in America).

Plus the fanbase only has so much money to spend on sporting events and most admittedly spend on basketball first.

That happens when you a are national power.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 09:58 AM
If KU has a "shit program" then what does MU have?

Did MU get good all of a sudden?

What is their record this year?

Yep. KU football is on the same level as Mizzou's.

Pants
10-19-2011, 09:59 AM
Again, we do excel at a secondary sport. And it sucks to constantly be in the National Title talk in that sport nearly every year. I know you aren't used to talking about being in the National Title hunt, but it's fun....even if it is just basketball.

You guys can enjoy....well, whatever the **** a football team that is 1 game ahead of lowly KU in the shitty Big 12 enjoys.

Good luck in the SEC. I'm sure with all the domination of the Big 12 you guys have had, your 1st SEC championship is just right around the corner.

It's hard for an MU fan to understand a winning tradition. BigCatDaddy understands it since he is a fan of a school that has one as well. And ezbait can talk all he wants how basketball is on par with baseball, we'll let the national TV broadcasts speak for themselves.

Pants
10-19-2011, 10:00 AM
Yep. KU football is on the same level as Mizzou's.

I wouldn't go that far. You guys have been much better the last 3 years.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 10:00 AM
I hate to break it to you, but I really don't even remember what the "Wicked 21" is, other than having something to do with the Douche of the Year poll that you thought I was attempting to rig.

However, I feel like you've really distinguished yourself this year, and will definitely be one of front runners in 2012.

Ahhh, the ignorance defense again.

Never change bro, please....never change.

And get the 21 ready.

I'm comin strong this time around.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 10:02 AM
Again, we do excel at a secondary sport. And it sucks to constantly be in the National Title talk in that sport nearly every year. I know you aren't used to talking about being in the National Title hunt, but it's fun....even if it is just basketball.

You guys can enjoy....well, whatever the **** a football team that is 1 game ahead of lowly KU in the shitty Big 12 enjoys.

Good luck in the SEC. I'm sure with all the domination of the Big 12 you guys have had, your 1st SEC championship is just right around the corner.

Glad you own it, finally someone did. There's nothing wrong with being a basketball school along with all the other little guys. I hope when Texas and OU finally leave you guys can replace them with some more commuter schools.

Pants
10-19-2011, 10:02 AM
I would guess it is because 1) you are thrilled with excelling in a secondary sport and pour everything into it, and 2) Big 12 football TV contracts are very weak. Both points have been discussed constantly in this thread so try to think before posting again in the future.

Kansas football, a program your fanbase couldn't care less about, still brings in more revenue than basketball. Hmmmmm indeed.

Yeap, it's obvious. A fanbase that cares about baskteball can not possibly care about football as well. It's a well known fact.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 10:03 AM
I wouldn't go that far. You guys have been much better the last 3 years.

lol, KU kicked MU's ass in football three year in a row less than a decade ago

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 10:06 AM
Yeap, it's obvious. A fanbase that cares about baskteball can not possibly care about football as well. It's a well known fact.

Care about what? Did you misspell Quidditch? And why do I have to sometimes click on the 2nd or 3rd page to find the KU BB thread? What's with all those :arrow: icons?

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 10:10 AM
Glad you own it, finally someone did. There's nothing wrong with being a basketball school along with all the other little guys. I hope when Texas and OU finally leave you guys can replace them with some more commuter schools.

It's like listening to a broken record. I like you outside of this thread, but in this thread, you're an idiot.

Pants
10-19-2011, 10:10 AM
Care about what? Did you misspell Quidditch? And why do I have to sometimes click on the 2nd or 3rd page to find the KU BB thread? What's with all those :arrow: icons?

I'm not sure whether you are aware, but KU was a national champion in Bowling and Debate during my tenure there.

Frazod
10-19-2011, 10:12 AM
Ahhh, the ignorance defense again.

Never change bro, please....never change.

And get the 21 ready.

I'm comin strong this time around.

Hey, if you can figure out a way somebody who isn't a moderator can rig a public poll, please, let me know. The guy who won thought I rigged it, too. LMAO

Pants
10-19-2011, 10:13 AM
Hey, if you can figure out a way somebody who isn't a moderator can rig a public poll, please, let me know. The guy who won thought I rigged it, too. LMAO

I think he's implying that 21 votes for him is not very many and you failed in your quest to proclaim him the douche of the year. He's OK with 21 people thinking he's a douche. I don't know whether those were your intentions.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 10:15 AM
I think he's implying that 21 votes for him is not very many and you failed in your quest to proclaim him the douche of the year. He's OK with 21 people thinking he's a douche. I don't know whether those were your intentions.

:LOL:

October 25th can't come soon enough.

I can't keep this board shit up.

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 10:16 AM
I'm not sure whether you are aware, but KU was a national champion in Bowling and Debate during my tenure there.

Did they oddly become secondary sports the day after they won their NCs, too? Such a weird phenomenon...

Pants
10-19-2011, 10:18 AM
Did they oddly become secondary sports the day after they won their NCs, too? Such a weird phenomenon...
LMAO

Frazod
10-19-2011, 10:18 AM
I think he's implying that 21 votes for him is not very many and you failed in your quest to proclaim him the douche of the year. He's OK with 21 people thinking he's a douche. I don't know whether those were your intentions.

Oh, is that what it was? Like I said, I didn't really remember, although poor little Wickedson seems to think I have the definition of "Wicked 21" tatooed to my forearm.

I guess I should have known there was never a point when 21 people actually liked him. LMAO

evenfall
10-19-2011, 10:26 AM
This thread has militant alien AIDS now. I hope the announcement comes thurs or Fri so there can be a new one

kchero
10-19-2011, 10:30 AM
This thread has militant alien AIDS now. I hope the announcement comes thurs or Fri so there can be a new one

Agreed, the HIV/AIDS has set in ROFL

Frazod
10-19-2011, 10:40 AM
This thread has militant alien AIDS now. I hope the announcement comes thurs or Fri so there can be a new one

When/if the move becomes official, I fear our KU/KSU friends will force the the AIDS level to militant alien African refugee camp San Francisco night club heights.

We may need a whole new Kansas Butthurt Subforum at that point.

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 10:55 AM
When/if the move becomes official, I fear our KU/KSU friends will force the the AIDS level to militant alien African refugee camp San Francisco night club heights.

We may need a whole new Kansas Butthurt Subforum at that point.

KU fan: We don't care.
MU fan: Butthurt!

KU fan: We care.
MU fan: Jealousy!

KU fan: I think I'll have OK Joe's for lunch.
MU fan: Jealous butthurt!


Meh.

evenfall
10-19-2011, 11:02 AM
When/if the move becomes official, I fear our KU/KSU friends will force the the AIDS level to militant alien African refugee camp San Francisco night club heights.

We may need a whole new Kansas Butthurt Subforum at that point.

Sadly I think the line will just be "you guys can't compete in the SEC." And that will circle forever.


It's like the beginning of the Hitchiker's guide film, where it is explained that dolphins decide to leave earth because the earth is doomed. They try to warn everyone but humanity won't listen. That is why earlier I said Missouri can only say to KU/KSU, so long and thanks for all the fish. It was fun, but the writing is on the wall.

Texas and OU have been scheming their way out for years, and they were very nearly gone just recently. When they get the last few points of contention ironed out, they will hop the fence to that greener pasture. For the life of me I can't believe that anyone would trust them when they were just attempting a jailbreak. They won't understand until they come home to an empty house one day that Texas really didn't love them.

Pants
10-19-2011, 11:03 AM
Sadly I think the line will just be "you guys can't compete in the SEC." And that will circle forever.


It's like the beginning of the Hitchiker's guide film, where it is explained that dolphins decide to leave earth because the earth is doomed. They try to warn everyone but humanity won't listen. That is why earlier I said Missouri can only say to KU/KSU, so long and thanks for all the fish. It was fun, but the writing is on the wall.

Texas and OU have been scheming their way out for years, and they were very nearly gone just recently. When they get the last few points of contention ironed out, they will hop the fence to that greener pasture. For the life of me I can't believe that anyone would trust them when they were just attempting a jailbreak. They won't understand until they come home to an empty house one day that Texas really didn't love them.

My line will be "GLHF."

Frazod
10-19-2011, 11:06 AM
KU fan: We don't care.
MU fan: Butthurt!

KU fan: We care.
MU fan: Jealousy!

KU fan: I think I'll have OK Joe's for lunch.
MU fan: Jealous butthurt!


Meh.

It's more like:

MU fan: Talking to other MU fan about a relevant topic that does not involve KU.
KU fan: Ha! You suck! We won a BCS game!
MU fan: Shut up, we're having a conversation here.
KU fan: How dare you leave us! You have no respect for history! You suck! Basketball!
MU fan: What?
KU fan: Conference loyalty! Get out! You suck! Oranges!
MU fan: :shake:

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 11:07 AM
Sadly I think the line will just be "you guys can't compete in the SEC." And that will circle forever.


It's like the beginning of the Hitchiker's guide film, where it is explained that dolphins decide to leave earth because the earth is doomed. They try to warn everyone but humanity won't listen. That is why earlier I said Missouri can only say to KU/KSU, so long and thanks for all the fish. It was fun, but the writing is on the wall.

Texas and OU have been scheming their way out for years, and they were very nearly gone just recently. When they get the last few points of contention ironed out, they will hop the fence to that greener pasture. For the life of me I can't believe that anyone would trust them when they were just attempting a jailbreak. They won't understand until they come home to an empty house one day that Texas really didn't love them.

Meh.

Dayze
10-19-2011, 11:13 AM
It's more like:

MU fan: Talking to other MU fan about a relevant topic that does not involve KU.
KU fan: Ha! You suck! We won a BCS game!
MU fan: Shut up, we're having a conversation here.
KU fan: How dare you leave us! You have no respect for history! You suck! Basketball!
MU fan: What?
KU fan: Conference loyalty! Get out! You suck! Oranges!MU fan: :shake:

LMAO

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 11:14 AM
KU fan: We don't care.
MU fan: Butthurt!

KU fan: We care.
MU fan: Jealousy!

KU fan: I think I'll have OK Joe's for lunch.
MU fan: Jealous butthurt!


Meh.

KU fan doesn't care. I know that because there are thousands of posts from KU fans in this thread telling me so.

KU fan's ex girlfriend probably gets 50 voicemails a day that tell her how over her he is and that he's glad she's gone.

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 11:15 AM
KU fan: We don't care.
MU fan: Butthurt!

KU fan: We care.
MU fan: Jealousy!

KU fan: I think I'll have OK Joe's for lunch.
MU fan: Jealous butthurt!


Meh.

Pretty much.

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 11:15 AM
It's more like:

MU fan: Talking to other MU fan about a relevant topic that does not involve KU.
Wickedson: Ha! You suck! We won a BCS game!
MU fan: Kneepads! MU is consistently a top 25 program in BB and FB and a consistent 10-win program in FB! (please don't actually look up those stats)
KU fan: I looked up those stats.... :facepalm:
KK?: How dare you leave us! You have no respect for history! You suck! Basketball!
MU fan: Butthurt jealousy!!!
KK?: Conference loyalty! Get out! You suck! Oranges!
MU fan: We are vastly superior in every sport except Quidditch, and we're not even sure what that is!

This is fun.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 11:16 AM
It's more like:

MU fan: Talking to other MU fan about a relevant topic that does not involve KU.
KU fan: Ha! You suck! We won a BCS game!
MU fan: Shut up, we're having a conversation here.
KU fan: How dare you leave us! You have no respect for history! You suck! Basketball!
MU fan: What?
KU fan: Conference loyalty! Get out! You suck! Oranges!
MU fan: :shake:

You forgot the 237th ku post of "Well, bye" or "we don't care".

Pants
10-19-2011, 11:18 AM
You forgot the 237th ku post of "Well, bye" or "we don't care".

Well, those of us who don't really care have to post it 237 times because we constantly get words put in our mouths by certain MU fans.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 11:19 AM
It could be worse, I guess. KSU fan cares so little that he scours Tigerboard for information.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 11:20 AM
MU Fan: Hey guys! We're going to the Big 10!

rare smart MU fan: No we're not. We're not invited

SEC: Hey ya'll. Look over there, MU has two major cities with like 8 million people and they're no threat to ever beat us in anything. Lets talk to them.

MU Fan: Hell yeah! Bright lights of the SEC here we come!

Washington Generals: Welcome to the party guys!

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 11:23 AM
KU fan doesn't care. I know that because there are thousands of posts from KU fans in this thread telling me so.

KU fan's ex girlfriend probably gets 50 voicemails a day that tell her how over her he is and that he's glad she's gone.

I count two KU fans in the top ten...

User Name Posts
Saul Good 417
Wickedson 343
eazyb81 324
|Zach| 271
mnchiefsguy 229
Pants 218
alnorth 178
Saulbadguy 153
frazod 151
DeezNutz 145


And out of those with more than 50 posts, KU fans account for less than 20%, and a over a 3rd of that is Wickedson trolling your collective ass into talking about the Orange Bowl for the millionth time.

But yeah, "thousands"..... you guys sure do love to just say stuff.

Meh.

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 11:25 AM
And out of those with more than 50 posts, KU fans account for less than 20%, and a over a 3rd of that is Wickedson trolling your collective ass into talking about the Orange Bowl for the millionth time.

ROFL



But yeah, "thousands"..... you guys sure do love to just say stuff.

Meh.


We jealous.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 11:26 AM
I count two KU fans in the top ten...

User Name Posts
Saul Good 417
Wickedson 343
eazyb81 324
|Zach| 271
mnchiefsguy 229
Pants 218
alnorth 178
Saulbadguy 153
frazod 151
DeezNutz 145


And out of those with more than 50 posts, KU fans account for less than 20%, and a over a 3rd of that is Wickedson trolling your collective ass into talking about the Orange Bowl for the millionth time.

But yeah, "thousands"..... you guys sure do love to just say stuff.

Meh.


your pwnage in this thread is commendable

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 11:26 AM
Well, those of us who don't really care have to post it 237 times because we constantly get words put in our mouths by certain MU fans.

What words get put in your mouth? "Well bye"?

KU and KSU fans clearly care about Mizzou leaving. If you were apathetic there wouldn't be more KU/KSU fans posting in this thread than Mizzou fans.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 11:28 AM
Saul Good 417
Wickedson 343
eazyb81 324
|Zach| 271
mnchiefsguy 229
Pants 218
alnorth 178
Saulbadguy 153
frazod 151
DeezNutz 145

This list needs color coding for some of out friends here.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 11:29 AM
MU Fan: Hey guys! We're going to the Big 10!

rare smart MU fan: No we're not. We're not invited

SEC: Hey ya'll. Look over there, MU has two major cities with like 8 million people and they're no threat to ever beat us in anything. Lets talk to them.

MU Fan: Hell yeah! Bright lights of the SEC here we come!

Washington Generals: Welcome to the party guys!

SEC: Should we look at ku too?

BIG: Yeah what about ku? Basketball is important right?

PAC: Hmm, that Kansas market could be valuable.

(long pause)

In Unison: ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 11:30 AM
If you were apathetic there wouldn't be more KU/KSU fans posting in this thread than Mizzou fans.



Please see below.



I count two KU fans in the top ten...

User Name Posts
Saul Good 417
Wickedson 343
eazyb81 324
|Zach| 271
mnchiefsguy 229
Pants 218
alnorth 178
Saulbadguy 153
frazod 151
DeezNutz 145


And out of those with more than 50 posts, KU fans account for less than 20%, and a over a 3rd of that is Wickedson trolling your collective ass into talking about the Orange Bowl for the millionth time.

But yeah, "thousands"..... you guys sure do love to just say stuff.

Meh.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 11:31 AM
Please see below.

A top ten list does not counter my point that there are more KU/KSU fans posting in this thread than Mizzou.

And a 60/40 difference does not help your case that you just do not care about Mizzou leaving. Nice try though.

Are we sure ku is still an AAU school?

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 11:34 AM
I count two KU fans in the top ten...

User Name Posts
Saul Good 417
Wickedson 343
eazyb81 324
|Zach| 271
mnchiefsguy 229
Pants 218
alnorth 178
Saulbadguy 153
frazod 151
DeezNutz 145


And out of those with more than 50 posts, KU fans account for less than 20%, and a over a 3rd of that is Wickedson trolling your collective ass into talking about the Orange Bowl for the millionth time.

But yeah, "thousands"..... you guys sure do love to just say stuff.

Meh.

Is that just in this thread (started by a KSU fan) or both?

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 11:34 AM
A top ten list does not counter my point that there are more KU/KSU fans posting in this thread than Mizzou.

And a 60/40 difference does not help your case that you just do not care about Mizzou leaving. Nice try though.

Are we sure ku is still an AAU school?


You're right. KU & KSU are more invested in this thread than the first thread....it's like a secondary thread.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 11:35 AM
You're right. KU & KSU are more invested in this thread than the first thread....it's like a secondary thread.

boom roasted.

Plow you are on a roll today with all the secondary responses.

Pants
10-19-2011, 11:36 AM
What words get put in your mouth? "Well bye"?

KU and KSU fans clearly care about Mizzou leaving. If you were apathetic there wouldn't be more KU/KSU fans posting in this thread than Mizzou fans.

I care about conference realignment. Is this the official MU thread? I'm sorry, I wasn't aware, I thought it was called "New Conference Re-Alignment Thread." I'm very interested to see what happens to my conference, whether that involves MU staying or MU leaving.

And yes, when you post stupid shit like "KU FAN SAYZ: BLAHBITTY BLAH BLAH" you're putting words into my mouth by ascribing the opinions of other KU fans (like HHG and Stewie) to me.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 11:38 AM
Of the 8 members with the most posts in this thread about Mizzou bolting to the SEC, only half of them are KU/KSU fans. This proves that KU/KSU fan doesn't care.

evenfall
10-19-2011, 11:39 AM
I don't see why post counts mean anything. KU fans aren't just here talking about Missouri. They are talking about what the Big 12 will look like afterward, how stable the Big 12 is, how trustworthy Texas and OU are, how vitually any school would be an upgrade over any of the schools that have left, how lucrative the next tv deal will be... There is plenty of non-rivalry talk. It's not like this is an MU only subject

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 11:41 AM
You're right. KU & KSU are more invested in this thread than the first thread....it's like a secondary thread.

Nice to see you own up to it.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 11:43 AM
I care about conference realignment. Is this the official MU thread? I'm sorry, I wasn't aware, I thought it was called "New Conference Re-Alignment Thread." I'm very interested to see what happens to my conference, whether that involves MU staying or MU leaving.

And yes, when you posted stupid shit like "KU FAN SAYZ: BLAHBITTY BLAH BLAH" you're putting words into my mouth by ascribing the opinions of other KU fans (like HHG and Stewie) to me.

Um, yes, this basically is the Mizzou to SEC thread. What was the last piece of news in here about the Big 12 or any other conference that actually got some discussion going?

Dude, just own it. You desperately care about Mizzou leaving. Big bro is leaving, that has to be an emotional hit. Real men cry pants.

Pants
10-19-2011, 11:46 AM
Um, yes, this basically is the Mizzou to SEC thread. What was the last piece of news in here about the Big 12 or any other conference that actually got some discussion going?

Dude, just own it. You desperately care about Mizzou leaving. Big bro is leaving, that has to be an emotional hit. Real men cry pants.

I'm pretty sure the Big East has been discussed in this thread. I'm also pretty sure Air Force and BYU and Louisville and Cincinnati and TCU have been discussed in this thread.

I think the last actual piece of news instead of some random writer's opinion was actually the addition of TCU to the B12. I could be wrong.

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 11:46 AM
Nice to see you own up to it.

Like I said, I'll enjoy my conference championships & national championship talk in a secondary sport.....you enjoy whatever it is that MU fans get excited about? Insight.com bowl maybe?

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 11:50 AM
I'm pretty sure the Big East has been discussed in this thread. I'm also pretty sure Air Force and BYU and Louisville and Cincinnati and TCU have been discussed in this thread.

I think the last actual piece of news instead of some random writer's opinion was actually the addition of TCU to the B12. I could be wrong.

Yeah, TCU and Air Force talk is burning up this thread. Mostly, KU fans just want the latest AFA rumors.

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 11:50 AM
I don't see why post counts mean anything. KU fans aren't just here talking about Missouri. They are talking about what the Big 12 will look like afterward, how stable the Big 12 is, how trustworthy Texas and OU are, how vitually any school would be an upgrade over any of the schools that have left, how lucrative the next tv deal will be... There is plenty of non-rivalry talk. It's not like this is an MU only subject

Jealous butthu-wait, what?

This post contains none of the following:
- Misleading or false statistics
- Hyperbole
- 4 year old trash talk
- Otherwise trollish behavior


Please try again before you send this thread into a downward spiral of logic and intelligent conversation that it could not possibly recover. kthxbye.

evenfall
10-19-2011, 11:51 AM
Um, yes, this basically is the Mizzou to SEC thread. What was the last piece of news in here about the Big 12 or any other conference that actually got some discussion going?

Dude, just own it. You desperately care about Mizzou leaving. Big bro is leaving, that has to be an emotional hit. Real men cry pants.

It's obvious they will miss beating up on MU in basketball. "I don't care" is dumb, "I don't care that much" is true. It doesn't affect basketball that much. They will be fine with their rivals OU and Texas and the conference Punch and Judy lineup. They will just drive to OKC or DFW for the conference tourney instead of KC. This is the basketball-centric perspective. I believe them when they say that they don't care if MU leaves because it doesn't affect basketball that much.

Pants
10-19-2011, 11:54 AM
Yeah, TCU and Air Force talk is burning up this thread. Mostly, KU fans just want the latest AFA rumors.

Wait you're saying that MU is being discussed more in this thread than TCU and Air Force? I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that there are actually MU fans present in the thread?

patteeu
10-19-2011, 11:56 AM
I count two KU fans in the top ten...

User Name Posts
Saul Good 417
Wickedson 343
eazyb81 324
|Zach| 271
mnchiefsguy 229
Pants 218
alnorth 178
Saulbadguy 153
frazod 151
DeezNutz 145

Three

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 11:57 AM
Like I said, I'll enjoy my conference championships & national championship talk in a secondary sport.....you enjoy whatever it is that MU fans get excited about? Insight.com bowl maybe?

At least you won't have to worry about suffering the indignity of playing in a crappy bowl. You're like a guy in the unemployment line making fun of the security guard for not being a real cop.

Pants
10-19-2011, 11:58 AM
At least you won't have to worry about suffering the indignity of playing in a crappy bowl. You're like a guy in the unemployment line making fun of the security guard for not being a real cop.

I'd make fun of that guy if he was acting like a real cop, though. ;)

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 11:58 AM
It's obvious they will miss beating up on MU in basketball. "I don't care" is dumb, "I don't care that much" is true. It doesn't affect basketball that much. They will be fine with their rivals OU and Texas and the conference Punch and Judy lineup. They will just drive to OKC or DFW for the conference tourney instead of KC. This is the basketball-centric perspective. I believe them when they say that they don't care if MU leaves because it doesn't affect basketball that much.

There you go again...

The superior team isn't going to care. MU football has bigger things to worry about besides possibly getting upset in KU's Superbowl at Arrowhead. KU basketball has bigger things to worry about besides getting upset in Columbia on the last weekend of the season or in the Big 12 Tournament. If KU football is ever relevant again and they find themselves playing ISU and MO State every week while MU is a top 15 school playing Alabama and LSU, then sure, I'll envy that... I envy just about every football program out there these days. Except Northern Illinois. We got you good!

evenfall
10-19-2011, 12:00 PM
There you go again...

The superior team isn't going to care. MU football has bigger things to worry about besides possibly getting upset in KU's Superbowl at Arrowhead. KU basketball has bigger things to worry about besides getting upset in Columbia on the last weekend of the season or in the Big 12 Tournament. If KU football is ever relevant again and they find themselves playing ISU and MO State every week while MU is a top 15 school playing Alabama and LSU, then sure, I'll envy that... I envy just about every football program out there these days. Except Northern Illinois. We got you good!

So why are you guys so butthurt? :fire:

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 12:03 PM
At least you won't have to worry about suffering the indignity of playing in a crappy bowl. You're like a guy in the unemployment line making fun of the security guard for not being a real cop.


Now explain it to me with the girlfriend analogy.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 12:03 PM
I'd make fun of that guy if he was acting like a real cop, though. ;)

Then, when he took a job on the force, you'd tell him that he won't be able to hack it and will get stuck pushing papers.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 12:08 PM
Now explain it to me with the girlfriend analogy.

Well, plow, Missouri's just not that into you.

Pants
10-19-2011, 12:08 PM
Then, when he took a job on the force, you'd tell him that he won't be able to hack it and will get stuck pushing papers.

Nope, you're confusing me with someone else.

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 12:09 PM
So why are you guys so butthurt? :fire:

:deevee:

Now explain it to me with the girlfriend analogy.


LMAO

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 12:11 PM
Then, when he took a job on the force, you'd tell him that he won't be able to hack it and will get stuck pushing papers.

He's probably been getting bullied all his life, but it's never been his fault... and one day he'll show 'em.

One day.

kstater
10-19-2011, 12:13 PM
There you go again...

. MU football has bigger things to worry about besides possibly getting upset in KU's Superbowl at Arrowhead. K

Disagree. Mizzou wil likely need to win that game to get bowl eligible. Assuming they're not already eliminated.

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 12:21 PM
Disagree. Mizzou wil likely need to win that game to get bowl eligible. Assuming they're not already eliminated.

Oh, I meant in a typical year, when they normally would have 8-10 wins going into that game...

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 12:25 PM
He's probably been getting bullied all his life, but it's never been his fault... and one day he'll show 'em.

One day.

That's pretty much how it went down.

Kansas fan: Hey Mr. Plastic badge, why aren't you a real cop? Couldn't get a job on the force? If you were worth a shit, you'd be a police officer.

Security guard: Actually, today's my last day here. Just got hired onto the NYPD.

Kansas Fan: Ooh, look at Mr. Tough Guy. He's going to be a cop because he got picked on and wants the power trip.

Security Guard: Don't hurt your back moving those goalposts around.

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 12:29 PM
Oh, I meant in a typical year, when they normally would have 8-10 wins going into that game...

Typical year as in 8 times in 30 years - which, I have to say is much better than KU's 5 times in 30 years.

Pants
10-19-2011, 12:30 PM
That's pretty much how it went down.

Kansas fan: Hey Mr. Plastic badge, why aren't you a real cop? Couldn't get a job on the force? If you were worth a shit, you'd be a police officer.

Security guard: Actually, today's my last day here. Just got hired onto the NYPD.

Kansas Fan: Ooh, look at Mr. Tough Guy. He's going to be a cop because he got picked on and wants the power trip.

Security Guard: Don't hurt your back moving those goalposts around.

Analogy fail.

MU fan: I'm a cop (football power).
KU fan: Naw, you're a security guard (you've never won shit and really are just mediocre at best)
MU fan: I'm applying to the Police Academy.
KU fan: Good luck, have fun.
MU fan: Why are you so butthurt?
KU fan: I'm not.
MU fan: Yes. Yes, you're. If you weren't, you wouldn't be talking to me right now!

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 12:32 PM
Analogy fail.

MU fan: I'm cop (football power).
KU fan: Naw, you're a security guard (you've never won shit and really are just mediocre at best)
MU fan: I'm applying to the Police Academy.
KU fan: Good luck, have fun.
MU fan: Why are you so butthurt?
KU fan: I'm not.
MU fan: Yes. Yes, you're.


I'm not sure I understand this. Can you please convert this into a "Meal Analogy"? You know....where MU is the lobster & KU is a hamburger that's been on the floor or something.

Pants
10-19-2011, 12:35 PM
I'm not sure I understand this. Can you please convert this into a "Meal Analogy"? You know....where MU is the lobster & KU is a hamburger that's been on the floor or something.

MU will commission a plastic trophy from one of those trophy stores and it will say "A proud member of the SEC since 2012." And then their trophy case won't be empty any more and they will have something to be proud of at last. :D

Frazod
10-19-2011, 12:36 PM
I'm not sure I understand this. Can you please convert this into a "Meal Analogy"? You know....where MU is the lobster & KU is a hamburger that's been on the floor or something.

It's more like the difference between Ground Chuck and Spam.

baitism
10-19-2011, 12:39 PM
KSU fans are going to be a bit butt hurt when they get passed over for the Alamo and Cotton bowl this year and are stuck in the Insight bowl, even though they will be deserving of better. Then they might get a better grasp of what MU is tired of.

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 12:42 PM
Analogy fail.

MU fan: I'm a cop (football power).
KU fan: Naw, you're a security guard (you've never won shit and really are just mediocre at best)
MU fan: I'm applying to the Police Academy.
KU fan: Good luck, have fun.
MU fan: Why are you so butthurt?
KU fan: I'm not.
MU fan: Yes. Yes, you're. If you weren't, you wouldn't be talking to me right now!

MU fan is a mediocre musician that's had some success in recent years, but can't quite seem to break through to the next level, and KU fan is a tourist that's in town with their family and seem to be little lost. They would really like to get Timmy to the zoo before the aquarium exhibit closes, but they missed their exit due to construction and after grabbing something to eat, they aren't sure how to continue. They're looking for directions, and come across MU fan, who has just finished an adequate meal at Planet Sub and is heading to his secondary job down the street.

Go.

Pants
10-19-2011, 12:49 PM
MU fan is a mediocre musician that's had some success in recent years, but can't quite seem to break through to the next level, and KU fan is a tourist that's in town with their family and seem to be little lost. They would really like to get Timmy to the zoo before the aquarium exhibit closes, but they missed their exit due to construction and after grabbing something to eat, they aren't sure how to continue. They're looking for directions, and come across MU fan, who has just finished an adequate meal at Planet Sub and is heading to his secondary job down the street.

Go.

Holy shit. LMAO

I don't have the capacity to make this analogy bloom.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 12:50 PM
I'm not sure I understand this. Can you please convert this into a "Meal Analogy"? You know....where MU is the lobster & KU is a hamburger that's been on the floor or something.

Actually, you just did a pretty good job of it. There's nothing for me to add.

Maybe we could combine the food and girlfriend analogies into something like this:

KU: My boyfriend who takes me to McDonalds sure is great. He can't afford to buy me a value meal like your boyfriend bought you, but at least I get a hamburger and a water.

MU: Actually, our boyfriends are losers. I'm going out with a guy with a job to a restaurant with a white tablecloth.

KU: You think that makes him better than my boyfriend? Your new boyfriend probably won't even buy you champagne to go with your prime rib.

MU: Still beats the shit out of eating at McDonalds with a guy who was trying to get the cashier's number right in front of you.

KU: Whatever. He's changed. He said he's going to marry me.

MU: Then where's the ring?

KU: It's right here on my hand. He called it a promise ring.

MU: It's plastic, and I think it came out of a gumball machine, but it's kind of shiny, I guess. Enjoy your burger.

Superturtle
10-19-2011, 01:01 PM
Actually, you just did a pretty good job of it. There's nothing for me to add.

Maybe we could combine the food and girlfriend analogies into something like this:

KU: My boyfriend who takes me to McDonalds sure is great. He can't afford to buy me a value meal like your boyfriend bought you, but at least I get a hamburger and a water.

MU: Actually, our boyfriends are losers. I'm going out with a guy with a job to a restaurant with a white tablecloth.

KU: You think that makes him better than my boyfriend? Your new boyfriend probably won't even buy you champagne to go with your prime rib.

MU: Still beats the shit out of eating at McDonalds with a guy who was trying to get the cashier's number right in front of you.

KU: Whatever. He's changed. He said he's going to marry me.

MU: Then where's the ring?

KU: It's right here on my hand. He called it a promise ring.

MU: It's plastic, and I think it came out of a gumball machine, but it's kind of shiny, I guess. Enjoy your burger.
That would be the big 10. The sec is more like applebees.

Frazod
10-19-2011, 01:02 PM
KSU fans are going to be a bit butt hurt when they get passed over for the Alamo and Cotton bowl this year and are stuck in the Insight bowl, even though they will be deserving of better. Then they might get a better grasp of what MU is tired of.

This never occurred to me, but you're right - when Missouri leaves, K-State will become the new Missouri, only even more heavily disrespected.

Something to look forward to, I guess.

WilliamTheIrish
10-19-2011, 01:04 PM
KSU fans are going to be a bit butt hurt when they get passed over for the Alamo and Cotton bowl this year and are stuck in the Insight bowl, even though they will be deserving of better. Then they might get a better grasp of what MU is tired of.

Actually, the original "passed over" for a better bowl already happened to KSU in 98.

Lost the B12 CCG in OT no less, and while still in the top 5 of the BCS with a single loss, dropped all the way to the Alamo Bowl. That's when the BCS changed their rule about only 1 team per conference in a BCS bowl.
A change which benefitted both NU and OU (2003).

What happened to MU was outright theft. That, and Alden being a dummy.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 01:07 PM
Actually, the original "passed over" for a better bowl already happened to KSU in 98.

Lost the B12 CCG in OT no less, and while still in the top 5 of the BCS with a single loss, dropped all the way to the Alamo Bowl. That's when the BCS changed their rule about only 1 team per conference in a BCS bowl.
A change which benefitted both NU and OU (2003).

What happened to MU was outright theft. That, and Alden being a dummy.

Could you please explain this with an analogy about dancing?

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 01:08 PM
This never occurred to me, but you're right - when Missouri leaves, K-State will become the new Missouri, only even more heavily disrespected.

Something to look forward to, I guess.

And KSU will be KU's new "rival".

Instead of playing for the Border War drum, they will wave the wheat in unison at midfield of Olathe North's stadium.

WilliamTheIrish
10-19-2011, 01:09 PM
Could you please explain this with an analogy about dancing?

KSU was dancing and fell off the stage, breaking it's neck. No paralysis, but rehab was long and arduous.

WilliamTheIrish
10-19-2011, 01:11 PM
And KSU will be KU's new "rival".

Instead of playing for the Border War drum, they will wave the wheat in unison at midfield of Olathe North's stadium.

They'll have to find another rival. We have Texas. (if they can win a few to make it less one sided)

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 01:12 PM
That would be the big 10. The sec is more like applebees.

Please give me a junior membership to the B1G instead of a full membership in the best conference on the planet (and the only one that's mattered for most of the past decade).

I'd much rather play at Minnesota than LSU.

Pants
10-19-2011, 01:14 PM
They'll have to find another rival. We have Texas. (if they can win a few to make it less one sided)

I don't know how to break this to you, but I think UT considers Oklahoma their rival. I think they even have a name for that rivalry.

Pants
10-19-2011, 01:15 PM
Please give me a junior membership to the B1G instead of a full membership in the best conference on the planet (and the only one that's mattered for most of the past decade).

I'd much rather play at Minnesota than LSU.

I'm curious. Were you saying you'd rather go to the SEC when you thought there was a Big 10 invite on the table?

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 01:16 PM
That would be the big 10. The sec is more like applebees.

The Big 10 is Applebee's... a lot of people love it, and I still haven't figured out why. The SEC is like Gates... you could nitpick, but it's pretty darn good, and I wonder how some people can hate it.

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 01:17 PM
I'm curious. Were you saying you'd rather go to the SEC when you thought there was a Big 10 invite on the table?


You know the answer to that. MU was the sleazy chick at the bar looking to go home with anyone but the guys she came with. She was sitting there..... staring at the Big 10, dress on, panties off, legs spread.

WilliamTheIrish
10-19-2011, 01:18 PM
I don't know how to break this to you, but I think UT considers Oklahoma their rival. I think they even have a name for that rivalry.

It's been declared. Completely out of my hands. Just accept it Pants.

mnchiefsguy
10-19-2011, 01:18 PM
Just noticed it is after 2 o'clock. KK had his daily meltdown yet?

baitism
10-19-2011, 01:18 PM
I'm curious. Were you saying you'd rather go to the SEC when you thought there was a Big 10 invite on the table?

I wouldn't have said that last year, but it really seems like Big 10 football is going downhill. So many of their traditional powers (Michigan, Penn State, Purdue) have been bad for many years that you can't really consider them powers anymore.

Saulbadguy
10-19-2011, 01:19 PM
I don't know how to break this to you, but I think UT considers Oklahoma their rival. I think they even have a name for that rivalry.

You've never heard of the Chisolm Trail Rivalry? Man, you are a bigger dumbass than I thought.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 01:19 PM
I'm curious. Were you saying you'd rather go to the SEC when you thought there was a Big 10 invite on the table?

I wanted the Big 10 because of the academic affiliations. When they added Nebraska, however, it was clear that academics mean very, very, very little in terms of conference realignment.

So, since it's all about football, bring on the SEC. Mizzou will have to be savvy to get to a point of being a threat in this league, but it will make for some fun Saturdays of watching great football/teams/players.

Pants
10-19-2011, 01:19 PM
It's been declared. Completely out of my hands. Just accept it Pants.

I accept it.

mnchiefsguy
10-19-2011, 01:19 PM
It's been declared. Completely out of my hands. Just accept it Pants.

I will say this, not sure you can say KSU-Texas is a rivalry, especially considering Texas is K-State's bitch on the field most of the time. Got to give KSU credit for that.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 01:21 PM
I'm curious. Were you saying you'd rather go to the SEC when you thought there was a Big 10 invite on the table?

Hell no. I didn't mention a move to the SEC at all when it wasn't on the table. Applebee's may not be Capital Grill, but some boneless buffalo wings and a Brewtis look pretty good, when you've been eating McRibs for the past 15 years.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 01:22 PM
You know the answer to that. MU was the sleazy chick at the bar looking to go home with anyone but the guys she came with. She was sitting there..... staring at the Big 10, dress on, panties off, legs spread.

New analogy is new.

Or could it be that a conference is trying to improve their footprint and increase television markets. Mizzou obviously lacks the football tradition of a place like Nebraska, which thus swings a heavier financial hammer in terms of that sport, but it does bring with it a host of other attributes (including a much stronger academic CV, which as I've already noted is nothing but a nicety).

evenfall
10-19-2011, 01:23 PM
I'm curious. Were you saying you'd rather go to the SEC when you thought there was a Big 10 invite on the table?

I was in favor of the prospective Big 10 move because it would be an upgrade over the Big 12 and because I live in Big 10 country. I am in favor of the SEC move because its an upgrade over the Big 12. The Big 10 would have been better for me geographically, and they already have a tv network I could watch everything on. But I'm sure the SEC will have one too when the dust settles. The SEC is probably better for our football program anyway.

As far as I am concerned either would have been great. If you are in the #4 (and falling) conference and someone asks if you'd like to be in #1 or #2 your answer should be "yes."

Saulbadguy
10-19-2011, 01:23 PM
Analogy fail.


MU is your relative/friend that always wants to borrow money because they have a "sure thing" going down, and they are "good for it".

Then they disappear for 5 years, and come back with a couple missing fingers and walk with a limp.

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 01:24 PM
I'd much rather play at Minnesota than LSU.

These are always great... you pick the most boring from one side and the best from the SEC.

In restaurant terms: I'd much rather lick the filth off the floor of the kitchen at OK Joe's than eat the prime rib at the Majestic Steakhouse.

In dating terms: I'd much rather date the ugliest girl on eHarmony than the most beautiful lady in the bar.

In dancing terms: I'd much rather dance with the one legged woman on America's Got Talent than Anna Trebunskaya* on Dancing with the Stars.

In employment terms: I'd much rather be a security guard at Google than CEO of Apple.


*I Googled that...

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 01:26 PM
New analogy is new.

Or could it be that a conference is trying to improve their footprint and increase television markets. Mizzou obviously lacks the football tradition of a place like Nebraska, which thus swings a heavier financial hammer in terms of that sport, but it does bring with it a host of other attributes (including a much stronger academic CV, which as I've already noted is nothing but a nicety).


So, what you're saying is the sleazy chick has some nice tits. :p

Saulbadguy
10-19-2011, 01:27 PM
The Big 10 is Applebee's... a lot of people love it, and I still haven't figured out why. The SEC is like Gates... you could nitpick, but it's pretty darn good, and I wonder how some people can hate it.

Playing in the Big 10 is like eating at a crappy chinese buffet. It's bland, boring, and things tend to slowwwwwwwwwww down after a few plates.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 01:28 PM
So, what you're saying is the sleazy chick has some nice tits. :p

LMAO.

Yes.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 01:30 PM
I wanted the Big 10 because of the academic affiliations. When they added Nebraska, however, it was clear that academics mean very, very, very little in terms of conference realignment.

So, since it's all about football, bring on the SEC. Mizzou will have to be savvy to get to a point of being a threat in this league, but it will make for some fun Saturdays of watching great football/teams/players.

Nebraska was an AAU school when the Big 10 took them. Nice try....

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 01:30 PM
Playing in the Big 10 is like eating at a crappy chinese buffet. It's bland, boring, and things tend to slowwwwwwwwwww down after a few plates.

speaking of, you should try Hong Kong sometime if you haven't....the new remodel did wonders.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 01:33 PM
Nebraska was an AAU school when the Big 10 took them. Nice try....

Because all AAU schools are created equal. I mean, really, Nebraska is--I mean "was"--the same as Missouri, which is the same as Harvard.

All AAUs are the same thing.

Anyone who didn't know that Nebraska was/is a middling academic institution isn't knowledgeable about this subject.

Don't get me wrong, even otherwise mediocre places have some outstanding degree programs, but we're talking about overall cache of name.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 01:34 PM
Because all AAU schools are created equal. I mean, really, Nebraska is--I mean "was"--the same as Missouri, which is the same as Harvard.

All AAUs are the same thing.

Anyone who didn't know that Nebraska was/is a middling academic institution isn't knowledgeable about this subject.

Don't get me wrong, even otherwise mediocre places have some outstanding degree programs, but we're talking about overall cache of name.

but that's been MUs argument all along....they are AAU, and Big 10 was AAU, hell, now there's even been posturing that SEC would have more AAUs than the Big 12. So AAU means something.......or it's mean nothing? I'm confused.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 01:36 PM
These are always great... you pick the most boring from one side and the best from the SEC.

In restaurant terms: I'd much rather lick the filth off the floor of the kitchen at OK Joe's than eat the prime rib at the Majestic Steakhouse.

In dating terms: I'd much rather date the ugliest girl on eHarmony than the most beautiful lady in the bar.

In dancing terms: I'd much rather dance with the one legged woman on America's Got Talent than Anna Trebunskaya* on Dancing with the Stars.

In employment terms: I'd much rather be a security guard at Google than CEO of Apple.


*I Googled that...

LSU isn't the coolest SEC location. Would you prefer the Swamp in Florida? Between the hedges in Georgia? The grove in Mississippi? Bryant-Denny in Alabama? Neyland in Tennessee?

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 01:39 PM
but that's been MUs argument all along....they are AAU, and Big 10 was AAU, hell, now there's even been posturing that SEC would have more AAUs than the Big 12. So AAU means something.......or it's mean nothing? I'm confused.

Of course it means something for the actual members, but the point is that there's still a hierarchy of AAU universities.

Does it really matter in terms of conference alignment? Not really. It's a bullshit talking point for university presidents and alumni. The CIC makes the Big 10 different, however, because there's an actual fiscal advantage for the academic side.

Nebraska was invited for football. Period. The academics obviously received little more than a cursory glance. Otherwise, other institutions in the conference wouldn't have been too surprised when UNL lost its AAU standing; it didn't happen overnight.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 01:42 PM
Of course it means something for the actual members, but the point is that there's still a hierarchy of AAU universities.

Does it really matter in terms of conference alignment? Not really. It's a bullshit talking point for university presidents and alumni. The CIC makes the Big 10 different, however, because there's an actual fiscal advantage for the academic side.

Nebraska as invited for football. Period. The academics obviously received little more than a cursory glance. Otherwise, other institutions in the conference wouldn't have been too surprised when UNL lost its AAU standing; it didn't happen overnight.


soooo....NU has singlehandedly ruined the academics of the Big 10?

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 01:44 PM
U of Missouri BOC is meeting at UMKC this Thurs/Fri and KK is generously willing to help people organize to protest the possibility of Mizzou leaving the Big 12.

LMAO.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 01:45 PM
soooo....NU has singlehandedly ruined the academics of the Big 10?

Wickedson thinks you're throwing out absurd non sequitirs.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 01:45 PM
soooo....NU has singlehandedly ruined the academics of the Big 10?

Tarnished the overall image that "all of our members are AAU members?" Of course; it's no longer true, and that was one of the Big 10's calling cards.

evenfall
10-19-2011, 01:47 PM
U of Missouri BOC is meeting at UMKC this Thurs/Fri and KK is generously willing to help people organize to protest the possibility of Mizzou leaving the Big 12.

LMAO.

OccupyMizzou!

Amazing.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 01:48 PM
U of Missouri BOC is meeting at UMKC this Thurs/Fri and KK is generously willing to help people organize to protest the possibility of Mizzou leaving the Big 12.

LMAO.

Nobody cares about Mizzou!!! /sets self on fire in protest to make them stay

Chocolate Hog
10-19-2011, 01:54 PM
Does this mean we'll hear more about football instead of shitty college basketball in jan/feb?

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 01:58 PM
lol, Tigerboard just banned any discussion of KK.

Bowser
10-19-2011, 01:59 PM
U of Missouri BOC is meeting at UMKC this Thurs/Fri and KK is generously willing to help people organize to protest the possibility of Mizzou leaving the Big 12.

LMAO.

I'll gladly start a petition for K-State to join the Mountain West, if that will make him feel better.

NewChief
10-19-2011, 01:59 PM
LSU isn't the coolest SEC location. Would you prefer the Swamp in Florida? Between the hedges in Georgia? The grove in Mississippi? Bryant-Denny in Alabama? Neyland in Tennessee?

Count the number of SEC teams on this list:

http://www.tailgatermonthly-digital.com/tailgatermonthly/201109/?folio=40&u1=subs#pg60

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 02:00 PM
lol, Tigerboard just banned any discussion of KK.

lol, KSU fans just don't care about Mizzou!

Just leave already!

Get out of here!

ROFL

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 02:00 PM
I'll gladly start a petition for K-State to join the Mountain West, if that will make him feel better.

:LOL:

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 02:01 PM
lol, Tigerboard just banned any discussion of KK.

Do you tell the people on Tigerboard that you don't care about Mizzou?

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 02:01 PM
I'll gladly start a petition for K-State to join the Mountain West, if that will make him feel better.

:thumb:

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 02:05 PM
Do you tell the people on Tigerboard that you don't care about Mizzou?

no more than I have told the fine folks from KU, TCU, and other places I'm a message board member....

Bambi
10-19-2011, 02:21 PM
KK and Jack Harry r gonna have a fight.

kstater
10-19-2011, 02:21 PM
KK and Jack Harry r gonna have a fight.

BITB Clownsuiting Mad Jack.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 02:23 PM
LMAO at KK.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 02:26 PM
Fans, don't ever attend another Chiefs or Royals game because the stadiums are in Missouri.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 02:26 PM
I finally had t turn in to hear Jack Harry meltdown. He's hilarious. I can't believe he honestly thinks the Big 12 would and should keep the tourny in Missouri if Mizzou leaves the conference. Have another drink Jack...

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 02:27 PM
"Because I feel bad for Missouri...I do."

Bambi
10-19-2011, 02:27 PM
I finally had t turn in to hear Jack Harry meltdown. He's hilarious. I can't believe he honestly thinks the Big 12 would and should keep the tourny in Missouri if Mizzou leaves the conference. Have another drink Jack...

Sprint "the Izod" Center

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 02:27 PM
Fans, don't ever attend another Chiefs or Royals game because the stadiums are in Missouri.

What does that have to do with Big 12 business? KK finally had a valid point....would the Big 10 EVER have their tourney in STL?

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 02:29 PM
What does that have to do with Big 12 business? KK finally had a valid point....would the Big 10 EVER have their tourney in STL?

I thought many were saying that KC was a KU town? STL is not, in any shape or fashion, an Illinois town.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 02:30 PM
Just read an interesting tidbit. Over the past 10 years, MU is the fastest growing university in the AAU. aTm is second.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 02:31 PM
I thought many were saying that KC was a KU town? STL is not, in any shape or fashion, an Illinois town.

It's still a state not represented in the conference. Should we have it in Omaha next? And who cares if it's a KU town or whatever. It. Is. Not. In. Big 12. Territory. Goodland Kansas probably roots for the Broncos.....you think Denver gives a shit?

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 02:33 PM
I finally had t turn in to hear Jack Harry meltdown. He's hilarious. I can't believe he honestly thinks the Big 12 would and should keep the tourny in Missouri if Mizzou leaves the conference. Have another drink Jack...

Of course they should. Haven't we heard KC is the best place to have the tourney? Then why move it to Dallas? Big 12 would be cutting off its nose to spite its face.

Don't be such drama queens. You guys can borrow Sprint Center for a few days, we don't mind.

beer bacon
10-19-2011, 02:34 PM
Of course they should. Haven't we heard KC is the best place to have the tourney? Then why move it to Dallas? Big 12 would be cutting off its nose to spite its face.

Don't be such drama queens. You guys can borrow Sprint Center for a few days, we don't mind.

As long as they pay rent.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 02:38 PM
What does that have to do with Big 12 business? KK finally had a valid point....would the Big 10 EVER have their tourney in STL?

1. St. Louis has never hosted the tourney.

2. St. Louis isn't a B1G city.

3. St. Louis isn't located in the middle of the B1G.

Other than that, good point.

Bambi
10-19-2011, 02:38 PM
Of course they should. Haven't we heard KC is the best place to have the tourney? Then why move it to Dallas? Big 12 would be cutting off its nose to spite its face.

Don't be such drama queens. You guys can borrow Sprint Center for a few days, we don't mind.

Mitch Holtus wants to build a roof over the soccer field!

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 02:41 PM
1. St. Louis has never hosted the tourney.

2. St. Louis isn't a B1G city.

3. St. Louis isn't located in the middle of the B1G.

Other than that, good point.

If Mizzou leaves, KC is no longer central to the Big 12.

It's as absurd as the Mizzou fans thinking KC would ever host an SEC tourney.

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 02:45 PM
1. St. Louis has never hosted the tourney.

2. St. Louis isn't a B1G city.

3. St. Louis isn't located in the middle of the B1G.

Other than that, good point.

And soon, KC, MO won't be in the middle of Big XII country, nor will it be a Big XII city. What I can't believe is that people from KC, MO would think the Big XII would want to continue it in KC, MO. It makes absolutely no sense. It will move to OKC and spots in Texas. I don't know why people would think the conference would be hunky dory with giving a non Big XII city revenues generated from a Big XII event. Does any other Big 6 conference do that?

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 02:49 PM
And soon, KC, MO won't be in the middle of Big XII country, nor will it be a Big XII city. What I can't believe is that people from KC, MO would think the Big XII would want to continue it in KC, MO. It makes absolutely no sense. It will move to OKC and spots in Texas. I don't know why people would think the conference would be hunky dory with giving a non Big XII city revenues generated from a Big XII event. Does any other Big 6 conference do that?

I don't expect it to stay in the Sprint Center. I wonder if there is some sort of contract between the conference and the arena, though.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 02:49 PM
And soon, KC, MO won't be in the middle of Big XII country, nor will it be a Big XII city. What I can't believe is that people from KC, MO would think the Big XII would want to continue it in KC, MO. It makes absolutely no sense. It will move to OKC and spots in Texas. I don't know why people would think the conference would be hunky dory with giving a non Big XII city revenues generated from a Big XII event. Does any other Big 6 conference do that?

But all Big 12 fans, even OU and TX fans, say the Big 12 tournament sucks in Dallas and OKC compared to KC. Even if Mizzou is gone, you still have three local schools. You would really rather have a shittier tournament just to not have it in KCMO?

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 02:53 PM
But all Big 12 fans, even OU and TX fans, say the Big 12 tournament sucks in Dallas and OKC compared to KC. Even if Mizzou is gone, you still have three local schools. You would really rather have a shittier tournament just to not have it in KCMO?


don't equate fan preference for our own selfish reasons with business decisions of the conference.

Stewie
10-19-2011, 02:54 PM
KCMO and Jackson County are the big loser in all of this... as usual. That group can't get enough stupid fans/voters.

Los Pollos Hermanos
10-19-2011, 02:56 PM
I don't follow politics much but if I'm following this thread correctly: Texas is Wall Street. Mizzou fans are the Occupy Wall Street protesters. They are angry Texas has too much money. KU and KState are the middle class workers who don't like Texas having all the money but don't have time to picket because they have mortgages to pay.

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 02:56 PM
I don't expect it to stay in the Sprint Center. I wonder if there is some sort of contract between the conference and the arena, though.

Yeah, don't know the specifics about that. I'm sure there are cancellation fees, but I don't know if the Big XII actually made reservations beyond next year. Announcing their intentions and finalizing deals can be two separate things.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 02:57 PM
don't equate fan preference for our own selfish reasons with business decisions of the conference.

Having a shitty tournament with lower attendance would not be a potential business consideration for the conference? Really?

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 02:59 PM
I don't follow politics much but if I'm following this thread correctly: Texas is Wall Street. Mizzou fans are the Occupy Wall Street protesters. They are angry Texas has too much money. KU and KState are the middle class workers who don't like Texas having all the money but don't have time to picket because they have mortgages to pay.

There have been probably thousands of different analogies in the two conference realignment threads, and this has to be - by far - the worst attempt.

I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 02:59 PM
Having a shitty tournament with lower attendance would not be a potential business consideration for the conference? Really?

it would, as would be giving all that money to a city and state not affiliated otherwise with the conference. I bet having the tourney in Vegas would be beneficial for attendance too...but it isn't gonna happen.

Chocolate Hog
10-19-2011, 03:00 PM
KCMO and Jackson County are the big loser in all of this... as usual. That group can't get enough stupid fans/voters.

Best post in the whole thread.

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 03:01 PM
And soon, KC, MO won't be in the middle of Big XII country, nor will it be a Big XII city. What I can't believe is that people from KC, MO would think the Big XII would want to continue it in KC, MO. It makes absolutely no sense. It will move to OKC and spots in Texas. I don't know why people would think the conference would be hunky dory with giving a non Big XII city revenues generated from a Big XII event. Does any other Big 6 conference do that?

Yeah, it sucks, especially since Lawrence is so close and it would still be a great place for the tourney. If it wasn't for the state line, it would be like Atlanta, which hosts ACC and SEC events because of Georgia Tech & Georgia.

OKC is only five hours away. :sulk:

Pleeeeeeeeeaassssseeeee stay!!! :deevee:


Really though, it's not like it's KCMO's decision... I get the logic of not wanting a Big 12 event in an SEC state, but like it's been said, the Big 12 would be cutting off its nose to spite its face. If they have events in KCMO, they could at least pretend that it's more of a Big 12 market, while the SEC events stay in the Southeast.

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 03:01 PM
But all Big 12 fans, even OU and TX fans, say the Big 12 tournament sucks in Dallas and OKC compared to KC. Even if Mizzou is gone, you still have three local schools. You would really rather have a shittier tournament just to not have it in KCMO?

There's no doubt it won't be as good, but there's no sense in continuing to hold it in a state that doesn't have a conference member. Nebraska is gone, MU may be. OKC really isn't that much futher, you can make it in under a day. Further for ISU, but what isn't? I feel bad for KC, but if the state school has little regard for those traditions and histories, why should the conference it was once a member of continue them? I mean, if MU doesn't see the Big XII as the future they want to hold, then KC, MO and St. Louis will have to look south with their school.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 03:02 PM
it would, as would be giving all that money to a city and state not affiliated otherwise with the conference. I bet having the tourney in Vegas would be beneficial for attendance too...but it isn't gonna happen.

So Big 12 and its fans are willfully choosing to have a shittier conference out of spite for Mizzou leaving for the SEC. Got it.

And here I thought no one cared.

Saul Good
10-19-2011, 03:02 PM
As far as business decisions go, KC still likely has more fans of Big XII teams than any city outside of Texas. If they pull the tourney out of KC, they are ceding the town to the SEC.

KU gains a lot of young fans when they bring their road show to KC. Not anymore it seems.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 03:04 PM
it would, as would be giving all that money to a city and state not affiliated otherwise with the conference. I bet having the tourney in Vegas would be beneficial for attendance too...but it isn't gonna happen.

Yeah, Vegas is an apt comparison to KC. And the fact that Kemper/Sprint Center was/is considered Allen Field House East will have nothing to do with what happens in the future.

When the drama cloud settles, I'd be willing to bet that Sprint Center will still be hosting the basketball tournament. And everything will be OK.

Because it's not just a revenue boost for the state of Missouri. I know quite a few people who go in for the tournament and stay in Overland Park.

tomahawk kid
10-19-2011, 03:05 PM
Yeah, Vegas is an apt comparison to KC. And the fact that Kemper/Sprint Center was/is considered Allen Field House East will have nothing to do with what happens in the future.

When the drama cloud settles, I'd be willing to bet that Sprint Center will still be hosting the basketball tournament. And everything will be OK.

Because it's not just a revenue boost for the state of Missouri. I know quite a few people who go in for the tournament and stay in Overland Park.

This.

IT'S ALL GONNA BE OKAY.......at least for the next year or two......

Chocolate Hog
10-19-2011, 03:06 PM
Yeah, Vegas is an apt comparison to KC. And the fact that Kemper/Sprint Center was/is considered Allen Field House East will have nothing to do with what happens in the future.

When the drama cloud settles, I'd be willing to bet that Sprint Center will still be hosting the basketball tournament. And everything will be OK.

Because it's not just a revenue boost for the state of Missouri. I know quite a few people who go in for the tournament and stay in Overland Park.

Then why was Sly James begging Mizzou to stay?

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 03:08 PM
Yeah, it sucks, especially since Lawrence is so close and it would still be a great place for the tourney. If it wasn't for the state line, it would be like Atlanta, which hosts ACC and SEC events because of Georgia Tech & Georgia.

OKC is only five hours away. :sulk:

Pleeeeeeeeeaassssseeeee stay!!! :deevee:


Really though, it's not like it's KCMO's decision... I get the logic of not wanting a Big 12 event in an SEC state, but like it's been said, the Big 12 would be cutting off its nose to spite its face. If they have events in KCMO, they could at least pretend that it's more of a Big 12 market, while the SEC events stay in the Southeast.

Here's the thing. KU, KSU and ISU fans all benefit from it staying in KC, but seven other schools don't. There's no way the Big XII as a whole supports it and there's no way those three schools would put up much of a fight to try. More of a "it sucks, but what are you going to do, reward Missouri?"

I've been to OKC Bricktown. If they decide to settle in there and give them a chance to make it there own, it could still be a great event. It will never be KC, but, that's one of the traditions that gets tossed aside in these 100 year decisions.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 03:08 PM
Then why was Sly James begging Mizzou to stay?

Because he's scared that their departure will further destabilize the conference, thus jeopardizing the standing of the proud purple.

tomahawk kid
10-19-2011, 03:11 PM
Y'know - I've always thought in relation to sports, if other fans are hating on your team, it means you're doing something right.

The ridiculous predictions (i.e. Mizzou will be the Iowa State of the SEC) & the amount of venom and anger being spewed towards Mizzou reinforces the thought we're 100% making the correct move here.

Pants
10-19-2011, 03:13 PM
So Big 12 and its fans are willfully choosing to have a shittier conference out of spite for Mizzou leaving for the SEC. Got it.

And here I thought no one cared.

Holy shit, you're trying way too hard. The fans have no say in this.

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 03:13 PM
Y'know - I've always thought in relation to sports, if other fans are hating on your team, it means you're doing something right.

The ridiculous predictions (i.e. Mizzou will be the Iowa State of the SEC) & the amount of venom and anger being spewed towards Mizzou reinforces the thought we're 100% making the correct move here.

So you can be next to irrelevant in another conference while trying to invent new rivalries with Arkansas. Oh, wait, they'll be in the West. Whose gonna hate you there?

Stewie
10-19-2011, 03:14 PM
Y'know - I've always thought in relation to sports, if other fans are hating on your team, it means you're doing something right.

The ridiculous predictions (i.e. Mizzou will be the Iowa State of the SEC) & the amount of venom and anger being spewed towards Mizzou reinforces the thought we're 100% making the correct move here.

How is quitting on a conference the right thing? Hell, the SEC schools have voted to keep MU out.

tomahawk kid
10-19-2011, 03:15 PM
So you can be next to irrelevant in another conference while trying to invent new rivalries with Arkansas. Oh, wait, they'll be in the West. Whose gonna hate you there?

Irrelevant? Have you looked at the SEC East lately?

We could compete in that division today.

Could care less if anyone "hates" us.

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 03:17 PM
Irrelevant? Have you looked at the SEC East lately?

We could compete in that division today.

Could care less if anyone "hates" us.

You aren't even competing in the Big XII. You should know better than to look at any one year and judge how you are going to fare. Not many spread teams down south, good luck.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 03:17 PM
So you can be next to irrelevant in another conference?

Exactly. The commissioner and university presidents are going to sit around, discussing which irrelevant university to admit into the conference. Because, shit, it's fun!

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 03:17 PM
The ridiculous predictions (i.e. Mizzou will be the Iowa State of the SEC) & the amount of venom and anger being spewed towards Mizzou reinforces the thought we're 100% making the correct move here.


I must have missed all of the venom & anger.

Chocolate Hog
10-19-2011, 03:17 PM
Because he's scared that their departure will further destabilize the conference, thus jeopardizing the standing of the proud purple.

No it's because Kansas City would lose the Big XII tournament.

tomahawk kid
10-19-2011, 03:18 PM
How is quitting on a conference the right thing? Hell, the SEC schools have voted to keep MU out.

We're leaving the conference for a more stable situation, with a tremendous potential upside financially.

If you truely believe the SEC schools have voted to keep MU out, I've got some swampland I'll sell you in Florida.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 03:18 PM
No it's because Kansas City would lose the Big XII tournament.

I don't think it will. He's scared shitless, though, that's for sure.

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 03:18 PM
Irrelevant? Have you looked at the SEC East lately?

We could compete in that division today.

Much like you are currently competing with KU & ISU for worst in the Big 12. Congrats man!

Chocolate Hog
10-19-2011, 03:19 PM
I don't think it will. He's scared shitless, though, that's for sure.

Better get that NBA team that they promised.

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 03:20 PM
Exactly. The commissioner and university presidents are going to sit around, discussing which irrelevant university to admit into the conference. Because, shit, it's fun!

You and I both know the "attractiveness" of Mizzou lies in its potential TV markets. Don't get me wrong, you're not awful, but your athletic reputation is not why the SEC is being coerced into accepting you.

tomahawk kid
10-19-2011, 03:21 PM
You aren't even competing in the Big XII. You should know better than to look at any one year and judge how you are going to fare. Not many spread teams down south, good luck.

I guess we have different definitions of "competing".

40 wins in 4 years sounds like competing to me, but maybe I'm off my rocker.

No doubt we'll have to adjust many of our approaches, both on and off the field - but I don't think that's a reason not to go.

Stewie
10-19-2011, 03:21 PM
We're leaving the conference for a more stable situation, with a tremendous potential upside financially.

If you truely believe the SEC schools have voted to keep MU out, I've got some swampland I'll sell you in Florida.

Stable? It's just begun. Being the low man on the totem pole is not stability.

The SEC conference needs 9 votes to accept MU. They started with 7 and twisted arms to get it to 8. Still, a no-go.

tomahawk kid
10-19-2011, 03:22 PM
Much like you are currently competing with KU & ISU for worst in the Big 12. Congrats man!

You guys are funny.

I'm sorry you don't have an offer - I really am, but don't act like kU or k-state would stay loyal to the Big 9 if they had a potential offer.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 03:23 PM
You and I both know the "attractiveness" of Mizzou lies in its potential TV markets. Don't get me wrong, you're not awful, but your athletic reputation is not why the SEC is being coerced into accepting you.

so you're saying the SEC doesn't date her because she's pretty, but because she does anal?

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 03:23 PM
Holy shit, you're trying way too hard. The fans have no say in this.

Wait, so the fans want to keep it at the Sprint Center? Is that what you are saying?

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 03:24 PM
I guess we have different definitions of "competing".

40 wins in 4 years sounds like competing to me, but maybe I'm off my rocker.

No doubt we'll have to adjust many of our approaches, both on and off the field - but I don't think that's a reason not to go.

If you don't think that's a product of playing in the Big XII North for many years, then you keep sucking that pacifier. Anyone knows a dynamic playmaker at QB can lift any team, and you had a good run of them. Its fool's gold to believe that type of player will always be there for you.

tomahawk kid
10-19-2011, 03:24 PM
Stable? It's just begun. Being the low man on the totem pole is not stability.

The SEC conference needs 9 votes to accept MU. They started with 7 and twisted arms to get it to 8. Still, a no-go.

'Bama was one of the holdouts, but are "all-in" as long as Missouri is in the East (which I think will happen).

Last I had heard, we had at least 9 votes - but maybe you have better inside sources than I do. I suppose one of us will "right" in the next couple of weeks.

mikeyis4dcats.
10-19-2011, 03:25 PM
Wait, so the fans want to keep it at the Sprint Center? Is that what you are saying?

for my own selfish reasons I like the Sprint Center, it's close, and all.

But I'd be totally fine with it in OKC as well. But I don't expect it will stay there, no.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 03:25 PM
Much like you are currently competing with KU & ISU for worst in the Big 12. Congrats man!

3 games seems like a large enough sample size. You got us! :thumb:

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 03:25 PM
40 wins in 4 years sounds like competing to me, but maybe I'm off my rocker.


Pure domination.

tomahawk kid
10-19-2011, 03:25 PM
If you don't think that's a product of playing in the Big XII North for many years, then you keep sucking that pacifier. Anyone knows a dynamic playmaker at QB can lift any team, and you had a good run of them. Its fool's gold to believe that type of player will always be there for you.

You're losing me - so now we're competing, but only because we were in the North?

I thought we didn't "compete" at all?

|Zach|
10-19-2011, 03:26 PM
You and I both know the "attractiveness" of Mizzou lies in its potential TV markets. Don't get me wrong, you're not awful, but your athletic reputation is not why the SEC is being coerced into accepting you.

Oh hey! Welcome back.

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 03:26 PM
so you're saying the SEC doesn't date her because she's pretty, but because she does anal?

I'm saying the SEC's is making them marry her because she has "huge tracts of 'TV Markets'". :evil:

|Zach|
10-19-2011, 03:26 PM
You're losing me - so now we're competing, but only because we were in the North?

I thought we didn't "compete" at all?

Get used to this moving of the goal posts. It is a long and winding road of rationalizations.

Stewie
10-19-2011, 03:26 PM
'Bama was one of the holdouts, but are "all-in" as long as Missouri is in the East (which I think will happen).

Last I had heard, we had at least 9 votes - but maybe you have better inside sources than I do. I suppose one of us will "right" in the next couple of weeks.

MU in the east is a joke, but when you're the cowering puppy I guess it's as good as anything.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 03:27 PM
You and I both know the "attractiveness" of Mizzou lies in its potential TV markets. Don't get me wrong, you're not awful, but your athletic reputation is not why the SEC is being coerced into accepting you.

It's a money deal from both sides. Mizzou brings two major television markets, solid athletic programs, with exceptional facilities, and a strong academic reputation.

In many ways, A&M and Mizzou are comparable entities.

Mr. Plow
10-19-2011, 03:27 PM
3 games seems like a large enough sample size. You got us! :thumb:

Hey, I can only go with the #'s I see in front of me. I'm sure things will turn around though and you'll dominate your way to middle of the pack by end of year.

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 03:28 PM
You're losing me - so now we're competing, but only because we were in the North?

I thought we didn't "compete" at all?


How did you do against the South those years? The Big XII South that is, you know, OU and Texas?

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 03:28 PM
MU in the east is a joke, but when you're the cowering puppy I guess it's as good as anything.

The "cowering puppy" that's bouncing on the Big 12? But the rest of the league doesn't care, so that's cool.

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 03:28 PM
MU in the east is a joke, but when you're the cowering puppy I guess it's as good as anything.

But inviting BYU and West Virginia into a midwestern conference is practical and prudent.

You are on your game today.

HolyHandgernade
10-19-2011, 03:28 PM
Oh hey! Welcome back.

You're a sweetie!

Bearcat
10-19-2011, 03:30 PM
Here's the thing. KU, KSU and ISU fans all benefit from it staying in KC, but seven other schools don't. There's no way the Big XII as a whole supports it and there's no way those three schools would put up much of a fight to try. More of a "it sucks, but what are you going to do, reward Missouri?"

I've been to OKC Bricktown. If they decide to settle in there and give them a chance to make it there own, it could still be a great event. It will never be KC, but, that's one of the traditions that gets tossed aside in these 100 year decisions.

Well, I live here, so I'd rather reward KCMO for KCMO's sake... and I'd rather the Big 12 not give up on KC just because of a state line. I get the business side of it, saying it's no longer a Big 12 state, etc; and while having the BB tournament or Farmageddon here every once in a while might be viewed as funding the enemy, it isn't exactly funding the Nazis.

DeezNutz
10-19-2011, 03:30 PM
But inviting BYU and West Virginia into a midwestern conference is practical and prudent.

You are on your game today.

Good "cultural fits." The Big 12 has always been a proud supporter of Mormons the world over.

tomahawk kid
10-19-2011, 03:31 PM
MU in the east is a joke, but when you're the cowering puppy I guess it's as good as anything.

:)

eazyb81
10-19-2011, 03:32 PM
Hey, I can only go with the #'s I see in front of me. I'm sure things will turn around though and you'll dominate your way to middle of the pack by end of year.

I guess you could also use results in recent years to increase the sample size to come up with a more realistic estimate, but clearly you were not a Math major.