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teedubya
09-17-2011, 11:13 PM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/media-blackout-us-day-of-rage

So, how many have you heard about the protests in NYC today?

#takewallstreet A protest against the banksters and such.

The best coverage on this story that I've found so far is not from the US mainstream media... but Al Jazeera English.

http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/us-protesters-rally-occupywallstreet

http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/who-is-occupywallstreet-full.jpg

ClevelandBronco
09-17-2011, 11:23 PM
I had a fairly laid back Day of Rage.

teedubya
09-17-2011, 11:26 PM
My Day of Rage consisted of a day of diarrhea.

go bowe
09-17-2011, 11:45 PM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/media-blackout-us-day-of-rage

So, how many have you heard about the protests in NYC today?

#takewallstreet A protest against the banksters and such.

The best coverage on this story that I've found so far is not from the US mainstream media... but Al Jazeera English.

http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/us-protesters-rally-occupywallstreet
al jazeera rocks...

but the article didn't say how many protesters actually showed up...

have you heard how many came out?

ClevelandBronco
09-18-2011, 12:22 AM
I'm actually trying to save my energy for Fit of Pique Week.

evenfall
09-18-2011, 12:24 AM
Did they know bankers don't work Saturdays? :)

Dylan
09-18-2011, 01:24 AM
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Bob Dole
09-18-2011, 01:48 AM
Bob Dole's planned 9/28 "Day of Disgust" will get coverage.

And make a difference.

Warrior5
09-18-2011, 05:06 AM
Why would MSNBC ignore the Day of Rage?

banyon
09-18-2011, 08:01 AM
al jazeera rocks...

but the article didn't say how many protesters actually showed up...

have you heard how many came out?

From the link:

estimates have varied from hundreds to as many as 50,000 protesters flooded into Manhattan and others cities to take part in events around the country

Wow. This is certainly not the "day of accurate counting". Who can't look at a crowd and say "uh, that's 300 people." or "uh, "that's 50,000 people"?

Donger
09-18-2011, 08:28 AM
Media blackout.

LMAO

Brock
09-18-2011, 08:40 AM
From the link:



Wow. This is certainly not the "day of accurate counting". Who can't look at a crowd and say "uh, that's 300 people." or "uh, "that's 50,000 people"?

LMAO

Dylan
09-18-2011, 09:27 AM
Alajazeera =The "Anti-American" news organization

http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images/2011/9/17/201191715838303734_16.jpg

Dylan
09-18-2011, 09:31 AM
I live in Manhattan -- nothing happened -- Anyway, Wall Street is shutdown on weekends...

In this mostly blue state, there's an awful lot to be said for this.

Sparse ‘Day of Rage’

Only about 300 protesters, mostly college kids and aging hippies, showed up near the Stock Exchange for yesterday’s anti-Wall Street rally -- far fewer than the 20,000 that organizers of the so-called global “Day of Rage” had predicted.

Police barricades were put up to protect both the exchange and the iconic “Charging Bull” statue on Broadway. The barriers hardly needed.

Police said two members of the anemic crowd -- which carried signs declaring “Wall Street is our Street” -- were arrested after they tried to enter a Bank of America office at Broadway and Liberty streets wearing masks.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/sparse_day_of_rage_MrTG7UDAV9u29hAGGWNHpO#ixzz1YJo7kgH0

BucEyedPea
09-18-2011, 10:09 AM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/media-blackout-us-day-of-rage

So, how many have you heard about the protests in NYC today?

#takewallstreet A protest against the banksters and such.

The best coverage on this story that I've found so far is not from the US mainstream media... but Al Jazeera English.

http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/us-protesters-rally-occupywallstreet

This is being done by Anonymous. I heard about this yesterday over at PP.

BigChiefFan
09-18-2011, 10:25 AM
Bob Dole's planned 9/28 "Day of Disgust" will get coverage.

And make a difference.

:D

Dylan
09-18-2011, 10:35 AM
NYPost.com

Police said two members of the anemic crowd -- which carried signs declaring “Wall Street is our Street” -- were arrested after they tried to enter a Bank of America office at Broadway and Liberty streets wearing masks.

LMAO

Donger
09-18-2011, 12:17 PM
LMAO

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/wall-street-protest-begins-with-demonstrators-blocked/#?wtoeid=growl1_r1_control

At William Street, they were blocked from proceeding toward the stock exchange, and the march ended in front of a Greek Revival building housing Cipriani Wall Street. Patrons on a second-floor balcony peered down.

As some of the patrons laughed and raised drinks, the protesters responded by pointing at them and chanting “pay your share.”

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/09/18/nyregion/PROTEST/PROTEST-blog480.jpg

teedubya
09-18-2011, 02:42 PM
Regardless of how big this was. I've seen some videos with a lot of people... the people are beginning to distrust the status quo... and with protests happening at an increasing pace, worldwide... this will continue to escalate. The corporatocracy of America's govt is squashing the middle class... and eventually it will reach a boiling point.

banyon
09-18-2011, 03:00 PM
Think we need "Day of Rage" at the Truman Sports Complex next week.

HonestChieffan
09-18-2011, 03:23 PM
Think we need "Day of Rage" at the Truman Sports Complex next week.

Except we dont have a game there next week.

banyon
09-18-2011, 03:26 PM
Except we dont have a game there next week.

I meant around the front office.

Psyko Tek
09-18-2011, 03:53 PM
Regardless of how big this was. I've seen some videos with a lot of people... the people are beginning to distrust the status quo... and with protests happening at an increasing pace, worldwide... this will continue to escalate. The corporatocracy of America's govt is squashing the middle class... and eventually it will reach a boiling point.

welcome to 30 years ago
maybe 50
I belkieve Ike was the last president that was not bought and paid for
JFK had an agenda
lbj GOT THAT LEGACY
NIXON StArted the road to hell
and the rest just went with it

Psyko Tek
09-18-2011, 03:54 PM
most people have no idea how fucked we are

Calcountry
09-18-2011, 06:41 PM
most people have no idea how ****ed we areUmm, the world is going to Hell?

Saul Good
09-18-2011, 07:42 PM
Regardless of how big this was. I've seen some videos with a lot of people...

Where?

|Zach|
09-18-2011, 07:48 PM
From the link:



Wow. This is certainly not the "day of accurate counting". Who can't look at a crowd and say "uh, that's 300 people." or "uh, "that's 50,000 people"?

LMAOLMAO

mnchiefsguy
09-18-2011, 09:58 PM
Not like al jazeera can be a trusted media outlet or anything. There are a safe harbor of journalistic integrity.

go bowe
09-18-2011, 10:29 PM
actually, al jazeera has excellent mostly-unbiased news coverage, world-wide...

they got a bad rap by airing the osama tapes, but they really have exhibited journalistic integrity for a long time now...

i regard them as at least as reputable as the washington times and the wall street journal along with the usual msm culprits...

each day, i read al jazeera first before going to the dc forum...

what's that? you say this is a chiefs message board?

who's the chiefs? :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

KILLER_CLOWN
09-18-2011, 11:47 PM
Umm, the world is going to Hell?

All but about 144,000 yes.

Jesus said it will be just like the days of Noah, not many survived that if you recall.

Brock
09-19-2011, 12:06 PM
All but about 144,000 yes.

Jesus said it will be just like the days of Noah, not many survived that if you recall.

See you there!

ChiTown
09-19-2011, 12:34 PM
Regardless of how big this was. I've seen some videos with a lot of people... the people are beginning to distrust the status quo... and with protests happening at an increasing pace, worldwide... this will continue to escalate. The corporatocracy of America's govt is squashing the middle class... and eventually it will reach a boiling point.

YOU WILL ALL PAY SOME DAY, ALL OF YOU! DO YOU HEAR ME? YOU WILL PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Iowanian
09-19-2011, 12:48 PM
They should have more appropriately named it "Day of Douchebags"

KILLER_CLOWN
09-19-2011, 02:47 PM
They should have more appropriately named it "Day of Douchebags"

That's pretty much everyday on Wall Street, this was a break from the norm.

RNR
09-19-2011, 05:41 PM
All but about 144,000 yes.

Jesus said it will be just like the days of Noah, not many survived that if you recall.

Really? That is your play here?

ChiTown
09-19-2011, 08:48 PM
That's pretty much everyday on Wall Street, this was a break from the norm.

What would you like to see different on Wall Street?

HonestChieffan
09-19-2011, 09:26 PM
Here is one of the protesters. Looks like your average liberal arts/general studies flunk out who wont pay his college loan to show the man.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/09/misfit-politics-presents-its-a-day-of-raaage-video/


http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Dayof-Rage-Hippie.jpg

KILLER_CLOWN
09-19-2011, 09:51 PM
What would you like to see different on Wall Street?

<iframe width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/yge311sFhC8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

:D

Amnorix
09-20-2011, 06:08 AM
Regardless of how big this was. I've seen some videos with a lot of people... the people are beginning to distrust the status quo... and with protests happening at an increasing pace, worldwide... this will continue to escalate. The corporatocracy of America's govt is squashing the middle class... and eventually it will reach a boiling point.


If this reflects the current rate of the "increasing pace" and "escalation", then get back to me in 2430 or so and we'll see if we need to react. For now, it seems a typical disenchanted fringe youth Day of Rage. And let's face it, disenfranched fringe youths are raging daily about something. Tomorrow it will be about Subway going to tessalated cheese.

Amnorix
09-20-2011, 06:08 AM
All but about 144,000 yes.

Jesus said it will be just like the days of Noah, not many survived that if you recall.



Pssst....it didn't really happen.

ChiTown
09-20-2011, 08:46 AM
<iframe width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/yge311sFhC8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

:D

So, you don't really know, but thought you'd just join along in the hate Wall Street club. Gotcha.

ChiTown
09-20-2011, 08:51 AM
Here is one of the protesters. Looks like your average liberal arts/general studies flunk out who wont pay his college loan to show the man.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/09/misfit-politics-presents-its-a-day-of-raaage-video/


http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Dayof-Rage-Hippie.jpg

Maybe he can also put an end to poor hygiene and find a razor and a tooth brush.

BucEyedPea
09-20-2011, 08:53 AM
So, you don't really know, but thought you'd just join along in the hate Wall Street club. Gotcha.

That is an ad hoc group of people not just a bunch of anarchists and socialists. There are right-wing, free-market people there such as libertarians who were against TARP and the Big Bank Bailouts and govt connected financial institutions that were bailed out by stealing money from tax payers. There are corrupt elements on Wall Street that engage in crony capitalism, mercantilism, corruption and fraud for their own benefit. This kind of behavior led to the semi-nationalization of the financial sector.

You can see just from watching the video who it's targeting, AIG for one, and the dubbing of that brief narrative in that hilarious video.

BucEyedPea
09-20-2011, 10:13 AM
Love the comment by one of the posters on that You Tube page: "Jump or be pushed." LMAO

teedubya
09-24-2011, 10:26 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/police-pen-up-and-mace-female-occupy-wall-street-protesters/

Police pen up and mace female ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protesters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moD2JnGTToA

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suzzer99
09-25-2011, 10:23 AM
NY Times and CNN.com finally reporting on this, a week into it. I don't identify with most hippie-granola protest movements. But I would be down there with these kids if I could. Special interests on both sides are destroying this country.

The unions (who I feel are much less dangerous) are getting smacked around a good deal right now. Yet Wall St. has been nothing but rewarded for their pathological destruction of our economy in the name of pure greed. And apparently will continue to be nothing but rewarded. The SEC is completely co-opted by their revolving door. And congress is getting that way. This is terrifying imo.

teedubya
09-27-2011, 06:37 PM
It's gaining steam. Holy shit.

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KILLER_CLOWN
09-28-2011, 11:02 PM
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teedubya
09-29-2011, 04:40 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/28/article-0-0E1D765400000578-497_634x422.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2042680/Wall-Street-Protests-Continental-United-Airlines-pilots-fed-bosses.html#ixzz1ZInwvzqQ

teedubya
09-29-2011, 04:41 PM
According to Daily Kos, The New York Transit Workers Union (TWU) voted to support the Wall Street Protestors at their meeting last night.

A member of TWU Local 100 told a reporter that they would join the protest Friday at 4PM.

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-massive-union-just-voted-to-side-with-the-wall-street-protesters-2011-9

teedubya
09-30-2011, 11:17 AM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/315329_290797900947025_137026386324178_1236356_507082133_n.jpg

Lzen
09-30-2011, 11:18 AM
It's gaining steam. Holy shit.

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Interesting that they say they are tired of the corruption in our governing body yet only protest Wall Street. Perhaps they should think about doing this in D.C..

Lzen
09-30-2011, 11:21 AM
http://web.gbtv.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=19709001&topic_id=24584158&tcid=vpp_copy_19709001&v=3

teedubya
09-30-2011, 01:20 PM
I can't believe this commentary was on MSNBC.

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KILLER_CLOWN
10-01-2011, 09:28 PM
October 1, 2011 - TAMPA, FL - The Occupy Wall Street movement may have just received an unexpected surprise – United States Army and Marine troops are reportedly on their way to various protest locations to support the movement and to protect the protesters.

Army serviceman Ward Reilly posted the following on Facebook:
“I'm heading up there tonight in my dress blues. So far, 15 of my fellow marine buddies are meeting me there, also in Uniform.
I want to send the following message to Wall St and Congress:
I didn't fight for Wall St. I fought for America. Now it's Congress' turn

http://1newsjunkie.blogspot.com/


Unions Vote Unanimously to Support Occupy Wall Street: Who’s Next?

The Transit Workers Union boasts 38,000 members and they voted unanimously to support and join the Occupy Wall Street protesters. This and other union support should help the cause.
Wednesday night the New York Transit Workers Union (TWU Local 100), which represents 38,000 train and bus workers, voted unanimously to support Occupy Wall Street.

This is certainly good news for the Occupation who are attempting, despite cynicism and a media fixated on arrests, to crystallize their message. A strong union’s support should give Occupy Wall Street some needed strength as far as publicity and clarity of vision for those on the Left who are not yet willing to take the protest seriously. The TWU also has something to say about being affected by corporate greed.

They already have the support of Cornel West and the sympathy of journalists like Keith Olbermann and Lawrence O’Donnell, as well as the left’s provocateur Michael Moore.

The TWU has organized the Community/Labor March to Wall Street on Wednesday, October 5th from 4:30 to 7:30pm to, as they say, “welcome the protesters and show the faces of New Yorkers hardest hit by corporate greed.”

The page also states, “Union workers and community members impacted by the economic crisis have been demanding that Wall Street and the wealthiest New Yorkers pay their fair share of taxes.” Touche.

The march is sponsored by United NY, Strong Economy for All Coalition, Working Families Party, VOCAL-NY, Community Voices Heard, Alliance for Quality Education, New York Communities for Change, Coalition for the Homeless and Neighborhood Economic Development Advocacy Project (NEDAP).

The New York Metro Area Postal Union and SEIU 1199, a healthcare workers union, are also planning to throw their support at the Occupation at Wednesday, Oct. 5th rally, according to Crain’s New York.

SEIU 32BJ, a 70,000-strong union representing doormen, security guards and maintenance workers, is repurposing its October 12th rally to back OWS. 32BJ spokesman Kwame Patterson, according to Huffington Post, is quoted as saying ”we’re all coming under one cause, even though we have our different initiatives.”

It should be noted that this support goes both ways—on Tuesday, OWS protesters marched to a United States Postal Service rally to support the postal workers. Michael Kink, director of The Strong Economy for All Coalition, explained, “Their fight is our fight… They’ve chosen the right targets. We also want to see a society where folks other than the top 1 percent have a chance to say how things go.”

It’s about time the rest of New York City and America, who already have the indignation, to join the movement. Intuitively, many hundreds of millions of Americans know Occupy Wall Street is right in their attempts to change the political and financial tapestry of America.

The Occupation knows that we cannot count on politicians to do it—that a vote in an election and a prayer that a politician will represent our best interests is wishful thinking at best and delusion at worst. We should thus applaud the unions for taking up the cause alongside Occupy Wall Street.

Now, join the 99% in showing the richest 1% in this country that they should start trembling.

Wake up.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/147017/unions-vote-unanimously-to-support-occupy-wall-street-whos-next/

“J.P. Morgan Chase “donates” $4.6 Million to NYPD” #OccupyWallStreet

JPMorgan Chase recently donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation and will enable the New York City Police Department to strengthen security in the Big Apple. The money will pay for 1,000 new patrol car laptops, as well as security monitoring software in the NYPD’s main data center.
New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly sent CEO and Chairman Jamie Dimon a note expressing “profound gratitude” for the company’s donation.
“These officers put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe,” Dimon said. “We’re incredibly proud to help them build this program and let them know how much we value their hard work.”

http://www.jpmorganchase.com/corporate/Home/article/ny-13.htm

Dylan
10-01-2011, 10:43 PM
Greece in NYC.


This Wall Street 'Days of Rage' protest was dreamed up by a neo-Luddite anarchist group in Canada called Adbusters and funded by George Soros' Open Society Institute. Go to www.adbusters.org

Live Streaming: http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution


By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 10/1/11 9:08 PM EDT

NEW YORK — Some 700 anti-Wall Street protesters were reportedly arrested after they swarmed the Brooklyn Bridge and shut down a lane of traffic for several hours, police said Saturday.

Some demonstrators spilled onto the roadway Saturday night after being told to stay on the pedestrian pathway, police said. They face disorderly conduct and other charges. The lane has since reopened.


======

To anyone who is interested the protesters released their first official statement on Thursday.

This was unanimously voted on by all members of Occupy Wall Street last night, around 8pm, Sept 29. It is our first official document for release. We have three more underway, that will likely be released in the upcoming days: 1) A declaration of demands. 2) Principles of Solidarity 3) Documentation on how to form your own Direct Democracy Occupation Group.

This is a living document. you can receive an official press copy of the latest version by emailing c2anycga@gmail.com.

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one's skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless nonhuman animals, and actively hide these practices.

They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.

They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them.

They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit.

They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad.

They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

To the people of the world,

We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

Join us and make your voices heard!

*These grievances are not all-inclusive.

Also here is the Working list of goals: https://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/

HonestChieffan
10-01-2011, 10:46 PM
fun stuff

Dylan
10-01-2011, 10:48 PM
Just what NYC needed -- Class warfare.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-01-2011, 10:48 PM
fun stuff

Crazy times we live in. The Army and Marines protecting protesters from the Police, wow.

HonestChieffan
10-01-2011, 10:52 PM
wish I could find the ORilley segment from last night on this. Its a hoot.

Dylan
10-01-2011, 10:57 PM
2012 can't come fast enough!

Live Streaming. The protestor said, "New York City police are over policing."

Right! The Wall Street protesters blocked traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge. Traffic out of Manhattan was completely stopped, which is against the law.

Dylan
10-01-2011, 10:58 PM
wish I could find the ORilley segment from last night on this. Its a hoot.

I seen it last night ... It was so funny!!!

KILLER_CLOWN
10-01-2011, 11:03 PM
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Dylan
10-01-2011, 11:18 PM
Occupywallstreet protesters block Brooklyn Bridge

http://s3.amazonaws.com/storyful/production/stories/1000008876/large.jpeg?1317502396

http://storyful.s3.amazonaws.com/production/ci_images/1860106/412552126-large.jpeg

Thousands of protesters brought traffic to a halt on New York’s
Brooklyn Bridge on Saturday afternoon, as they took their gripes
with government away from the commercial heart to one of the
city’s main arteries. Police began arresting people as the situation
grew from a small gathering to a car-stopping mass.

Dylan
10-01-2011, 11:47 PM
Excerpts: Wall St. protesters shut down Brooklyn Bridge

By KEVIN SHEEHAN and REBECCA HARSHBARGER

OCTOBER 2, 2001. About 100 cars were left stranded as the loud, angry crowd covered the crossing from end to end in an inflamed day of demonstrations against high unemployment, bank bailouts and financial pain for the masses.

One irate driver, a Ground Zero construction worker, blasted the pedestrians.

"About halfway across the bridge, a bunch of people took the road," said Occupy Wall Street protester Yaeir Heber, 22. "It was planned, at some point, to stop traffic and they did it midway and then when they did that cops started arresting people."

Eventually police hauled away hundreds of protestors, who were allegedly a menace to drivers, into custody.

They cleared cars from the bridge, making room for paddy wagons and at least four MTA buses, loading protesters, their wrists bound with plastic zip ties, aboard.

Demonstrators lit up Twitter, slamming the NYPD for allegedly arresting young teens and cramming people into vans "with no air."

Occupy Wall Street urged people to give them information about officers who were making arrests.

"To anyone who has seen officer badges, pics, etc. We name and shame," the group tweeted.

The chaotic day of rainy protests ended with police finally clearing the crossing around 6 p.m. As buses full of those in custody rolled off the bridge, the crowd chanted: "Let them go!"

Embattled Congressman Charlie Rangel tried to lend his support but was chased away by a heckler.

Rangel had begun an informal speech to the crowd when a man started taunting him, and then coming towards him, witnesses said.

City Councilman Charles Barron (D-Brooklyn) was standing nearby as the incident unfolded.

“Charlie was saying how they need to have more people down here to support this. That’s why he was there,” Barron told The Post. “This heckler came out of the crowd and went after him.” Charlie the Thief ... LMAO

As Rangel, who was unhurt, backed away from the pushy protestor the crowd came to his rescue, swamping the heckler and chanting in response: “Everyone has the right to speak.”

A Rangel spokeswoman denied that the congressman was chased away.

“He knows people are frustrated and hurting badly from the financial meltdown,” spokeswoman Hannah Kim told The Post. “He is glad that he went.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/wall_st_protestors_shut_down_brooklyn_yEqcq6EsqgJ1cSy0rXhkzJ#ixzz1ZbEcPUwV

chiefzilla1501
10-02-2011, 01:22 AM
Yup. Always comical when a politician, let alone a crooked politician, actually tries to sell the idea that they're more ethical than Wall Street. The people are hurting, Charlie. Maybe you should have paid your taxes and used it for the public good, instead of feathering your own nest.

I don't know why people are so hell bent on choosing sides. Wall Street and politicians are both corrupt, yet political parties have brainwashed us into supporting one or the other, rather than saying we should hate them both.

What makes these protests comical is that it should be driven by hard-working blue collar workers who've fallen on bad times because executives are pocketing a ridiculously high share of dollars relative to the common worker. Instead, it seems to be a baseless protest from a bunch of young hipsters who know nothing about the way the real world works. Most of them probably come from money, because in most cases, it means you're probably ditching your job or at least the effort you could put into finding a job. Most unemployed people I know can't afford to waste time while they live another income-less day. Everyone has the right to protest. But until you work hard at a real job, pay taxes, and get screwed somehow, you shouldn't have the right to pretend you know what the **** you're talking about.


Excerpts: Wall St. protesters shut down Brooklyn Bridge

By KEVIN SHEEHAN and REBECCA HARSHBARGER

OCTOBER 2, 2001. About 100 cars were left stranded as the loud, angry crowd covered the crossing from end to end in an inflamed day of demonstrations against high unemployment, bank bailouts and financial pain for the masses.

One irate driver, a Ground Zero construction worker, blasted the pedestrians.

"About halfway across the bridge, a bunch of people took the road," said Occupy Wall Street protester Yaeir Heber, 22. "It was planned, at some point, to stop traffic and they did it midway and then when they did that cops started arresting people."

Eventually police hauled away hundreds of protestors, who were allegedly a menace to drivers, into custody.

They cleared cars from the bridge, making room for paddy wagons and at least four MTA buses, loading protesters, their wrists bound with plastic zip ties, aboard.

Demonstrators lit up Twitter, slamming the NYPD for allegedly arresting young teens and cramming people into vans "with no air."

Occupy Wall Street urged people to give them information about officers who were making arrests.

"To anyone who has seen officer badges, pics, etc. We name and shame," the group tweeted.

The chaotic day of rainy protests ended with police finally clearing the crossing around 6 p.m. As buses full of those in custody rolled off the bridge, the crowd chanted: "Let them go!"

Embattled Congressman Charlie Rangel tried to lend his support but was chased away by a heckler.

Rangel had begun an informal speech to the crowd when a man started taunting him, and then coming towards him, witnesses said.

City Councilman Charles Barron (D-Brooklyn) was standing nearby as the incident unfolded.

“Charlie was saying how they need to have more people down here to support this. That’s why he was there,” Barron told The Post. “This heckler came out of the crowd and went after him.” Charlie the Thief ... LMAO

As Rangel, who was unhurt, backed away from the pushy protestor the crowd came to his rescue, swamping the heckler and chanting in response: “Everyone has the right to speak.”

A Rangel spokeswoman denied that the congressman was chased away.

“He knows people are frustrated and hurting badly from the financial meltdown,” spokeswoman Hannah Kim told The Post. “He is glad that he went.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/wall_st_protestors_shut_down_brooklyn_yEqcq6EsqgJ1cSy0rXhkzJ#ixzz1ZbEcPUwV

KILLER_CLOWN
10-02-2011, 09:07 AM
Yup. Always comical when a politician, let alone a crooked politician, actually tries to sell the idea that they're more ethical than Wall Street. The people are hurting, Charlie. Maybe you should have paid your taxes and used it for the public good, instead of feathering your own nest.

I don't know why people are so hell bent on choosing sides. Wall Street and politicians are both corrupt, yet political parties have brainwashed us into supporting one or the other, rather than saying we should hate them both.

What makes these protests comical is that it should be driven by hard-working blue collar workers who've fallen on bad times because executives are pocketing a ridiculously high share of dollars relative to the common worker. Instead, it seems to be a baseless protest from a bunch of young hipsters who know nothing about the way the real world works. Most of them probably come from money, because in most cases, it means you're probably ditching your job or at least the effort you could put into finding a job. Most unemployed people I know can't afford to waste time while they live another income-less day. Everyone has the right to protest. But until you work hard at a real job, pay taxes, and get screwed somehow, you shouldn't have the right to pretend you know what the **** you're talking about.

Nicely put.

suzzer99
10-02-2011, 11:08 AM
Here's their demands:

http://coupmedia.org/occupywallstreet/occupy-wall-street-official-demands-2009

1. CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 ("RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT" http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1489 ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act --- Wiki entry summary: The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act in 1999 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between investment banking which issued securities and commercial banks which accepted deposits. The deregulation also removed conflict of interest prohibitions between investment bankers serving as officers of commercial banks. Most economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble with their depositors' money that was held in commercial banks owned or created by the investment firms. Here's detail on repeal in 1999 and how it happened: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act#Repeal . Vote Here

2. USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis in the following notable cases: (insert list of the most clear cut criminal actions). There is a pretty broad consensus that there is a clear group of people who got away with millions / billions illegally and haven't been brought to justice. Boy would this be long overdue and cathartic for millions of Americans. It would also be a shot across the bow for the financial industry. If you watch the solidly researched and awared winning documentary film "Inside Job" that was narrated by Matt Damon (pretty brave Matt!) and do other research, it wouldn't take long to develop the list. Vote Here

3. CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION which essentially said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections. The result is that corporations can pretty much buy elections. Corporations should be highly limited in ability to contribute to political campaigns no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media. This legislation should also RE-ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES IN THE U.S. SO THAT POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME FOR FREE AT REASONABLE INTERVALS IN DAILY PROGRAMMING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON. The same should extend to other media. Vote Here

4. CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE. No more GE paying zero or negative taxes. Pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation so the rich pay their fair share. (If we have a really had a good negotiating position and have the place surrounded, we could actually dial up taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher...back to what they once were in the 50's and 60's. Vote Here

5. CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION and staff it at all levels with proven professionals who get the job done protecting the integrity of the marketplace so citizens and investors are both protected. This agency needs a large staff and needs to be well-funded. It's currently has a joke of a budget and is run by Wall St. insiders who often leave for high ticket cushy jobs with the corporations they were just regulating. Hmmm.

6. CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS. Vote Here

7. CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED. So, you don't get to work at the FDA for five years playing softball with Pfizer and then go to work for Pfizer making $195,000 a year. While they're at it, Congress should pass specific and effective laws to enforce strict judicial standards of conduct in matters concerning conflicts of interest. So long as judges are culled from the ranks of corporate attorneys the 1% will retain control. Vote Here

8. ELIMINATE "PERSONHOOD" LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS. The film "The Corporation" has a great section on how corporations won "personhood status". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SuUzmqBewg . Fast-forward to 2:20. It'll blow your mind. The 14th amendment was supposed to give equal rights to African Americans. It said you "can't deprive a person of life, liberty or property without due process of law". Corporation lawyers wanted corporations to have more power so they basically said "corporations are people." Amazingly, between 1890 and 1910 there were 307 cases brought before the court under the 14th amendment. 288 of these brought by corporations and only 19 by African Americans. 600,000 people were killed to get rights for people and then judges applied those rights to capital and property while stripping them from people. It's time to set this straight. Vote Here

Geez what a bunch of granola-eating loopy-heads. Clearly the status quo is working fine and no changes are necessary - as the Wall St. and banking lobbyists are currently working hard with our congress to ensure.

HonestChieffan
10-02-2011, 07:19 PM
Dickheads. Just like the same smarmy assholes I saw on Campus in the 70s. Deadbeats.

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Organize dudes. Power to the people

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This must have some meaning.....
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Jerry Rubin...you are not.

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This will get their attention!!!

http://i52.tinypic.com/21mhibr.png


Meanwhile, your German Counterparts are at Oktoberfest. What looks better? Some unwashed skank living off dads money or...

http://i54.tinypic.com/2m34gfr.png

KILLER_CLOWN
10-02-2011, 10:26 PM
One Million Protesters to Occupy Wall Street

Alexander Higgins, who has been keeping us abreast with developments relating to the Wall Street protests says it’s Game On, as union leadership is now getting heavily involved in Occupy Wall Street:

The plot thickens as more unions pledge support to the Occupy Wall Street movement and a collective group with 1 million members expected to march against the machine.

As I previously reported unions are coming out in full force to support the Occupy Wall Street protests. We received news that the 200,000 member strong Transportation Workers Union would be joining the protests. The Teamster’s union endorsed the protests. Rumors of Verizon workers joining the protests. A scathing endorsement was issued by the Industrial Workers Union has also endorsed the Occupy Wall Street protests. Then news that several more unions had committed to or were contemplating joining the protests, while two the unions scheduled solidarity marches.

Now TPM reports even more unions are joining up to protest against Wall Street and the movement is set to grow rapidly.

The article also comes along with the news that a collective of 8 groups, with over 1 million members will be joining the Occupy Wall Street movement to show solidarity and march against the machine.



The other eight organizations expected to join in the October 5 rally, based on its Facebook page, are United NY, Strong Economy for All Coalition, Working Families Party, VOCAL-NY, Community Voices Heard, Alliance for Quality Education, New York Communities for Change, Coalition for the Homeless, which have a collective membership of over 1 million.

Source: Alexander Higgins

There will undoubtedly be an interesting mix of individuals on the ground in New York on October 5th. Third party libertarian types have never mixed very well with unions, but perhaps Americans will be able to unite behind a single cause rather than be manipulated into conflict by mainstream talking pieces at the behest of political operatives. We’re not holding our breath, but this is a good start.

As we suggested in American Powder Keg: New Black Panther Chairman Declares “The Hour of War Is At Hand” much of America is disgusted in the direction we’re headed, evidenced by the 81% of Americans who say they are not satisfied with the governance of the country. We’re all in this together:

The majority of America is not happy and they’ve lost hope, because regardless of what group you identify with, what color you are or what way you lean politically, you’re losing jobs, falling behind on essential bills, having difficulty putting food on the table and are constantly being accosted by government on all levels.

The challenge is not so much getting people motivated – because you can be assured that as this crisis deepens, millions will have no choice but to head to the streets for the reasons outlined above. The problem we face is that we are dealing with politicians and business leaders who have no other motive than power and money, and they will do anything and everything necessary in order to deflect blame. Thus, they’ll need a scapegoat(s), as we suggested previously:

When the riots start – and they will – the core motivators for individuals who hit the streets will be similar. Where the difference will arise is who each person or group will blame. Those elites in the upper echelons of our command and control apparatus thrive on hate, confusion and panic, and they will use our own ignorance against us.

When we discuss the coming civil disobedience and unrest in America, we may find ourselves visualizing protests where the people join together to oust a tyrannical government. Be forewarned. This is not the most likely outcome – at least not at the outset. With so many different ideologies in this country, every one of us interprets the problems and directs blame a different way. These differences will be used against us; they’ll be used to turn us against each other.

As has been the case throughout history, and most certainly in recent protests and riots around the world, the powers that be will likely utilize agent Provocateurs to wreck havoc in an attempt to discredit the message of the people. Because of the differing backgrounds and world views at any given rally (especially one like Occupy Wall Street), it wouldn’t take much to create conflicts and clashes. Many of those who will be out in force on October 5th and at the many coming assemblies, rallies, and riots that we’ll see in America’s future will be myrmidons taking orders from their respective political, union or organization leaders. Thus, these engagements will not come without risk. There is always the danger that people will be misguided, misinformed, and misdirected, eventually turning on themselves.

It’s great that Americans are taking to the streets to effect real change. One million people is a big number, despite the media feigning ignorance to the fact the Wall Street protests are even happening. This is how it starts. It is our hope that the people carry through with the original intent of the movement and focus their energy on the problem – unregulated greed and corruption on Wall Street and within the halls of Congress – rather than each other.

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/one-million-protesters-to-occupy-wall-street_09302011

KILLER_CLOWN
10-03-2011, 01:17 AM
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WOW, just WOW the ignorance here is just astounding.

Bewbies
10-03-2011, 01:33 AM
I watched 6 minutes of that video and lost more than 1/2 my IQ.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-03-2011, 01:41 AM
I watched 6 minutes of that video and lost more than 1/2 my IQ.

You just can't teach stupid, it's a natural gift. My brain hurt as well after watching that.

Oh and if you only watched 6 minutes, you missed the best parts.

mlyonsd
10-03-2011, 07:30 AM
On Imus today they had a few audio clips from protesters being interviewed.

One guy said "They're trying to change our DNA".

Made me chuckle.

suzzer99
10-03-2011, 02:03 PM
Shocking that Imus would cherry-pick the loopy ones. On Colbert they showed the ones that were making a lot of sense.

HonestChieffan
10-03-2011, 07:11 PM
It only gets better. These are Obama and Kotter and Orange and Banyons people. No doubt. Power to the people!

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/PicDay.jpg

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Wall-Street-Protest1.jpg

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

HonestChieffan
10-03-2011, 07:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/qxqBu.jpg

KILLER_CLOWN
10-03-2011, 08:18 PM
It only gets better. These are Obama and Kotter and Orange and Banyons people. No doubt. Power to the people!

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/PicDay.jpg

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Wall-Street-Protest1.jpg

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

OK except for the 20/hr min wage yowzaz.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Meh

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Eh?

Demand four: Free college education.

Nope

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Never going to happen

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Ok

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.

meh

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

not needed

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

No Way

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Agreed

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Agreed with the Derivatives, and i'll take my mortgage paid in full. :)

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Why?

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

Unions=same corruption as corporate.


ok.

banyon
10-03-2011, 08:23 PM
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.


Agree (mostly) with 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 10.

Probably don't agree with the methodology for #1.

BucEyedPea
10-03-2011, 08:34 PM
I don't think college should necessitate debt servitude either. But it's the govt gravy train that has driven those costs up too.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-03-2011, 10:03 PM
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BucEyedPea
10-03-2011, 10:19 PM
My old stomping grounds. I used to pass that building. Nice seeing it again. Thanks for the nostalgia KC!
Lots of colleges there. They sound like they're from Cambridge though.

Bernanke sure was a bad appointment. To think a Republican president appointed him too.

FishingRod
10-05-2011, 11:43 AM
Agree (mostly) with 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 10.

Probably don't agree with the methodology for #1.

What Unicorn is going to Shat the monies for all of this and care for the hundreds of thousands of people it would unemploy?

vailpass
10-05-2011, 12:05 PM
Agree (mostly) with 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 10.

Probably don't agree with the methodology for #1.

Free college and health care for everyone? By "agree with this" do you mean you wish it could happen but know it is unrealistic or do you mean you have a plan to pay for it?

blaise
10-05-2011, 12:07 PM
Free college education? What?

vailpass
10-05-2011, 12:10 PM
Free college education? What?

Demand #4 in the nut-bag manifesto listed above.

About as realistic and desirable as this gem: "Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market..."

Or this beauty; 'One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants."

And "raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr."

Because all the greedy fat cats have to do is wave the magic wand and this stuff can happen !!111!!!

blaise
10-05-2011, 12:20 PM
Ok, raise the minumum wage to $20 and then milk will be $6 a gallon, McDonalds hamburgers will be $2.50 and a bunch of house cleaning services will fire 75% of their employees. Tada!

Iowanian
10-05-2011, 01:00 PM
What a horde of douchebags.


art school, psychology classes for a decade and they wonder why they're broke.


It should be harder to get into college and you should have to pay for it, so you'll appreciate it. Maybe the answer is requiring that everyone perform manual labor for 1-2yrs prior to attending college so they understand the alternative if they fail. They're obviously not learning life skills, reason or critical thinking either.

Whaaaaaaaaaah.

blaise
10-05-2011, 01:22 PM
Maybe they want free college so they can get more patchouli stinking unemployed whiners to sit out there with them.

Inspector
10-05-2011, 01:38 PM
Oh great, now they want to ban gravity.

Kids these days........

CoMoChief
10-05-2011, 04:40 PM
Free college and health care for everyone? By "agree with this" do you mean you wish it could happen but know it is unrealistic or do you mean you have a plan to pay for it?

There's only one way to pay for it.....raising taxes.

That's the problem with most dumbfuck liberals.....they think money grows on trees and they live in fantasy land where everyone is taken care of by someone else at no cost to them.

Iowanian
10-05-2011, 06:19 PM
I don't really see any people saying "I work a full time job" who are protesting.....interesting.

Imagine that...college liberals with their heads up their arses about real life.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-06-2011, 08:13 AM
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loochy
10-06-2011, 08:26 AM
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Not violent enough...beat those fools

KILLER_CLOWN
10-06-2011, 09:12 AM
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Otter
10-06-2011, 09:24 AM
Free college education? What?

Just a general observation that I have with no real research done to provide numbers but...

If our country took fractions of the money they provide to outside countries, spent on war, defense and government waste they would able to provide college tuition to every man, woman and child in the US from anywhere from free at a much lower cost. This is one of the few areas I agree with them on. A country with the wealth of the USA should contribute much, much more into educating ITS OWN citizens before giving hand outs to other countries if for no other reason than to keep an advantage over other developing countries.

I know not everyone is cut out to be an engineer or scientist but if you proven you can jump through the hoops of an education system and retain knowledge how about 2 years of tech school so you can hit the ground running as an auto mechanic, heavy machine operator, electrician etc.

One of the biggest and dumbest mistakes our country made and it's probably too late as the well is dry.

I have to check this thread out after work, thought it died.

Frazod
10-06-2011, 09:26 AM
I saw a few of them picketing outside the Chicago Board of Trade this morning.

vailpass
10-06-2011, 09:29 AM
Just a general observation that I have with no real research done to provide numbers but...

If our country took fractions of the money they provide to outside countries, spent on war, defense and government waste they would able to provide college tuition to every man, woman and child in the US from anywhere from free at a much lower cost. This is one of the few areas I agree with them on. A country with the wealth of the USA should contribute much, much more into educating ITS OWN citizens before giving hand outs to other countries if for no other reason than to keep an advantage over other developing countries.

I know not everyone is cut out to be an engineer or scientist but if you proven you can jump through the hoops of an education system and retain knowledge how about 2 years of tech school so you can hit the ground running as an auto mechanic, heavy machine operator, electrician etc.

One of the biggest and dumbest mistakes our country made and it's probably too late as the well is dry.

I have to check this thread out after work, thought it died.

Can't argue with what you say here. A wealthy nation should be judged on how it educates it's young and how it takes care of it's elderly IMHO.

But IMHO an issue I see in the free tuition thinking (not you specifically) is the assumption that the free product would be the same product it is now. Free Harvard would be Harvard, Free MIT would be the same MIT, etc. and this just could not be the case.

If the govt. were paying for college there would be standardizations and regulations that forced the college to alter it's product accordingly. Maybe a government tuition program and a separate "premium" program for those who could pay privately.

Otter
10-06-2011, 09:35 AM
Can't argue with what you say here. A wealthy nation should be judged on how it educates it's young and how it takes care of it's elderly IMHO.

But IMHO an issue I see in the free tuition thinking (not you specifically) is that the free product would be the same product it is now. Harvard would be Harvard, MIT would be the same MIT, etc. and this just could not be the case.

If the govt. were paying for college there would be standardizations and regulations that forced the college to alter it's product accordingly. Maybe a government tuition program and a separate "premium" program for those who could pay privately.

I certainly wouldn't want to mess with the admissions criteria and water down the whole thing into public schools part two. Would have to be setup on a system similar to scholarships. Definitely don't remove the competition factor for higher and better education. Is unfortunately what a liberal would try to do.

vailpass
10-06-2011, 10:51 AM
I certainly wouldn't want to mess with the admissions criteria and water down the whole thing into public schools part two. Would have to be setup on a system similar to scholarships. Definitely don't remove the competition factor for higher and better education. Is unfortunately what a liberal would try to do.

Yes, the competition and selectivity on all levels, not just elite, is what I would be worried about.
Great idea on going with the scholarship system though the libs would find a way to **** that up too.
"Gee, why are there no white people in this year's scholarship award pool?"
"Oh, we decided they had an unfair advantage so we gave non-whites a different test."

Mr. Kotter
10-06-2011, 11:01 AM
"Tin foil hats"....for 100, Alex!

Radar Chief
10-06-2011, 11:14 AM
I don't really see any people saying "I work a full time job" who are protesting.....interesting.

Imagine that...college liberals with their heads up their arses about real life.

I heard on the news earlier that they’re going into places like McDonalds using the bathroom and ordering drinks/food in between rants about the evils of corporations.

vailpass
10-06-2011, 11:27 AM
I heard on the news earlier that they’re going into places like McDonalds using the bathroom and ordering drinks/food in between rants about the evils of corporations.

:D

Otter
10-06-2011, 11:44 AM
Yes, the competition and selectivity on all levels, not just elite, is what I would be worried about.
Great idea on going with the scholarship system though the libs would find a way to **** that up too.
"Gee, why are there no white people in this year's scholarship award pool?"
"Oh, we decided they had an unfair advantage so we gave non-whites a different test."

Yep.

[LIBERAL_RAGE]"Little Tommy over there throwing rocks at cars and sticking his finger up his ass and putting it in mouth with the 1.0 GPA has just as much right to go to MIT with OUR dollars as Marsha who developed a error correction efficiency routine robot for the science fair, 4.0 GPA, and national awards in math and science!!! You racist, Nazi, genocidal white supremest, conservative pigs!!!"[LIBERAL_RAGE]

I wish we could divide the country in half and start the fuck over. They could even have California so we don't have to move so many.

HonestChieffan
10-06-2011, 02:42 PM
I saw a few of them picketing outside the Chicago Board of Trade this morning.


They hate big pork bellies

HonestChieffan
10-06-2011, 02:45 PM
What Unicorn is going to Shat the monies for all of this and care for the hundreds of thousands of people it would unemploy?

When the central planning group takes over we will all have milk and honey flowing our way

HonestChieffan
10-06-2011, 02:48 PM
Another loon...

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Screen-shot-2011-10-06-at-4.41.06-PM.png

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS_Hippie.jpg


These are the people Obama can best identify with

HonestChieffan
10-06-2011, 02:50 PM
Obama is gonna have his class war....


(Politico) — Several influential New York state lawmakers have received threatening mails saying it is “time to kill the wealthy” if they don’t renew the state’s tax surcharge on millionaires, according to reports.

“It’s time to tax the millionaires!” reads the email, according to WTEN in Albany. “If you don’t, I’m going to pay a visit with my carbine to one of those tech companies you are so proud of and shoot every spoiled Ivy League [expletive] I can find.”

State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver and State Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos reportedly received the email, as did State Assembly Majority Leader Ron Canestrari. The governor’s office did not tell the New York Daily News whether the governor received the email.

The email, with the threatening subject line of, “time to kill the wealthy,” was detailed and disturbing.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65307.html#ixzz1a1WEf8vx

blaise
10-06-2011, 02:52 PM
Obama is gonna have his class war....


(Politico) — Several influential New York state lawmakers have received threatening mails saying it is “time to kill the wealthy” if they don’t renew the state’s tax surcharge on millionaires, according to reports.

“It’s time to tax the millionaires!” reads the email, according to WTEN in Albany. “If you don’t, I’m going to pay a visit with my carbine to one of those tech companies you are so proud of and shoot every spoiled Ivy League [expletive] I can find.”

State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver and State Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos reportedly received the email, as did State Assembly Majority Leader Ron Canestrari. The governor’s office did not tell the New York Daily News whether the governor received the email.

The email, with the threatening subject line of, “time to kill the wealthy,” was detailed and disturbing.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65307.html#ixzz1a1WEf8vx

I'm sure all the people fretting over the Tea Party will be rushing to condemn these people.

HonestChieffan
10-06-2011, 02:56 PM
I'm sure all the people fretting over the Tea Party will be rushing to condemn these people.


How can you condemn them. They have nothing else to do, they are going nowhere, when the weather cools off they go away. In the 70s you never saw the protestors and hippies on campus after a good hard freeze. Sorta like ticks.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-07-2011, 02:31 PM
VIDEO - Fox NY News Crew Beaten By Police While Covering Occupy Wall Street - #OWS

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Here's more footage of last night's NYPD melee near Wall Street. This clip provides a timeline and explains how the situation turned violent. Runs 90 seconds.

Source - Media Bistro

A WNYW-Fox news crew was maced and beaten by police on Wednesday night while covering the Occupy Wall Street protests.

Reporter Dick Brennan and photographer Roy Isen got caught in the middle of an altercation between police officers and a group of protesters, at the end of a day spent covering the ongoing demonstrations in lower Manhattan. Brennan was struck in the stomach with a baton and Isen was hit in the eyes with pepper spray.

“Since the arrests over the weekend, these demonstrations have been mostly peaceful. That’s until tonight,” Brennan reported. “And I can tell you because my photographer and I got caught in the middle of things when the pepper spray and the night sticks started flying.”

http://dailybail.com/home/video-fox-ny-news-crew-beaten-by-police-while-covering-occup.html

LMAO it's always funny until it happens to you.

teedubya
10-08-2011, 01:09 PM
Some of you idiots in this thread should go to the local police department and get your badges, since you want to "beat the idiots" and what not.

You'd make a good SS / Stormtrooper. They need people without a conscience to grow this military police state that is blooming.

BigChiefFan
10-08-2011, 01:46 PM
How can you condemn them. They have nothing else to do, they are going nowhere, when the weather cools off they go away. In the 70s you never saw the protestors and hippies on campus after a good hard freeze. Sorta like ticks.
How dare anyone, stand up for their beliefs. :rolleyes:

BucEyedPea
10-08-2011, 03:18 PM
VIDEO - Fox NY News Crew Beaten By Police While Covering Occupy Wall Street - #OWS

LMAO it's always funny until it happens to you.

ROFL ROFL

I heard some of the big financial houses made about $4 million in donations to the NYP.
They must be skeer'd.


Still living wage crap and other collectivist ideas are NOT the solution to any of our economic woes.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-08-2011, 05:51 PM
ROFL ROFL

I heard some of the big financial houses made about $4 million in donations to the NYP.
They must be skeer'd.


Still living wage crap and other collectivist ideas are NOT the solution to any of our economic woes.

Although the johnny-come-lately idiots are Soros backed, there are quite a few End the Fed'ers.

suzzer99
10-08-2011, 06:00 PM
Just STFU with this Soros nonsense. It's all a really lame lie and everyone knows it.

Bewbies
10-09-2011, 12:56 PM
Here's the folks that are protesting here in Atlanta. Totally normal folks, clearly.

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vailpass
10-09-2011, 01:48 PM
Some of you idiots in this thread should go to the local police department and get your badges, since you want to "beat the idiots" and what not.

You'd make a good SS / Stormtrooper. They need people without a conscience to grow this military police state that is blooming.

I'd be happy to nazi stomp you.

Chiefshrink
10-09-2011, 03:20 PM
Just STFU with this Soros nonsense. It's all a really lame lie and everyone knows it.

You seriously need to get checked into the real world and know that Soros $$ is backing all these protests across the nation in the big metro cities and has been acknowledged even by the Marxist Media:rolleyes:

Brock
10-09-2011, 08:33 PM
You seriously need to get checked into the real world and know that Soros $$ is backing all these protests across the nation in the big metro cities and has been acknowledged even by the Marxist Media:rolleyes:

Link.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-09-2011, 09:30 PM
GOP Rep Peter King: "We Can’t Allow More Coverage Of Occupy Wall Street, Or They Will Win"

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Video - Congressman Peter King (R-NY) with Laura Ingraham - Oct. 7, 2011

Runs 1 minute. The establishment protectors of corporate America and the Wall Street Kleptocracy are growing scared.

* “It’s really important for us not to give any legitimacy to these people in the streets,” said King on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Friday evening. “I remember what happened in the 1960s when the left-wing took to the streets and somehow the media glorified them and it ended up shaping policy. We can’t allow that to happen.”

http://dailybail.com/home/gop-rep-peter-king-we-cant-allow-more-coverage-of-occupy-wal.html

KILLER_CLOWN
10-09-2011, 09:42 PM
American Spectator Editor Admits to Being Agent Provocateur at D.C. Museum

FireDogLake
By Charlie Grapski
October 9, 2011

The following photograph taken by opednews.com shows a confrontation in the lobby of the National Air and Space Museum between two individuals and an officer shortly before video shows officers with the Museum’s security forces rush outside indiscriminately pepper-spraying numerous individuals.

http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy178/cgrapski/Howley-possible.jpg

It appears that one of the two in the confrontation with the security officer is Patrick Howley, Assistant Editor of The American Spectator. [See the following photograph in which Howley's Facebook Profile Photo is side-by-side with the person pictured at the Air and Space Museum]

http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy178/cgrapski/Howley-Side-By.jpg

Immediately after the incident began hitting the newswires Howley published a “Breaking News” story with The American Spectator online in which he reveals that he had consciously infiltrated the group on Friday with the intent to discredit the movement.

He states that “as far as anyone knew I was part of this cause — a cause that I had infiltrated the day before in order to mock and undermine in the pages of The American Spectator — and I wasn’t giving up before I had my story.”

According to Howley’s story he joined the group in its march toward the Air and Space Museum but the protesters on the march were unwilling to be confrontational.

He states “they lack the nerve to confront authority. From estimates within the protest, only ten people were pepper-sprayed, and as far as I could tell I was the only one who got inside.”

He claims that upon arrival at the Museum the group of approximately one hundred protesters split into two factions with the smaller of the two “rushing the doors,” the majority “staying behind.”

Howley then admits in his piece that he snuck past the guard at the first entrance in order to “infiltrate” the building and then confronted another guard. He then “sprinted toward the door” at which time he was first hit with pepper-spray.

http://my.firedoglake.com/cgrapski/2011/10/09/american-standard-editor-admits-to-being-agent-provacateur-at-d-c-museum/

patteeu
10-10-2011, 07:19 AM
Every day of rage needs it's protest anthem.

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durtyrute
10-10-2011, 07:42 AM
I'm sure this has been said already, but doesn't it seem a little odd that at first there were all of these protests over seas and now they are happening here out of nowhere. Didn't most of those protest end in violence or some sort of financial disaster? Is it possible that those same conclusions could happen over here? I guess it could be a coincidence that all of a sudden there are these completely unrelated uprisings all over the world at around the same time, yea that COULD happen.

patteeu
10-10-2011, 07:53 AM
I'm sure this has been said already, but doesn't it seem a little odd that at first there were all of these protests over seas and now they are happening here out of nowhere. Didn't most of those protest end in violence or some sort of financial disaster? Is it possible that those same conclusions could happen over here? I guess it could be a coincidence that all of a sudden there are these completely unrelated uprisings all over the world at around the same time, yea that COULD happen.

It's not coincidence at all. We're in a global economic slowdown.

But don't expect a revolution here because it's not going to happen.

loochy
10-10-2011, 08:10 AM
http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy178/cgrapski/Howley-Side-By.jpg



OMG it's Ryan from The Office

Dave Lane
10-10-2011, 08:30 AM
As much as I hate to say it this makes the left look bad. It's almost as horrible looking and stupid at the tea party people. I think it's a net wash except the TPs are disgustingly ugly and old.

Each side has a couple of points that are valid. I have more agreement with wanting reforms to limit abuses by wall street, to keep them from running us into the ditch again but really neither side would I trust with any power.

NewChief
10-10-2011, 09:08 AM
Our local "occupy" group was at the park yesterday while we were throwing a birthday party for my youngest. It was basically a drum circle with a bunch of college hippies rolling their own cigarettes and hanging out hula-hooping and such. Looked, more or less, like a scene from a Grateful Dead show back in the early 90s, except their were only about 20 of them.

We were having a super hero themed party, though, where all the kids dressed as super heroes, so it was pretty entertaining to see the two groups mixing and all of our little superheroes dancing to the dreadlocked drummer's music.

blaise
10-10-2011, 09:27 AM
I hope some other countries can out together a Live Aid to fund some of our 99% that don't have unlimited texting.

mlyonsd
10-10-2011, 09:55 AM
As much as I hate to say it this makes the left look bad. It's almost as horrible looking and stupid at the tea party people. I think it's a net wash except the TPs are disgustingly ugly and old.If we could only get a picture of Palin shitting in some homeless guy's shopping cart the circle would be complete.

Iowanian
10-10-2011, 10:39 AM
I wouldn't blame someone for going Bozo Bowling by driving a truck through one of those dumbass gatherings.

BucEyedPea
10-10-2011, 12:01 PM
Didn't most of those protest end in violence or some sort of financial disaster? Is it possible that those same conclusions could happen over here?
Some sources are predicting a major financial meltdown here—worse than 2008. Some said in 2008 that in about 4 years expect it to be worse.
Some suggest getting your money out of the bank.

Soon to follow...the end of American Empire! :D

Calcountry
10-10-2011, 12:25 PM
I wouldn't blame someone for going Bozo Bowling by driving a truck through one of those dumbass gatherings.Soon as the chips and dips run out, they will be gone. That or the first snow flies.

durtyrute
10-10-2011, 12:37 PM
Some sources are predicting a major financial meltdown here—worse than 2008. Some said in 2008 that in about 4 years expect it to be worse.
Some suggest getting your money out of the bank.

Soon to follow...the end of American Empire! :D

Yea, I've heard those same predictions. Fun times!!

NewChief
10-11-2011, 08:20 PM
One of our frat houses, which just happened to be next to a Bank of America being protested, decided to unfurl this banner to taunt the protesters. Of course, they're complete dumbasses if they actually think they're the 1%, but it's still funny.

Dylan
10-12-2011, 12:06 AM
Interesting:

I am an EU citizen and reside in Germany. Very happily I might add. Some 30 years ago, people here in Europe envied the US. The land of the American dream. Made in the USA stood for quality products.

Funny, following the reporting on the Occupy Wall Street protests I have been trying to find a product actually made in the US. Take cars. A number of popular GM and Ford models are built in Mexico and South Korea. What’s more, Ford is the fifth largest automaker in Europe.

Meanwhile, Chrysler is assembled in Canada and Mexico, with parts content shipped from overseas.

I am the CEO of Electronic HVAC controls. We specialize in technologically advanced products. We manufacture our products here in Germany. Our work force knows that we would never outsource our production to China and other world countries. We make better products. Our labour force are among the most effective and productive workers in the world. And our government support the position of less government.
October 10, 2011 at 7:49 pm

World Development Indicators Visualization: Exports as percent of GDP
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gnp_pcap_pp_cd&hl=en&dl=en#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=ne_exp_gnfs_zs&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:CHN:USA:DEU:JPN:AUS:FRA:IND:ISR:KWT:MEX:RUS:SAU:SWE:CHE:GBR&ifdim=country&tdim=true&hl=en&dl=en

Iconic
10-12-2011, 12:33 AM
Guys a question. Is that 'List of demands' that has been circulating around the internet actually legitimate? God I hope not. I have been extremely busy and haven't kept up with much of the protest but honestly...

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment($20/per hour).

:facepalm: ... any attempt to push these kinds of ideas through congress would be dead upon arrival and some of them are just outright trivial like the one above.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-12-2011, 09:56 PM
SHOCK RESULT - Fox News Poll On Occupy Wall Street - 70% Say They Agree With Protesters

Here's a screenshot of the current poll results:

http://dailybail.com/storage/bat-758.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1318438630460

http://dailybail.com/home/shock-result-fox-news-poll-on-occupy-wall-street-70-say-they.html

Bewbies
10-13-2011, 12:00 AM
SHOCK RESULT - Fox News Poll On Occupy Wall Street - 70% Say They Agree With Protesters

Here's a screenshot of the current poll results:

http://dailybail.com/storage/bat-758.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1318438630460

http://dailybail.com/home/shock-result-fox-news-poll-on-occupy-wall-street-70-say-they.html

I see the Ron Paul folks have rigged another poll.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-13-2011, 12:24 AM
I see the Ron Paul folks have rigged another poll.

Riiiiiiiighhhhhhhht.

Dylan
10-13-2011, 08:57 PM
This is one clean-up that is about to get messy.



NYPD to Evict "Occupy" Protesters

Wall Street protesters vow to stay put

New York (CNN) -- Protesters will resist any efforts to remove them from the Lower Manhattan park where they have been camped for nearly a month, despite Mayor Michael Bloomberg's order that they vacate the park at 7 a.m. Friday so it can be cleaned, an organizer said Thursday.

"Come tomorrow morning, we will passively resist and make it as difficult a process to remove us as possible," said Occupy Wall Street spokesman Tyler Combelic. "It's not an occupation if you can't occupy the park."

His words appeared to be backed up by the sentiment of the crowd of more than 1,000 protesters who filled Zuccotti Park Thursday night. "All day! All week! Occupy Wall Street!" they chanted.

Combelic called the mayor's announcement a "not-so-veiled attempt" to force protesters from the park, setting up a possible confrontation with authorities.

Protesters descended on the privately owned park near the New York Stock Exchange on September 17 to protest the nation's ailing economy.

"You want to clean up something? Clean up these crooks on Wall Street," said City Council Member Charles Barron.

Daniel Mintz of MoveOn.Org said he was planning to deliver to Bloomberg more than 350,000 petitions and signatures he received Thursday from supporters around the nation. "The mayor would do a lot better cleaning up Wall Street than cleaning up the plaza," he said.

"The park is clean," said Letitia James, a councilwoman from Brooklyn. "The issue of cleanliness is a ruse, a disguise and nothing more than an excuse to end OWS." Some protesters could be seen sweeping up debris. Others said they have used donated funds to clean the park.

A number of unions have pledged to support demonstrations cropping up in cities nationwide.

Maida Rosenstein, president of UAW local 2110, said members of her chapter planned to gather at the park at 7 a.m., when the cleaning is scheduled to begin.

"If the mayor thinks he's going to evict these protesters and end these protests, he needs to know that New Yorkers are watching," Rosenstein said. "The unions are going to be there tomorrow and are also watching."

Bloomberg met Wednesday with protesters and told them that the decision to clean the park was made after owners voiced concerns about "unsanitary conditions and considerable wear and tear on the park."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/10/13/us.occupy.wall.street/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

suzzer99
10-13-2011, 09:06 PM
Odds the "cleaning" will result in permanent eviction = 100%. The protesters should leave the park on their own volition by 7am just to show Bloomberg as a lying asshole. If they resist it gives him an excuse to not let them back in.

Dylan
10-13-2011, 09:14 PM
They'll scatter when they get wet with the splash from the highly powerful pressure washers. Water is counterrevolutionary.


http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/ows-notice.jpg

No Sleeping Bags, Tents Just Part Of New Plan Set Forth By Mayor Bloomberg
NEW YORK

(CBSNewYork) – It could be the beginning of the end of the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstration. On Thursday, Brookfield Office Management employees were passing out notices to protesters, who have been camped out for 26 days

Brookfield Properties, which owns the downtown Manhattan park that has become the home base of the Occupy Wall Street protests, announced on Thursday that it wants all protesters off its property starting at 7 a.m. Friday so it can tidy up the park grounds. It said the demonstrators can come back after the cleaning—as long as they abide by park rules. Those rules prohibit tents, tarps, sleeping bags, and the storage of any personal property. That would effectively end the demonstration, in which activists have camped out in Zuccotti Park for the past three-and-a-half weeks to protest wealth inequality.

“They might as well as just said ‘You’re done,’” one protester told CBS 2′s Ann Mercogliano.

“This is an eviction notice,” said another.

In response to the new regulations, Occupy Wall Street called for supporters to come to Zuccotti Park at 6 a.m. on Friday to “defend the occupation from eviction.” In a statement on their website, the group also encouraged supporters to call 311 and demand that the mayor “support our right to assemble and to not interfere with #OWS.”

That statement also went on to say that if Mayor Michael Bloomberg really cared about sanitation at the park, “he should support the installation of portopans and dumpsters.”

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/13/mayor-michael-bloomberg-says-zuccotti-park-will-be-cleaned-up-friday/

Dylan
10-13-2011, 10:57 PM
Odds the "cleaning" will result in permanent eviction = 100%. The protesters should leave the park on their own volition by 7am just to show Bloomberg as a lying asshole. If they resist it gives him an excuse to not let them back in.

22 years ago in Berlin, East Germans tired of Communist tyranny, tore down the Berlin Wall that kept them from Democracy, capitalism and life prosperity.

According to the Occupy Wall Street website, "the effort was inspired by the lasting demonstrations of our brothers and sisters in Egypt, Greece, Spain, and Iceland."

Indeed, there is no mention of the profoundly dangerous upheavals against female protesters and their families sleeping out in Tahrir Square. Conspicuously absent from their narrative, as events continue to unfold in the region is potential for a long civil war.

American philosopher George Santayana said: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"


EMERGENCY CALL TO ACTION: http://occupywallst.org/

Edit: Weather in NYC: It is pouring rain!

KILLER_CLOWN
10-13-2011, 11:11 PM
22 years ago in Berlin, East Germans tired of Communist tyranny, tore down the Berlin Wall that kept them from Democracy, capitalism and life prosperity.

According to the Occupy Wall Street website, "the effort was inspired by the lasting demonstrations of our brothers and sisters in Egypt, Greece, Spain, and Iceland."

Indeed, there is no mention of the profoundly dangerous upheavals against female protesters and their families sleeping out in Tahrir Square. Conspicuously absent from their narrative, as events continue to unfold in the region the revolution is on the brink of a long civil war.

American philosopher George Santayana said: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"


EMERGENCY CALL TO ACTION: http://occupywallst.org/

Edit: Weather in NYC: It is pouring rain!

What can you say? Communism and Fascism are teh suck, both seem to have the people up in arms.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-13-2011, 11:16 PM
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KILLER_CLOWN
10-14-2011, 10:38 AM
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/vet.jpg

vailpass
10-14-2011, 10:41 AM
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/vet.jpg

Get a job.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-14-2011, 10:42 AM
Get a job.

Methinks that is his job, although instead of defending democracy he would be wise to defend the Republic from all enemies foreign and domestic.

patteeu
10-14-2011, 10:45 AM
Get a job.

LMAO

evenfall
10-14-2011, 11:13 AM
(Demand three, living wage income ($20/hour) "regardless of employment")

:facepalm: ... any attempt to push these kinds of ideas through congress would be dead upon arrival and some of them are just outright trivial like the one above.

Haha. Regardless of employment? Well these idiots don't seem to realize that $20 times 0 hours worked = zero dollars. But they aren't out there sleeping in pee and crap cause they are smart...

So anyway, if this were true, why would anyone work at all?

BucEyedPea
10-14-2011, 11:16 AM
I see the Ron Paul folks have rigged another poll.

We have no ability to "rig" polls. Showing up to vote is not rigging.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-14-2011, 11:38 AM
Haha. Regardless of employment? Well these idiots don't seem to realize that $20 times 0 hours worked = zero dollars. But they aren't out there sleeping in pee and crap cause they are smart...

So anyway, if this were true, why would anyone work at all?

If they can't find jobs i guess they figure they might as well protest and a $20/hr min wage would lead to 10 dollar hamburgers per example as the cost of everything would increase dramatically.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-14-2011, 11:40 AM
We have no ability to "rig" polls. Showing up to vote is not rigging.

I know right, Ron Paul wins with 200k votes and the poll was rigged, Ron Paul has 0% with 54 votes and that one is obviously correct. LMAO

KILLER_CLOWN
10-14-2011, 11:42 AM
NYC protesters take park cleanup on themselves
APBy KAREN MATTHEWS - Associated Press | AP – 7 hrs ago

NEW YORK (AP) — Wall Street protesters scrubbed, mopped and picked up garbage at the corporate-owned park they have been occupying in an attempt to stave off a scheduled cleanup Friday that demonstrators suspect is a pretext to evict them.

The monthlong Occupy Wall Street protest has spawned similar gatherings across the U.S. and the world. But the owners of the half-acre (0.2 hectare) Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan, their patience worn thin, want the demonstrators to clear out and stop pitching tents or using sleeping bags.

Organizers were mixed on how they would respond when police arrive to help remove the occupiers from the public plaza so it can be cleaned. Some said they would resist; others planned to cooperate but engage in nonviolent civil disobedience if they are not allowed back in the park.

Publicly-traded real estate firm Brookfield Office Properties planned to begin a section-by-section power-washing at 7 a.m. EDT (1100 GMT). The company called the conditions at the park unsanitary and unsafe.

Han Shan, 39, of New York, a spokesman for Occupy Wall Street, said it was clear to everyone that the plan is to shut down the protest.

"There is a strong commitment to nonviolence, but I know people are going to vigorously resist eviction," he said. "I think we're going to see a huge number of supporters throughout New York and the surrounding area defend this thing ... I'm hoping that cooler heads will prevail, but I'm not holding my breath."

The demand that protesters clear out sets up a turning point in a movement that began Sept. 17 with a small group of activists and has swelled to include several thousand people at times, from many walks of life.

Occupy Wall Street has inspired similar demonstrations across America, is spreading to Canada and Britain, and become an issue in the Republican presidential primary race.

The protesters' demands are amorphous, but they are united in blaming Wall Street and corporate interests for the economic pain they say all but the wealthiest Americans have endured since the financial meltdown.

Some 600 to 700 protesters gathered in early morning darkness Friday. Many had not slept and were busy cleaning while a light rain fell. The group's sanitation team had hired a private garbage truck to pick up discarded curbside garbage. Dozens of people, including a man in a Santa Claus suit, tossed out trash and used thick brooms and water from buckets to sweep the concrete.

Police kept a low profile — a couple of officers walked through the encampment while others sat in vans Thursday evening but did not stay overnight.

Protesters would be allowed to return after the Brookfield cleanup, which was expected to take 12 hours, but the company said it plans to start enforcing regulations that have been ignored.

No more tarps, no more sleeping bags, no more storing personal property on the ground. In other words, no more camping out for the Occupy Wall Street protesters, who have been living at the lower Manhattan park for weeks. The park is privately owned but is required to be open to the public 24 hours per day.

A spokesman for Mayor Michael Bloomberg, whose girlfriend is a member of Brookfield's board of directors, said Brookfield has requested the city's assistance in maintaining the park.

"We will continue to defend and guarantee their free speech rights, but those rights do not include the ability to infringe on the rights of others," Bloomberg spokesman Marc La Vorgna said, "which is why the rules governing the park will be enforced."

Protesters say the only way they will leave is by force. Organizers sent out a mass email asking supporters to "defend the occupation from eviction."

"We are doubling up on our determination to stay here as a result of this," said 26-year-old Sophie Mascia, a Queens resident who has been living in Zuccotti Park for three weeks and intends to sleep there Friday night. "I think this is only going to strengthen our movement."

Protesters have had some run-ins with police, but mass arrests on the Brooklyn Bridge and an incident in which some protesters were pepper-sprayed by police seemed to energize their movement.

The New York Police Department says it will make arrests if Brookfield requests it and laws are broken. Brookfield would not comment on how it will ensure that protesters do not try to set up camp again, only saying that the cleaning was necessary because conditions in the park had become unsanitary due to the occupation.

Bill de Blasio, the city's public advocate, expressed concern over the city's actions as he inspected the park Thursday afternoon and listened to protesters' complaints.

"This has been a very peaceful movement by the people," he said. "I'm concerned about this new set of policies. At the very least, the city should slow down."

Attorneys from the New York City chapter of the National Lawyers Guild — who are representing an Occupy Wall Street sanitation working group — have written a letter to Brookfield saying the company's request to get police to help implement its cleanup plan threatens "fundamental constitutional rights."

"There is no basis in the law for your request for police intervention, nor have you cited any," the attorneys wrote in a letter Thursday to Brookfield CEO Richard B. Clark. "Such police action without a prior court order would be unconstitutional and unlawful."

The attorneys said the sanitation working group has "committed itself to carrying out a thorough and complete cleaning" and to negotiate with the park's owner in good faith.

The protest has led sympathetic groups in other cities to stage their own local rallies and demonstrations: Occupy Boston, Occupy Cincinnati, Occupy Houston, Occupy Los Angeles, Occupy Philadelphia, Occupy Providence, Occupy Salt Lake and Occupy Seattle, among them.

More protests are planned in Toronto and Vancouver this weekend, and European activists also are also joining in. Organizers announced a protesters' "occupation" of the London Stock Exchange to begin there on Saturday.

The movement has also drawn reaction from world leaders, including President Barack Obama, former Polish President Lech Walesa and Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Walesa said Thursday that he supports the New York protest and is planning to either visit or write a letter to the protesters. He said the global economic crisis has made people aware that "we need to change the capitalist system" because we need "more justice, more people's interests, and less money for money's sake."

Khamenei said Wednesday that the wave of protests reflects a serious problem that will ultimately topple capitalism in America. He claimed the United States is in a full-blown crisis because its "corrupt foundation has been exposed to the American people."

___

Larry Neumeister, Tom McElroy, Cara Anna, Deepti Hajela, Colleen Long, Cristian Salazar, Verena Dobnik, and Meghan Barr contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-protesters-park-cleanup-themselves-055007914.html

BucEyedPea
10-14-2011, 11:55 AM
I know right, Ron Paul wins with 200k votes and the poll was rigged, Ron Paul has 0% with 54 votes and that one is obviously correct. LMAO

bewbies has some psychological issues about Paul Supporters. If only he could feel as enthusiastic about any of the other candidates. It's just jealousy....only he doesn't know it because it's subconscious jealousy. He takes out on Paul supporters with both direct and passive hostility.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-14-2011, 11:40 PM
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Betcha he feels like a big man hitting women and all.

Saul Good
10-16-2011, 03:24 PM
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BucEyedPea
10-16-2011, 03:54 PM
If there was no text on the video, I would never have been able to make that out. It's a good thing they can't even communicate.

banyon
10-16-2011, 03:56 PM
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Betcha he feels like a big man hitting women and all.

That's a dude, unless she has a goatee. (Check the "side view" vid in related videos)

BigChiefFan
10-16-2011, 04:55 PM
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Punkers are anti-establishment. That's nothing new. That said, I think they are the exception, not the rule of those protesting.

Just for the record, God Bless America, land that I love.

suzzer99
10-17-2011, 09:05 AM
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5067/tumblrlt7qybohvs1qlear2.jpg

Iowanian
10-17-2011, 10:10 AM
When is the national day of protesters getting their ass kicked by working Americans who are tired of these assholes making them late for work?

KILLER_CLOWN
10-17-2011, 12:36 PM
When is the national day of protesters getting their ass kicked by working Americans who are tired of these assholes making them late for work?

They're at the end of the protest line for getting fired, might as well join in.

suzzer99
10-17-2011, 01:49 PM
Lol I just noticed "Cut Taxes, not Defense" in the sign I posted. Gotta love the cognitive dissonance of the teabaggers.

Otter
10-17-2011, 01:58 PM
Lol I just noticed "Cut Taxes, not Defense" in the sign I posted. Gotta love the cognitive dissonance of the teabaggers.

How do you know the person holding that sign belongs to the Tea Party movement? Is there a special hat, tattoo, or hand signal I missed out on?

blaise
10-17-2011, 01:59 PM
"Hey everyone! Look, Tea Partiers are crazy! Look! Look here!"

suzzer99
10-17-2011, 02:09 PM
How do you know the person holding that sign belongs to the Tea Party movement? Is there a special hat, tattoo, or hand signal I missed out on?

Who else is going to be protesting on a street corner with those signs? Come on.

vailpass
10-17-2011, 02:11 PM
Who else is going to be protesting on a street corner with those signs? Come on.

Non-tea party members who don't want to see tax increases or cuts to the defense budget? :shrug:

Otter
10-17-2011, 02:12 PM
Who else is going to be protesting on a street corner with those signs? Come on.

Can't argue with that logic. Carry on.

suzzer99
10-17-2011, 02:13 PM
Whatever 99% chance that's a tea party thing and you know it. Even if it's not it's the exact same internal logic in the signs, so it's not like it matters.

Here's a bunch of fun tea party signs, including the one I posted: http://madmansparadise.blogspot.com/2009/04/protests-trolling-irl.html Enjoy!

blaise
10-17-2011, 02:14 PM
Some libs don't know what to do. They spent so many months crying about Tea Party protests, and making fun of them. and now they're not sure how to react to these.
Maybe they just plan to keep talking Tea Party stuff.

patteeu
10-17-2011, 03:09 PM
Lol I just noticed "Cut Taxes, not Defense" in the sign I posted. Gotta love the cognitive dissonance of the teabaggers.

What's that got to do with cognitive dissonance? Our current tax revenues are more than enough to cover our Defense expenditures.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-18-2011, 02:32 PM
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The Young Turks' Cenk Uygur stopped in Lower Manhattan on Monday to report from the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protests on what was officially it's one-month anniversary. Uygur tells RT that even though the mainstream media and most of America have acknowledged the demonstrations, President Barack Obama has yet to. With protesters angry at how the establishment is treating 99 percent of America, Uygur says it is no surprise that Obama isn't representing the bulk of the country. After all, he says, Obama is the establishment.

Iowanian
10-18-2011, 03:10 PM
I don't think most of these dumbasses even know why they are protesting.


Corporations are evil. Corporations should pay us more money. stop buying stuff from corporations so they won't have any money.

Fools.

vailpass
10-18-2011, 03:20 PM
I don't think most of these dumbasses even know why they are protesting.


Corporations are evil. Corporations should pay us more money. stop buying stuff from corporations so they won't have any money.

Fools.

While their more industrious youth counterparts are grabbing opportunities and making money that they too could have made had they taken a shave and hit the bricks.

suzzer99
10-18-2011, 11:38 PM
Looks like Wall St. loves Mittens: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contriball.php?cycle=2012

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6006/campaigndonors.jpg

patteu vague and/or snarky deflection in 3...2...1...

suzzer99
10-18-2011, 11:44 PM
Ah, he must be off-duty, er sleeping.

blaise
10-19-2011, 04:45 AM
Deflect what, that employees at those places think he's the best candidate?

OH NO! Employees at Morgan Stanley donated $300,000!

NewChief
10-19-2011, 05:30 AM
I don't think most of these dumbasses even know why they are protesting.


Corporations are evil. Corporations should pay us more money. stop buying stuff from corporations so they won't have any money.

Fools.

Heh. Just sayin...

And I don't even necessarily support the protests, but the scornful message of "they don't even know what they're protesting" is clearly a talking point for the opposition. They're ALINSKYIZING #OWS. Oh the horror!

blaise
10-19-2011, 05:40 AM
Heh. Just sayin...

And I don't even necessarily support the protests, but the scornful message of "they don't even know what they're protesting" is clearly a talking point for the opposition. They're ALINSKYIZING #OWS. Oh the horror!

Well, I think their vague message at the beginning sort of fed into that. Saying, "Down with banks" etc just made it seem like they didn't really know what they wanted. Walking around in front of a bank saying "Down with greed" is kind of pointless.

Iowanian
10-19-2011, 06:16 AM
I've read the threads here, I've seen the news reports and I've watched videos of interviews with protesters and I can't tell you what their wish would be as a group. I can't tell you exactly what they're angry about and what they require to stop acting like a horde of unwashed douchebags.

So you're mad at wall street, you're mad at people who make money and you're upset that your entry level job isn't paying $60,000? Ok.

You hate corporations, you're calling to boycott their products to bring them down, but you use their products and want them to pay $20/hr min wage. Ok.

I challenge any sympathizer on this board to link me a video of an interview that actually explains the movement and what they're actually pissed about.

I personally think most of them are doing it to be a part of some big hooplah because they think it's 'in'. Most of them are morAns.

patteeu
10-19-2011, 06:41 AM
Looks like Wall St. loves Mittens: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contriball.php?cycle=2012



patteu vague and/or snarky deflection in 3...2...1...

Why wouldn't they? Is it a bad thing if some of the most successful businesspeople in the country think you're the guy to turn our economy around?

patteeu
10-19-2011, 06:42 AM
Deflect what, that employees at those places think he's the best candidate?

OH NO! Employees at Morgan Stanley donated $300,000!

I see that I could have slept in and relied on the common sense of others like blaise.

blaise
10-19-2011, 06:55 AM
I see that I could have slept in and relied on the common sense of others like blaise.

If the report had shown they donated more to Obama he would have posted, "See! Wall Street thinks Obama will turn the economy around!"

patteeu
10-19-2011, 06:59 AM
If the report had shown they donated more to Obama he would have posted, "See! Wall Street thinks Obama will turn the economy around!"

No doubt.

mlyonsd
10-19-2011, 07:06 AM
Looks like Wall St. loves Mittens: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contriball.php?cycle=2012

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6006/campaigndonors.jpg

patteu vague and/or snarky deflection in 3...2...1...In 2008 Wall Street accounted for 20% of Obama's total campaign take. He took more money from them than any president in the last 20 years.

Hope and change.

NewChief
10-19-2011, 07:14 AM
In 2008 Wall Street accounted for 20% of Obama's total campaign take. He took more money from them than any president in the last 20 years.

Hope and change.

I admit that I'm not really paying that much attention to the #OWS movement, but I'd sincerely hope that a large part of their complaint is this administration's ties with the Wall Street which they occupy. I know there's been some effort by the Dem establishment to co-opt the movement and bend them to their ends, but I'm not sure that it's been successful, yet.

What I'd love to see is a coalition between #OWS and the Tea Party to throw all the entrenched bums out. Unfortunately, the energy of both movements will likely get rolled into status quo campaigning where both "sides" turn against each other and end up just supporting one of the two parties.

blaise
10-19-2011, 07:17 AM
I admit that I'm not really paying that much attention to the #OWS movement, but I'd sincerely hope that a large part of their complaint is this administration's ties with the Wall Street which they occupy. I know there's been some effort by the Dem establishment to co-opt the movement and bend them to their ends, but I'm not sure that it's been successful, yet.

What I'd love to see is a coalition between #OWS and the Tea Party to throw all the entrenched bums out. Unfortunately, the energy of both movements will likely get rolled into status quo campaigning where both "sides" turn against each other and end up just supporting one of the two parties.

Yes, the Tea Partiers are mostly going to vote Republican and OWS Democrat. Drudge will post negativity toward OWS and HuffPost will make fun of the Tea Party and nothing will change.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-19-2011, 07:18 AM
Yes, the Tea Partiers are mostly going to vote Republican and OWS Democrat. Drudge will post negativity toward OWS and HuffPost will make fun of the Tea Party and nothing will change.

A lot of people will see through that, but probably not the majority unfortunately.

mlyonsd
10-19-2011, 07:31 AM
I admit that I'm not really paying that much attention to the #OWS movement, but I'd sincerely hope that a large part of their complaint is this administration's ties with the Wall Street which they occupy. I know there's been some effort by the Dem establishment to co-opt the movement and bend them to their ends, but I'm not sure that it's been successful, yet.

What I'd love to see is a coalition between #OWS and the Tea Party to throw all the entrenched bums out. Unfortunately, the energy of both movements will likely get rolled into status quo campaigning where both "sides" turn against each other and end up just supporting one of the two parties.Yup.

HonestChieffan
10-19-2011, 08:05 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Jews.jpg

Another Obot protester/deadbeat/moonbat

NewChief
10-19-2011, 08:10 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Jews.jpg

Another Obot protester/deadbeat/moonbat

Yeah. I'm sure he's a big Obama supporter. :rolleyes:

He does remind me of that one wacko poster we had here for a while. What was his name?

patteeu
10-19-2011, 08:12 AM
Yeah. I'm sure he's a big Obama supporter. :rolleyes:

He does remind me of that one wacko poster we had here for a while. What was his name?

TFG / Ladairus

dirk digler
10-19-2011, 08:25 AM
Deflect what, that employees at those places think he's the best candidate?

OH NO! Employees at Morgan Stanley donated $300,000!

They aren't giving money to candidates because they believe they are the best candidate they are giving money to candidates who will do what Wall St. tells them to do.

dirk digler
10-19-2011, 08:27 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Jews.jpg

Another Obot protester/deadbeat/moonbat
http://motherjones.com/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/photoessays/teapartyniggar2.jpg
(http://motherjones.com/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/photoessays/teaparty****ar2.jpg)

HonestChieffan
10-19-2011, 08:27 AM
They aren't giving money to candidates because they believe they are the best candidate they are giving money to candidates who will do what Wall St. tells them to do.

They give to both sides so they always have skin in the game with the winner

patteeu
10-19-2011, 08:32 AM
They aren't giving money to candidates because they believe they are the best candidate they are giving money to candidates who will do what Wall St. tells them to do.

LOL

Iowanian
10-19-2011, 08:33 AM
tdubya says I'm not an American and am a Nazi.


For those statements, tdubya can sodomize himself with a 10 year old rest area toilet brush.

blaise
10-19-2011, 08:46 AM
They aren't giving money to candidates because they believe they are the best candidate they are giving money to candidates who will do what Wall St. tells them to do.

Obama raised like 70MM last month. You think some Morgan Stanley employees donating 300,000 is going to put someone in their back pocket?

dirk digler
10-19-2011, 08:54 AM
They give to both sides so they always have skin in the game with the winner

Obama raised like 70MM last month. You think some Morgan Stanley employees donating 300,000 is going to put someone in their back pocket?

Yes. Wall Street gave a shitload of money to Obama in 2008 and all he did was hire a Wall Street economic team that did nothing but kiss Wall Street's ass for 2+ years.

It is naive to think that their donations aren't tied to getting something in return.

blaise
10-19-2011, 09:01 AM
Yes. Wall Street gave a shitload of money to Obama in 2008 and all he did was hire a Wall Street economic team that did nothing but kiss Wall Street's ass for 2+ years.

It is naive to think that their donations aren't tied to getting something in return.

They're all getting donations from someone -so what I'm saying is I don't see what his huge point was that needed, "deflecting."

suzzer99
10-19-2011, 12:48 PM
In 2008 Wall Street accounted for 20% of Obama's total campaign take. He took more money from them than any president in the last 20 years.

Hope and change.

Yeah and now they aren't giving him squat and putting all their weight behind Mittens. So that's a good thing - it means Obama didn't cow to them as much as they wanted.

blaise
10-19-2011, 12:52 PM
Yeah and now they aren't giving him squat and putting all their weight behind Mittens. So that's a good thing - it means Obama didn't cow to them as much as they wanted.

Right, any way you can spin it.

banyon
10-19-2011, 12:58 PM
Yeah and now they aren't giving him squat and putting all their weight behind Mittens. So that's a good thing - it means Obama didn't cow to them as much as they wanted.

I don't know if that's the only logical conclusion.

I think it could be just as easily "Well, Obama's our corporate stooge, but Mitt is really a corporate stooge! He's going to eliminate cap gains, etc and worked at Bain Capital for pete's sake!".

Mitt isn't just friends with us (like Obama), he's ONE of us.


http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4e987cd86bb3f74575000007/mitt-romney-bain-capital.jpg
Despite the pressures at Bain Capital, Mitt Romney kept the atmosphere loose. One year, after posing for a photo for a firm brochure, the partners did another take, the second time holding $10 and $20 bills. From left, Fraser Bullock, Eric A. Kriss, Joshua Bekenstein, Mitt Romney, Coleman Andrews, Geoffrey S. Rehnert, and Robert F. White. (Provided by Bain Capital)

patteeu
10-19-2011, 01:08 PM
Yeah and now they aren't giving him squat and putting all their weight behind Mittens. So that's a good thing - it means Obama didn't cow to them as much as they wanted.

Yeah, it couldn't possibly be that they recognize that Obama's in over his head and that his policies are damaging rather than beneficial to the economy.

blaise
10-19-2011, 01:18 PM
Yeah, it couldn't possibly be that they recognize that Obama's in over his head and that his policies are damaging rather than beneficial to the economy.

Weird, he seems to be saying the donations from Obama didn't end up making him indebted to Wall Street. Huh. I guess his point about donations to Mitt don't mean anything either, then.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-19-2011, 02:29 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Jews.jpg

Another Obot protester/deadbeat/moonbat

He's a complete idiot and probably someone sent in to paint the others in a bad light. I would imagine he's probably being paid handsomely as well.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-19-2011, 02:36 PM
Ratigan Schools Barack-Loving Progressive: "Obama Works For Goldman Sachs & Wall Street, Get Over Your Nonsense That Democrats Are Any Better Than Republicans!"

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Video - Dylan Ratigan Deals In Political Truth - Sep. 20, 2011

Clip has not been posted before. This is another must see. Start watching precisely at the 4:30 mark - Runs 2 minutes from there.

* Ratigan nails the Republican and Democratic factions of the one-party Kleptocracy known as Wall Street. If you still believe in left-right puppet show, get to the nearest mirror and shout "KNAVE!" until the mythical recovery arrives.

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Fully transcribed below.

DYLAN: “The biggest contributor to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign is Goldman Sachs. The primary activities of this president relative to banking have been to protect the most lucrative aspect of that business, which is the dark market for credit default swaps and the like. That has been the explicit agenda of his Treasury Secretary. This president is advocating trade agreements that allow enhanced bank secrecy in Panama, enhanced murdering of union members in Colombia, and the refunding of North Korean slaves.”

DYLAN: “This president and Republicans are both in favor of those trade agreements. And this president renewed the Bush tax cuts for millionaires. Those are actions. Those are not words. This guy’s a great talker. Everybody loves to talk. This is a man who has taken action. Barack Obama has taken action. He has kept the swaps markets dark, no capital requirements for the—“

GUEST: “Let me react. I’m a progressive. I share a lot of the frustrations that my fellow progressives share. When I look at the alternative, I think, well, it sure beats the alternative. But I think you’re onto something in the following sense, Dylan. These things I’ve mentioned, just examples of things that the president can do, while on the edges, they still have an effect. All they do, I think, is illustrate that if we want to see action, okay, it may not be as good as a $500 billion jobs bill, but don’t stop, don’t stop, with asking Congress—“

DYLAN: “But I guess where I take issue is, this president is working for the bad guys. The Democrats are working for the bad guys. So are the Republicans. The Democrats get away with it by saying, ‘Look at how crazy the Republicans are; at the Democrats pretend to care about people.’ BUT THE FACT IS THE 2-PARTY POLITICAL SYSTEM IS UTTERLY BOGUS."

http://dailybail.com/home/ratigan-schools-barack-loving-progressive-obama-works-for-go.html

patteeu
10-19-2011, 02:43 PM
He's a complete idiot and probably someone sent in to paint the others in a bad light. I would imagine he's probably being paid handsomely as well.

Are you suggesting that he's a RonPaulian who has infiltrated the OWS protest?

bandwagonjumper
10-19-2011, 03:49 PM
The democrats and republicans may have their differences but the one thing there both agree is that whats good for Wall Street is good for America but honestly what can their do? If the US government tried to regulat Wall Street more severe than there would just move somewhere else like London. The same happens here in London. If the UK government threaten to go too far the City just says no or we move.

patteeu
10-19-2011, 04:14 PM
The democrats and republicans may have their differences but the one thing there both agree is that whats good for Wall Street is good for America but honestly what can their do? If the US government tried to regulat Wall Street more severe than there would just move somewhere else like London. The same happens here in London. If the UK government threaten to go too far the City just says no or we move.

Generally speaking, "what's good for wall street is good for America" is more true than "eat the rich and our lives will suddenly be filled with unicorn rides and rainbows".

suzzer99
10-19-2011, 04:31 PM
Right, any way you can spin it.

I'm not spinning shit. I'm just saying you can either bash Obama for taking contributions in 2008, or bash him for not being able to get any this time. To bash him for both is logically contradictory. Of course not like that ever stops anyone.

suzzer99
10-19-2011, 04:32 PM
He's a complete idiot and probably someone sent in to paint the others in a bad light. I would imagine he's probably being paid handsomely as well.

It's probably James O'Keefe or that editor of the Spectator.

suzzer99
10-19-2011, 04:33 PM
I don't know if that's the only logical conclusion.

I think it could be just as easily "Well, Obama's our corporate stooge, but Mitt is really a corporate stooge! He's going to eliminate cap gains, etc and worked at Bain Capital for pete's sake!".

Mitt isn't just friends with us (like Obama), he's ONE of us.


http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4e987cd86bb3f74575000007/mitt-romney-bain-capital.jpg
Despite the pressures at Bain Capital, Mitt Romney kept the atmosphere loose. One year, after posing for a photo for a firm brochure, the partners did another take, the second time holding $10 and $20 bills. From left, Fraser Bullock, Eric A. Kriss, Joshua Bekenstein, Mitt Romney, Coleman Andrews, Geoffrey S. Rehnert, and Robert F. White. (Provided by Bain Capital)

So whatever concessions Obama supposedly gave Wall St. Mitt will give twice as much. Got it.

BucEyedPea
10-19-2011, 04:55 PM
So whatever concessions Obama supposedly gave Wall St. Mitt will give twice as much. Got it.

There's no significant difference between the two parties. But Mitt was ugly back then compared to now.

patteeu
10-19-2011, 05:02 PM
I'm not spinning shit. I'm just saying you can either bash Obama for taking contributions in 2008, or bash him for not being able to get any this time. To bash him for both is logically contradictory. Of course not like that ever stops anyone.

I don't think you really understand the dynamic at work here. This isn't a case of people (like me) bashing Obama and now give Romney a pass. Those people (like me) are bashing the people (like you) who didn't bash Obama for taking the contributions but who are now bashing Romney for them.

blaise
10-19-2011, 09:01 PM
I'm not spinning shit. I'm just saying you can either bash Obama for taking contributions in 2008, or bash him for not being able to get any this time. To bash him for both is logically contradictory. Of course not like that ever stops anyone.

It seems you're the one here with a double standard. You brought up the contributions to Mitt as if it makes him indebted to Wall Street. So, is Obama indebted to Wall Street, too, or does it not affect his decisions?
Because if you're saying he hasn't acted like he's indebted to Wall Street I think we would all wonder what the hell your point was in the first place.

suzzer99
10-19-2011, 10:59 PM
I'm saying Wall St. seems to like Mittens a lot more than Obama. If you're gonna bash Obama for taking so many contributions in '08 than how does that make you feel about Mitt? Also if Wall St. has soured on Obama, what does that do to your assertions that he's in their hip pocket?

blaise
10-19-2011, 11:18 PM
I'm saying Wall St. seems to like Mittens a lot more than Obama. If you're gonna bash Obama for taking so many contributions in '08 than how does that make you feel about Mitt? Also if Wall St. has soured on Obama, what does that do to your assertions that he's in their hip pocket?

You brought the contributions up. Who, besides you, was bashing anyone for receiving Wall Street contributions? Who implied that receiving Wall Street donations was something that needed to be deflected, or that it was something sinister? You. Who said that Obama was in Wall Street's hip pocket?
You seem to be saying, in essence, that Obama was able to take Wall Street contributions without bending to their will, but Mitt doing it is something that needs to be, "deflected."
I guess we'll just keep deflecting that, well I don't know. What were we supposed to deflect again?

KILLER_CLOWN
10-19-2011, 11:53 PM
Jews celebrate Sukkot at 'Occupy Los Angeles' protest (VIDEO)

Local Jewish clergy and activists rallied in a sukkah - a temporary hut built for the seven day festival of Sukkot - amid other tarps and tents at the ongoing "Occupy Los Angeles" protest on Sunday.



The group said on its Facebook page, "There is no more important time than right now to be present, really present, in the streets of the United States to decry the injustice of those who are suffering under crushing debt, foreclosure, lack of healthcare; to decry the injustice that the one percent who brought the economy down are still in their offices 'earning' bonuses while the other ninety-nine percent of us are trying to figure out how to make it to the end of the month."

The "occupation" of Los Angeles began on October 1, when more than 750 people marched from Pershing Square to City Hall, chanting slogans such as, "Hey hey, ho ho! Wall Street greed has got to go" and "The people united will never be defeated." Raw Story

http://presstv.com/usdetail/205463.html

KILLER_CLOWN
10-20-2011, 12:14 AM
Girl sues cop for allegedly forcing her to work as prostitute

By MITCHEL MADDUX

Last Updated: 9:07 PM, October 11, 2011

Posted: 9:00 PM, October 11, 2011

A girl who says a corrupt NYPD detective put her on the street when she was a 13-year-old runaway and forced her to work as a prostitute has filed a $25 million law suit.

The suit accuses Wayne Taylor, a former city narcotics detective of pimping out the Brooklyn youngster and taking money from men who wanted to have sex with her.

The Brooklyn federal court lawsuit, which names the city, the NYPD and the officer, was filed by the girl, who is still a minor, and her mother. The Post is withholding their names.

The cop told the girl that she had been “sold” to him for $500, and then he forced her to dance naked at parties and service adult men in Jan. 2008, the suit says.

If she failed to follow his directives, Taylor and his girlfriend threatened to either beat or arrest the girl, the suit says.

The officer eventually pleaded guilty to attempted kidnaping and served 3 1/2 years before he was paroled in January.

The girl’s attorney, Robert Tolchin, said that the NYPD had been tipped to the fact that Taylor was involved in illegal activities, but nevertheless kept him on the streets.

“How do you keep this guy on the job with a shield and a gun and assigned to the narcotics bureau when he has an unresolved petition for for promoting prostitution?” the Brooklyn attorney said.

A spokeswoman for New York City’s law department said officials were waiting to see the suit..

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/girl_sues_corrupt_cop_for_allegedly_eMCgOIZ2lRAZZNHQaqL9nK#ixzz1bIex4iPQ

suzzer99
10-20-2011, 01:12 AM
You brought the contributions up. Who, besides you, was bashing anyone for receiving Wall Street contributions? Who implied that receiving Wall Street donations was something that needed to be deflected, or that it was something sinister? You. Who said that Obama was in Wall Street's hip pocket?
You seem to be saying, in essence, that Obama was able to take Wall Street contributions without bending to their will, but Mitt doing it is something that needs to be, "deflected."
I guess we'll just keep deflecting that, well I don't know. What were we supposed to deflect again?

I said Wall St. loves Mittens. I never said any of the crap you're putting in my mouth. Just wanted to post that. I also thought it was interesting that all Perry's companies were energy companies.

patteeu
10-20-2011, 08:27 AM
I said Wall St. loves Mittens. I never said any of the crap you're putting in my mouth. Just wanted to post that. I also thought it was interesting that all Perry's companies were energy companies.

Interesting in what way?

blaise
10-20-2011, 08:28 AM
I said Wall St. loves Mittens. I never said any of the crap you're putting in my mouth. Just wanted to post that. I also thought it was interesting that all Perry's companies were energy companies.

So, what needed deflecting?

KILLER_CLOWN
10-22-2011, 01:50 AM
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HonestChieffan
10-22-2011, 06:30 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Burqas.jpg

Students, who are members of the Basij militia, a part of the Iran Revolutionary Guard, attend a gathering in support of anti-Wall Street demonstrators in front of the U.S. interest section of the Swiss embassy in Tehran October 22, 2011. (REUTERS/Raheb Homavandi)

Mr. Kotter
10-22-2011, 06:53 PM
Opposite sides of the lunatic fringe:

teedubya vs. HCF.... heh. LMAO

patteeu
10-22-2011, 07:40 PM
Opposite sides of the lunatic fringe:

teedubya vs. HCF.... heh. LMAO

Kotter is drinking again.

Mr. Kotter
10-22-2011, 07:43 PM
Kotter is drinking again.

Your defense of an ideologue soul-mate douchebag....don't mean I'm indulging.

Besides, it's too early....the kiddies aren't in bed yet.

HonestChieffan
10-22-2011, 07:51 PM
Kotter is drinking again.

No, in his defense, I would not blame drugs or booze.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-25-2011, 07:34 AM
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suzzer99
10-26-2011, 01:58 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/26/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_backlash/?npt=NP1&hpt=hp_t2

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2522/frankdeckertop.jpg

Lol if I had just read the article while picturing what this guy looks like, I'm not sure he could look any more like the picture in my mind's eye.

Yeah Frank, that's what the entire protest is about - people who are too lazy to work wanting govt handouts. Be more intellectually dishonest.

HonestChieffan
10-26-2011, 02:53 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Oakland-Kill-Cops.jpg


Time to turn the dogs of hell on these slimeballs

go bowe
10-26-2011, 03:05 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Oakland-Kill-Cops.jpg


Time to turn the dogs of hell on these slimeballs

i don't know but isn't the number of protesters being exaggerated?

i see the videos and it looks like a few hundred protesters and eleventy billion cops...

HonestChieffan
10-26-2011, 03:40 PM
i don't know but isn't the number of protesters being exaggerated?

i see the videos and it looks like a few hundred protesters and eleventy billion cops...


I hear people are exaggerating the number of cops. One place some guy said there was eleventy billion. Thats more cops than there are in California

blaise
10-26-2011, 03:47 PM
It's funny if you read the Huff Post, they've been blogging daily trying to validate OWS. Then if you search, "tea party" it will come up with pages of entries about how racist or stupid the Tea Party is.

go bowe
10-26-2011, 04:08 PM
I hear people are exaggerating the number of cops. One place some guy said there was eleventy billion. Thats more cops than there are in California

ROFL

patteeu
10-26-2011, 04:39 PM
It's funny if you read the Huff Post, they've been blogging daily trying to validate OWS. Then if you search, "tea party" it will come up with pages of entries about how racist or stupid the Tea Party is.

You don't even have to read Huff Post to see that. Just follow @orange on twitter.

HonestChieffan
10-26-2011, 07:43 PM
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316466_2397929462608_1082152540_32705036_1392054334_n.jpg

KILLER_CLOWN
10-26-2011, 09:48 PM
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SMALL_slavevtaxpayer.jpg

Jenson71
10-26-2011, 10:18 PM
One of the quickest ways to discredit your own argument is to compare your modern-day problem with slavery.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-26-2011, 11:02 PM
One of the quickest ways to discredit your own argument is to compare your modern-day problem with slavery.

I'm so happy someone with authority is here to let me know that, what would i do without you?

Jenson71
10-26-2011, 11:06 PM
I'm so happy someone with authority is here to let me know that, what would i do without you?

No reason to act like that. I was just offering some advice.

suzzer99
10-28-2011, 12:40 PM
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/1116/30310823927747279602110.jpg

BigChiefFan
10-28-2011, 02:16 PM
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SMALL_slavevtaxpayer.jpg

Great depiction of what has been happening in this country for too long.

Jenson71
10-28-2011, 09:08 PM
Great depiction of what has been happening in this country for too long.

Except that you're not a slave.

BigChiefFan
10-28-2011, 09:32 PM
Except that you're not a slave.

Kid, I like you, so I'm not going to argue with you. I'll just say you seem like a bright individual, but you need some real world experience to see how things really are. You're applying too much ideology to the statement.

Ever heard the term "slave to the grind?" There's ALOT of TRUTH to it.
Are people shackled and beaten? No, not physically, but metaphorically, absolutely, YES.

I could get more philosophical on the issue, but I'd rather go get my drink on and smooth out a little after a long week.

Ponder what I said. If you still want to continue the discussion, I'll check back sometime over the weekend.

BigChiefFan
10-28-2011, 09:36 PM
Except that you're not a slave.Oh and one other thing, people in other countries are literally SLAVES and work for a bowl of rice a day. They have to put up nets on the outside of buildings to keep people from attempting to commit suicide, so just because I'm not shackled, doesn't mean that picture isn't an accurate depiction of the nature of how things are in the world.

Brock
10-28-2011, 09:37 PM
Kid, I like you, so I'm not going to argue with you. I'll just say you seem like a bright individual, but you need some real world experience to see how things really are. You're applying too much ideology to the statement.

Ever heard the term "slave to the grind?" There's ALOT of TRUTH to it.
Are people shackled and beaten? No, not physically, but metaphorically, absolutely, YES.

I could get more philosophical on the issue, but I'd rather go get my drink on and smooth out a little after a long week.

Ponder what I said. If you still want to continue the discussion, I'll check back sometime over the weekend.

ROFL Stupid fuck.