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dirk digler
09-19-2011, 02:14 PM
We're Chiefs fans so you know we will get screwed and we will end up winning 2-3 games and miss out on Luck so who are the next best college QB's that we can draft?

Ebolapox
09-19-2011, 02:16 PM
matt barkley, nick foles, landry jones. no particular order.

LiL stumppy
09-19-2011, 02:19 PM
I wouldn't mind Landry Jones ;)

Saul Good
09-19-2011, 02:20 PM
Puke

dirk digler
09-19-2011, 02:23 PM
matt barkley, nick foles, landry jones. no particular order.

which of those are better?

Pestilence
09-19-2011, 02:24 PM
1. Luck
2. Foles













3. Barkley/Jones

luv
09-19-2011, 02:25 PM
OR.....

If Pioli stands by Cassel, or hell, even Stanzi, and doesn't take a QB with the first pick, what other positions/players will be there?

jd1020
09-19-2011, 02:27 PM
OR.....

If Pioli stands by Cassel, or hell, even Stanzi, and doesn't take a QB with the first pick, what other positions/players will be there?

Justin Blackmon after Bowe is let go.

dirk digler
09-19-2011, 02:27 PM
OR.....

If Pioli stands by Cassel, or hell, even Stanzi, and doesn't take a QB with the first pick, what other positions/players will be there?

fuck that.. If that happens I will stop watching

BigCatDaddy
09-19-2011, 02:28 PM
If Newton keeps doing what he is doing you might see Griffin start to climb those rankings.

luv
09-19-2011, 02:30 PM
**** that.. If that happens I will stop watching

I hope it's wrong, but I'm preparing myself for not being prepared.

Chiefnj2
09-19-2011, 02:31 PM
*Andrew Luck, 6-4, 235, Stanford
*Matt Barkley, 6-2, 230, Southern California
Nick Foles, 6-5, 245, Arizona
*Landry Jones, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma
Kirk Cousins, 6-3, 205, Michigan State
Ryan Lindley, 6-4, 220, San Diego State
Brandon Weedon, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma State (Ag)
Ryan Tannehill, 6-4, 220, Texas A&M (WR)
G.J. Kinne, 6-2, 215, Tulsa
Chandler Harnish, 6-2,225, Northern Illinois (XK)
Case Keenum, 6-1, 210, Houston (XKa)
Kellen Moore, 6-0, 190, Boise State
Dominique Davis, 6-3, 225, East Carolina

dirk digler
09-19-2011, 02:31 PM
I hope it's wrong, but I'm preparing myself for not being prepared.

That is understandable. I am preparing myself for missing out on Luck

ChiefsCountry
09-19-2011, 02:31 PM
which of those are better?

Barkley then Jones and Foles.

Reerun_KC
09-19-2011, 02:32 PM
Luck
Moore/Foles
Barkley
Jones

Frosty
09-19-2011, 02:32 PM
OR.....

If Pioli stands by Cassel, or hell, even Stanzi, and doesn't take a QB with the first pick, what other positions/players will be there?

It doesn't matter because I won't be watching the Chiefs until Pioli (and maybe Clark Hunt) is gone if this happens.

Reerun_KC
09-19-2011, 02:33 PM
*Andrew Luck, 6-4, 235, Stanford
*Matt Barkley, 6-2, 230, Southern California
Nick Foles, 6-5, 245, Arizona
*Landry Jones, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma
Kirk Cousins, 6-3, 205, Michigan State
Ryan Lindley, 6-4, 220, San Diego State
Brandon Weedon, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma State (Ag)
Ryan Tannehill, 6-4, 220, Texas A&M (WR)
G.J. Kinne, 6-2, 215, Tulsa
Chandler Harnish, 6-2,225, Northern Illinois (XK)
Case Keenum, 6-1, 210, Houston (XKa)
Kellen Moore, 6-0, 190, Boise State
Dominique Davis, 6-3, 225, East Carolina

I like those four...

Chiefs Pantalones
09-19-2011, 02:33 PM
Luck or bust

Ebolapox
09-19-2011, 02:33 PM
seriously, kellen moore? I don't see it. I see ken dorsey when I see kellen moore.

jd1020
09-19-2011, 02:34 PM
seriously, kellen moore? I don't see it. I see ken dorsey when I see kellen moore.

BUT HES THE SAME SIZE AS BREESE WITH HALF THE ARM!!!!!!!!!!!!

arrowheadnation
09-19-2011, 02:34 PM
Well it's looking like we'll probably have to pick up a RB too (if Jamaal can't come back full force from this). Are there any good RB's for our 2nd rounder?

Molitoth
09-19-2011, 02:34 PM
Andrew Luck







Kellen Moore







Find a Free Agent

CaliforniaChief
09-19-2011, 02:35 PM
Truthfully, after Luck who is clearly the best and Foles, I don't think any of those other guys are any better than Dick Stanzi.

jd1020
09-19-2011, 02:35 PM
Well it's looking like we'll probably have to pick up a RB too (if Jamaal can't come back full force from this). Are there any good RB's for our 2nd rounder?

This team has too many holes to be looking for a RB before the 3rd day.

BigRichard
09-19-2011, 02:36 PM
We're Chiefs fans so you know we will get screwed and we will end up winning 2-3 games and miss out on Luck so who are the next best college QB's that we can draft?

As I said in another thread, it is just about impossible to go 0-16. Two wins can still get you the first pick.

Chiefnj2
09-19-2011, 02:36 PM
Just say no to USC QBs.

Pestilence
09-19-2011, 02:37 PM
Please God....no Kellen Moore.

And don't fucking compare him to Drew Brees.

dirk digler
09-19-2011, 02:37 PM
Barkley then Jones and Foles.

Thanks.

Sanka
09-19-2011, 02:37 PM
Jones is a joke, the next captain checkdown.

jd1020
09-19-2011, 02:38 PM
Jones is a joke, the next captain checkdown.

Jones has the arm to throw it anywhere. Its not his fault that OU follows the same offense as about 95% of college teams.

BigCatDaddy
09-19-2011, 02:39 PM
Well it's looking like we'll probably have to pick up a RB too (if Jamaal can't come back full force from this). Are there any good RB's for our 2nd rounder?

Lamichael James from Oregon might be a guy.

dirk digler
09-19-2011, 02:59 PM
As I said in another thread, it is just about impossible to go 0-16. Two wins can still get you the first pick.

We need Peyton to come back and Seattle to get lucky then. Hopefully Seattle will win their home opener this weekend.

Reerun_KC
09-19-2011, 03:01 PM
Please God....no Kellen Moore.

And don't ****ing compare him to Drew Brees.

Moore is just like Drew Brees....

:D

Reerun_KC
09-19-2011, 03:05 PM
Jones has the arm to throw it anywhere. Its not his fault that OU follows the same offense as about 95% of college teams.

Are you an OU fan?

Because I work with a STH and a couple of guys that are trustees. Most of them say no freaking way is Jones a 1st round QB, let alone franchise QB...

suds79
09-19-2011, 03:06 PM
This thread needs deleted immediately.

Eye on the prize. There's no 2nd place.

Bewbies
09-19-2011, 03:11 PM
1. Luck
2. Foles













3. Barkley/Jones

This.

If Foles played for a team that got regular tv coverage he'd be very, very popular around here.

Reerun_KC
09-19-2011, 03:13 PM
This.

If Foles played for a team that got regular tv coverage he'd be very, very popular around here.


Hes on TV almost every weekend...

jd1020
09-19-2011, 03:15 PM
Are you an OU fan?

Because I work with a STH and a couple of guys that are trustees. Most of them say no freaking way is Jones a 1st round QB, let alone franchise QB...

Captain misdirect.

I'm sure the McCluster of QB's is going to make a killing as a first round QB.

Detoxing
09-19-2011, 03:15 PM
Considering Chiefsplanet consistantly fails at evaluating Qb's, I'll go ahead and say I don't care which one they get, Luck, Foles or Jones as long as we get one.

Obviously Luck would be ideal, but c'mon, when have the Chiefs done anything right?

suzzer99
09-19-2011, 03:17 PM
We need Peyton to come back and Seattle to get lucky then. Hopefully Seattle will win their home opener this weekend.

They do have the new Arrowhead for loudness. That was always good for a few wins a year, even when we were terrible. Fortunately our current Arrowhead will provide no such boost. Maybe everyone should go and actively boo the Chiefs on every play just to make them give up quicker.

lcarus
09-19-2011, 03:19 PM
I love Charles and hope he makes a full recovery for us next season. But...runningbacks don't mean a god damn thing towards winning a Super Bowl. We need a ****ing quarterback and coach.

Reerun_KC
09-19-2011, 03:21 PM
Captain misdirect.

I'm sure the McCluster of QB's is going to make a killing as a first round QB.

Captian Misdirect?

WTH is that?


Just relaying what they were telling me... I dont care where Jones goes, just as long as its not in KC...

Dont know what else to tell you...

jd1020
09-19-2011, 03:22 PM
Captian Misdirect?

WTH is that?


Just relaying what they were telling me... I dont care where Jones goes, just as long as its not in KC...

Dont know what else to tell you...

So you are relaying information to me from people that matter not. Thanks.

Reerun_KC
09-19-2011, 03:22 PM
I love Charles and hope he makes a full recovery for us next season. But...runningbacks don't mean a god damn thing towards winning a Super Bowl. We need a ****ing quarterback and coach.

RB is the most expendable and quickest postition to replace in all of the NFL...

FTR, we are men, men do not get emotionally attached to other men...

Reerun_KC
09-19-2011, 03:23 PM
So you are relaying information to me from people that matter not. Thanks.

Uh Okay...

lcarus
09-19-2011, 03:32 PM
RB is the most expendable and quickest postition to replace in all of the NFL...

FTR, we are men, men do not get emotionally attached to other men...

I'm not emotionally attached to a god damn thing you inbred piece of shit. I just love Charles as a runningback. Ok you aren't an inbred piece of shit I was just kidding about that.

Reerun_KC
09-19-2011, 03:33 PM
I'm not emotionally attached to a god damn thing you inbred piece of shit. I just love Charles as a runningback. Ok you aren't an inbred piece of shit I was just kidding about that.


:eek:

I think you have had to much caffine....

lcarus
09-19-2011, 03:47 PM
:eek:

I think you have had to much caffine....

I'm constantly on the edge of insanity from caffeine.

luv
09-19-2011, 03:51 PM
I'm not emotionally attached to a god damn thing you inbred piece of shit. I just love Charles as a runningback. Ok you aren't an inbred piece of shit I was just kidding about that.

For some reason, this made me laugh.

TEX
09-19-2011, 03:52 PM
Todd Blackledge

Frankie
09-19-2011, 04:56 PM
1. Luck
2. Foles


3. Barkley/Jones

That's the way I see it too.

Justin Blackmon after Bowe is let go.Why would Bowe be let go?!

That is understandable. I am preparing myself for missing out on LuckExactly. I've said this before, it's almost as hard to get to the first pick position as it is to get to the Super Bowl.


*Andrew Luck, 6-4, 235, Stanford
Nick Foles, 6-5, 245, Arizona
Kirk Cousins, 6-3, 205, Michigan State
Kellen Moore, 6-0, 190, Boise State

I like those four...

Oh Please,.... No 6'0". 190 Lb QB!!

Frankie
09-19-2011, 04:57 PM
BUT HES THE SAME SIZE AS BREESE WITH HALF THE ARM!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK I'm sold. :D ;)

jd1020
09-19-2011, 04:58 PM
Why would Bowe be let go?!

We have his twin on the bench. I wouldnt Franchise Bowe based on one season.

Frankie
09-19-2011, 05:05 PM
We have his twin on the bench. I wouldnt Franchise Bowe based on one season.

He is looking good out there. We have developed him for another team IYO then?

Paperboy405
09-19-2011, 05:21 PM
Based on Chiefs history, Mike Kafka will be our quarterback after last night.

MIAdragon
09-19-2011, 05:32 PM
Todd Blackledge

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MIAdragon
09-19-2011, 05:35 PM
Why would Bowe be let go?!


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jd1020
09-19-2011, 05:44 PM
He is looking good out there. We have developed him for another team IYO then?

Hes a possession receiver.

If we extend him, great. If he goes into the offseason unsigned then bye. He's a UFA. **** franchise tagging him. Who pays a possession receiver top 5 money. Baldwin is basically a carbon copy. He's big, doesn't have speed for seperation, and I would argue better hands. Now, we have yet to see how he does after his thumb heals but he literally jumped up and grabbed anything in college.

Detoxing
09-19-2011, 05:45 PM
We have his twin on the bench. I wouldnt Franchise Bowe based on one season.

One season? You're kidding right?

His twin? Now I know you've got to be joking.

jd1020
09-19-2011, 05:47 PM
One season? You're kidding right?

His twin? Now I know you've got to be joking.

When was Bowe's other season?

Chiefnj2
09-19-2011, 06:21 PM
When was Bowe's other season?

Rookie year.

Chiefnj2
09-19-2011, 06:22 PM
We have his twin on the bench. I wouldnt Franchise Bowe based on one season.

Completely stupid. Has his twin caught an NFL pass yet?

Detoxing
09-19-2011, 06:24 PM
When was Bowe's other season?

Uhmmm....Every season but the '09 season....

Detoxing
09-19-2011, 06:27 PM
'07 - 70 Catches, 5 Td's
'08 - 86 Catches, 7 Td's

'09 - Yeah....we all know what happened there...

'10 - 72 Catches 15 Td's

You don't just release that kind of production and say that a rookie who has never even seen the field can just take his place. That's dumb.

ChiefsCountry
09-19-2011, 06:29 PM
Hes a possession receiver.

If we extend him, great. If he goes into the offseason unsigned then bye. He's a UFA. **** franchise tagging him. Who pays a possession receiver top 5 money. Baldwin is basically a carbon copy. He's big, doesn't have speed for seperation, and I would argue better hands. Now, we have yet to see how he does after his thumb heals but he literally jumped up and grabbed anything in college.

LMAO You are a dumbass.

crispystl420
09-19-2011, 06:38 PM
Dude, Bowe is a freaking solid WR. imagine what he could do if he had a real QB.

88TG88
09-19-2011, 06:54 PM
Based on Chiefs history, Mike Kafka will be our quarterback after last night.

:deevee: sounds about right

Chiefs Pantalones
09-19-2011, 07:06 PM
Luck is worth sucking this year and the years he is growing. Our chances of winning the Super Bowl in the future go up just because we finally got ourselves a franchise QB.

Bewbies
09-19-2011, 07:38 PM
If we get Luck DBowe will enter the discussion with Andre Johnson, Megatron, Roddy White etc. Getting rid of him would be beyond retarded.

RUSH
09-20-2011, 07:37 AM
Barkley is on a tier of his own after Luck. He was very good last season and has looked fantastic this year. Took his game to another level. Has everything you look for except great size but he's big enough.

Not a bad consolation prize at all and I would take him over any qb drafted last year. Probably the #2 pick and top 5 at worst. I hope the Chiefs take him if we miss out on Luck.

And anyone not willing to draft him just because he went to USC is a complete moron. You judge the player on the field, not the guys before him who he has nothing to do with. It's an incredibly dumb argument. Leinart busted. Shit happens...everyone knew his problems and shortcomings. Palmer was the man before his injuries. And Sanchez is a solid qb in the league. It doesn't even have a strong basis behind it if it was even a relevant argument (it's not) when judging Matt Barkley.

RUSH
09-20-2011, 08:06 AM
And I really dont get the Foles love. He plays in a gimmick spread offense with easy reads, he's a sitting duck back there with no pocket presence, he's inconsistent and he doesn't go through progressions. He panics if his first read isn't there. The last thing I want is another Cassel who locks on to his first read and is screwed if it isn't there.

Foles has great size and a good arm but struggling to see what others see. Huge project. Would like to hear reasons people like him.

And moore is not an NFL qb.

Chiefnj2
09-20-2011, 08:14 AM
Barkley is on a tier of his own after Luck. He was very good last season and has looked fantastic this year. Took his game to another level. Has everything you look for except great size but he's big enough.

Not a bad consolation prize at all and I would take him over any qb drafted last year. Probably the #2 pick and top 5 at worst. I hope the Chiefs take him if we miss out on Luck.

And anyone not willing to draft him just because he went to USC is a complete moron. You judge the player on the field, not the guys before him who he has nothing to do with. It's an incredibly dumb argument. Leinart busted. Shit happens...everyone knew his problems and shortcomings. Palmer was the man before his injuries. And Sanchez is a solid qb in the league. It doesn't even have a strong basis behind it if it was even a relevant argument (it's not) when judging Matt Barkley.

Has Barkley ever led USC to a victory over a ranked team?

Buckweath
09-20-2011, 08:25 AM
Bowe/Baldwin/Moeaki/maybe Breaston is easily good enough to win a SuperBowl with a top 10 QB even if Baldwin proves to be a bust.

King_Chief_Fan
09-20-2011, 08:26 AM
We're Chiefs fans so you know we will get screwed and we will end up winning 2-3 games and miss out on Luck so who are the next best college QB's that we can draft?

name a couple of teams that will win less games than the Chiefs

Buckweath
09-20-2011, 08:31 AM
name a couple of teams that will win less games than the Chiefs

If Cassell stays the same, none. If he regains last year form, the Chiefs could easily win a couple of games.

ChiefsCountry
09-20-2011, 08:35 AM
Has Barkley ever led USC to a victory over a ranked team?

He beat Ohio State his freshman year in Columbus.

suds79
09-20-2011, 08:38 AM
If Cassell stays the same, none. If he regains last year form, the Chiefs could easily win a couple of games.

You mean last year's form as in gets several opportunities to throw a bunch of play action TD passes from the 2 yard line?

One of the most deceiving statistical seasons ever.

RUSH
09-20-2011, 08:40 AM
Has Barkley ever led USC to a victory over a ranked team?

Ohio state, cal, and notre dame from his true freshman year.

Arizona last year.

Stanford and Oregon we're the only other ranked teams played last year and both were excellent so not surprising they lost.

Were you trying to make a point or just curious?

Chiefnj2
09-20-2011, 08:45 AM
Ohio state, cal, and notre dame from his true freshman year.

Arizona last year.

Stanford and Oregon we're the only other ranked teams played last year and both were excellent so not surprising they lost.

Were you trying to make a point or just curious?

Curious. I thought I read that he struggled mightily against ranked teams.