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HonestChieffan
09-19-2011, 05:54 PM
Fast and Furious, then we have the Solar scam...Obama can't stand much more. Or can he?

This ain't Chicago and this stuff can't be made to go away.


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WASHINGTON — CBS News has obtained secretly recorded conversations that raise questions as to whether some evidence is being withheld in the murder of a Border Patrol agent.

The tapes were recorded approximately mid-March 2011 by the primary gun dealer cooperating with ATF in its “Fast and Furious” operation: Andre Howard, owner of Lone Wolf Trading Company in Glendale, Arizona. He’s talking with the lead case ATF case agent Hope MacAllister.

The tapes have been turned over to Congressional investigators and the Inspector General.

As CBS News first reported last February, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allegedly allowed thousands of weapons to “walk” onto the streets without interdiction into the hands of suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels in its operation “Fast and Furious.”

The conversations refer to a third weapon recovered at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20108240-10391695.html

banyon
09-19-2011, 07:39 PM
Compared to the economy, this is a gnat.

DJJasonp
09-20-2011, 01:59 PM
(The soon to be dead) Andre Howard, owner of Lone Wolf Trading Company in Glendale, Arizona. Hes talking with the lead case ATF case agent Hope MacAllister.

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Fixed quote...

ChiTown
09-20-2011, 04:02 PM
Compared to the economy, this is a gnat.

Agreed. Unless this has to do with Bush, let's just ignore this cover-up.

I got this one, Banyon. NEXT!

mlyonsd
09-20-2011, 06:45 PM
Holder was probably playing with legos in his office when he sat in on the conference call detailing what the plan was for handing out weapons to criminals. So I'm guessing the administration is clear on this one.

banyon
09-21-2011, 08:36 AM
Agreed. Unless this has to do with Bush, let's just ignore this cover-up.

I got this one, Banyon. NEXT!

I didn't say ignore it.

Just that calling it "Obama's nightmare" is a bit of hyperbole I think.

I think Obama's nightmare is 9.0+ % unemployment continuing into October 2012.

blaise
09-21-2011, 08:41 AM
Compared to the economy, this is a gnat.

You never know what's going to stick in voter's minds as an important failure that turns them away. A lot of people vote off a bumper sticker slogan or an email forward.

ChiTown
09-21-2011, 08:45 AM
You never know what's going to stick in voter's minds as an important failure that turns them away. A lot of people vote off a bumper sticker slogan or an email forward.

Perfect:clap:

banyon
09-21-2011, 08:55 AM
You never know what's going to stick in voter's minds as an important failure that turns them away. A lot of people vote off a bumper sticker slogan or an email forward.

True. There were people who voted against Obama because he was going to "take away their guns". When there was no reason to believe that.

blaise
09-21-2011, 09:39 AM
True. There were people who voted against Obama because he was going to "take away their guns". When there was no reason to believe that.

Or hope and change.

ChiTown
09-21-2011, 09:44 AM
Or hope and change.

More like "shuck and jive"

/VailPass:D

HonestChieffan
09-21-2011, 09:47 AM
True. There were people who voted against Obama because he was going to "take away their guns". When there was no reason to believe that.


People voted for Obama cause he was going to close Gitmo, stop the wars, bring transparency to government, not be partisan, post all legislation online not raise taxes, and bring the country together.

Damn. Not much reason to believe anything he says/said/will say

banyon
09-21-2011, 10:21 AM
Or hope and change.

agreed

There has been no change and the hope has turned to dread.

Hence the lack of my support for him.

Dylan
10-09-2011, 06:02 PM
Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer's home

Published October 09, 2011 / Los Angeles Times

Forty high-powered assault weapons were found in the Ciudad Juarez home of Jose Antonio Torres Marrufo, a "feared" leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel in that city. The Sinaloa cartel is considered the most powerful drug trafficking organization in the world.

"These Fast and Furious guns were going to Sinaloans, and they are killing everyone down there," one knowledgeable US government source told the Times.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atf-guns-20111009,0,6431788.story

mlyonsd
10-09-2011, 07:00 PM
Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer's home

Published October 09, 2011 / Los Angeles Times

Forty high-powered assault weapons were found in the Ciudad Juarez home of Jose Antonio Torres Marrufo, a "feared" leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel in that city. The Sinaloa cartel is considered the most powerful drug trafficking organization in the world.

"These Fast and Furious guns were going to Sinaloans, and they are killing everyone down there," one knowledgeable US government source told the Times.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atf-guns-20111009,0,6431788.storyDoesn't matter Dylan.

We all know Holder and the rest of the administration are the new millenium version of the Keystone Cops. Continuing to bring it up doesn't generate new discussion.

mikey23545
10-10-2011, 06:17 AM
True. There were people who voted against Obama because he was going to "take away their guns". When there was no reason to believe that.

We certainly had no reason to believe he was going to "take away our guns" and give them to Mexican drug cartels.

evenfall
10-10-2011, 11:25 AM
Holder should resign. He clearly knew about this and clearly lied about that before the committee.

vailpass
10-10-2011, 11:30 AM
All Bush's fault. obama is blameless here, he didn't know and couldn't have done anything about it anyway.

BucEyedPea
10-10-2011, 02:26 PM
A meltdown in the bunker of Dear Leader and cohorts?

trndobrd
10-10-2011, 09:51 PM
Holder should resign. He clearly knew about this and clearly lied about that before the committee.

It's equally possible that Holder didn't read the updates and memos from his staff and didn't know what was going on. Rep Issa summed up Holder's most recent defense nicely in his letter to the Attorney General:

At best, this indicates negligence and incompetence in your duties as attorney general. At worst, it places your credibility into serious doubt."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/10/issa-letter-questions-holders-overall-credibility/

Chiefshrink
10-11-2011, 08:20 AM
This list would make Nixon jealous:D

BigChiefFan
10-12-2011, 01:24 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/eric-holder-to-get-subpoena-on-failed-fast-and-furious-anti-gunrunning-operation/2011/10/12/gIQA9N7xeL_blog.html



Subpoena issued for Eric Holder

go bowe
10-12-2011, 01:33 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/eric-holder-to-get-subpoena-on-failed-fast-and-furious-anti-gunrunning-operation/2011/10/12/gIQA9N7xeL_blog.html



Subpoena issued for Eric Holder

pffffffffffft...

washington post...

it's not even owned by murdock...

HonestChieffan
10-12-2011, 05:05 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/eric-holder-to-get-subpoena-on-failed-fast-and-furious-anti-gunrunning-operation/2011/10/12/gIQA9N7xeL_blog.html



Subpoena issued for Eric Holder


All the kings horses.....

vailpass
10-12-2011, 05:32 PM
All the kings horses.....

Outstanding book. All The King's Men, that is.

BigChiefFan
10-14-2011, 01:11 PM
Don't forget...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuivNh5nOHY

I want charges of treason brought against these criminals.

Saul Good
10-14-2011, 01:45 PM
Where are all the calls for frog-marching?

orange
10-14-2011, 02:32 PM
Where are all the calls for frog-marching?

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... And they're getting serious this time ...

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