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lostcause
09-22-2011, 02:20 AM
The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is fucking stupid. It's fucking stupid.

Fruit Ninja
09-22-2011, 02:21 AM
lol, Dude, 42 years of sucktastic does that. There is alot of heart actually, but most everyone now knows that the only way the Chiefs will get anywhere is with a legit franchise qb. The last 25 years of plugging qb's into the line up doesnt work and will NOT work in todays game.

Count Zarth
09-22-2011, 02:23 AM
It's not based on two games.

It's based on four games in which we got eviscerated at a near-historic rate of disgust, and 32 games of mostly shit-tarded quarterback play that has made it abundantly clear Undesirable No. 1 is taking us NOWHERE and needs a legit replacement.

bowener
09-22-2011, 02:24 AM
Can you honestly say with a straight face (or gay NTTATWRT) that the Chiefs have a reasonable chance to win the Super Bowl this year?

That is the goal of every team or should be the goal. Until the Chiefs have a legitimate QB they will fall short.

BigMeatballDave
09-22-2011, 02:24 AM
Lostcause has no brain...

SPchief
09-22-2011, 02:30 AM
Hi Frankie! your mom is a whore

Chocolate Hog
09-22-2011, 02:31 AM
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Guru
09-22-2011, 02:39 AM
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Buck
09-22-2011, 02:40 AM
reposq

Hog Farmer
09-22-2011, 03:15 AM
The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is ****ing stupid. It's ****ing stupid.


LMAO Moron ! We need Luck !

Crush
09-22-2011, 04:44 AM
It is actually the last 40 years of mediocrity. We need a fucking franchise QB in the worst way.

blaise
09-22-2011, 04:53 AM
Can we consolidate the, "I can't believe you're quitting on the Chiefs/ I can't believe you guys want to Suck for Luck" threads into one larger thread from here on out?

the Talking Can
09-22-2011, 05:03 AM
i hope we win 8 games and keep Cassel as QB



why?




i don't know, but our tard fanbase says that's what True Fans want....

Fritz88
09-22-2011, 05:13 AM
The irony in your name..

KC-TBB
09-22-2011, 05:32 AM
I used to be a 'Castlesta' now I've dropped that turd and feel refreshed...

cookster50
09-22-2011, 05:48 AM
It's not stupid, your face is stupid!

InChiefsHell
09-22-2011, 05:50 AM
Understand something dude, even if we pull out of this shit and win the division, I STILL want Luck as a QBOTF. But, the only way that happens is if the Chiefs suck, which so far is the case.

Cassel is not the solution, it's been thoroughly proven over the course of 2 seasons going on the third. I don't want to see the Chiefs suck ass like this, but it IS what it IS. We have to take something positive out of that, and that would be the prospect of drafting Luck.

I'd be OK with the Chiefs losing out but not getting blown out and humiliated every week. Is that better?

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2011, 05:50 AM
How is this working out for ya...?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7904114&postcount=67


Dumbass.

Short Leash Hootie
09-22-2011, 05:55 AM
We will find a way to fuck up Luck...I have no doubt.

Bane
09-22-2011, 06:00 AM
Luck in a KC uni would be a welcome sight but does he play D as well?I somehow think the D allowing 40 points a game is out of his control.

cookster50
09-22-2011, 06:04 AM
Luck in a KC uni would be a welcome sight but does he play D as well?I somehow think the D allowing 40 points a game is out of his control.

Because turnovers and complete offensive ineptitude resulting in 3 and outs has nothing to do with the D giving up 40.......

RubberSponge
09-22-2011, 06:06 AM
You're right. We have no heart. We have a brain.

Bane
09-22-2011, 06:08 AM
Because turnovers and complete offensive ineptitude resulting in 3 and outs has nothing to do with the D giving up 40.......

Just convincing myself that it will never happen so maybe there is a 1% chance that it will.

PhillyChiefFan
09-22-2011, 06:12 AM
All legit playoff teams have a franchise QB, you can't deny that.

Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Ryan, Flacco, Brees, Roethlisberger, Vick....there is a reason why those teams are contenders year after year and we are not.

Hell look what happened to Arizona as soon as Warner retired! Or San Fran after Young.

Cassel isn't a franchise QB. He didn't start for USC, didn't start in NE, but yet the Chiefs threw 60 million at him? Why? Because of one good season with a great offense.

Luck MAY be the next Manning. Personally, I would like to get a legit franchise QB and be a contender for the next 15 seasons. I'm tired of pluggin the most important position with retreads and QB's that simply are not franchise QB's.

Bane
09-22-2011, 06:13 AM
All legit playoff teams have a franchise QB, you can't deny that.

Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Ryan, Flacco, Brees, Roethlisberger, Vick....there is a reason why those teams are contenders year after year and we are not.

Hell look what happened to Arizona as soon as Warner retired! Or San Fran after Young.

Cassel isn't a franchise QB. He didn't start for USC, didn't start in NE, but yet the Chiefs threw 60 million at him? Why? Because of one good season with a great offense.

Luck MAY be the next Manning. Personally, I would like to get a legit franchise QB and be a contender for the next 15 seasons. I'm tired of pluggin the most important position with retreads and QB's that simply are not franchise QB's.


Yep,he won 11 games with a 16-0 team.Awesome eh?:banghead:

DaKCMan AP
09-22-2011, 06:15 AM
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Bane
09-22-2011, 06:17 AM
http://www.truefans.com/images/true_fans_book_cover.png

LMAO
Holy shit!!!

Tuckdaddy
09-22-2011, 06:17 AM
What the hell ever! KC has not even attempted to get a top prospect at QB in almost 30 years. Mediocrety at the position has been the staus quo. I am not a qutter but we will never win anything without a really good QB. I hope we lose because this is our chance to get one.

We need this.

Deberg_1990
09-22-2011, 06:28 AM
I miss the Arrowhead of the 90's......great BBQ, Great tailgates, the place was a constant party. We could always count on winning 8-10 games every year and getting bounced in the playoffs...good times.

PhillyChiefFan
09-22-2011, 06:33 AM
Yep,he won 11 games with a 16-0 team.Awesome eh?:banghead:

Exactly. I believe Alex Smith, Kerry Collins, Chad Henne, or any B list QB could have had pretty much the same outcome.

Through 2 games (against arguably the easiest stretch of the schedule):

Statline: 37/58, 252 yds 1 TD / 4 INT

16 Game Pace: 296/464, 2016 yds 8 TD / 32 INT

If you saw that statline, and didn't know it was Cassel's, would you think that team had ANY chance of making the playoffs with that QB at the helm?

the Talking Can
09-22-2011, 06:36 AM
I miss Carl Peterson.

movinbones
09-22-2011, 06:38 AM
The irony in your name..


LMAO

DaKCMan AP
09-22-2011, 06:40 AM
Exactly. I believe Alex Smith, Kerry Collins, Chad Henne, or any B list QB could have had pretty much the same outcome.

Through 2 games (against arguably the easiest stretch of the schedule):

Statline: 37/58, 252 yds 1 TD / 4 INT

16 Game Pace: 296/464, 2016 yds 8 TD / 32 INT

If you saw that statline, and didn't know it was Cassel's, would you think that team had ANY chance of making the playoffs with that QB at the helm?

The absolute last straw, the dagger, the nail in the coffin for anyone who still believed in Matt Cassel should have been last week when the worthless pile of garbage couldn't even get off a pass, despite plenty of time and pass protection, on a hail mary at the end of the first half.

jlscorpio
09-22-2011, 06:43 AM
just un-fucking-believable.

luv
09-22-2011, 06:48 AM
Can we consolidate the, "I can't believe you're quitting on the Chiefs/ I can't believe you guys want to Suck for Luck" threads into one larger thread from here on out?

Only if we can consolidate all of the Suck for Luck threads into one as well. Not saying I agree with OP, but this place is nothing but Luck threads lately.

PhillyChiefFan
09-22-2011, 06:51 AM
The absolute last straw, the dagger, the nail in the coffin for anyone who still believed in Matt Cassel should have been last week when the worthless pile of garbage couldn't even get off a pass, despite plenty of time and pass protection, on a hail mary at the end of the first half.

Yep. The blame can't be on the oline, they were giving him time. He danced in the pocket and checked down like a college freshman QB.

He was scared of the Buffalo defense...imagine what's going to happen when he goes up against the Steelers, Packers, Chargers, and Jets defense.

That projected statline will look like a pipedream.

blaise
09-22-2011, 06:56 AM
Kafka will probably start 4 games for the Eagles, throw for 1,000 yards and the Chiefs will give the Eagles a 3rd round draft pick for him. Then he'll come here and throw 4 TDs 14 INTs and be cut two years later.

Count Zarth
09-22-2011, 06:57 AM
I miss the Arrowhead of the 90's......great BBQ, Great tailgates, the place was a constant party. We could always count on winning 8-10 games every year and getting bounced in the playoffs...good times.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/carlfart.gif

patteeu
09-22-2011, 07:04 AM
The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is ****ing stupid. It's ****ing stupid.

Even the pessimists going into this season expected the Chiefs to win at least one of the first two games. Instead, they got embarrassed in both. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to expect this team to be drafting in the top 10 this year after those performances and if they're going to be drafting in the top 10 because of poor play from the QB in a year when the most heralded QB prospect in years will be coming out, it's reasonable to want to get that top draft spot.

If the Chiefs beat the Chargers in San Diego this weekend, maybe we can start entertaining the idea of winning a weak division despite having a poor record at the end of the season, but until then there's little reason to have any hope other than the hope we might land Andrew Luck in the draft.

Hydrae
09-22-2011, 07:26 AM
I agree completely that Cassell needs to go and go far, far away from this team. But this place is becoming downright depressing with all the people rooting for the entire team to lose. Even after 20 years (sorry, I didn't start following the team until 1991) and all the heartache that has entailed, I root for the team to win each week. I, like many, have gotten to the point of enough numbness to keep the losses from getting me down for days but I still expect a best effort every game and believe in "any given Sunday."

At the rate the discussions around here have been going, I am tempted to just hang out in DC. It is less depressing to argue about the current state of the country than to listen to the hand-wringing in the lounge.

CosmicPal
09-22-2011, 07:32 AM
Lost, you have to be realistic here:

For starters, nobody expected this team to be much better than .500 this season. This is a brutal schedule against some very good football teams. A couple of breaks here and there, and we may have won 10 games. But realistically, this was an 8-8 team with every one of its starters playing.

Now, we've lost three crucial starters for the season. And that doesn't include the other injuries, including our first-round draft pick. Our chances of an 8-8 season greatly diminishes. Our chances of even winning 10 games would be a miracle of religious proportions.

With the injuries we have endured combined with the relentless schedule and the poor play of just about everyone on the team, this team at BEST, can win 3 or 4 games.

So, think about that come the April draft. Those 3 games we won just killed our chance of scoring a future QB with outstanding potential to lead our team out of the doldrums for many years to come. Instead, we draft another DT with our first pick and Luck goes to Indianapolis where he continues their epic dynasty and the Chiefs are forever mired in good seasons and bad.

Would you want 3 wins this season and miss out on your potential Hall-of-Fame QB?

Or do you want 0 wins and a chance at a future dynasty?

Think about that the next time you want the Chiefs to win just one of its' three games this season.

Nobody feels good about rooting to lose. But this season is different. This season, rooting to lose comes with epic rewards!! Something you'll feel good about for many years to come.

DaKCMan AP
09-22-2011, 07:37 AM
Yep. The blame can't be on the oline, they were giving him time. He danced in the pocket and checked down like a college freshman QB.

He was scared of the Buffalo defense...imagine what's going to happen when he goes up against the Steelers, Packers, Chargers, and Jets defense.

That projected statline will look like a pipedream.

He didn't even check down. He did his signature possum, keel over and die routine, taking the sack.

Rain Man
09-22-2011, 07:47 AM
14-2 and home field. You read it here first.

Von Dumbass
09-22-2011, 07:58 AM
Everybody called me a quitter because I turned off a couple games at halftime, but I never once gave up on any season until we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and even when we were I still wanted Denver to win every game.

Otter
09-22-2011, 08:00 AM
Planet...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSY-spb-zKW3g2lf45ZuvFr8_othrIq_EHksFHMom0Sc42kssltof8xMMJt5A

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2011, 08:04 AM
Everybody called me a quitter because I turned off a couple games at halftime, but I never once gave up on any season until we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and even when we were I still wanted Denver to win every game.

I can hear the knocking of your knees as the chances of the Chiefs drafting Luck increases.

Sofa King
09-22-2011, 08:05 AM
Everybody called me a quitter because I turned off a couple games at halftime, but I never once gave up on any season until we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and even when we were I still wanted Denver to win every game.

Nice try.

CosmicPal
09-22-2011, 08:20 AM
Everybody called me a quitter because I turned off a couple games at halftime, but I never once gave up on any season until we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and even when we were I still wanted Denver to win every game.

YOU would want Denver to lose every game this season if it meant you would have a chance to draft fuggin Elway. So STFU!

blaise
09-22-2011, 08:30 AM
No one needs to root for Denver to suck, they just do.

BigRichard
09-22-2011, 08:31 AM
Lost, you have to be realistic here:

For starters, nobody expected this team to be much better than .500 this season. This is a brutal schedule against some very good football teams. A couple of breaks here and there, and we may have won 10 games. But realistically, this was an 8-8 team with every one of its starters playing.

Now, we've lost three crucial starters for the season. And that doesn't include the other injuries, including our first-round draft pick. Our chances of an 8-8 season greatly diminishes. Our chances of even winning 10 games would be a miracle of religious proportions.

With the injuries we have endured combined with the relentless schedule and the poor play of just about everyone on the team, this team at BEST, can win 3 or 4 games.

So, think about that come the April draft. Those 3 games we won just killed our chance of scoring a future QB with outstanding potential to lead our team out of the doldrums for many years to come. Instead, we draft another DT with our first pick and Luck goes to Indianapolis where he continues their epic dynasty and the Chiefs are forever mired in good seasons and bad.

Would you want 3 wins this season and miss out on your potential Hall-of-Fame QB?

Or do you want 0 wins and a chance at a future dynasty?

Think about that the next time you want the Chiefs to win just one of its' three games this season.

Nobody feels good about rooting to lose. But this season is different. This season, rooting to lose comes with epic rewards!! Something you'll feel good about for many years to come.

This is exactly right.

Kyle DeLexus
09-22-2011, 08:32 AM
Everybody called me a quitter because I turned off a couple games at halftime, but I never once gave up on any season until we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and even when we were I still wanted Denver to win every game.

Hey you got your savior in Tebow, we are just trying to keep up!

Chiefshrink
09-22-2011, 08:43 AM
The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is ****ing stupid. It's ****ing stupid.

Everyone's jumping ship for good reasons because everyone's anxiety about this team actually started last yr when we got blew out by Oakland and then on by Balt in the playoffs only to continue this year. Everyone's anxiety was heightened even more by this pre-season play only to be confirmed with this 0-2 start with a tough ass schedule to boot with the ACL bug in full form.

Get it now?

luv
09-22-2011, 08:44 AM
Mitch has heart. Well, at least he has pride.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/Chiefs-Brief/b0733ebd-49af-4aa5-be74-021f1ef33d19

Of course, I think he's paid to.

gblowfish
09-22-2011, 09:11 AM
If this guy wants all sunshine and rainbows, go post on Arrowhead Pride.
Double Plus Ungood thought is not allowed there.

If you count pre-season, this team has lost eight straight. That's not good, no matter how you slice it.

patteeu
09-22-2011, 09:13 AM
What inspired your username, lostcause?

Brock
09-22-2011, 09:21 AM
There's lots of homer boards for people like you.

Try WPI.

Braincase
09-22-2011, 09:23 AM
You're excused. Come back in after the Superbowl to gloat and tell us all "I told you so". Or not.

Cave Johnson
09-22-2011, 09:25 AM
Let me guess, lostcause also thinks we should draft a tackle in the first.....

DaKCMan AP
09-22-2011, 09:27 AM
http://www.gonemovies.com/www/MyWebFilms/Drama/WizardTinManClose.jpg

keg in kc
09-22-2011, 09:28 AM
If we're the cowardly lion, 'lostcause' is the scarecrow.

keg in kc
09-22-2011, 09:28 AM
Okay, that's some frightening same wavelength shit there.

lcarus
09-22-2011, 09:29 AM
After the years we've suffered as Chiefs fans, anybody that's still here has a shit ton of heart.

Mr. Kotter
09-22-2011, 09:30 AM
What a noob.... LMAO

blaise
09-22-2011, 09:40 AM
When teams charge $9 for beers they forfeit the whole, "Support the team no matter what" concept.

Mr. Kotter
09-22-2011, 09:45 AM
When teams charge $9 for beers they forfeit the whole, "Support the team no matter what" concept.

Yup.

suds79
09-22-2011, 09:46 AM
After the years we've suffered as Chiefs fans, anybody that's still here has a shit ton of heart.

What a business model the NFL has.

Imagine any other business where you have a segment of your customer base who believes in sticking by you no matter what kind of crap product you put out.

Chiefnj2
09-22-2011, 09:50 AM
This place is going to be great when KC wins its first game. Meltdown of epic proportions.

Bump
09-22-2011, 09:51 AM
we're still here aren't we? Even though we are the laughing stock of the league. It's clear to us Chiefs fans who have been around for a while that we need an elite QB. Getting that #1 pick will put that one huge piece together. We need Luck, even if he somehow fails, which I really don't think he will, at least we would have tried. We haven't won a playoff game since the last time we had an elite QB. It's simple really.

blaise
09-22-2011, 09:57 AM
It would just be nice to have a QB where you could think, "This is the guy for the next 5 years, at least." Even if he wasn't Manning or Brady. Just to at least have a guy that you could rely on to give you a chance week in and week out, and not have to have a great running game and defense to carry him.
Bad QB play is just so depressing to watch.

ChiefsNow
09-22-2011, 10:02 AM
The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is fucking stupid. It's fucking stupid.

I agree with you.

Short Leash Hootie
09-22-2011, 10:19 AM
Only if we can consolidate all of the Suck for Luck threads into one as well. Not saying I agree with OP, but this place is nothing but Luck threads lately.

what the fuck else should we talk about?

Surely not what we see on Sundays? That's just downright depressing/not worth talking about.

I'd love to see Dexter total 1800 yards and us go 0-16. That's my goal for the season.

lcarus
09-22-2011, 10:35 AM
What a business model the NFL has.

Imagine any other business where you have a segment of your customer base who believes in sticking by you no matter what kind of crap product you put out.

It's a league/business where change happens all the time. That's what gives fans hope. Even Cassel getting benched keeps fans hopeful, as stupid as that is. We still aren't going to win much with Palko, but fans would cheer their asses off if he came in. It's just the nature of fans.

Also, it's a league where a team can be dreadful for decades and one year emerge as a Super Bowl contender. We saw it with Arizona and with New Orleans, and probably a lot more I'm forgetting about. What do those teams have in common? They all got a good quarterback.....

Pawnmower
09-22-2011, 10:37 AM
The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is ****ing stupid. It's ****ing stupid.

Yep....

You will hear all kinds of excuses & justifications, but they all sound exactly the same...

Like a big flapping meaty vagina with hot queef air coming out.

I have never seen a bigger collection of pussies, faggots, trolls, cowards and brokedick losers in my life.

lcarus
09-22-2011, 10:48 AM
Yep....

You will hear all kinds of excuses & justifications, but they all sound exactly the same...

Like a big flapping meaty vagina with hot queef air coming out.

I have never seen a bigger collection of pussies, pillowbitergots, trolls, cowards and brokedick losers in my life.

It's just the way fans are. When you lose the way we lost the first 2 games and also suffer that many key injuries, it's pretty devastating you have to admit. This season so far is just a disaster no matter how you look at it. Especially with an absolutely brutal schedule. I can't blame people for thinking towards a brighter future with a franchise QB.

However by the same token, a couple of unlikely wins might turn some fans around on the season. So FAR though...there is absolutely no reason to have any hope for this year. Chances of us being in the hunt for a playoff spot in December is extremely extremely unlikely. Our fans are smart enough to understand this.

So go ahead all you "rah rah" "team spirit" cheerleaders. Root for a win every Sunday. Do it. The rest of us will be more concerned with the future of our team than the rest of this abysmal joke of a season that will be over before we know it.

38yrsfan
09-22-2011, 11:00 AM
The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is ****ing stupid. It's ****ing stupid.

Completely agree.

Okie_Apparition
09-22-2011, 11:05 AM
How you cheer in your livingroom/on computer is not going to change the scoreboard. It does effect the depth of your developing hatchetwound

Dr. Facebook Fever
09-22-2011, 12:58 PM
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that this thread was started by a guy named lostcause?

|Zach|
09-22-2011, 01:03 PM
This is much more than bad play on the field.

Donger
09-22-2011, 01:03 PM
I have never seen a bigger collection of pussies, pillowbitergots, trolls, cowards and brokedick losers in my life.

What exactly are you rooting for? What result will make you "happy" this season, and do you think that result is possible?

Pawnmower
09-22-2011, 01:13 PM
What exactly are you rooting for? What result will make you "happy" this season, and do you think that result is possible?

I root for whatever is appropriate. On Sunday I will be rooting for the CHIEFS to beat our hated division rival, since we are only one game back....You ALREADY said you are rooting for the Chargers to win....what more needs to be said?

Go ahead and root for the Chargers...I don't give a **** if the Chiefs are 0-15 I would still root for the Chiefs to beat the Gayders , the Donks or SandyEggo...

I had hopes we would do well this season, obviously with all of the injuries and whatnot I have to adjust what will make me 'happy.'

Beating the raiders or eliminating one of our division opponents from a wild card spot will have to do it for me this season, unless a miracle happens.

You go ahead and root for the Chargers though, sally.

Donger
09-22-2011, 01:21 PM
I root for whatever is appropriate. On Sunday I will be rooting for the CHIEFS to beat our hated division rival, since we are only one game back....You ALREADY said you are rooting for the Chargers to win....what more needs to be said?

Go ahead and root for the Chargers...I don't give a **** if the Chiefs are 0-15 I would still root for the Chiefs to beat the Gayders , the Donks or SandyEggo...

I had hopes we would do well this season, obviously with all of the injuries and whatnot I have to adjust what will make me 'happy.'

Beating the raiders or eliminating one of our division opponents from a wild card spot will have to do it for me this season, unless a miracle happens.

You go ahead and root for the Chargers though, sally.

Well, if that makes you feel good, have at it. I think you are missing the point that the people who want the Chiefs to lose out are doing so for a very specific reason, which is to hopefully land a franchise QB who would give the Chiefs a shot at the ultimate goal.

Short-term pain for long-term joy.

listopencil
09-22-2011, 01:27 PM
What a business model the NFL has.

Imagine any other business where you have a segment of your customer base who believes in sticking by you no matter what kind of crap product you put out.

http://rlv.zcache.com/sheeple_sticker-p217614376949593962q0ou_400.jpg

DaKCMan AP
09-22-2011, 01:30 PM
I root for whatever is appropriate. On Sunday I will be rooting for the CHIEFS to beat our hated division rival, since we are only one game back....You ALREADY said you are rooting for the Chargers to win....what more needs to be said?

Go ahead and root for the Chargers...I don't give a **** if the Chiefs are 0-15 I would still root for the Chiefs to beat the Gayders , the Donks or SandyEggo...

I had hopes we would do well this season, obviously with all of the injuries and whatnot I have to adjust what will make me 'happy.'

Beating the raiders or eliminating one of our division opponents from a wild card spot will have to do it for me this season, unless a miracle happens.

You go ahead and root for the Chargers though, sally.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJoLTqsgdE5fbDy204YiLj5EICIHt7VLwvVC_n8DEX-ZEZoEgZf1c65KiRIQ

Pawnmower
09-22-2011, 01:32 PM
Well, if that makes you feel good, have at it. I think you are missing the point that the people who want the Chiefs to lose out are doing so for a very specific reason, which is to hopefully land a franchise QB


To me that is fucking idiotic....The odds of us getting Luck are quite low anyhow, and the odds of Luck being some kind of messiah are even lower.......if you multiply those two things together and then add in intentionally rooting to lose when we are only two games into the season....I come up with 100% fucking morons.

Thats just my math though, add it up yourself and check it.

Donger
09-22-2011, 01:36 PM
To me that is ****ing idiotic....The odds of us getting Luck are quite low anyhow, and the odds of Luck being some kind of messiah are even lower.......if you multiply those two things together and then add in intentionally rooting to lose when we are only two games into the season....I come up with 100% ****ing morons.

Thats just my math though, add it up yourself and check it.

Are the odds of Luck (if the Chiefs were to get him) taking them to the Super Bowl better than the odds of Cassel doing the same?

Pawnmower
09-22-2011, 01:45 PM
Are the odds of Luck (if the Chiefs were to get him) taking them to the Super Bowl better than the odds of Cassel doing the same?

At this point I would have to say yes, based on age, hype, etc...and the fact our team sucks right now and would have years to get better with a new QB.

But there are so many variables that basically it is opinion, not fact.

The facts are 1) the odds of getting Luck are very low (lets just say 10%, and thats generous) 2) the odds of Luck being a hall of fame / superbowl type QB are low (lets say 5% or even 10%) 3) the odds the Chiefs will spend the money and build the team around Luck to deliver him to the superbowl are fairly low...lets be HUGELY generous and say 50%.......

Do the math - 10% X 10% X 50% = .5% (.005 in terms of probability.)

For everything you want to happen would be less than 1 percent, even by fairly generous standards.....

So you are willing to root against your team, root for failure to take this tiny shot in the dark?

I think its stupid, but thats just me. I'd prefer to be realistic and root for things that make me happy now...Like destroying the Faid and Donks.

Sucky
09-22-2011, 01:46 PM
lol, Dude, 42 years of sucktastic does that. There is alot of heart actually, but most everyone now knows that the only way the Chiefs will get anywhere is with a legit franchise qb. The last 25 years of plugging qb's into the line up doesnt work and will NOT work in todays game.

THIS

Brock
09-22-2011, 01:47 PM
I think its stupid, but thats just me. I'd prefer to be realistic and root for things that make me happy now...Like destroying the Faid and Donks.

Neither of those things are realistic.

the Talking Can
09-22-2011, 01:48 PM
To me that is ****ing idiotic....The odds of us getting Luck are quite low anyhow, and the odds of Luck being some kind of messiah are even lower.......if you multiply those two things together and then add in intentionally rooting to lose when we are only two games into the season....I come up with 100% ****ing morons.

Thats just my math though, add it up yourself and check it.

according to your math, Cassel is a great QB

BigMeatballDave
09-22-2011, 01:49 PM
At this point I would have to say yes, based on age, hype, etc...and the fact our team sucks right now and would have years to get better with a new QB.

But there are so many variables that basically it is opinion, not fact.

The facts are 1) the odds of getting Luck are very low (lets just say 10%, and thats generous) 2) the odds of Luck being a hall of fame / superbowl type QB are low (lets say 5% or even 10%) 3) the odds the Chiefs will spend the money and build the team around Luck to deliver him to the superbowl are fairly low...lets be HUGELY generous and say 50%.......

Do the math - 10% X 10% X 50% = .5% (.005 in terms of probability.)

For everything you want to happen would be less than 1 percent, even by fairly generous standards.....

So you are willing to root against your team, root for failure to take this tiny shot in the dark?

I think its stupid, but thats just me. I'd prefer to be realistic and root for things that make me happy now...Like destroying the Faid and Donks.
The odds of you growing a brain are even smaller.

Have fun in The Matt Cassel Unicorns and Rainbows fantasy land.

notorious
09-22-2011, 01:52 PM
Odds of doing anything without a Franchise QB - 0%




ZERO!

the Talking Can
09-22-2011, 01:53 PM
odds of pawnsmoker dying with Cassel's sack stuck in his mouth

100%

whoman69
09-22-2011, 01:55 PM
Well, if that makes you feel good, have at it. I think you are missing the point that the people who want the Chiefs to lose out are doing so for a very specific reason, which is to hopefully land a franchise QB who would give the Chiefs a shot at the ultimate goal.

Short-term pain for long-term joy.

More times than not that short-term pain turns into long-term pain. Teams that drop into that abyss were there for more reasons than just poor QB play. If anyone thinks that we can just stick in a good QB and call it a day is mistaken. Cleveland never got out of that hole except one fluke season. San Diego was seen as such a poor place to play that Eli Manning demanded a trade. Cincinnatti is still the Bungles despite one division championship with Palmer. The Raiders are still a mediocre team after finally admitting their stud #1 pick was not it. The Lions seem to be pulling out of it but haven't done anything yet. The Rams look like they're playing poorly again. There is only one example of a team pulling out of the stigma of being worst team in the league, and that team had Peyton Manning. One year without him and they are contending again for worst.

Being worst carries more baggage that regularly is not offset by getting the top pick in the draft. There is the stigma which chases away free agents. There is the losing attitude to overcome.

Donger
09-22-2011, 01:59 PM
At this point I would have to say yes

Thanks.

Detoxing
09-22-2011, 01:59 PM
More times than not that short-term pain turns into long-term pain. Teams that drop into that abyss were there for more reasons than just poor QB play. If anyone thinks that we can just stick in a good QB and call it a day is mistaken. Cleveland never got out of that hole except one fluke season. San Diego was seen as such a poor place to play that Eli Manning demanded a trade. Cincinnatti is still the Bungles despite one division championship with Palmer. The Raiders are still a mediocre team after finally admitting their stud #1 pick was not it. The Lions seem to be pulling out of it but haven't done anything yet. The Rams look like they're playing poorly again. There is only one example of a team pulling out of the stigma of being worst team in the league, and that team had Peyton Manning. One year without him and they are contending again for worst.

Being worst carries more baggage that regularly is not offset by getting the top pick in the draft. There is the stigma which chases away free agents. There is the losing attitude to overcome.

Difference is that this team actually has talent on the roster.

patteeu
09-22-2011, 02:08 PM
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that this thread was started by a guy named lostcause?

Nope. That's why I asked him what inspired his username earlier in the thread. I'm still waiting on his answer.

patteeu
09-22-2011, 02:11 PM
What exactly are you rooting for? What result will make you "happy" this season, and do you think that result is possible?

If the Chiefs can't win the division this year, and it sure looks like they can't, it would be sweet if they went into game 15 with an 0-14 record only to have two convincing wins in the final two weeks that kill Oakland and Denver's playoff hopes and still leave the Chiefs with the first pick overall at 2-14. That's my dream scenario, barring an unlikely resurgence.

notorious
09-22-2011, 02:16 PM
If the Chiefs can't win the division this year, and it sure looks like they can't, it would be sweet if they went into game 15 with an 0-14 record only to have two convincing wins in the final two weeks that kill Oakland and Denver's playoff hopes and still leave the Chiefs with the first pick overall at 2-14. That's my dream scenario, barring an unlikely resurgence.

Dream scenario would be 14-2 season capped by a SB Championship.....


ROFL ROFL ROFL


Now that I got that nonsense out of the way, your scenario would be the second best outcome.

patteeu
09-22-2011, 02:18 PM
Dream scenario would be 14-2 season capped by a SB Championship.....


ROFL ROFL ROFL


Now that I got that nonsense out of the way, your scenario would be the second best outcome.

Agree, of course. :)

Donger
09-22-2011, 02:19 PM
More times than not that short-term pain turns into long-term pain. Teams that drop into that abyss were there for more reasons than just poor QB play. If anyone thinks that we can just stick in a good QB and call it a day is mistaken. Cleveland never got out of that hole except one fluke season. San Diego was seen as such a poor place to play that Eli Manning demanded a trade. Cincinnatti is still the Bungles despite one division championship with Palmer. The Raiders are still a mediocre team after finally admitting their stud #1 pick was not it. The Lions seem to be pulling out of it but haven't done anything yet. The Rams look like they're playing poorly again. There is only one example of a team pulling out of the stigma of being worst team in the league, and that team had Peyton Manning. One year without him and they are contending again for worst.

Being worst carries more baggage that regularly is not offset by getting the top pick in the draft. There is the stigma which chases away free agents. There is the losing attitude to overcome.

But it seems pretty clear that this season is going to be painful regardless. What's a little more pain added for the chance of perhaps drafting a franchise QB?

KCUnited
09-22-2011, 02:35 PM
This team does have talent. Talent that is locked up.

That's why it's imperative to ride this perfect shit storm of QB failure, freak injuries, unpreparedness, first round playmaker breaking his thumb in a fight, br00tal schedule, and historic bad start into an elite QB without having to completely rebuild.

whoman69
09-22-2011, 03:22 PM
Difference is that this team actually has talent on the roster.

First year with a rookie QB will be growing pains. In that time the young talent we have gets older. You're not only giving up this year, but next as well and perhaps more.

Dr. Facebook Fever
09-22-2011, 03:25 PM
Nope. That's why I asked him what inspired his username earlier in the thread. I'm still waiting on his answer.

Sorry I missed your post.

Bewbies
09-22-2011, 03:26 PM
First year with a rookie QB will be growing pains. In that time the young talent we have gets older. You're not only giving up this year, but next as well and perhaps more.

Fuck me, I thought when we get Berry and Charles back Cassel is going to lead us to the Super Bowl!!?!

The "giving up next year" happened in 2009 when we signed our franchise QB to a $60M deal. We gave up everything until he's gone, regardless of what happens when we actually dump his ass.

Pawnmower
09-22-2011, 03:27 PM
according to your math, Cassel is a great QB

Please show me where I have ever ONCE said he was a great QB. You are a fucking tool who is rooting for the Chiefs to lose on Sunday...Your opinion is fucking worthless.

Donger
09-22-2011, 03:30 PM
First year with a rookie QB will be growing pains. In that time the young talent we have gets older. You're not only giving up this year, but next as well and perhaps more.

Giving up on what?

Pawnmower
09-22-2011, 03:38 PM
Giving up on what?

Giving Up on Talking Can ever actually being able to comprehend words or infer meaning from life.

http://i54.tinypic.com/15nubdy.jpg

BigMeatballDave
09-22-2011, 03:45 PM
First year with a rookie QB will be growing pains. In that time the young talent we have gets older. You're not only giving up this year, but next as well and perhaps more.

Good Christ. This is some serious dumbassery.

BossChief
09-22-2011, 03:49 PM
We will find a way to fuck up Luck...I have no doubt.quit with this "we" shit.

what the fuck else should we talk about?

Surely not what we see on Sundays? That's just downright depressing/not worth talking about.

I'd love to see Dexter total 1800 yards and us go 0-16. That's my goal for the season.they traded Dex to Dallas?

How can your team go 0-16 when they already have a win?

Sucks that you jumped ship right before we draft a real quarterback.

If the Chiefs can't win the division this year, and it sure looks like they can't, it would be sweet if they went into game 15 with an 0-14 record only to have two convincing wins in the final two weeks that kill Oakland and Denver's playoff hopes and still leave the Chiefs with the first pick overall at 2-14. That's my dream scenario, barring an unlikely resurgence.
good post, brah.
Please show me where I have ever ONCE said he was a great QB. You are a fucking tool who is rooting for the Chiefs to lose on Sunday...Your opinion is fucking worthless.

and the little bitch backs away from his stance on Cassel.

Last year, we couldnt go 10 posts on here without Casselsballgargler telling people to apologize to him because of how right he was on our probowl quarterback.

Now, his tune changes with the wind.

convenient.

BossChief
09-22-2011, 03:50 PM
Giving Up on Talking Can ever actually being able to comprehend words or infer meaning from life.

http://i54.tinypic.com/15nubdy.jpg

just more proof of how many gay porn sites this guy goes to daily.

At least 1/3 of his posts have something to do with calling someone gay, but having a pic in it that had to be pulled from a gay porn site.

nttawwt

GordonGekko
09-22-2011, 04:53 PM
We will find a way to **** up Luck...I have no doubt.

Lol, I fully expect the Chiefs to **** up Luck by not even drafting him. That is the confidence I have in Pioli and his ego over being wrong on Cassel (Dead Wrong).

the Talking Can
09-22-2011, 04:57 PM
Please show me where I have ever ONCE said he was a great QB. You are a ****ing tool who is rooting for the Chiefs to lose on Sunday...Your opinion is ****ing worthless.


Pawnsmoker has spent over two years crying to this board about how awesome Cassel is....what a fucking moran



how does one come to terms with such a wasted existence?


seriously....years spent as cassel's fanboi?? embarrassing

Sanka
09-22-2011, 06:28 PM
they traded Dex to Dallas?



Damn, you got my hopes up. I thought Pioli found someone stupid enough to take the dwarf.

BossChief
09-22-2011, 06:33 PM
Pawnsmoker has spent over two years crying to this board about how awesome Cassel is....what a fucking moran



how does one come to terms with such a wasted existence?


seriously....years spent as cassel's fanboi?? embarrassing

mods should make a name change

I[hearticon]Cassel for pawns new username

minimum of 1 year

splatbass
09-22-2011, 07:06 PM
In 40+ years of being a fan of the Chiefs I have never once hoped they would lose. And I never will.

kysirsoze
09-22-2011, 07:10 PM
In 40+ years of being a fan of the Chiefs I have never once hoped they would lose. And I never will.

Do you write Chevy commercials?

notorious
09-22-2011, 07:10 PM
In 40+ years of being a fan of the Chiefs I have never once hoped they would lose. And I never will.

You edited the post before I quoted it but I still have this question:


Why do winners support losers? Why are we so loyal to a team that is a failure?


I am not breaking your balls, it just doesn't make sense.

Rain Man
09-22-2011, 07:11 PM
As an aside, we're still undefeated within the division.

kysirsoze
09-22-2011, 07:12 PM
As an aside, we're still undefeated within the division.

Did Kurt hijack Rain Man's account?

Rain Man
09-22-2011, 07:14 PM
Did Kurt hijack Rain Man's account?

Did you know that Jamaal Charles averaged 6.9 yards per carry in the 2011 season? That's a big win.

splatbass
09-22-2011, 07:17 PM
You edited the post before I quoted it but I still have this question:


Why do winners support losers? Why are we so loyal to a team that is a failure?


I am not breaking your balls, it just doesn't make sense.

You don't become a winner having a losing attitude. You guys talk about a franchise QB. I bet Peyton Manning never in his life hoped to lose. Neither did Joe Montana. Or Bart Starr. Or any other franchise QB. Winners do not hope to lose.

notorious
09-22-2011, 07:18 PM
Did you know that Jamaal Charles averaged 6.9 yards per carry in the 2011 season? That's a big win.

RainMo.

whoman69
09-22-2011, 07:19 PM
Good Christ. This is some serious dumbassery.

Dumbassery is hoping your team loses. I stand by what I say. If we get Luck its pretty much a given Haley is gone. New system for everyone to get used to again on both sides of the ball. Teams with rookie QBs generally struggle in the first year. Peyton went 3-13 and he's the most successful top pick since Troy Aikman (who won only one game in his first year). You're losing two years at minimum, maybe more to get in contention. Luck is not going to win the Super Bowl in his rookie year any more than Bradford (7 wins), Stafford (2 wins), Russell (1 start), Smith (2-5), Eli Manning (1-6), Palmer (no starts), Carr (4 wins), Vick (1-1), or Couch (2-12) did. Those QB's have one Super Bowl appearance between them, none for the teams that drafted them.

kysirsoze
09-22-2011, 07:19 PM
You don't become a winner having a losing attitude. You guys talk about a franchise QB. I bet Peyton Manning never in his life hoped to lose. Neither did Joe Montana. Or Bart Starr. Or any other franchise QB. Winners do not hope to lose.

Do you play for the Chiefs? I don't therefore my hoping they lose has no effect on their attitude. As I said in another thread. If any of the Chiefs players started trowing games to get Luck or for any other reason, I'd want them cut immediately.

notorious
09-22-2011, 07:22 PM
You don't become a winner having a losing attitude. You guys talk about a franchise QB. I bet Peyton Manning never in his life hoped to lose. Neither did Joe Montana. Or Bart Starr. Or any other franchise QB. Winners do not hope to lose.

They have control of the situation. We have no control.


I fear that KC will continue to pass on a franchise QB unless they are placed in a position where they can not pass. This is the scenario that is developing.

I pray that we do not go into football purgatory again, also known as 8-8 to 10-6 seasons with a retread QB. If so we will never be in a position to draft a truely talented QB.

Rain Man
09-22-2011, 07:27 PM
In Tony Moeaki's absence, Leonard Pope is on pace for career bests in both receptions and yards.

splatbass
09-22-2011, 07:30 PM
Do you play for the Chiefs? I don't therefore my hoping they lose has no effect on their attitude.

LOSING has an effect on their attitude. Teams that lose a lot have a hard time becoming winners. They have the mindset of a losing team. Haley spent his first season getting that attitude out of the team and now you guys want to go right back to it.

I'll say it and you guys can flame all you want. If you want your team to lose then you are a loser.

GloryDayz
09-22-2011, 07:30 PM
I'm an idiot for saying this and feeling this way!!!The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is ****ing stupid. It's ****ing stupid.

FYP

Dr. Facebook Fever
09-22-2011, 07:31 PM
In Tony Moeaki's absence, Leonard Pope is on pace for career bests in both receptions and yards.

Undoomed

Brock
09-22-2011, 07:33 PM
LOSING has an effect on their attitude. Teams that lose a lot have a hard time becoming winners. They have the mindset of a losing team. Haley spent his first season getting that attitude out of the team and now you guys want to go right back to it.

I'll say it and you guys can flame all you want. If you want your team to lose then you are a loser.

The team is going right back to it. We don't have anything to do with it. And my reaction, and I imagine most people's reaction, to you calling people losers over the internet is "so what".

notorious
09-22-2011, 07:33 PM
LOSING has an effect on their attitude. Teams that lose a lot have a hard time becoming winners. They have the mindset of a losing team. Haley spent his first season getting that attitude out of the team and now you guys want to go right back to it.

I'll say it and you guys can flame all you want. If you want your team to lose then you are a loser.

I don't think that anyone truely wants this team to lose, but they are fearful of what I previously posted:




I fear that KC will continue to pass on a franchise QB unless they are placed in a position where they can not pass. This is the scenario that is developing.

I pray that we do not go into football purgatory again, also known as 8-8 to 10-6 seasons with a retread QB. If so we will never be in a position to draft a truely talented QB.

Brock
09-22-2011, 07:35 PM
Dumbassery is hoping your team loses. I stand by what I say. If we get Luck its pretty much a given Haley is gone. New system for everyone to get used to again on both sides of the ball. Teams with rookie QBs generally struggle in the first year. Peyton went 3-13 and he's the most successful top pick since Troy Aikman (who won only one game in his first year). You're losing two years at minimum, maybe more to get in contention. Luck is not going to win the Super Bowl in his rookie year any more than Bradford (7 wins), Stafford (2 wins), Russell (1 start), Smith (2-5), Eli Manning (1-6), Palmer (no starts), Carr (4 wins), Vick (1-1), or Couch (2-12) did. Those QB's have one Super Bowl appearance between them, none for the teams that drafted them.

So, that short term pain for the long term success isn't worth it. Got it.

lostcause
09-22-2011, 07:38 PM
And who'd have thunk it that saying that it's dumb to think the season isn't lost after two games would be such a polarizing statement.

Rain Man
09-22-2011, 07:39 PM
In Eric Berry's absence, Jon McGraw is on pace for 144 tackles.

Dr. Facebook Fever
09-22-2011, 07:39 PM
And who'd have thunk it that saying that it's dumb to think the season isn't lost after two games would be such a polarizing statement.

You're obviously new here.


:D

notorious
09-22-2011, 07:39 PM
In Eric Berry's absence, Jon McGraw is on pace for 144 tackles.

He is going to be a badass on Tecmo Superbowl 2012.

Dr. Facebook Fever
09-22-2011, 07:40 PM
In Eric Berry's absence, Jon McGraw is on pace for 144 tackles.

Double undoomed.

BillSelfsTrophycase
09-22-2011, 08:03 PM
In Eric Berry's absence, Jon McGraw is on pace for 144 tackles.

And 8 Interceptions...

And 8 Fumbles :doh!:

patteeu
09-22-2011, 08:13 PM
In Tony Moeaki's absence, Leonard Pope is on pace for career bests in both receptions and yards.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jon McGraw's tackle totals are headed for career territory too.

notorious
09-22-2011, 08:13 PM
And 8 Interceptions...

And 8 Fumbles :doh!:

That was a killer.


Fuck.


Both games might have ended up a little different if it wasn't for a timely turnover in the 1st quarter.

patteeu
09-22-2011, 08:14 PM
In Eric Berry's absence, Jon McGraw is on pace for 144 tackles.

Nevermind

Stryker
09-22-2011, 08:23 PM
I beg to differ. This site has plenty of heart but, this site currently has no team!

Wake up and smell the coffee pal. Let's see how you feel about this team after this weekend or better yet, I give you till Halloween. Try checking out ESPN on the status of our beloved Chiefs. Point is, it is not just here, it is league wide known. We aren't in the news and media because of our terrific season so far. We are in it because we SUCK!

Keep the faith!

Pawnmower
09-22-2011, 08:49 PM
Pawnsmoker has spent over two years crying to this board about how awesome Cassel is....what a ****ing moran



how does one come to terms with such a wasted existence?


seriously....years spent as cassel's fanboi?? embarrassing

oh i suppose if this is true, you can post some examples of where I say he is awesome then?

If not then gladly shut the fuck up.

You are about to go on my ignore list.....I don't think I have ever used any terms even NEAR that he is awesome.

You are nothing but a fucking liar, and if you don't admit that I didn't say that than I am going to just add you to my ignore list and be done with it.

Fucking lying sack of shit.

Okie_Apparition
09-22-2011, 09:02 PM
THese are grown torso men. THey can do what they want. They just have to have their balls in momma's purse by 10

Rain Man
09-22-2011, 09:15 PM
Nevermind


Good intuition.

Short Leash Hootie
09-22-2011, 09:20 PM
quit with this "we" shit.

they traded Dex to Dallas?

How can your team go 0-16 when they already have a win?

Sucks that you jumped ship right before we draft a real quarterback.


you're a dipshit, dude

If you can't take a little "tongue in cheek" in my posting style by now, I guess you'll just never get it.

Like I really am a Dallas Cowboys fan...freaking moron LMAO

Short Leash Hootie
09-22-2011, 09:21 PM
it's why I spent last Sunday downing 20 beers and screaming at the TV in an all CHIEFS bar in Dallas, Texas...great bar, awesome atmosphere...but the Chiefs fans were all POSITIVE! They did not get behind my "Suck for Luck" chants...

splatbass
09-22-2011, 09:34 PM
I don't think that anyone truely wants this team to lose, but they are fearful of what I previously posted:

There is thread after thread of people wanting this team to lose. Some of them are right here in this thread.

NJChiefsFan
09-22-2011, 09:40 PM
There is thread after thread of people wanting this team to lose. Some of them are right here in this thread.

What a person says right after a loss or hell, during the week, needs to be taken with a grain of salt. After the first play of the game starts this weekend, I really doubt that many posters will actually be rooting AGAINST the Chiefs.

Many will probably watch without much emotion, well, because it has been drained from us. If we lose there will be more Luck talk because it honestly brings us closer to it.

Marcellus
09-22-2011, 09:41 PM
There are people that think this team has sucked for 42 years like the Chiefs didn't have a stretch of 10 years with the 2nd most wins in the NFL (the 90's).

I fully understand we haven't won a SB since IV, as I have been watching for a while but come on people.

kysirsoze
09-22-2011, 09:44 PM
There is thread after thread of people wanting this team to lose. Some of them are right here in this thread.

I think most people's ideal situation would be for us to win now AND draft a franchise QB. The problem is it is much more likely to draft a franchise QB in the early 1st round, especially one as likely to succeed as Andrew Luck. I am rooting for the team long-term. I am rooting for the team to become a team that can do what no other Chiefs team I've ever seen could. Win a fucking Superbowl.

kysirsoze
09-22-2011, 09:47 PM
There are people that think this team has sucked for 42 years like the Chiefs didn't have a stretch of 10 years with the 2nd most wins in the NFL (the 90's).

I fully understand we haven't won a SB since IV, as I have been watching for a while but come on people.

That stretch is more of an argument for needing Luck than Cassel is. Even with those great 90's teams we couldn't even get to the SB much less win it. Add to that the way the game has changed since the 90's and it becomes apparent that we won't go anywhere until we get a franchise quarterback. If we aren't going to win a SB this year, why not root for our best chance to win one in the next 10?

BossChief
09-22-2011, 09:52 PM
you're a dipshit, dude

If you can't take a little "tongue in cheek" in my posting style by now, I guess you'll just never get it.

Like I really am a Dallas Cowboys fan...freaking moron LMAO

sure......Id be saying the same thing if I ever tried to make a change, too.

It definitely wouldn't take.

Welcome back, I guess.

Marcellus
09-22-2011, 09:57 PM
That stretch is more of an argument for needing Luck than Cassel is. Even with those great 90's teams we couldn't even get to the SB much less win it. Add to that the way the game has changed since the 90's and it becomes apparent that we won't go anywhere until we get a franchise quarterback. If we aren't going to win a SB this year, why not root for our best chance to win one in the next 10?

You are arguing a different point. We had the offense to win in 2002 and 2003.

I am all about getting a QB stud. It is a QB league now where it used to be a RB and defense league.

The Chiefs used to be defensive team with bad offense and and became a good offensive team with no defense. (As you all know).

We need a stud QB and decent defense.

People that say this team has sucked for 42 years are wrong, they haven't sucked, they just haven't been good enough in one area.

Until now where we look like shit in all areas including ST.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-22-2011, 10:00 PM
The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is ****ing stupid. It's ****ing stupid.

Oh shut the fuck up. Do you watch the rest of the NFL? Do you see any resemblance between the teams that are perennial Super Bowl contenders and the teams that aren't? This franchise has a golden opportunity to get on the right track next April. I'd gladly sacrifice one season for many successful ones and not just ones that are due to us having a shit schedule and we get by with our mediocre team and shitty QB. If we want Super Bowl titles, we need a franchise QB. Some Chiefs fans are so scared to win it's hilarious.

kysirsoze
09-22-2011, 10:03 PM
You are arguing a different point. We had the offense to win in 2002 and 2003.

I am all about getting a QB stud. It is a QB league now where it used to be a RB and defense league.

The Chiefs used to be defensive team with bad offense and and became a good offensive team with no defense. (As you all know).

We need a stud QB and decent defense.

People that say this team has sucked for 42 years are wrong, they haven't sucked, they just haven't been good enough in one area.

Until now where we look like shit in all areas including ST.

I'm not saying Luck will fix everything. Just the most important thing. I agree with the bolded part. The problem is that every season since Superbowl IV has ended in disappointment. I can't look back on a single game, no matter how great, without there being a small twinge of sadness at how that season ended. I'm not a generally negative guy, but it tends to cast a shadow on even the best Chiefs memories.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-22-2011, 10:05 PM
I'm not saying Luck will fix everything. Just the most important thing. I agree with the bolded part. The problem is that every season since Superbowl IV has ended in disappointment. I can't look back on a single game, no matter how great, without there being a small twinge of sadness at how that season ended. I'm not a generally negative guy, but it tends to cast a shadow on even the best Chiefs memories.

Only one team doesn't suck at the end of the year, and that's the Super Bowl champion.

Aries Walker
09-22-2011, 10:06 PM
I thought we were doing pretty well with Trent Green, until that caveman from Cincinnati took him out. I did, however, realize mid-last-year that Cassell was too inconsistent to be our QBotF (and I got a bit criticized here for saying that, by the way). I think that monstrous deal we handed him was a big mistake in retrospect, and now we're stuck with a backup QB at franchise prices.

This season sucks, but it's still the beginning, but it really sucks. Personally, it's too early for me to throw in the towel, but I can't begrudge other people from doing exactly that, and even thinking it might be better if we lost out and grabbed Luck. I certainly wouldn't call them only 'professed fans' because of it.

Marcellus
09-22-2011, 10:09 PM
I'm not saying Luck will fix everything. Just the most important thing. I agree with the bolded part. The problem is that every season since Superbowl IV has ended in disappointment. I can't look back on a single game, no matter how great, without there being a small twinge of sadness at how that season ended. I'm not a generally negative guy, but it tends to cast a shadow on even the best Chiefs memories.

I have lived the same ending you have every year.


It sucks. 1993 was crushing. 1995 suckd ass, 1997 I punched a hole in the wall. 1999 last game of the season I went bezerk. 2003 I was just pissed to hell.

2010 I was let down. Huge.

But to say they sucked? No.

If your team gets you to extra games, you need to appreciate that to some extent.

I want a SB as much as anyone. I plan to go if it happens regardless of cost. But to dismiss the team as suck for 42 years. No. I won't do that.

Short Leash Hootie
09-22-2011, 10:28 PM
sure......Id be saying the same thing if I ever tried to make a change, too.

It definitely wouldn't take.

Welcome back, I guess.

dude I don't care if it takes

if everyone on this site wants to think I'm a Cowboys fan...go right ahead

don't care what anyone thinks of me or my Chiefs loyalty

kysirsoze
09-22-2011, 10:43 PM
I want a SB as much as anyone. I plan to go if it happens regardless of cost. But to dismiss the team as suck for 42 years. No. I won't do that.

I guess I haven't seen a lot of that sentiment. Just that anything less than a SB is a disappointment. Perhaps I have been arguing the wrong point because we have definitely had some great teams.

Psyko Tek
09-23-2011, 12:39 AM
The Chiefs have been abysmal for the first two games this season, that is inescapable. But it is cataclysmic how two games have turned so many people that are professed fans to say that our only hope now lies in losing out this season to grab a college quarter back. The realities of the season are that we don't have berry, moeaki or charles. However, we are only a game out of first place. If the bleeding can be mended and the coaching staff can get decent play from the safeties and DMc shows up as that second round draft pick we've all bitched about - then this season can be saved. To talk about tanking a season or even rooting for it after 2 games to get a college kid is fucking stupid. It's fucking stupid.

fuck you n00b
I hope this is a repost
he chargers need fans

lostcause
09-23-2011, 01:51 AM
Oh shut the **** up. Do you watch the rest of the NFL? Do you see any resemblance between the teams that are perennial Super Bowl contenders and the teams that aren't? This franchise has a golden opportunity to get on the right track next April. I'd gladly sacrifice one season for many successful ones and not just ones that are due to us having a shit schedule and we get by with our mediocre team and shitty QB. If we want Super Bowl titles, we need a franchise QB. Some Chiefs fans are so scared to win it's hilarious.

You're a retodd.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 01:51 AM
**** you n00b
I hope this is a repost
he chargers need fans

fuck you old queer. you need a raider dick in your ass.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 01:53 AM
It's not stupid, your face is stupid!

your face is stupid.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 01:54 AM
How is this working out for ya...?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=7904114&postcount=67


Dumbass.

Not well - and you are a complete fuckwad who sucks at life, but thats ok.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 01:54 AM
You're right. We have no heart. We have a brain.

No, you are a CP lemming. Very different.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 01:57 AM
Lost, you have to be realistic here:

For starters, nobody expected this team to be much better than .500 this season. This is a brutal schedule against some very good football teams. A couple of breaks here and there, and we may have won 10 games. But realistically, this was an 8-8 team with every one of its starters playing.

Now, we've lost three crucial starters for the season. And that doesn't include the other injuries, including our first-round draft pick. Our chances of an 8-8 season greatly diminishes. Our chances of even winning 10 games would be a miracle of religious proportions.

With the injuries we have endured combined with the relentless schedule and the poor play of just about everyone on the team, this team at BEST, can win 3 or 4 games.

So, think about that come the April draft. Those 3 games we won just killed our chance of scoring a future QB with outstanding potential to lead our team out of the doldrums for many years to come. Instead, we draft another DT with our first pick and Luck goes to Indianapolis where he continues their epic dynasty and the Chiefs are forever mired in good seasons and bad.

Would you want 3 wins this season and miss out on your potential Hall-of-Fame QB?

Or do you want 0 wins and a chance at a future dynasty?

Think about that the next time you want the Chiefs to win just one of its' three games this season.

Nobody feels good about rooting to lose. But this season is different. This season, rooting to lose comes with epic rewards!! Something you'll feel good about for many years to come.

Cosmic, I understand that the math makes sense. I get it. If we end up in a position to draft luck, I am loving that we have him. The point is on giving up on this season after 2 games is horrendous. That's all

lostcause
09-23-2011, 01:59 AM
Everyone's jumping ship for good reasons because everyone's anxiety about this team actually started last yr when we got blew out by Oakland and then on by Balt in the playoffs only to continue this year. Everyone's anxiety was heightened even more by this pre-season play only to be confirmed with this 0-2 start with a tough ass schedule to boot with the ACL bug in full form.

Get it now?

Thank you, I git it. I watched all of these games. Don't you think that 2 games into a 16 game season is just a little early to jump ship? I mean, we can at least wait till we're 0-6 before sucking for luck. Why do we have to run with it now?

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:00 AM
Let me guess, lostcause also thinks we should draft a tackle in the first.....

A tackle sure wouldn't hurt this fuckin oline.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:00 AM
Planet...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSY-spb-zKW3g2lf45ZuvFr8_othrIq_EHksFHMom0Sc42kssltof8xMMJt5A

Otter - you have just nailed it. Thank you.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:02 AM
If this guy wants all sunshine and rainbows, go post on Arrowhead Pride.
Double Plus Ungood thought is not allowed there.

If you count pre-season, this team has lost eight straight. That's not good, no matter how you slice it.

Todd Haley just gave you the finger.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:03 AM
What inspired your username, lostcause?

I wanted uncreative morons to be able to flame me.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:04 AM
If we're the cowardly lion, 'lostcause' is the scarecrow.

And a damn good looking mother fucking scarecrow at that, sir.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:06 AM
What a noob.... LMAO

you sir, are a noob. look at you, noob suit, noob tie. i would be apologetic to show up to work as you. i forgive you.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:06 AM
I agree with you.

Thank you.

BossChief
09-23-2011, 02:09 AM
SFL is more of a defense mechanism.

Its not like anything we say here has a serious impact into wins and losses.

Its sucks that has to be spelled out for you...but as your name indicates....

SPchief
09-23-2011, 02:10 AM
Welcome back Kotter

BossChief
09-23-2011, 02:11 AM
And for fucks sake, use the +" icon next to the Quote button...making a stream of posts one after the other instead of using a feature that is easy to use makes you look like a bigger morAn.

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:12 AM
SFL is more of a defense mechanism.

Its not like anything we say here has a serious impact into wins and losses.

Its sucks that has to be spelled out for you...but as your name indicates....

thank you for admitting it, now i feel bad

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:13 AM
And for ****s sake, use the +" icon next to the Quote button...making a stream of posts one after the other instead of using a feature that is easy to use makes you look like a bigger morAn.

there was a lot of posts to respond to.

BossChief
09-23-2011, 02:17 AM
there were a lot of posts to respond to.

and ffs, take a damn English class.

In the future, as you are reading the thread, hit the +" button next to all of the posts you want to respond to and after you have them all clicked, hit the +post reply button and it will bring all those posts into the window for you so you can do it all in one post and not have a bunch of dumbshit posts one after another.

Now, wipe the drool off your chin and get with the fucking program, son.

SFL

lostcause
09-23-2011, 02:21 AM
and ffs, take a damn English class.

In the future, as you are reading the thread, hit the +" button next to all of the posts you want to respond to and after you have them all clicked, hit the +post reply button and it will bring all those posts into the window for you so you can do it all in one post and not have a bunch of dumbshit posts one after another.

Now, wipe the drool off your chin and get with the ****ing program, son.

SFL

thank you for the heads up. and thanks for being a condescending prick asshole at the same time. fuck you and your program and have a good night.

BossChief
09-23-2011, 02:24 AM
no prob

patteeu
09-23-2011, 06:19 AM
I think that monstrous deal we handed him was a big mistake in retrospect, and now we're stuck with a backup QB at franchise prices.

We may be stuck with him for the rest of this year, but it's not because of his price tag, it's just because it's too late to make a change (other than going to Palko or a late-round rookie who didn't even have a full off-season). Cassel's contract was really only an issue the first couple of years.

LVNHACK
09-23-2011, 09:47 AM
The odds of you growing a brain are even smaller.

Have fun in The Matt Cassel Unicorns and Rainbows fantasy land.


LMAO