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SPchief
09-23-2011, 06:04 PM
Chen on the mound. Lets close this season out with 6 in a row!

SPchief
09-23-2011, 06:07 PM
Over/Under on how many times Ozzie gets pissed off this weekend and cries like a girl: 2.5

stonedstooge
09-23-2011, 06:08 PM
Wow talking it might be Ozzie's last year.

SPchief
09-23-2011, 06:09 PM
Lorenzo Cain makes his debut tonight

SPchief
09-23-2011, 06:10 PM
Leading off in fact

stonedstooge
09-23-2011, 06:11 PM
Going to show him off before they trade him

SPchief
09-23-2011, 06:18 PM
Hos

SPchief
09-23-2011, 06:25 PM
ROY crushes one to right center for his 19th homer of the year

stonedstooge
09-23-2011, 06:28 PM
Some guy on SportsCenter was talking about some other dudes he thought would be ROY. Never even mentioned Hosmer

stonedstooge
09-23-2011, 07:00 PM
Royals on a roll again tonight. 6 zip in the top of the fourth

doomy3
09-23-2011, 07:02 PM
Dropping bombs.

tk13
09-23-2011, 07:02 PM
Salvador Perez can't be this good. Right?

stonedstooge
09-23-2011, 07:03 PM
Escobar finally hits one solid with that big swing he still has

doomy3
09-23-2011, 07:04 PM
Salvador Perez can't be this good. Right?

That's what I keep telling myself.

Great Expectations
09-23-2011, 07:15 PM
That's what I keep telling myself.

Me too, but he keeps looking better.

doomy3
09-23-2011, 07:16 PM
LMAO

This is awesome.

20 bombs for Frenchy.

Priest31kc
09-23-2011, 07:18 PM
Cant wait for April.

Royals, plus the Chiefs could finally be drafting a franchise QB.

Three7s
09-23-2011, 07:19 PM
Man, for the first time in a decade, I can finally say the Royals are going to be raping if we get some decent starting pitching.

doomy3
09-23-2011, 07:19 PM
Why do the fans keep chanting "Larry, Larry..."?

tk13
09-23-2011, 07:27 PM
Francoeur is the fourth player in Royals history to make the 20/20 club. The other three are Amos Otis, Bo Jackson, and Carlos Beltran.

stonedstooge
09-23-2011, 07:34 PM
Chen with a shutout through 5

Mr. Laz
09-23-2011, 07:35 PM
whipping dat jizzsox azz


:clap:


i hope this launches this young lineup to success that carries over to next year.

thurman merman
09-23-2011, 08:19 PM
Royals > Cassel

stonedstooge
09-23-2011, 08:33 PM
Royals win a laugher 11-1

SPchief
09-23-2011, 08:34 PM
11 runs on 18 hits when it's 50 degrees outside. Nice

SPchief
09-23-2011, 08:35 PM
And this was without Gordon. This lineup is gonna be deadly next year

SPchief
09-23-2011, 08:35 PM
Salvador Perez can't be this good. Right?

I keep thinking that at some point he has to regress at least a little, but he isn't yet.

CoMoChief
09-23-2011, 08:39 PM
The Royals are playing better.....but they always play well in Sept.

Hopefully this is a sign for things to come, but this team desperately needs starting pitching and that is what ultimately wins you ballgames and eventually division titles, that being said I will wait til next spring and see if they continue to play well. Also still things this team needs a little bit more power....maybe that will come next season.

thurman merman
09-23-2011, 08:49 PM
11 runs on 18 hits when it's 50 degrees outside. Nice

Isn't this the same pitcher who almost threw a no-hitter against them a few weeks ago?

thurman merman
09-23-2011, 08:50 PM
Vin Mazzaro has his ERA down to 8.88.

Deberg_1990
09-23-2011, 08:52 PM
The Royals are playing better.....but they always play well in Sept.

Hopefully this is a sign for things to come, but this team desperately needs starting pitching and that is what ultimately wins you ballgames and eventually division titles, that being said I will wait til next spring and see if they continue to play well. Also still things this team needs a little bit more power....maybe that will come next season.

This team has got to learn how to stay competetive in May-Aug. At least play .500 ball and not fall so far behind. They nearly always lag in the summer months.

stonedstooge
09-23-2011, 08:54 PM
This team has got to learn how to stay competetive in May-Aug. At least play .500 ball and not fall so far behind. They nearly always lag in the summer months.

I'd be disappointed to say the least if this isn't taken care of next year

tk13
09-23-2011, 08:56 PM
Lost in the explosion was that Moose had his first career 4-hit game as well.

Deberg_1990
09-23-2011, 08:59 PM
I'd be disappointed to say the least if this isn't taken care of next year

Well, its easy to sit here in Sept and say....The Royals will fix this in the offseason, they will just get pitching.....reality is a different thing. Pitchers have to WANT to come to KC, the money has to be right, etc....etc......DM could do all the right things and pitchers could still turn him down.

stonedstooge
09-23-2011, 09:02 PM
Well, its easy to sit here in Sept and say....The Royals will fix this in the offseason, they will just get pitching.....reality is a different thing. Pitchers have to WANT to come to KC, the money has to be right, etc....etc......DM could do all the right things and pitchers could still turn him down.

Yeah I know. This next offseason will decide if this is going to be a competitive team or not. If Glass doesn't go for it now, he never will

Short Leash Hootie
09-23-2011, 09:05 PM
6 years and 80 million for C.J. Wilson

tk13
09-23-2011, 09:07 PM
We don't necessarily have to do it through free agency. Although seeing what this offense has done since we brought the young guys up certainly has to make the Royals more attractive than they were about 3 months ago. Even for the season as a whole, this offense is 2nd in doubles, first in triples, and 5th in the AL in OPS, only trailing the Yankees/Red Sox/Tigers/Rangers, which just happen to be the four teams that will probably make the playoffs. And literally the entire offense is on the right side of 30.

But very likely we'll have a better shot through trades. Every baseball guy in America seems to think the Royals are going to be extremely aggressive in the trade market. Buster Olney tweeted the other day that the Royals already have the Rays on speed dial. There might be a chance to take advantage of someone looking to dump payroll.

Deberg_1990
09-23-2011, 09:25 PM
We don't necessarily have to do it through free agency. Although seeing what this offense has done since we brought the young guys up certainly has to make the Royals more attractive than they were about 3 months ago. Even for the season as a whole, this offense is 2nd in doubles, first in triples, and 5th in the AL in OPS, only trailing the Yankees/Red Sox/Tigers/Rangers, which just happen to be the four teams that will probably make the playoffs. And literally the entire offense is on the right side of 30.

But very likely we'll have a better shot through trades. Every baseball guy in America seems to think the Royals are going to be extremely aggressive in the trade market. Buster Olney tweeted the other day that the Royals already have the Rays on speed dial. There might be a chance to take advantage of someone looking to dump payroll.

I hope these "experts" are right....we shall see.....Guess im just jaded after 26 years of misery.

duncan_idaho
09-23-2011, 09:30 PM
I don't think we're going to see big free agent spending by the Royals. The upcoming FA market is pretty weak on starting pitching, and it's hard to justify spending big on a position player (where's he going to go? 2B?). The best guys out there are Nick Swisher and Jose Reyes, neither of whom is really a fit.

Among the pitchers, the best guys are Edwin Jackson and C.J. Wilson. I don't think Wilson is realistic or likely. Jackson is someone who might fit in OK. And then the best of the rest includes some high-risk, high-reward guys like Erik Bedard, Rich Harden, or even Jonathan Sanchez (it sounds like the Giants might release him).

I think you will see: A big financial commitment to Gordon, and an attempt to make to Hosmer (we'll see if Boras plays ball).

And I think you'll see the Royals make a move for a starting pitcher through a trade. I'm not sure I like the idea of trading with Andrew Friedman, but James Shields would be a really nice fit.

I'm not sure Mike Montgomery makes sense as a trade target for the Rays, as they have too much young, MLB-ready pitching. If you can do that deal without targeting Wil Myers (who, it should be noted, outpeformed Hosmer at Wilmington a year ago), that would be incredible.

Something like Odorizzi, Chris Dwyer, David Lough and Clint Robinson might get that done.

Short Leash Hootie
09-23-2011, 09:42 PM
First off, we need a leadoff hitter...Alex Gordon needs to be hitting 2nd, 3rd or 5th.

Can Melky and Frenchy replicate these seasons? I honestly doubt it...

but my God, right now the Royals are STACKED on offense 1-7 with a ton of potential still in the wings...

Gordon 2
Hosmer 3
Moustakas 4
Butler 5


That's top tier.

Shogun
09-23-2011, 09:52 PM
I'd like to see us work Montgomery in the lineup and maybe see what Mendoza or Ozorizzi can do next year, next offseason is gonna be full of pitchers

duncan_idaho
09-23-2011, 09:53 PM
First off, we need a leadoff hitter...Alex Gordon needs to be hitting 2nd, 3rd or 5th.

Can Melky and Frenchy replicate these seasons? I honestly doubt it...

but my God, right now the Royals are STACKED on offense 1-7 with a ton of potential still in the wings...

Gordon 2
Hosmer 3
Moustakas 4
Butler 5


That's top tier.

I've toyed with the idea of Jose Reyes being signed and converted to 2B, which would give you another option at the top of the lineup (at least for 100 games a year, haha).

Hard for a team like the Royals to make that sort of risky commitment, though.

He's really the only quality leadoff hitter type available in FA. Anything else would have to be acquired via trade,
IMO.

BWillie
09-23-2011, 11:03 PM
First off, we need a leadoff hitter...Alex Gordon needs to be hitting 2nd, 3rd or 5th.

Can Melky and Frenchy replicate these seasons? I honestly doubt it...

but my God, right now the Royals are STACKED on offense 1-7 with a ton of potential still in the wings...

Gordon 2
Hosmer 3
Moustakas 4
Butler 5


That's top tier.

A 4 hitter that can't hit home runs? Hosmer or bust man at the 4 IMO. If any of those guys get better...holy shit, and for most of them it's possible. Melky could be just developing into what he is at 26-27, Francouer might have learned to harness his on the cover of sports illustrated ability, Gio will walk eventually like at AAA, Moose might get comfortable and hit some homers. If anybody goes backwards alot it'll be Perez, just due to his low sample size. That or Melky, he just hacks away sometimes.

1-Giaviotella .282/.345/12 HR
2 - Gordon .295/.372/26 HR
3 - Butler .310/.380/22 HR
4 - Hosmer .317/.372/32 HR (Albert f***** Pujols #2)
5 - Cabrera .289/.330/15 HR
6 - Francouer .275/.327/24 HR
7 - Moustakas .260/.313/20 HR
8 - Perez .275/.315/14 HR
9 - Escobar .265/.310/7 HR

Felipe Paulino 4.37 ERA
Luke Hochevar 4.47 ERA
Bruce Chen 4.67 ERA
Danny Duffy 4.72 ERA
Crow/Holland/Montgomery 4.7 ERA

SPchief
09-23-2011, 11:07 PM
Um, if its the same 9 guys next year which we're expecting, the lineup aint changing much.

thurman merman
09-24-2011, 10:33 AM
A 4 hitter that can't hit home runs? Hosmer or bust man at the 4 IMO. If any of those guys get better...holy shit, and for most of them it's possible. Melky could be just developing into what he is at 26-27, Francouer might have learned to harness his on the cover of sports illustrated ability, Gio will walk eventually like at AAA, Moose might get comfortable and hit some homers. If anybody goes backwards alot it'll be Perez, just due to his low sample size. That or Melky, he just hacks away sometimes.

1-Giaviotella .282/.345/12 HR
2 - Gordon .295/.372/26 HR
3 - Butler .310/.380/22 HR
4 - Hosmer .317/.372/32 HR (Albert f***** Pujols #2)
5 - Cabrera .289/.330/15 HR
6 - Francouer .275/.327/24 HR
7 - Moustakas .260/.313/20 HR
8 - Perez .275/.315/14 HR
9 - Escobar .265/.310/7 HR

Felipe Paulino 4.37 ERA
Luke Hochevar 4.47 ERA
Bruce Chen 4.67 ERA
Danny Duffy 4.72 ERA
Crow/Holland/Montgomery 4.7 ERA

Where are you getting these future stats? Link?

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2011, 10:38 AM
he's on crack

Hosmer is great, but he'll never be Albert Pujols.

And I'll be willing to bet Moustakas hits more HR's next year than Hosmer.

BWillie
09-24-2011, 11:01 AM
he's on crack

Hosmer is great, but he'll never be Albert Pujols.

And I'll be willing to bet Moustakas hits more HR's next year than Hosmer.

Are you serious? This isn't AA or AAA anymore. Hosmer is the face of this franchise, and he will hit maybe even double the HR's Moose hits next year. Hosmer is that good. Pujols is the high end for sure, but anything is possible with the kid. Moose is looking better, but he's got a long way to go.

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2011, 11:04 AM
you're judging that by one huge slump by Moose?

I love Hosmer as a guy who will put up Sweeney like numbers...a lot of doubles, 25 HR's, high batting average...

Moose is the .280 guy who can hit 40 bombs...

I'm still waiting for that fatass Butler to develop his double power into HR power like everyone suggested though so who knows.

...and Gordon still has room to grow, I'm just glad he finally produced on the major league level this year.

BWillie
09-24-2011, 11:29 AM
you're judging that by one huge slump by Moose?

I love Hosmer as a guy who will put up Sweeney like numbers...a lot of doubles, 25 HR's, high batting average...

Moose is the .280 guy who can hit 40 bombs...

I'm still waiting for that fatass Butler to develop his double power into HR power like everyone suggested though so who knows.

...and Gordon still has room to grow, I'm just glad he finally produced on the major league level this year.

I see Moose as a Jose Guillen type of hitter. I don't quite understand why you think Hosmer could only top out at 25 HR, when he's hit almost that many this year and he'll get much more AB's in the coming years. Hosmer has a good frame, powerful swing, and can hit HRs to any area of the park.

tk13
09-24-2011, 11:46 AM
Hosmer's definitely played like a .330/30/100 guy the last two months. Will it carry over? We'll see. I'm sure there will be guys in this group of young players that have the typical sophomore slump. Hopefully it's not him.

BigMeatballDave
09-24-2011, 02:30 PM
you're judging that by one huge slump by Moose?

I love Hosmer as a guy who will put up Sweeney like numbers...a lot of doubles, 25 HR's, high batting average...

Moose is the .280 guy who can hit 40 bombs...

I'm still waiting for that fatass Butler to develop his double power into HR power like everyone suggested though so who knows.

...and Gordon still has room to grow, I'm just glad he finally produced on the major league level this year.Sweeney numbers? I think Hos could be a .330/35-40/120 guy. Stud.

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2011, 03:18 PM
I hope I'm wrong...

and what's wrong with Sweeney numbers? Before Sweeney got hurt, he was freaking NAILS.

In 2000, these were his numbers:

105/29/144
.333/.407/.930

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2011, 03:19 PM
If Hosmer can put up healthy Sweeney numbers, he's a flat out stud. The fact he's already doing it at age 21 is ridiculous.

Can he develop to be a 40 HR guy? 40 HR's is a lot now. A WHOLE LOT. This isn't steroid baseball anymore...how many guys are still hitting 40 these days? Shit Matt Kemp is 1 off the triple crown and I think he has 36 over in the NL...

Isn't that crazy? How much the juice really effected baseball?

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2011, 03:23 PM
only 2 guys have 40 HR's this year...and 1 of them was accused of cheating (Bautista)...and since the accusation, he's been stone cold in terms of hitting bombs.

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2011, 03:25 PM
and the other guy? Curtis Granderson.

I'm not saying Hosmer can't hit 40...but I don't think that's the type of hitter he WANTS to be...the best HR hitters in the league this year were probably Bautista (swings for the fence every time), Granderson (ditto), Mike Stanton (ditto), Albert Pujols (complete player), and Josh Hamilton (complete player)...

Can Hosmer have a year where he hits 40? I bet he might hit 40 once or twice...but I really think he's more of an extra base hitter rather than a pure HR hitter...

If he racks in 100/30/120 seasons with .315-.330 I think we'll all be ok with that.

BWillie
09-24-2011, 03:34 PM
If Hosmer can put up healthy Sweeney numbers, he's a flat out stud. The fact he's already doing it at age 21 is ridiculous.

Can he develop to be a 40 HR guy? 40 HR's is a lot now. A WHOLE LOT. This isn't steroid baseball anymore...how many guys are still hitting 40 these days? Shit Matt Kemp is 1 off the triple crown and I think he has 36 over in the NL...

Isn't that crazy? How much the juice really effected baseball?

Don't worry, I Fed Ex'd some HGH and Winstrol to Moustakas and Hosmer 4 weeks ago. Your welcome Royals Fans.

KCUnited
09-24-2011, 03:37 PM
Seitz will turn Moose into a singles hitter.

Deberg_1990
09-24-2011, 03:58 PM
Moose certainly looks like a boom or bust type of player. Who knows? Look how long it took Alex Gordon to come around.

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2011, 04:00 PM
the book on Moose was he's very, very streaky.

He started out the minors this year just like he did with the Royals...

Terrible.

But now that he's hitting the ball, he's fucking hitting the ball...11 game hitting streak, 21-46 (.457) over that stretch.

Shit, he's hitting .260 now...even after his wretched two month start to his career.

Dr. Facebook Fever
09-24-2011, 04:36 PM
Moose has started slow at every level since high school, this is nothing new for him.

BillSelfsTrophycase
09-24-2011, 04:37 PM
Moose has the record for the most high school home runs in the entire state of Cali


His power will come around

SnakeXJones
09-24-2011, 04:41 PM
I hope I'm wrong...

and what's wrong with Sweeney numbers? Before Sweeney got hurt, he was freaking NAILS.

In 2000, these were his numbers:

105/29/144
.333/.407/.930I think your comparison is wrong cause Hosmer reminds me of Votto and not Sweeney

Short Leash Hootie
09-24-2011, 04:43 PM
I think your comparison is wrong cause Hosmer reminds me of Votto and not Sweeney

lol

I never said Hosmer reminded me of Sweeney...

but you know who also puts up Sweeney numbers every year?

Joey Votto

KChiefs1
09-24-2011, 07:33 PM
Moose will be fine.