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Count Zarth
09-24-2011, 11:43 PM
Fuck you guys. LOSE.

Chiefs pledge not to fall into the abyss

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/24/3164995/chiefs-pledge-not-to-fall-into.html

Some of the Chiefs players recognized the feeling after the team’s first loss, a blowout at Arrowhead Stadium against the Buffalo Bills two weeks ago. It was something familiar but bitter, and they began working quickly to curb it.

Before the 2010 season, when the Chiefs finished 10-6 and won their division, the team spent three years mired in a funk that seemed never-ending. Losses piled up. Injuries mounted. They lost 38 of 48 games throughout the 2007-09 seasons, and the attitude in the locker room soured accordingly. After a while, some of the players lost faith that they even had a chance to win.

During those three seasons, the attitude stretched beyond the team’s headquarters. Kansas City was a bitter place on Sundays, and attendance at Arrowhead showed it.

“Nobody wants to lose,” cornerback Brandon Carr said, “and go into a game thinking you’re going to lose.”

Now, after two historically lopsided losses to begin this season — the Chiefs were outscored 89-10 in those defeats — the players who lived through those three miserable years are determined to avoid a slide back toward the NFL’s abyss.

They want nothing to do with resembling, as some of them put it, the “old Chiefs.”

“We’ve been there,” said cornerback Brandon Flowers, who was a rookie in 2008, when the Chiefs went 2-14. “This team has faced two-win seasons, four-win seasons. It’s easy to be like, ‘Here we go again,’ when something happens wrong.”

A moment later, Flowers shook his head. He has been down this path.

“Terrible,” he said of his first two seasons, when the Chiefs won a combined six games. “That’s how these first two games started off. That’s why we were saying we can’t allow that to happen no more. The leaders on this team stepped up; we won’t allow that to happen no more.”

Flowers’ instincts aren’t wrong, and he’s among those trying to prevent a relapse. There already are signs the season is headed in a disappointing direction, and some early statistics suggest the Chiefs are on pace to be similar or worse than even those teams that comprised the worst three-season stretch in franchise history. Among those are points allowed and turnovers.

But here is the stat that says it all: The 79-point differential between the Chiefs and their opponents is nearly twice that of the franchise with the next-highest loss margin, the Miami Dolphins, who have lost their two games by a total of 40 points.

That’s bad enough to make it into Jay Leno’s monologue.

“Well, here’s something frightening,” Leno, host of “The Tonight Show,” chortled on Wednesday. “Scientists from NASA have said a research satellite the size of a bus will crash into the Earth on Friday. They say they have no idea where it will land, although they say it has better odds of landing in the end zone than the Kansas City Chiefs.”

“We’re letting a lot of people down, man,” second-year defensive back Javier Arenas said.

Fans’ attitudes seem to have soured, too. According to the secondary ticket-price aggregator TiqIQ.com, the average price to attend a Chiefs home game has dropped 5.3 percent — that’s the second-highest decrease, behind only the Indianapolis Colts — after the team’s first two regular-season games. Fears have risen that Chiefs will struggle to fill Arrowhead, along with concerns that games could be blacked out on local television — something that, before a 2009 game, hadn’t happened in 19 seasons.

So the week after the Chiefs’ 41-7 loss to the Bills, Flowers approached several of his teammates, most of them veterans, and told them to lean on youngsters and make certain their attitudes didn’t sink if the season continued taking on water. Others began talking about positive thinking, even if the rewards seemed far away — for players and fans.

“You never want to disrespect the game,” said linebacker Derrick Johnson, sharing a message he learned as one of six current players who were with the Chiefs for all three of those losing seasons.

Andrew Jacobs, a sports psychologist based in Overland Park, said teams that believe they’re going to lose probably will. He said that’s the first thing the Chiefs have to prevent, adding that it starts with each player believing that this is an isolated rough patch — not part of a new trend of losing.

“Your mind-set dictates what happens,” he said. “… You have to have a plan. You have to have a game plan with how you’re going to deal with this.”

The Chiefs, along with every other team, were denied their usual offseason bonding period because of the NFL lockout, under which franchise owners prohibited players from using team facilities. That’s usually the first rung on the social ladder for new players. Carr said the lockout seems to have affected the Chiefs significantly, adding that miscommunication played a role in last Sunday’s 48-3 loss to the Detroit Lions.

That the Chiefs have lost three key starters — running back Jamaal Charles, safety Eric Berry and tight end Tony Moeaki each suffered season-ending knee injuries in the past three weeks — only adds to the uphill climb they face this season.

This week, the team simplified practices and the playbook in an effort to reduce confusion and build confidence. The changes weren’t limited to the field.

Carr insisted to several of his teammates that they join him socially, whether it was at a restaurant, one of their homes or in the team’s film room. He said he had dinner with a group of teammates three times this past week, an effort to forget the troubles of work and simply get to know each other better.

The players on those bygone teams that lost so much, Carr said, had little chemistry and were poor communicators as a result.

“We’ve tightened up,” Carr said. “We’ve tightened our circle up as far as teammates, as far as guys just getting out and hanging with each other — just to kick it off the field — because that goes a long way on the field.”

The situation is certainly urgent. The Chiefs play the high-powered Chargers today in San Diego.

“The main thing, man: We’ve got to do whatever we can to get this damn victory,” fullback Le’Ron McClain said.

Many of those who lived through the Chiefs’ more discouraging seasons have either moved on or been shown the door. The team’s decision-makers suggest that the poor attitude years ago originated with a few cantankerous players, and the roster has mostly been cleansed of such trouble.

Of the 53 members of the team’s active roster, 29 never experienced the turmoil of any of those three losing seasons.

Some of the youngsters say there’s no way they’d let their attitudes dip so much that it would affect the team long-term. The veterans say they used to say the same things.

“I think in our minds, we did have a chance to win,” Johnson said of the old days. “Now, if we got down by a certain amount of points, I can’t tell you the confidence we had then. All the letdowns we’ve had, I don’t know.”

For now, players hang onto the fact that it’s still early in the season; there are 14 games left, and if the Chiefs begin winning, who might remember those first two Sundays?

“But the thing about it is,” McClain said, “we’ve got to get out there on the field and show it. … We’ve got to get that mind-set, man. That mind-set of winning.”

Jacobs said the Chiefs seem to be taking the proper actions. But further losing, of course, will add to their problem.

“As awful as they’ve been,” Jacobs said, “it’s been two games. The NFL is about adjustments and change and corrections, and yeah, they’ve lost three of their better players, and they’re under the eight-ball.

“All that means is, they’ve got to focus and refocus on themselves and what they have control over. If they can take charge of that, they have a chance to overcome that. But if not, they’re just going to fall into that abyss, and they won’t get out of it.”

Trevo_410
09-24-2011, 11:44 PM
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KCtotheSB
09-24-2011, 11:49 PM
Were they wearing "Suck for Luck" T-shirts when being quoted?

This is important.

Ace Gunner
09-24-2011, 11:51 PM
that's cool, what Carr was saying about gellin with teammates.

Count Zarth
09-24-2011, 11:52 PM
No... You can't get away... From hell's heart I stab at thee...

For Cassel hate's sake... I spit my last
breath at thee!

http://i52.tinypic.com/6t0gat.jpg

Predarat
09-24-2011, 11:52 PM
Hell if they can come up with a few fucking plays that gain positive yards or not thrown to the other fucking team that will be a fucking improvment!

Tribal Warfare
09-24-2011, 11:52 PM
They can say this shit all they want, but we've seen what they've done on the field. They're having their own pity circlejerk.

BigMeatballDave
09-25-2011, 12:12 AM
Its ok. Cassel will be completely ineffective early on, then start throwing downfield. INTs will ensue, thus deflating team morale...

Von Dumbass
09-25-2011, 12:23 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.

KcMizzou
09-25-2011, 12:25 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.You shut your whore mouth. Shut it!!!

BigMeatballDave
09-25-2011, 12:26 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.Other than Denver, there is no shitty competition this year.

CrazyPhuD
09-25-2011, 12:29 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.

He made the probowl because we played the Broncos twice, the Raiders twice, Cleveland once, SF once, Jacksonville once, Buffalo once, Arizona once, Seattle once and Taint Louis once.

Fruit Ninja
09-25-2011, 12:45 AM
ONly time last year when Matt Cassel played well is when Denver pushed our shit in and Denver went prevent and Cassel made some nice passes. Other then that, dude throws for 150 yards a game lol

Predarat
09-25-2011, 01:00 AM
how the **** can you be ****ing positive about geting your ****ing ass kicked all over the ****ing field? the only ****ing thing positive about that ****ing shit is that you ARE getting your ****ing ass kicked all over the ****ing field!

that is fucking all.

KcMizzou
09-25-2011, 01:02 AM
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Predarat
09-25-2011, 01:04 AM
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That was from back in the fucking days when saturday night live was worth fucking watching!

Count Zarth
09-25-2011, 01:14 AM
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We're good enough, we're smart enough, and gosh darn it, we're the right 53.

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L.A. Chieffan
09-25-2011, 01:28 AM
FUCK YOU CHIEFS FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

Chiefs Pantalones
09-25-2011, 01:32 AM
lol Knowmo wants us to win. The whole division wants us to win. They don't want us picking Luck.

BigMeatballDave
09-25-2011, 01:46 AM
We're good enough, we're smart enough, and gosh darn it, we're the right 53.

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LMAO

L.A. Chieffan
09-25-2011, 01:47 AM
I LIKE HALEY BUT FUCK YOU

BigMeatballDave
09-25-2011, 01:47 AM
lol Knowmo wants us to win. The whole division wants us to win. They don't want us picking Luck.

This kinda makes losing not so terrible. We are untrollable.

Tribal Warfare
09-25-2011, 01:48 AM
lol Knowmo wants us to win. The whole division wants us to win. They don't want us picking Luck.

I know, they can't bear the inevitable future of Luck playing in KC's uniform. :fire:

Chiefs=Good
09-25-2011, 02:03 AM
This kinda makes losing not so terrible. We are untrollable.

How do you troll that which trolls itself?

kcfanXIII
09-25-2011, 02:08 AM
the chiefs offense is like an f1 car. matt cassel is like me driving, where as luck would be more like the stig.

Tuckdaddy
09-25-2011, 02:16 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.

I second that. SHUT THE HELL UP!

milkman
09-25-2011, 04:54 AM
That was from back in the ****ing days when saturday night live was worth ****ing watching!

No it isn't.

SNL has been unwatchable since the days of Chevy Chase, Dan Akroyd and John Belushi.

milkman
09-25-2011, 04:57 AM
“The main thing, man: We’ve got to do whatever we can to get this damn victory,” fullback Le’Ron McClain said

Take the ball away from Matt Cassel.

Lonewolf Ed
09-25-2011, 05:28 AM
I bet the Chargers will take the ball away from Cassel...

milkman
09-25-2011, 05:31 AM
I bet the Chargers will take the ball away from Cassel...

Give away does not equal take away.

the Talking Can
09-25-2011, 05:51 AM
articles about the chiefs rarely mention the QB...it's like they can't even pretend our QB is the leader...

milkman
09-25-2011, 05:54 AM
articles about the chiefs rarely mention the QB...it's like they can't even pretend our QB is the leader...

What?

He's clearly the leader.

How else do you think that we would be the early favorites in the Luck sweepstakes?

Fire Me Boy!
09-25-2011, 06:23 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.

He made the probowl because we played the Broncos twice, the Raiders twice, Cleveland once, SF once, Jacksonville once, Buffalo once, Arizona once, Seattle once and Taint Louis once.

Don't forget someone else dropping out. Cassel was an ALTERNATE.

The Bad Guy
09-25-2011, 06:35 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.

It was cute the first few times you did this, but now it's just reverse trolling.

Yes, he did make it for no reason. Others backed out. Just like will be the case once you ever find a woman to cosumate with. You'll be the 5th option.

JonesCrusher
09-25-2011, 07:04 AM
That was from back in the ****ing days when saturday night live was worth ****ing watching!

You must be an old timer, you probably remember the Chiefs glory days way back when we had Green and Gonzales.

notorious
09-25-2011, 07:30 AM
Stuart Smally is probably a better tackler then some of our players.

Ace Gunner
09-25-2011, 07:36 AM
Stuart Smally is probably a better tackler then some of our players.

he's cetainly a better leader than batboy Cassel.

Bane
09-25-2011, 07:37 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.

Typically that would be the 4th quarter as we're down by 3 scores.Kinda hasn't happened yet there kid.

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-25-2011, 07:40 AM
ONly time last year when Matt Cassel played well is when Denver pushed our shit in and Denver went prevent and Cassel made some nice passes. Other then that, dude throws for 150 yards a game lol

Cassel blows, but this shit is getting ridiculous. Did you not watch the SanFran, Seattle, Arizona, and Tennessee games?

KC Tattoo
09-25-2011, 07:54 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.

Cassel to the pro bowl was a joke!

All he had to do was hand the ball off to JC. The only way we moved the ball down the field was JC. Yea his TD to int was outstanding but he never had yards in the air, he never took a game in his hands for us too win. He never systematically delivered the ball down the field in rythm that defenses couldn't just stop.

We won our games last year on the feet of Jamaal Charles and a defense that played with heart, up untill the playoffs.

Cassel doesn't have the moxy to be a leader, he was servicable at best last year. He may string a few games together just to keep his job but that isn't going get us any anywhere sniffing the Super Bowl. Cassel is a joke QB. Couldn't beat out Matty Lionfart at USC, only got his chance when Brady got his bones crushed by You Know who. We wouldn't have gotten him if it wearnt for Brady getting hurt, he wouldn't have even be in conversation for him at QB.

Ace Gunner
09-25-2011, 08:28 AM
Cassel to the pro bowl was a joke!

All he had to do was hand the ball off to JC. The only way we moved the ball down the field was JC. Yea his TD to int was outstanding but he never had yards in the air, he never took a game in his hands for us too win. He never systematically delivered the ball down the field in rythm that defenses couldn't just stop.

We won our games last year on the feet of Jamaal Charles and a defense that played with heart, up untill the playoffs.

Cassel doesn't have the moxy to be a leader, he was servicable at best last year. He may string a few games together just to keep his job but that isn't going get us any anywhere sniffing the Super Bowl. Cassel is a joke QB. Couldn't beat out Matty Lionfart at USC, only got his chance when Brady got his bones crushed by You Know who. We wouldn't have gotten him if it wearnt for Brady getting hurt, he wouldn't have even be in conversation for him at QB.

ya. looking at this video clip below about 20 seconds in, Cassel is pacing the sideline during the game telling players "we gotta do better" in weakest way. No player seems to like his "leadership".

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-city-chiefs

Earthbound
09-25-2011, 08:38 AM
No professional athlete, coach or owner is going to come out and say "we are trying to lose this game" even if they are. There is way too much gambling going on these games and there is no way they want to be accused of fixing anything.

KC Tattoo
09-25-2011, 08:44 AM
Haley should go back to playing golf.

FantasyFanGear
09-25-2011, 08:53 AM
It is time to clear house again. Let's hire Charlie Weis to be our head coach.....lol

Mr. Arrowhead
09-25-2011, 09:13 AM
ROFL I find it funny when Knowshit goes all pro chiefs, because he doesnt want us to get Luck

Dave Lane
09-25-2011, 10:11 AM
No it isn't.

SNL has been unwatchable since the days of Chevy Chase, Dan Akroyd and John Belushi.

Amen brother amen.

Okie_Apparition
09-25-2011, 10:46 AM
This is why you draft team captains. AND this makes trading for Cassel and even bigger WTF? He couldn't of been a team capatin from the bench

Messier
09-25-2011, 11:02 AM
I'm telling you, man. Cassel is going to go on hot streak for a while sometime this season. He didn't make the Pro Bowl last year for no reason.

I hear Elvis Dumervil is hurt again. Too bad, it just sounds like he's too injury prone to have any impact in the NFL. He would have been pretty good.