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09-26-2011, 05:16 AM
Chiefs lose 20-17 to Chargers but gain a symbol (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/25/3167008/chiefs-lose-20-17-to-chargers.html)
By KENT BABB
The Kansas City Star

SAN DIEGO | He stood in an unlit corner, easy to miss, dressing after a game that again went sideways for the Chiefs. Dexter McCluster pulled on a shirt, grabbed his travel bag and whipped back his dreadlocks.

“There’s going to be a lot of people saying we can’t do it,” he said. “People saying we can’t win a game. But you know what? We’ve all been told that. Not just me.”

On Sunday, the Chiefs lost another one, this time 20-17 to the San Diego Chargers. But in the loss, Kansas City might finally have discovered an identity that it lacked in blowout losses the previous two weeks. This team turned to McCluster at Qualcomm Stadium to be its primary running back, a week after Jamaal Charles’ season-ending knee injury and a short while after veteran Thomas Jones was ineffective in the first half Sunday. More than that, the Chiefs seem to have turned to McCluster as a symbol there might be more to this team — and its players and chances — than appearances.

Not long after the final whistle, players dressed in a locker room not shrouded in confusion, frustration or shame. After losses to Buffalo and Detroit, and safety Eric Berry and Charles sidelined because of ACL tears, the outlook appeared bleak. But for the first time this season, players instead discussed hope and how the Chiefs might finally have figured out what it is, rather than dwelling on what it isn’t.

“The record shows 0-3 right now,” fullback Le’Ron McClain said. “But I know today, man, you saw a team out there. Everybody’s got each other’s back now.”

Several players said it’s because, odd as it was during a loss, the Chiefs came to an understanding Sunday that a strong will can defy appearances. McClain was told for years that he wouldn’t be a reliable pass-catcher in the NFL. Defensive end Glenn Dorsey was told in high school that he was too short to play in college. Another end, Tyson Jackson, was told that kids from his small Louisiana town are long shots to attend and graduate from college.

“I heard a lot of, ‘You can’t,’ ” Jackson said. “Just gives you something to thrive on, some type of motivation.”

In the old days, McCluster heard that often. He was 7 the first time he can remember it, and even his mother thought he was too small for full-contact football. He begged her, and when she relented, young Dexter ran into another roadblock: He wasn’t old enough, either. He said Sunday that his family “pulled some strings,” and before long, the 70-pounder was running around on the fields of southern Florida, zipping here and there, running away from defenders and limitations.

“It was like, ‘You know what?,’ ” he said Sunday. “ ‘I can do it. I don’t care if he’s bigger than me. I don’t care if he’s faster than me. I’m going to show him that there’s something different about me.’ ”

McCluster became a star at Mississippi, small still — he’s generously listed now at 5-feet-8 and 170 pounds — and Jackson admitted Sunday that he and the LSU defense learned the hard way that the versatile McCluster isn’t quite what he appears.

Drafted in the second round last year, McCluster began this season as a forgotten member of the Chiefs’ offense. He was far behind Charles and Jones at running back, hidden behind Dwayne Bowe, rookie Jonathan Baldwin and free-agent acquisition Steve Breaston at receiver.

Then Charles hit the turf Sept. 18 at Ford Field, and the Chiefs entered a state of panic. The season was finished. The Chiefs were devoid of playmakers. The offense was doomed. McCluster, of course, hadn’t helped his case to be taken seriously as a fill-in: His two fumbles overshadowed the 106 total yards and big-play ability he’d shown against the Bills and Lions.

On Sunday in San Diego, McCluster and the Chiefs faced a brutal test. The Chargers are one of the NFL’s better teams, and Kansas City was outscored 89-10 in its first two contests. McCluster didn’t have a carry in the first half, when the Chiefs had zero first downs and faced another double-digit deficit.

The Chiefs shifted directions after halftime, looking toward McCluster for a boost. He finished with nine carries for 45 yards, including a 16-yarder, and five catches. He kept getting hit, sometimes spinning in midair, and each time, he kept getting back up. More important, he kept hanging onto the football, and in part it was McCluster’s presence that gave the Chiefs a chance in a game they had no business keeping close.

“It’s never pleasant to have a lot of people tell you you’re no good,” coach Todd Haley said. “But like I said to the guys: ‘You go through our team, our coaching staff, we’ve got a lot of guys — a lot — that have been told no, you can’t do this, most of your lives. … And these guys, our team, they haven’t accepted no as an answer. I don’t think that’s going to start now.”

In the locker room Sunday, players brushed aside questions about kicker Ryan Succop’s missed 38-yard field goal. They avoided recounting Matt Cassel’s game-sealing interception. Instead, they pointed to the little man in the corner, figuring that’s who the Chiefs could be like if they set their minds to it the way he has always done.

Before McCluster left the locker room and headed toward the team’s bus, he looked around a locker room full of imperfect players, in an imperfect situation. No, Sunday didn’t go as well as it could. But if the Chiefs lost another game, they at least realized what they are — and what they could be.

Asked about low expectations, McCluster stood there and smiled.

“They’re going to doubt me all the time,” he said. “But you know what? They will not be able to ignore me.”

And the team?

“They’re probably going to do that, too,” he said. “But we don’t doubt ourselves.”

VIKINGS AT CHIEFS
•WHEN/WHERE: Noon Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium

•TV/RADIO: Channel 4; KCFX (101.1 FM)

ThatRaceCardGuy
09-26-2011, 06:08 AM
SUCK FOR LUCK...

Hoover
09-26-2011, 06:21 AM
So this means the Vikings will jump out to a big lead at half and we will roar back and lose by only 3 again. Got it.

WhiteWhale
09-26-2011, 06:39 AM
I can think of a pretty damn funny parody to this article....

TEX
09-26-2011, 07:00 AM
Oh whatever, "moral victories" are for LOSERS. Far too many seasons of suckage have gone on for all that. Too many people running this show and the last one have done things wrong. This team should be farther along than it is now. You don't build a team through two GM's and 3 head coaches only to make the playoffs 3 times a decade and then collapse each year afterwards...

ClevelandBronco
09-26-2011, 07:04 AM
I can think of a pretty damn funny parody to this article....

Yeah, it would have been hilarious if you had posted it.

Count Zarth
09-26-2011, 07:08 AM
drugs are bad, guys

Barret
09-26-2011, 07:11 AM
I can think of a Symbol, It is Matt Cassel flipping all the Chiefs fans the Bird while holding $60 Million dollars and having his hat fall off.

Wait on edit....the hat doesn't have any Chiefs icons on it, but has "Pro Bowl Quarter Back (alternate) 2010" on it

Hydrae
09-26-2011, 07:20 AM
I hate to say it to all you rooting for Luck but I listened to the broadcast of a team that didn't give up yesterday. They still have some talent and fought to a near standstill against a good team on the road. If Baldwin is the player we all thought he was when we drafted him this team will cause some headaches for other teams down the road and, heaven forbid, win a few games in the process.

Given that, Cassell has got to go. Period.

Earthling
09-26-2011, 07:37 AM
I hate to say it to all you rooting for Luck but I listened to the broadcast of a team that didn't give up yesterday. They still have some talent and fought to a near standstill against a good team on the road. If Baldwin is the player we all thought he was when we drafted him this team will cause some headaches for other teams down the road and, heaven forbid, win a few games in the process.

Given that, Cassell has got to go. Period.

:clap::clap:

Bane
09-26-2011, 07:40 AM
Moral victory = Oh I'm a crybaby pussy like Mike Vick....WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

KCChiefsFan88
09-26-2011, 08:41 AM
I hope Arrowhead is EMPTY this weekend for the Minnesota game.

Clark really thinks that moral victories are going to appease the fan base? Good luck with that. This is like the Arab Spring and Suck for Luck is the rallying cry. We are DONE with mediocre, shitty football. The fans are rising up.

The bigger question is why would the dickless KC Star go with such a pathetic headline.

durtyrute
09-26-2011, 08:49 AM
Gain A Symbol?

http://jackyoulate.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/fuck_you.jpg

How's that for a symbol bitch!!

Rooster
09-26-2011, 08:50 AM
Here is the 2011 symbol.

Count Zarth
09-26-2011, 08:52 AM
We will overcome this... 5-3 at the end of the 2 quarter of the season... #CHIEFS

Twitter / Le'Ron McClain


delusional

Rooster
09-26-2011, 08:52 AM
We will overcome this... 5-3 at the end of the 2 quarter of the season... #CHIEFS

Twitter / Le'Ron McClain


delusional

He must have got hit pretty hard yesterday.

Chocolate Hog
09-26-2011, 08:52 AM
We will overcome this... 5-3 at the end of the 2 quarter of the season... #CHIEFS

Twitter / Le'Ron McClain


delusional

I took him to task already.

Pants
09-26-2011, 09:04 AM
McCluster is very talented. I'm happy he's on the team.

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 09:42 AM
Some of you are ****ing pathetic.

Ripping on the team because unlike you, they still have heart. God forbid a group of grown ass men won't lay down, cry and accept defeat.

If you don't like Cassel, fine. Obviously he's not the answer. But the rest of this team is worth rooting for.

Don't wanna root for them because you think Luck is the answer? Ok.

But calling them delusional because they're trying to keep their head up?

Lol. Don't wanna call yourself a Chiefs fan right now? Ok, don't.

Don't call yourself a man either because MEN don't quit.

SNR
09-26-2011, 09:46 AM
Some of you are ****ing pathetic.

Ripping on the team because unlike you, they still have heart. God forbid a group of grown ass men won't lay down, cry and accept defeat.

If you don't like Cassel, fine. Obviously he's not the answer. But the rest of this team is worth rooting for.

Don't wanna root for them because you think Luck is the answer? Ok.

But calling them delusional because they're trying to keep their head up?

Lol. Don't wanna call yourself a Chiefs fan right now? Ok, don't.

Don't call yourself a man either because MEN don't quit.Repost from another thread, but whatever.

This song is for you, Detoxing

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ry8CpIg2fvU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 09:46 AM
Repost from another thread, but whatever.

This song is for you, Detoxing

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ry8CpIg2fvU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

It's ok. You're a quitter.

TEX
09-26-2011, 09:48 AM
Some of you are ****ing pathetic.

Ripping on the team because unlike you, they still have heart. God forbid a group of grown ass men won't lay down, cry and accept defeat.

If you don't like Cassel, fine. Obviously he's not the answer. But the rest of this team is worth rooting for.

Don't wanna root for them because you think Luck is the answer? Ok.

But calling them delusional because they're trying to keep their head up?

Lol. Don't wanna call yourself a Chiefs fan right now? Ok, don't.

Don't call yourself a man either because MEN don't quit.

Most aren't quitting. However, the "moral victory" thing gets old after awhile...

Pants
09-26-2011, 09:51 AM
It's not quitting, it's investing. People want this team to be a contender, not a 4-12 loser.

If Andrew Luck was not there for the taking, nobody would be OK with this team losing.

tecumseh
09-26-2011, 09:53 AM
I'm glad some on the team still have heart, won't give up. I cheer for the good stuff , laugh at the bad. So Casshole provides me with alot of laughs.
Gotta feel bad for the guys on the team thqt want to win though. They probably wantr to kick Cass's a**

SNR
09-26-2011, 09:53 AM
It's ok. You're a quitter.Quitter. Yeah, sure.

When I buy my Andrew Luck Chiefs jersey, I'll know that it was my dedication to the cause that helped lead to this momentous occasion. I'll wear it with pride.

You'll probably try to do the same thing. And that's fine. ALL of Chiefs nation deserves a real franchise QB at least once every 40 years. But... I mean, let's face it. There are some fans who WORKED to get this jersey while the other fans couldn't bear to see their precious team go 2-14 instead of 6-10. They didn't have the courage to admit that 4 or 5 extra losses in one season out of the past 40 isn't worth it to claim the grand prize.

Well, if that's the case, then go ahead and keep "fighting on." Be a "man." Me, personally? I want to start winning some games.

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 09:53 AM
It's not quitting, it's investing. People want this team to be a contender, not a 4-12 loser.

If Andrew Luck was not there for the taking, nobody would be OK with this team losing.

Like someone said in another thread... Its not CP anymore.. ITs FrenchPlanet...


http://images.spoof-media.com/thespoof/politics/france2000.gif

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 09:54 AM
Quitter. Yeah, sure.

When I buy my Andrew Luck Chiefs jersey, I'll know that it was my dedication to the cause that helped lead to this momentous occasion. I'll wear it with pride.

You'll probably try to do the same thing. And that's fine. ALL of Chiefs nation deserves a real franchise QB at least once every 40 years. But... I mean, let's face it. There are some fans who WORKED to get this jersey while the other fans couldn't bear to see their precious team go 2-14 instead of 6-10. They didn't have the courage to admit that 4 or 5 extra losses in one season out of the past 40 isn't worth it to claim the grand prize.

Well, if that's the case, then go ahead and keep "fighting on." Be a "man." Me, personally? I want to start winning some games.

Just promise me this, cause I am sure youre a good guy and a family man... but if we dont draft Luck, please dont shoot yourself.

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 09:55 AM
Most aren't quitting. However, the "moral victory" thing gets old after awhile...

Most ARE quitting. A lot of people quit in the fucking preseason.

I know, I know "But, But Detoxing, we'll never win anything with a Franchise QB so we might as well tank the season, whaaaa..."

Ok. Fine. Don't wanna root for the team? I understand.

But calling out your team because they still have the heart to fight that you don't have?

I'd rather side myself with a bunch of men that don't give up rather than a bunch of quitting pussies.

One thing that you have as a man in life is that you don't quit. You NEVER quit.

I could only imagine where I'd be in life if I just laid down and quit. I sure as fuck wouldn't be here right now.

So I'll root for 53+ men who still have fight in them.

Pants
09-26-2011, 09:55 AM
Like someone said in another thread... Its not CP anymore.. ITs FrenchPlanet...


http://images.spoof-media.com/thespoof/politics/france2000.gif

:facepalm:

SNR
09-26-2011, 09:56 AM
Like someone said in another thread... Its not CP anymore.. ITs FrenchPlanet...


http://images.spoof-media.com/thespoof/politics/france2000.gifEnjoy all that honor you have left.

Know what it will get you? 6-10 and a first round offensive tackle.

Know what my dishonor will get me? A franchise QB.

Hydrae
09-26-2011, 09:57 AM
Some of you are ****ing pathetic.

Ripping on the team because unlike you, they still have heart. God forbid a group of grown ass men won't lay down, cry and accept defeat.

If you don't like Cassel, fine. Obviously he's not the answer. But the rest of this team is worth rooting for.

Don't wanna root for them because you think Luck is the answer? Ok.

But calling them delusional because they're trying to keep their head up?

Lol. Don't wanna call yourself a Chiefs fan right now? Ok, don't.

Don't call yourself a man either because MEN don't quit.

:clap:

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 09:57 AM
Quitter. Yeah, sure.

When I buy my Andrew Luck Chiefs jersey, I'll know that it was my dedication to the cause that helped lead to this momentous occasion. I'll wear it with pride.

You'll probably try to do the same thing. And that's fine. ALL of Chiefs nation deserves a real franchise QB at least once every 40 years. But... I mean, let's face it. There are some fans who WORKED to get this jersey while the other fans couldn't bear to see their precious team go 2-14 instead of 6-10. They didn't have the courage to admit that 4 or 5 extra losses in one season out of the past 40 isn't worth it to claim the grand prize.

Well, if that's the case, then go ahead and keep "fighting on." Be a "man." Me, personally? I want to start winning some games.

Like I've said over and over again.

IF they lose, fine. I can accept it. I sure as fuck am not upset over it because I too can see the "Luck" at the end of the tunnel.

But I am not going to sit here and laugh at a bunch of guys for saying that they aren't going to lay down.

Pants
09-26-2011, 09:58 AM
Ripping on the team because unlike you, they still have heart. God forbid a group of grown ass men won't lay down, cry and accept defeat.



:spock:

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 09:59 AM
Enjoy all that honor you have left.

Know what it will get you? 6-10 and a first round offensive tackle.

Know what my dishonor will get me? A franchise QB.

You because Luck is the ONLY QB in the draft, right?

6-10. if that ends up being the case, still gets me in the top 10 and a first round QB.

And if the Chiefs aren't the absolute worst team in the NFL and you don't get Luck? Then what?

SNR
09-26-2011, 10:00 AM
Just promise me this, cause I am sure youre a good guy and a family man... but if we dont draft Luck, please dont shoot yourself.Meh. If we don't draft Luck because a team like Seattle or Miami out-sucked us, then that's fair. I do hope we take a look at Foles or somebody else.

I do know this, though. If Cassel is our starting QB next year, I'm probably going to keep watching Chiefs games like a fucking idiot. But there's no reason whatsoever why I should. This team doesn't deserve my viewership if they trot out that scaredycat jittery piece of rotten poop again.

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 10:00 AM
:spock:

???

Pants
09-26-2011, 10:01 AM
???

Who's ripping on the team for having heart?

The Bad Guy
09-26-2011, 10:02 AM
I hate to say it to all you rooting for Luck but I listened to the broadcast of a team that didn't give up yesterday. They still have some talent and fought to a near standstill against a good team on the road. If Baldwin is the player we all thought he was when we drafted him this team will cause some headaches for other teams down the road and, heaven forbid, win a few games in the process.

Given that, Cassell has got to go. Period.

I don't think anyone expects them to give up.

Everyone expects them to suck, and the talent on the team will dictate that. They have a lousy QB, no real RB, WRs who the QB can't get the ball to, a suspect line and a depleted secondary. They also can't stop the run.

They can keep this "us against the world" mantra, but at the end of the day, the talent sucks, the coaching sucks and the schedule is brutal.

They aren't going to give up. They are just going to get their shit pushed in.

Suck for Luck.

jspchief
09-26-2011, 10:03 AM
In my heart of hearts, I know this team can rise up and put together an exciting 8-8 season.

Sincerely,
Carl Peterson

The Bad Guy
09-26-2011, 10:04 AM
We aren't saying quit for luck, we are saying suck.

And this team is a whole bunch of suck.

lcarus
09-26-2011, 10:04 AM
I think we've established this team is gonna fight like hell to 3 or 4 wins and Chiefs fans everywhere are gonna be pissed when they hear "With the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft...the Indianapolis Colts select...Andrew Luck!"

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 10:05 AM
I don't think anyone expects them to give up.

Everyone expects them to suck, and the talent on the team will dictate that. They have a lousy QB, no real RB, WRs who the QB can't get the ball to, a suspect line and a depleted secondary. They also can't stop the run.

They can keep this "us against the world" mantra, but at the end of the day, the talent sucks, the coaching sucks and the schedule is brutal.

They aren't going to give up. They are just going to get their shit pushed in.

Suck for Luck.

The Problem is soley the QB IMO. You can win with this O-line. You can win with these backs. You can win with this D.

I disagree. I don't think the overall talent "Sucks".

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:05 AM
Enjoy all that honor you have left.

Know what it will get you? 6-10 and a first round offensive tackle.

Know what my dishonor will get me? A franchise QB.

First off, its entertainment... It has nothing to do with Honor for me...

Just so you know... My service in the USAF was honorable... My chosen from of entertainment isnt...

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:05 AM
Meh. If we don't draft Luck because a team like Seattle or Miami out-sucked us, then that's fair. I do hope we take a look at Foles or somebody else.

I do know this, though. If Cassel is our starting QB next year, I'm probably going to keep watching Chiefs games like a ****ing idiot. But there's no reason whatsoever why I should. This team doesn't deserve my viewership if they trot out that scaredycat jittery piece of rotten poop again.

And Agree 100%

Pants
09-26-2011, 10:06 AM
First off, its entertainment... It has nothing to do with Honor for me...

Just so you know... My service in the USAF was honorable... My chosen from of entertainment isnt...

What did you fly in the AF?

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:06 AM
:facepalm:

And its funny. so buck up little camper and put a smile on your face...

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 10:07 AM
I think we've established this team is gonna fight like hell to 3 or 4 wins and Chiefs fans everywhere are gonna be pissed when they hear "With the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft...the Indianapolis Colts select...Andrew Luck!"

Then you take a different QB.

Pestilence
09-26-2011, 10:07 AM
The Problem is soley the QB IMO. You can win with this O-line. You can win with these backs. You can win with this D.

I disagree. I don't think the overall talent "Sucks".

I hope Cassel starts all 16 games. It's been hilarious watching him shit the bed every week.

My brother sent me a text message saying that we were going to win yesterday when the Chiefs had the ball on the last drive. I texted him back with two words. "Matt Cassel".

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:08 AM
What did you fly in the AF?

Actually I didnt fly. Spent 2 1/2 years in aircraft systems and 2 1/2 in combat communications...

Spent my GI Bill on a BS degree in Aviation and pilot ratings.

Pants
09-26-2011, 10:08 AM
Actually I didnt fly. Spent 2 1/2 years in aircraft systems and 2 1/2 in combat communications...

Spent my GI Bill on a BS degree in Aviation and pilot ratings.

Ahhh, I figured that's where you learned to fly. Cool, man.

SNR
09-26-2011, 10:10 AM
First off, its entertainment... It has nothing to do with Honor for me...

Just so you know... My service in the USAF was honorable... My chosen from of entertainment isnt...
1. Thank you

2. Detoxing is the one talking about acting like real men and "I was raised to never quit." Like you said, it's entertainment. I just really want that entertainment to start getting good. REALLY good. I want to be entertained by my favorite team winning a Super Bowl. Just once. Just to know what it feels like.

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:10 AM
I hope Cassel starts all 16 games. It's been hilarious watching him shit the bed every week.

My brother sent me a text message saying that we were going to win yesterday when the Chiefs had the ball on the last drive. I texted him back with two words. "Matt Cassel".

When the chiefs were driving in the 3rd and 4th on that 18 play drive, I got 3 texts saying "Marty Ball".

My family knows my total displeasure with anything related to that Joke of a Coach..

Then when Cassel "Marty'd the game away" at the end... I texted back, "You get what you wish for in the end" Still havent heard back from them yet...


LOL

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:12 AM
Ahhh, I figured that's where you learned to fly. Cool, man.

I wish..

I am training my son now, so he will have a jump start on flying before he grads from college...

He wants to be an officer in the Coast Guard or USAF and fly...

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:12 AM
1. Thank you

2. Detoxing is the one talking about acting like real men and "I was raised to never quit." Like you said, it's entertainment. I just really want that entertainment to start getting good. REALLY good. I want to be entertained by my favorite team winning a Super Bowl. Just once. Just to know what it feels like.

Agree 100%....

loochy
09-26-2011, 10:16 AM
This is Cassel's symbol:

http://www.delaune.com/images/samples/tv-arc.jpg

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 10:19 AM
1. Thank you

2. Detoxing is the one talking about acting like real men and "I was raised to never quit." Like you said, it's entertainment. I just really want that entertainment to start getting good. REALLY good. I want to be entertained by my favorite team winning a Super Bowl. Just once. Just to know what it feels like.

I feel like I am part of this team, even if I am just a fan. I invest time and money into this. This is my team.

And If my team isn't going to quit on me, I am not going to quit on them. I hope to God they get their franchise QB, just like the rest of you. I'm over Cassel.

But if they can still have the heart to play these games, then as part of team KC, So should I. As a man, I can root for men who don't quit because I know what it feels like.

Molitoth
09-26-2011, 10:25 AM
http://asset-server.libsyn.com/item/901278/assets/Prince_Symbol_large.jpg

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:25 AM
I feel like I am part of this team, even if I am just a fan. I invest time and money into this. This is my team.

And If my team isn't going to quit on me, I am not going to quit on them. I hope to God they get their franchise QB, just like the rest of you. I'm over Cassel.

But if they can still have the heart to play these games, then as part of team KC, So should I. As a man, I can root for men who don't quit because I know what it feels like.

I draw the line around this here... I dont invest $$$ into them... $$$ is to hard to come by and I have many more investments that are more important to my family and I's future.

Sure this is my team, but there is a disconnect that is implemented for me as a fan. Do I cheer and get upset? Yes I do, but not at the expense of my family. Way too many people have an emotianal connection to something they have zero ability to control or alter...

I have learned as I have gotten older. Its just entertainment. This franchise does nothing for me personally nor does it contribuite to the bottom line on my families income. Therefore you have to keep that seperated between reality and entertainment.

The Bad Guy
09-26-2011, 10:30 AM
The Problem is soley the QB IMO. You can win with this O-line. You can win with these backs. You can win with this D.

I disagree. I don't think the overall talent "Sucks".

We don't have a running back worth shit either.

I agree that the main problem is the QB.

However, you can't lose the amount of talent we have, and expect to be competitive. They've literally lost 4 of their top players. If Hali, Bowe and DJ went down, I'd be fairly confident saying they would go 0-16.

Trevo_410
09-26-2011, 10:34 AM
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

The Bad Guy
09-26-2011, 10:35 AM
I feel like I am part of this team, even if I am just a fan. I invest time and money into this. This is my team.

And If my team isn't going to quit on me, I am not going to quit on them. I hope to God they get their franchise QB, just like the rest of you. I'm over Cassel.

But if they can still have the heart to play these games, then as part of team KC, So should I. As a man, I can root for men who don't quit because I know what it feels like.

Yeah, this is way over the top for me. I love football. Love the Chiefs. This "as a man" nonsense is way, way overblown.

It's entertainment as numerous posters said. When football starts turning into real life and I attach myself in a way where I act like the guy in the "it's real to me damnit" wrestling clip, then that's when I find something else to occupy my time.

Again, there are few things I'm passionate more about than this team, but there's nothing wrong with people willing to sacrifice games this year for the better of this team next year and moving forward. It has nothing to do with being a man or any of that other nonsense.

lcarus
09-26-2011, 10:36 AM
Listening to Haley's press conference, you'd think we won. I understand we didn't lose by 40 this time, but we still lost to a Chargers team that was walking in their sleep out there most of the time. Which you can't deny. They do it every season.

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 10:36 AM
However, you can't lose the amount of talent we have, and expect to be competitive. They've literally lost 4 of their top players. If Hali, Bowe and DJ went down, I'd be fairly confident saying they would go 0-16.

I agree. I was telling my wife that yesterday. Hali, Bowe, DJ and Flowers. Lose any of those guys and Andrew Luck is ours.

Ughhh.....Imagine Cassel w/o Bowe?

The Bad Guy
09-26-2011, 10:37 AM
We don't have a running back worth shit either.

I agree that the main problem is the QB.

However, you can't lose the amount of talent we have, and expect to be competitive. They've literally lost 4 of their top players. If Hali, Bowe and DJ went down, I'd be fairly confident saying they would go 0-16.

This post sounds like im making excuses for Cassel. Cassel is the main problem with this team regardless if these 3 acls and injured ankle were back in the lineup.

If the Chiefs make no changes next year except for getting Andrew Luck and removing Matt Cassel, then it's the most successful offeseason ever.

loochy
09-26-2011, 10:37 AM
Yeah, this is way over the top for me. I love football. Love the Chiefs. This "as a man" nonsense is way, way overblown.

It's entertainment as numerous posters said. When football starts turning into real life and I attach myself in a way where I act like the guy in the "it's real to me damnit" wrestling clip, then that's when I find something else to occupy my time.

Again, there are few things I'm passionate more about than this team, but there's nothing wrong with people willing to sacrifice games this year for the better of this team next year and moving forward. It has nothing to do with being a man or any of that other nonsense.

This whole type of attitude reminds me of a smart, intelligent running back (like Barry Sanders) that will dance and go backwards for a chance to break a big play VS a retarded big running back that runs into the pile every time.

The Bad Guy
09-26-2011, 10:38 AM
I agree. I was telling my wife that yesterday. Hali, Bowe, DJ and Flowers. Lose any of those guys and Andrew Luck is ours.

Ughhh.....Imagine Cassel w/o Bowe?

I think Luck is ours regardless if those guys manage to stay healthy all year.

The schedule is a nightmare. Pure nightmare and that 5 game stretch against Pittsburgh, NE, Chicago, NY Jets and Packers are going to bury this team.

This team just isn't any good. Hali is a stud, Bowe is very good, DJ flashes, Breaston made some nice plays, but they can't make up for the massive voids injury and depth this team has.

The Bad Guy
09-26-2011, 10:40 AM
This whole type of attitude reminds me of a smart, intelligent running back (like Barry Sanders) that will dance and go backwards for a chance to break a big play VS a retarded big running back that runs into the pile every time.

Lot of truth in the comparsion.

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:41 AM
This whole type of attitude reminds me of a smart, intelligent running back (like Barry Sanders) that will dance and go backwards for a chance to break a big play VS a retarded big running back that runs into the pile every time.

Which put reality into check when he retired at pretty much the top of his game...

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 10:42 AM
Yeah, this is way over the top for me. I love football. Love the Chiefs. This "as a man" nonsense is way, way overblown.

It's entertainment as numerous posters said. When football starts turning into real life and I attach myself in a way where I act like the guy in the "it's real to me damnit" wrestling clip, then that's when I find something else to occupy my time.

Again, there are few things I'm passionate more about than this team, but there's nothing wrong with people willing to sacrifice games this year for the better of this team next year and moving forward. It has nothing to do with being a man or any of that other nonsense.

How is it overblown? I like rooting for people who aren't quitters. That is part of the entertainment for me.

If a team doesn't quit and has a winning attitude, I can get behind that because it's something I highly value. I can cheer for someone like that.

I can't bring myself to cheer against someone who won't give up.

I understand that they won't win shit with Cassel at the the helm. I've been wanting a QB since the marty era. And I hope they find that guy in the next draft, whether it be Luck or someone else.

But in the mean time, Ima cheer for them.

loochy
09-26-2011, 10:42 AM
Which put reality into check when he retired at pretty much the top of his game...

Meh...he didn't need no stinkin football!

Okie_Apparition
09-26-2011, 11:02 AM
How you cheer doesn't matter to the score board. But I bet I can nail the wife of a lilly livered Suck 4 Luck supporter. She & the kids are embarrassed

mikey23545
09-26-2011, 11:14 AM
How is it overblown? I like rooting for people who aren't quitters. That is part of the entertainment for me.

If a team doesn't quit and has a winning attitude, I can get behind that because it's something I highly value. I can cheer for someone like that.

I can't bring myself to cheer against someone who won't give up.

I understand that they won't win shit with Cassel at the the helm. I've been wanting a QB since the marty era. And I hope they find that guy in the next draft, whether it be Luck or someone else.

But in the mean time, Ima cheer for them.

Me and you both, Detoxing.