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Direckshun
09-26-2011, 10:45 AM
First off, the Chiefs are still a fucking bad team, thanks to injury, Matt Cassel, and piss poor coaching/play calling.

Those blowouts we had to start the season were perfect indications of it.

A close game with San Diego was predictable if you follow spot betting for professional football:

1. The Chargers just lost their Super Bowl of September against the Patriots.
2. The law of averages favors the Chiefs, two times over.
3. The emotional advantage is totally on KCís side.
4. Todd Haleyís Chiefs compete after tough road losses.
5. Teams that arenít total disaster cases like the Raiders tend to tense up and play up and beyond their best when they lose their franchise player(s).
6. The Chiefs arenít as bad as everybody (including themselves) are making them out to be.

These are all factors that say: this game was going to be close, regardless of the chasm in talent between the two teams.

We've also got two shitty opponents up next in the Vikes and the Colts. The Chiefs will look composed and together. In reality, however, these two games (and the Chiefs should win at least one of them) are shitty teams against shitty teams, and shouldn't convince anybody on CP that this team is anything but a Bottom 5 squad.

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:47 AM
You sure you wouldnt rather give up a Second for Matt Flynn, than draft a 1st rd QB?

Brock
09-26-2011, 10:47 AM
Don't worry, Rivers just had a bad game.

DJ's left nut
09-26-2011, 10:47 AM
If Kerry Collins can't play, I'm not sure how we can outsuck the Colts.

Curtis Painter is terrible. I mean damn, how did an NFL team think that having this guy on their roster was a good idea?

Our only hope is Robert Mathis. He could just torment Richardson to the point that Cassel actually starts taking the snap from the fetal position.

Direckshun
09-26-2011, 10:48 AM
You sure you wouldnt rather give up a Second for Matt Flynn, than draft a 1st rd QB?

I wouldn't. But anybody claiming Pioli wouldn't has their head in the sand.

blaise
09-26-2011, 10:49 AM
I think the Rams have an outside chance to get the pick.

Mr. Arrowhead
09-26-2011, 10:49 AM
If Kerry Collins can't play, I'm not sure how we can outsuck the Colts.

Curtis Painter is terrible. I mean damn, how did an NFL team think that having this guy on their roster was a good idea?

Our only hope is Robert Mathis. He could just torment Richardson to the point that Cassel actually starts taking the snap from the fetal position.

did you not see that last drive by the colts, Matt Cassel dreams of drives like that in his sleep, but it just isnt a reality with him.

Direckshun
09-26-2011, 10:49 AM
If Kerry Collins can't play, I'm not sure how we can outsuck the Colts.

Curtis Painter is terrible. I mean damn, how did an NFL team think that having this guy on their roster was a good idea?

Our only hope is Robert Mathis. He could just torment Richardson to the point that Cassel actually starts taking the snap from the fetal position.

I actually think the team with the best chance of beating us to Luck are the Jaguars.

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:50 AM
I wouldn't. But anybody claiming Pioli wouldn't has their head in the sand.

It will be interesting for sure. But one things for sure... We dont have a clue to what Pioli and co is going to do thats for sure..

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:51 AM
I actually think the team with the best chance of beating us to Luck are the Jaguars.

After picking up that dude from MU?

No way do you spend back to back years on a 1st round QB...

KCChiefsFan88
09-26-2011, 10:55 AM
I wouldn't. But anybody claiming Pioli wouldn't has their head in the sand.

No more trading for back-up QB's with alleged potential.

Steve Pelluer, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, Matt Cassel... ENOUGH

Time to draft a franchise QB.

Dicky McElephant
09-26-2011, 10:56 AM
I actually think the team with the best chance of beating us to Luck are the Jaguars.

Gabbert showed enough in yesterdays game to keep him in Jacksonville.

The only way that the Jags draft Luck......is if Del Rio is fired and the new coach wants nothing to do with Gabbert.

Bane
09-26-2011, 10:57 AM
No more trading for back-up QB's with alleged potential.

Steve Pelluer, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, Matt Cassel... ENOUGH

Time to draft a franchise QB.

I agree with this statement and have for 20 years or so.

Dicky McElephant
09-26-2011, 10:57 AM
You sure you wouldnt rather give up a Second for Matt Flynn, than draft a 1st rd QB?

Matt Flynn looked good with the Packers offense.

Sound familar?

Dicky McElephant
09-26-2011, 10:58 AM
If Kerry Collins can't play, I'm not sure how we can outsuck the Colts.

Curtis Painter is terrible. I mean damn, how did an NFL team think that having this guy on their roster was a good idea?

Our only hope is Robert Mathis. He could just torment Richardson to the point that Cassel actually starts taking the snap from the fetal position.

That game is going to be so awesome to watch.

I predict 0-0 at halftime. Then with 1:00 left in the game....Cassel will be driving down the field. He'll attempt a pass to McCluster on a screen.....and their DB will pick it off and return it for a TD. LUCK FTW!!!!

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 10:59 AM
Matt Flynn looked good with the Packers offense.

Sound familar?


Yeah it does...

But we are no where close to the packers level of talent...

I would rather draft a guy and go from there... Start him immediately and see what happens.

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2011, 11:00 AM
You sure you wouldnt rather give up a Second for Matt Flynn, than draft a 1st rd QB?

Matt Flynn sucked in college. Why would I want him in the NFL?

lcarus
09-26-2011, 11:07 AM
I think we all just need to chill and realize that its too early to really know who will be the worst team in the league. A lot can get better or worse for every team in the coming weeks. Let's just hope that if we're still in the hunt in November, that we make the most out of it.

Direckshun
09-26-2011, 11:09 AM
After picking up that dude from MU?

No way do you spend back to back years on a 1st round QB...

No, but you can sell the pick for 3 1st rounders.

And then the team you sell it to picks up Luck.

This isn't rocket science.

Gabbert showed enough in yesterdays game to keep him in Jacksonville.

The only way that the Jags draft Luck......is if Del Rio is fired and the new coach wants nothing to do with Gabbert.

The Jags face an extremely tough schedule.

Direckshun
09-26-2011, 11:11 AM
Matt Flynn looked good with the Packers offense.

Sound familar?

Exactly.

He's ALSO a 7th round pick.

He's ALSO been backing up a future HOFer with an elite offense.

He's ALSO looked good in the spot work with that offense.

He's ALSO a high intangibles guy and physically limited.

He's ALSO a free agent this offseason who the Packers will franchise and auction him off to the highest bidder.

The two are carbon copies.

KCUnited
09-26-2011, 11:11 AM
KC has to have the 1st pick to get Luck. Teams with first round QBs with the 1st pick will certainly trade out of it. Other teams will be more willing to trade up than KC.

DJ's left nut
09-26-2011, 11:13 AM
I actually think the team with the best chance of beating us to Luck are the Jaguars.

MJD can win them a game here and there on his own. They already have one and 3 wins probably takes you out of this thing (4 definitely would).

Same with the Vikings; AP can win them a couple of games. Too bad they blew that Detroit game.

The Seahawks win was huge. The Colts and Broncos remain our fiercest opponents, IMO.

DJ's left nut
09-26-2011, 11:15 AM
After picking up that dude from MU?

No way do you spend back to back years on a 1st round QB...

Perhaps.

But do you think Pioli would ever ever give up more than Elway to move up and grab Luck?

If the Chiefs don't get #1 overall, we'd better hope a team that needs a quarterback does because you know that Elway will absolutely sell the farm for him.

And yeah, Pioli will go get Matt Flynn and the same assholes that were on his nuts for the Cassel trade (you know who you are) will be right back on them about the great price he got for Flynn instead of having to give up a first rounder for a quarterback.

People are goddamn idiots.

SNR
09-26-2011, 11:20 AM
I wouldn't. But anybody claiming Pioli wouldn't has their head in the sand.Pioli hates the Packers. Wants nothing to do with them. That entire system/coaching tree is Holmgren/Walsh and has absolutely nothing to do with Bill Parcells.

If there's one thing I've learned about Pioli over the years, it's that he is the ULTIMATE "good ol' boy network" GM/executive. Doesn't trust any coach who doesn't know all 12 verses of the Bill Parcells anthem as well as the Secret Bill Parcells Handshake. And if he doesn't trust that coach, he sure as hell doesn't trust that coach's players, much less that coach's QBs

Direckshun
09-26-2011, 11:22 AM
KC has to have the 1st pick to get Luck. Teams with first round QBs with the 1st pick will certainly trade out of it. Other teams will be more willing to trade up than KC.

Every team will be more willing to trade up than KC.

Direckshun
09-26-2011, 11:22 AM
Pioli hates the Packers. Wants nothing to do with them. That entire system/coaching tree is Holmgren/Walsh and has absolutely nothing to do with Bill Parcells.

If there's one thing I've learned about Pioli over the years, it's that he is the ULTIMATE "good ol' boy network" GM/executive. Doesn't trust any coach who doesn't know all 12 verses of the Bill Parcells anthem as well as the Secret Bill Parcells Handshake. And if he doesn't trust that coach, he sure as hell doesn't trust that coach's players, much less that coach's QBs

Fair point.

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2011, 11:29 AM
MJD can win them a game here and there on his own. They already have one and 3 wins probably takes you out of this thing (4 definitely would).

Same with the Vikings; AP can win them a couple of games. Too bad they blew that Detroit game.

The Seahawks win was huge. The Colts and Broncos remain our fiercest opponents, IMO.

Don't forget Miami.

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 11:30 AM
If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 11:31 AM
If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?

Very good point.

this should have its own thread for damn sure...

Mr_Tomahawk
09-26-2011, 11:32 AM
If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?

Okay.


Nick Foles.

Brock
09-26-2011, 11:32 AM
If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?

Might as well. We're not going to get him, and we all know it.

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 11:32 AM
MJD can win them a game here and there on his own. They already have one and 3 wins probably takes you out of this thing (4 definitely would).

Same with the Vikings; AP can win them a couple of games. Too bad they blew that Detroit game.

The Seahawks win was huge. The Colts and Broncos remain our fiercest opponents, IMO.

Seahawks yeah, but Broncos?

They'll beat us at least once... I think they'll also win enough games.

Seattle and Indy worry me the most.

keg in kc
09-26-2011, 11:33 AM
Gabbert showed enough in yesterdays game to keep him in Jacksonville.

The only way that the Jags draft Luck......is if Del Rio is fired and the new coach wants nothing to do with Gabbert.They don't have to draft Luck themselves to screw it up for us.

Dicky McElephant
09-26-2011, 11:35 AM
They don't have to draft Luck themselves to screw it up for us.

I don't see the Jags getting the #1 pick.

KCUnited
09-26-2011, 11:36 AM
If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?

I will never QUIT on our quest for Luck.

suds79
09-26-2011, 11:36 AM
Might as well. We're not going to get him, and we all know it.

Kind of a defeatist attitude don't you think? No way. Eye on the prize.

We're bad enough to where we have just as good of a shot at #1 as anybody.

Brock
09-26-2011, 11:36 AM
Kind of a defeatist attitude don't you think? No way. Eye on the prize.

We're bad enough to where we have just as good of a shot at #1 as anybody.

Not been a Chiefs fan long, I see.

DJ's left nut
09-26-2011, 11:37 AM
Don't forget Miami.

Miami is a much better team than they're getting credit for, IMO.

That's a 6 win ballclub. They have some legit talent at the skill positions and can have bursts where they're able to score against anyone. Henne is hated by his fans, but he's really not that bad. He's below average because hes inconsistent, but when he's feeling locked in and Marshall's into the game, those guys are capable of blowing you out of the water.

I'm not worried about Miami.

suds79
09-26-2011, 11:37 AM
Not been a Chiefs fan long, I see.

tushay ;)

I'm keeping hope alive.

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 11:40 AM
Miami is a much better team than they're getting credit for, IMO.

That's a 6 win ballclub. They have some legit talent at the skill positions and can have bursts where they're able to score against anyone. Henne is hated by his fans, but he's really not that bad. He's below average because hes inconsistent, but when he's feeling locked in and Marshall's into the game, those guys are capable of blowing you out of the water.

I'm not worried about Miami.

almost like a mirror image of the Chiefs....

Dr. Facebook Fever
09-26-2011, 11:42 AM
Kind of a defeatist attitude don't you think? No way.

Are you new to defeatistattitudeplanet.com?

:D

MahiMike
09-26-2011, 11:43 AM
Peyton is practicing for his next gig - Offensive coordinator. Todd, are you listening?

lcarus
09-26-2011, 11:45 AM
Peyton is practicing for his next gig - Offensive coordinator. Todd, are you listening?

I'd take Peyton as a offensive coach any day of the week. The guy flat out understands the game. There's no denying.

Pawnmower
09-26-2011, 11:46 AM
After we win the next two games, it will still be on....

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 11:46 AM
I will never QUIT on our quest for Luck.

Reality.

Reality is that I'll pull for the Chiefs but they'll still lose.

Reality is that you'll hope for Luck but the Chiefs will win just enough....

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2011, 11:48 AM
Miami is a much better team than they're getting credit for, IMO.

That's a 6 win ballclub. They have some legit talent at the skill positions and can have bursts where they're able to score against anyone. Henne is hated by his fans, but he's really not that bad. He's below average because hes inconsistent, but when he's feeling locked in and Marshall's into the game, those guys are capable of blowing you out of the water.

I'm not worried about Miami.

They lost yesterday to Cleveland and they're division foes are the Jets, Buffalo, and New England. Their easiest remaining games are against Denver and KC. Their other opponents outside of the division are San Diego, Oakland, NY Giants, Dallas, Washington, and Philly.

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2011, 11:49 AM
If we're going to be serious about drafting a QB then we need to start getting over Luck. Luck may or may not happen. If he does, great. Odds are not in our favor yet though.

Can we start having some discussion about the "Other" guys?

Barkley looked like crap against ASU.

Trevo_410
09-26-2011, 11:51 AM
Jones didn't look like a top 10 Overall pick either...

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 11:51 AM
Barkley looked like crap against ASU.

How'd Foles look though?

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2011, 11:52 AM
How'd Foles look though?

I didn't watch the Arizona game.

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2011, 11:55 AM
How'd Foles look though?

I didn't watch the Arizona game.

His stat line was ok, would like to see a higher completion %:

34/57 398yds, 3TDs, 0int

Frankie
09-26-2011, 11:59 AM
First off, the Chiefs are still a ****ing bad team, thanks to injury, Matt Cassel, and piss poor coaching/play calling.I'm not ready to blame coaching for this yet. Last year it seemed the team played well and to the last minute for Haley. Also look at Bowe. Under Herm I bet he would have been a diva WR with not enough production to back it up. I credit Haley for Bowe playing like he is and with the attitude that he is.

I guess I do not want Haley fired ESPECIALLY if we get a stud QB like Luck under his teaching.

We've also got two shitty opponents up next in the Vikes and the Colts. The Chiefs will look composed and together. In reality, however, these two games (and the Chiefs should win at least one of them) are shitty teams against shitty teams, and shouldn't convince anybody on CP that this team is anything but a Bottom 5 squad.
We better not win against either of these "shitty" teams. That's like giving them the ticket to Luck. In that scenario they will have a head-to-head tie breaker for their draft position. Yikes!

Dicky McElephant
09-26-2011, 12:09 PM
His stat line was ok, would like to see a higher completion %:

34/57 398yds, 3TDs, 0int

That completion percentage was his WRs fault. They were dropping the easiest passes. Foles is doing a lot with not much talent around him.

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2011, 12:11 PM
That completion percentage was his WRs fault. They were dropping the easiest passes. Foles is doing a lot with not much talent around him.

I didn't see the game, so I wouldn't know. His previous games all had completions %'s above 70 which is outstanding.

Detoxing
09-26-2011, 12:12 PM
That completion percentage was his WRs fault. They were dropping the easiest passes. Foles is doing a lot with not much talent around him.

IF we end up with #2 overall (or just not #1) I'd be thrilled to have Foles.

Fuck, at this point I'd be thrilled to have anyone...

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2011, 12:12 PM
I didn't see the game, so I wouldn't know. His previous games all had completions %'s above 70 which is outstanding.

He also has 10 TDs and 0 INTs on the year, which is remarkable.

Dicky McElephant
09-26-2011, 12:14 PM
I didn't see the game, so I wouldn't know. His previous games all had completions %'s above 70 which is outstanding.

I watched it. His WRs were playing like a rookie Bowe.

If you have time....you can watch the replay.

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/source/espn3/league/ncaaf/gameId/312670012/

Dicky McElephant
09-26-2011, 12:16 PM
Seriously though....if we don't have a shot at Luck.....I would be perfectly fine with grabbing Foles wherever we sit in the 1st round.

ChiefsCountry
09-26-2011, 12:28 PM
Barkley looked like crap against ASU.

Yet the week before he was damn good. We will see this week as him and Foles get to battle it out.

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 12:29 PM
Seriously though....if we don't have a shot at Luck.....I would be perfectly fine with grabbing Foles wherever we sit in the 1st round.

This.....

SNR
09-26-2011, 12:32 PM
My thing with Foles is how is he when he gets pressured? I'm sick of having QBs play for this team who can only do well when they have 10 seconds of protection

Trevo_410
09-26-2011, 12:35 PM
for barkley to suck against asu as much as he did with all the talent around him.... I'm Not Interested

He's got to small of a frame to to be mediocre in this league. Foles > Barkeley

Frankie
09-26-2011, 12:36 PM
You sure you wouldnt rather give up a Second for Matt Flynn, than draft a 1st rd QB?I wouldn't. At least not in a draft year that a once in a generation QB might be available to us. Flynn has looked OK, but look at the talent around him.

Gabbert showed enough in yesterdays game to keep him in Jacksonville.

The only way that the Jags draft Luck......is if Del Rio is fired and the new coach wants nothing to do with Gabbert.I bet the Jax would be glad to draft Luck and trade away Gabbert.

But do you think Pioli would ever ever give up more than Elway to move up and grab Luck?

If the Chiefs don't get #1 overall, we'd better hope a team that needs a quarterback does because you know that Elway will absolutely sell the farm for him.Elway's hard on for Luck is very difficult to not notice. I hate this more all the rest of the scenarios combined.

Miami is a much better team than they're getting credit for, IMO.

That's a 6 win ballclub. They have some legit talent at the skill positions and can have bursts where they're able to score against anyone. Henne is hated by his fans, but he's really not that bad. He's below average because hes inconsistent, but when he's feeling locked in and Marshall's into the game, those guys are capable of blowing you out of the water.

I'm not worried about Miami.I'm afraid I don't share your confidence. :(

tushay ;) You MUST have been a longtime Chiefs fan. You are already adding CP spellings to the lexicon. This one for the word 'touchť.' :)

Peyton is practicing for his next gig - Offensive coordinator. Todd, are you listening?If Todd survives, I think Zorn will be our OC next year.

I'd take Peyton as a offensive coach any day of the week. The guy flat out understands the game. There's no denying.What makes you guys think Peyton Manning will even wanna coach at all?! The money he can make from a chushy TV gig is far better than that of an assistant coach.

Seriously though....if we don't have a shot at Luck.....I would be perfectly fine with grabbing Foles wherever we sit in the 1st round.
That's my standing as well.

Trevo_410
09-26-2011, 12:37 PM
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Pasta Giant Meatball
09-26-2011, 12:41 PM
If Kerry Collins can't play, I'm not sure how we can outsuck the Colts.

Curtis Painter is terrible. I mean damn, how did an NFL team think that having this guy on their roster was a good idea?

Our only hope is Robert Mathis. He could just torment Richardson to the point that Cassel actually starts taking the snap from the fetal position.

LMAO I prefer to call him Curtis Spicoli

Dicky McElephant
09-26-2011, 12:41 PM
Foles is not as polished as Luck.....but I still think he's going to be a damn good QB in the NFL.

DJ's left nut
09-26-2011, 12:42 PM
Okay - I'm 4 minutes into the Foles tape and I have to ask if it gets better.

I see very little to be impressed by in that tape. Lots of dump offs and throws about 8 yards downfield. He made a nice little throw to the OSU 30 there towards the end, but that was back across his body to a wide open guy, not exactly a smart throw and not exactly a difficult one to execute. Oh, and then the drive stalled badly.

I'll need to see a lot more than that before I include him on a 'high 1st rounder' list.

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2011, 12:44 PM
Yet the week before he was damn good. We will see this week as him and Foles get to battle it out.

Against Syracuse. :whackit:

MTG#10
09-26-2011, 12:45 PM
No more trading for back-up QB's with alleged potential.

Steve Pelluer, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, Matt Cassel... ENOUGH

Time to draft a franchise QB.
Trent Green shouldn't be on this list, he was actually damn good for several years.

Chiefnj2
09-26-2011, 12:46 PM
Highlight clips of most QB prospects up in the draft planet forum.

Reerun_KC
09-26-2011, 12:48 PM
Okay - I'm 4 minutes into the Foles tape and I have to ask if it gets better.

I see very little to be impressed by in that tape. Lots of dump offs and throws about 8 yards downfield. He made a nice little throw to the OSU 30 there towards the end, but that was back across his body to a wide open guy, not exactly a smart throw and not exactly a difficult one to execute. Oh, and then the drive stalled badly.

I'll need to see a lot more than that before I include him on a 'high 1st rounder' list.

You cant base everything off this one game...

OSU is a solid ball club...

He looked much better against Standford earlier this year.

Frankie
09-26-2011, 12:49 PM
Okay - I'm 4 minutes into the Foles tape and I have to ask if it gets better.

I see very little to be impressed by in that tape. Lots of dump offs and throws about 8 yards downfield. He made a nice little throw to the OSU 30 there towards the end, but that was back across his body to a wide open guy, not exactly a smart throw and not exactly a difficult one to execute. Oh, and then the drive stalled badly.

I'll need to see a lot more than that before I include him on a 'high 1st rounder' list.

You beat me to this post. I admit I have not seen Foles in action much and I'm going strictly by stats and word of mouth at this point. Like you I had only enough time to watch the first few minute of this tape, but sadly this tape (at least) does not give me a lot of warmth in my heart about Foles. I see a lot of dink and donks reminiscent of Matt Cassel.

Frankie
09-26-2011, 12:54 PM
He looked much better against Standford earlier this year.

Ir the rerun of that game available anywhere to watch?

SNR
09-26-2011, 12:57 PM
Okay - I'm 4 minutes into the Foles tape and I have to ask if it gets better.

I see very little to be impressed by in that tape. Lots of dump offs and throws about 8 yards downfield. He made a nice little throw to the OSU 30 there towards the end, but that was back across his body to a wide open guy, not exactly a smart throw and not exactly a difficult one to execute. Oh, and then the drive stalled badly.

I'll need to see a lot more than that before I include him on a 'high 1st rounder' list.This. He looked spectacularly Casselesque.

He's got great size, and seems to evade pressure somewhat well? He's also got better wheels than Luck. But that footage of checkdown checkdown checkdown really repulsed me.

Jaric
09-26-2011, 01:28 PM
I actually think the team with the best chance of beating us to Luck are the Jaguars.

Who just drafted a QB in the first round this year.